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Welsh Inferno wrote...

The facebook poll is a landslide win for yes. Yippee! BW will still probably have trouble deciding to show her face or not. Unless that poll was ment to be the deciding factor.

The Talimancers have spoken. We want to see her face Bioware!

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Facebook sucks and I'm going to hate it even more some crappy poll on some crappy website frequented by legions of crappy people is the deciding factor here.

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Saphra Deden wrote...

Facebook sucks and I'm going to hate it even more some crappy poll on some crappy website frequented by legions of crappy people is the deciding factor here.

Cry some more!

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Saphra Deden wrote...

Facebook sucks and I'm going to hate it even more some crappy poll on some crappy website frequented by legions of crappy people is the deciding factor here.

i agree

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Saphra Deden wrote...

Facebook sucks and I'm going to hate it even more some crappy poll on some crappy website frequented by legions of crappy people is the deciding factor here.


1 - I have Facebook. So thank you for the "crappy people".
2- You're really becoming annoying.

*Sits down awaiting the unavoidable "Shut up! Why U have to be so sentiiiiiiisive???" reply*

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HATE the fact that whenever the subject of whether or not the Quarians should be revealed comes up all anyone talks about is Tali, Tali Tali. I like Tali but ME2 and the books added many other interesting Quarian characters. What about their reveals? what about any potential new Quarian characters?

No, no. Obviously all Quarians in the universe revolve around Tali's face. Posted Image No other race seems to have this problem, even the bloody Drell, and we've only met three of them.

Modifié par EJ107, 05 juillet 2011 - 10:55 .


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Alienmorph wrote...

Saphra Deden wrote...

Facebook sucks and I'm going to hate it even more some crappy poll on some crappy website frequented by legions of crappy people is the deciding factor here.


1 - I have Facebook. So thank you for the "crappy people".
2- You're really becoming annoying.

*Sits down awaiting the unavoidable "Shut up! Why U have to be so sentiiiiiiisive???" reply*

You ARE rather sensitive.

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everyone is entitled to their opinion, annoying or not.

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Quole wrote...
You ARE rather sensitive.


If you say so.

sitesunseen wrote...

everyone is entitled to their opinion, annoying or not.


Off course, but why Saphra's opinions have always to be exposed in the most p!ssful way possible?

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EJ107 wrote...

No, no. Obviously all Quarians in the universe revolve around Tali's face. ../../../images/forum/emoticons/angry.png No other race seems to have this problem, even the bloody Drell, and we've only met three of them.


You
see, this is similar to how I feel about it. I do want quarians to be
revealed. I think it is silly to have an entire species that is a
mystery. (We should see what volus look like too)

However I don't want Tali revealed. Show me any quarian but her.


@Alienmorph

Quole beat me to it. I'll get ya' next time.

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Meh, I guess that sometimes I get angry too easily, but it's mostly because of the hight population of moronic users of this SN that makes me nervous, not because I'm a people who easily feels insulted/offended.

Anyway, peace Saprha, go on.

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Saphra Deden wrote...

EJ107 wrote...

No, no. Obviously all Quarians in the universe revolve around Tali's face. ../../../images/forum/emoticons/angry.png No other race seems to have this problem, even the bloody Drell, and we've only met three of them.


You
see, this is similar to how I feel about it. I do want quarians to be
revealed. I think it is silly to have an entire species that is a
mystery. (We should see what volus look like too)

However I don't want Tali revealed. Show me any quarian but her.


@Alienmorph

Quole beat me to it. I'll get ya' next time.

I have to disagree. Showing the Quarians without revealing Tali's face would be a bad move (and I mean a really bad move) on Biowares part.

Modifié par M8DMAN, 05 juillet 2011 - 11:28 .


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M8DMAN wrote...

I have to disagree. Showing the Quarians without revealing Tali's face would be a bad move (and I mean a really bad move) on Biowares part.


It'd be fine.

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M8DMAN wrote...
I have to disagree. Showing the Quarians without revealing Tali's face would be a bad move (and I mean a really bad move) on Biowares part.

have to agree with this. it makes no sense to me.

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Runescapeguy9 wrote...

M8DMAN wrote...
I have to disagree. Showing the Quarians without revealing Tali's face would be a bad move (and I mean a really bad move) on Biowares part.

have to agree with this. it makes no sense to me.


Elaborate.

Pretty please.

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Saphra Deden wrote...
Elaborate.

Pretty please.

some people argue that it would make some of the people who want to see her face disappointed. okay. if you don't show it, would they not all be disappointed?
as for other arguments, I see no value in them either. I (so this doesn't go for everyone) don't have the same level of connection to any of the other quarians so I don't really give a crap what they look like. I want to see her face, none of the others.

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Runescapeguy9 wrote...

if you don't show it, would they not all be disappointed?


No. A lot of people would prefer it this way. Go read some of the other Tali's Face debates.

I want to see what the species looks like for curiosity's sake. Same reason I want to see female turians, drell, and batarians.

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Saphra Deden wrote...

Runescapeguy9 wrote...

if you don't show it, would they not all be disappointed?


No. A lot of people would prefer it this way. Go read some of the other Tali's Face debates.

I want to see what the species looks like for curiosity's sake. Same reason I want to see female turians, drell, and batarians.

of the people who want to see her face

reread. can get two birds with one stone.

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yeah seeing another character is not the same as the one you've become attached to, even if its the same species.

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Is the facebook poll about showing tali face on ME FB page I need to vote

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It's one thing to show a species, and another to show an individual. I mean An example would be showing Anderson and extrapolating that that's what default male Shepard looks like. That might be a stony example given how other species seem to make a point about human diversity but the logic still stands. The argument regarding "I want her to be my Tali, not what they think she is" doesn't make sense to me either. If that were the case then you may as well just create any generic character, people like Tali as a result of what work BW put into her, same as any other character. Mystery and intrigue are nice but do become tiresome eventually or worse labelled as lazy. I trust BW with their rendition of Tali. Personally I think they'll try to make her beautiful as it would fit to be honest, face it the quarians aren't exactly an unattractive species, it stands that they wouldn't want to discard this image. I also agree with the idea about using mostly human features but with slight modifications. The uncanny valley can be a cruel beast, even the slightest change can alter somebody's perception greatly. Keep the similarities sensible and all will be fine, already proven by their physique.

Being creative isn't about making some wacky alien that nobody has thought of before, that's way too easy. You have to create a full scenario, give reasons why an alien is the way it is. In the right conditions there's no reason an alien can't look similar to a human, things aren't as random as they appear. Mutations remain in the genes because they were largely successful (not always the case of course). A similar situation could give rise to similar solutions, though yes small details would likely vary greatly.

Again spelling as this was a phone post.

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More on Tali's Face
BioWare's Twitter account is asking if we want to see Tali's face. Go there to tweet your answer.
:)
Best of luck, guys and gals.

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The FB poll reached over 20,000 votes, 86% say yes.

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Well that settles it then. They're gonna show her face.

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Tasha vas Nar Rayya wrote...

Nodscouter wrote...

Creating aliens that are human-is doesn't mean they aren't creative. If you made a creature that looks nothing at all like a human, it would be almost impossible to pick up on emotions and body-language, which is rather central to our understanding of other people. Just look at the bloody Elcor, without their little mood-indications before what they say, you would have no idea if they were screaming at you or trying to seduce you!


In terms of appearance, I think that the more alien an alien race looks then the more creativity it shows. Of course, the quarian race have so much imagination in their lore and culture. Ad body language can still be expressed if a species looks alien, for example, the turians express this with their mandibles, and the geth use 'dem headflaps.'

Perhaps I should have specified by saying ''humanoid'' then.

Modifié par Nodscouter, 06 juillet 2011 - 01:33 .