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Saphra Deden wrote...

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I don't know if you've seen this yet, but there are apparently War Assets you can gain from "side with Xen over Tali". That should make you happy.


The question is, how do I get there? If I have to make peace with the geth then this is problematic. Though I suppose to maximize drama I'd have my Shepard romance Tali after all. At least then I don't have to kill off Garrus.

Here's what the file says: ID=159 Advanced AI Relays Type: Military SubType: Ground StartingStrength=45 ConditionalDescription="Support Xen against Tali"

Doesn't say how exactly you get it. I would think it would likely be for the anti-geth path though.

Modifié par Cthulhu42, 25 février 2012 - 08:38 .


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I like Xen. So what if she cut open her quarian bears when she was a kid. you have to start somewhere. But I can't betray Tali.

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I like Xen. So what if she cut open her quarian bears when she was a kid. you have to start somewhere. But I can't betray Tali.


Xen's destruction of her toys was an outlet of her creativity and intelligence. Very smart kids are often a bit destructive. Tali calling her out on it just shows how immature she is, as if that wasn't obvious enough.

Anyway, my hunch is that to side with Xen you have to first make peace with the quarians and geth, after which Xen eventually sabotages it.

Otherwise there is no basis for a conflict.

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Saphra Deden wrote...

sitesunseen wrote...

I like Xen. So what if she cut open her quarian bears when she was a kid. you have to start somewhere. But I can't betray Tali.


Xen's destruction of her toys was an outlet of her creativity and intelligence. Very smart kids are often a bit destructive. Tali calling her out on it just shows how immature she is, as if that wasn't obvious enough.

Anyway, my hunch is that to side with Xen you have to first make peace with the quarians and geth, after which Xen eventually sabotages it.

Otherwise there is no basis for a conflict.

Well I imagine there's three things to do with the Geth.

Exterminate
Ally
Control


Wherever the story leads as far as Quarians Vs Geth go, siding with Xen will most likely fall with controlling the geth. Not sure why you'd make peace with the Geth, just to have Xen sabotage it as a form of siding with her.

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Jake71887 wrote...

Wherever the story leads as far as Quarians Vs Geth go, siding with Xen will most likely fall with controlling the geth. Not sure why you'd make peace with the Geth, just to have Xen sabotage it as a form of siding with her.


Oh um... yeah, uh, just call it a 'hunch'.

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A wild stab at the decisions & implications if the acquisition of races in ME3 is similar to DA:O: 

If: Don't turn over Tali's father's research
--Having acquired it afterwards, Xen starts war with geth in ME3
----If: Rewrite derelict
--------Geths have stronger forces; Xen loses
------------Quarians weakened; doesn't help with Reapers
----------------Acquire Geth troops for final confrontation
----If: Kill derelict
--------Geths weakened; Xen wins
------------Geths weakened & pissed; doesn't help with Reapers
----------------Acquire Quarian troops for final confrontation


If: Turn over Tali's father's research 
--Xen doesn't acquire the data afterwards, and can't split the Quarians to start war in ME3
----If: Rewrite derelict
-------- ¯\\_(ツ)_/¯
------------Profit 
----If: Kill derelict
-------- ¯\\_(ツ)_/¯ 
------------Not-as-much-profit  

I think from the writers' logical perspective, it might make more sense for turning over Tali's research to be the choice to stop the Quarian & Geth war and save both Legion and Tali in ME3. But from a dev-player-relationship PoV, it's not as likely. Well, maybe it's still somewhat possible for the former, but probably not the latter. 

Edit: Wait, what am I thinking, Xen wouldn't be starting an actual war as opposed to the whole control thing. . . or, perhaps it'd fail and turn into a war? 

Modifié par Reives, 25 février 2012 - 09:48 .


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iwillkillfortali wrote...

ApplesauceBandit wrote...

D:

I dunno what 403 means but i'm gonna guess you can't see the image.


Maybe this will work

Image IPB

[Edit]  Its broke again.:crying:


/wrists

I used Imgur, I don't have an account on Photobucket or anything like that. I'm sorry, basically all it is is Tali sitting on a couch with the caption: COOL STORY BOSH'TET.

I thought it was funny :(

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ApplesauceBandit wrote...

iwillkillfortali wrote...

ApplesauceBandit wrote...

D:

I dunno what 403 means but i'm gonna guess you can't see the image.


Maybe this will work

Image IPB

[Edit]  Its broke again.:crying:


/wrists

I used Imgur, I don't have an account on Photobucket or anything like that. I'm sorry, basically all it is is Tali sitting on a couch with the caption: COOL STORY BOSH'TET.

I thought it was funny :(


redundant post sry XD

Modifié par Nima55, 25 février 2012 - 11:40 .


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New from DA.
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I've always imagined that the squad from ME1 in general would have some kind of internal dread whenever they come to a point where Shepard is driving a vehicle they'll be riding in- scars on their subconscious from memories of Mako expeditions.

Modifié par Atemeus, 25 février 2012 - 02:32 .


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Atemeus wrote...

New from DA.
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I've always imagined that the squad from ME1 in general would have some kind of internal dread whenever they come to a point where Shepard is driving a vehicle they'll be riding in- scars on their subconscious from memories of Mako expeditions.


Lol. This is pretty good. I hope there's an illustration of this but in the Hammerhead.

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hey guys I just wanted to share my current wallpaper that I found the other day Image IPB

I thought it was quite cute ^^

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Nima55 wrote...

hey guys I just wanted to share my current wallpaper that I found the other day
*snippity snip*
I thought it was quite cute ^^

Ah yes, we all love this one, Rune especially, I think.

Top:
http://desmond.image....jpg&res=medium

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FsDxRAGE wrote...
Ah yes, we all love this one, Rune especially, I think.

it is a lovely piece.

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Can anyone confirm if Tali is going to be a permanent squad mate and a romance option? I've read both sides that she will and wont. Bioware had better put her in.

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TheFirstZett wrote...

Can anyone confirm if Tali is going to be a permanent squad mate and a romance option? I've read both sides that she will and wont. Bioware had better put her in.

Yes.

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Okay, sweet. Thanks.

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If she wasn't a permanent squad mate, I would personally give Bioware the honorary medal of Middleth Fingereth. The highest degree in the hierarchy of Screweth Youeth.

Modifié par XenoAlbedo, 26 février 2012 - 12:29 .


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agreed

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Yeah same here.

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Do you think Bioware will show her face? I read a recent article that said something like " ... Garrus's face is...( I can't remember but then it goes on to say) it is almost as tough as creating Tali's face, or something like that

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XenoAlbedo wrote...

If she wasn't a permanent squad mate, I would personally give Bioware the honorary medal of Middleth Fingereth. The highest degree in the hierarchy of Screweth Youeth.

+100

@TheFirstZett It's still unknown if we are going to see Tali's face, however we will see how Quarians look like underneath the helms.

Modifié par Deventh, 26 février 2012 - 12:39 .


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TheFirstZett wrote...

Do you think Bioware will show her face? I read a recent article that said something like " ... Garrus's face is...( I can't remember but then it goes on to say) it is almost as tough as creating Tali's face, or something like that

According to a source who apparently has played through ME3 (many of us in the spoiler group believe he was one of the game testers and he's given quite a bit of info on ME3 that seems quite accurate), only players who's Shepard romanced Tali in ME2 and continued the romance in ME3 will get to see her face behind her visor.

EDIT: Deventh - There has been no confirmation that we will see other Quarians without their helmets.

Modifié par AVPen, 26 février 2012 - 12:49 .


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how about underneath the suits? You know thats what you all wanna see anyways, backwards knees and all.

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AVPen wrote...

TheFirstZett wrote...

Do you think Bioware will show her face? I read a recent article that said something like " ... Garrus's face is...( I can't remember but then it goes on to say) it is almost as tough as creating Tali's face, or something like that

According to a source who apparently has played through ME3 (many of us in the spoiler group believe he was one of the game testers and he's given quite a bit of info on ME3 that seems quite accurate), only players who's Shepard romanced Tali in ME2 and continued the romance in ME3 will get to see her face behind her visor.

EDIT: Deventh - There has been no confirmation that we will see other Quarians without their helmets.



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XenoAlbedo wrote...
If she wasn't a permanent squad mate, I would personally give Bioware the honorary medal of Middleth Fingereth. The highest degree in the hierarchy of Screweth Youeth.

To be honest...
She has been in 2 games already. I'd say that's pretty good and would excuse Bioware making her an important temporary squad mate instead.