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[Crackseed]

I don't buy it to be honest - and even if it may be true, I refuse to leave her behind - I'd rather enjoy having my LI of choice for my canon Shep along for the crazy ride. The end of the trilogy in a galaxy spanning war should not be all happy roses and sweet kisses. Hell, if it affects your LI more then most, to me that's going to make the story get REALLY interesting, no matter how many silent, hidden teary moments I might have as a result >.>

Modifié par crackseed, 29 février 2012 - 01:25 .

[Spartanburger]

Olueq wrote...

Assuming these endings are real. Which I am very skeptical of....

Who are these endings suppose to appeal to?

That is the big point made by critics of the endings.

First off, if they are abiding by a NDA, they are allowed to tell us the endings but not allowed to post pictures or video? Sorry, but that doesn't add up.

And secondly, these endings don't appeal to anyone. They also kill the replay value, which is something that all ME games so far have had to the extremes. If there is very little variation to the endings (in regards to the characters) then people generally won't want to play it for more than one or two playthoughs. I've hit at least 10 each for ME1 and ME2. I doub't they'd do something like that for ME3.

Also, if these endings are real, and they leave such a 'bad tast you ones mouth' so to speak, would that not hurt the MP base? For me at least it would.

[Olueq]

Total Biscuit wrote...

Templar Fox wrote...

Well, take solace in the fact guys that everyone suffers from the horrible debacle of the ME 3 endings, not just Tali.

Like what was said though, don't expect to be building any homes with Tali anytime soon... or ever, for that matter.

Tali and Garrus suffer more than most though. I'd argue they have the worst potential fate out of all the LI's, except maybe Jack if you stuff up stopping Cerberus getting her.

Do we actually know what happens to them? Im sure they can find a way, at least with the Normandy to manufacture dextro based food. 

[Someone With Mass]

HellBovine wrote...

Olueq wrote...

Assuming these endings are real. Which I am very skeptical of....

Who are these endings suppose to appeal to?

Saphra?

Let's see...appeal to the borderline fanatical minority or the majority that has a different take on what a good ending is and clearly holds more money?

I think we should appeal to that small group that wants to see everything burn around them!

[DXLelouch15]

you could always do the Merge ending since i think Tali wont need certain food then

[Collider]

Also, if these endings are real, and they leave such a 'bad tast you ones mouth' so to speak, would that not hurt the MP base? For me at least it would.

I don't really see that happening. If people found multiplayer fun in the first place, I doubt the single player ending is going to do much to stop that.

I guess you could look at Halo 2 as an example of that. Commonly perceived as having a lackluster ending, yet multiplayer was still strong.

[Spartanburger]

I'm pretty sure that Tali would be able to make a dextro nutrient synthesizer (a small scale version of the machines on the liveships) from some scraps of metal, some mud and an omni-tool anyway.

[MrAtomica]

HellBovine wrote...

Olueq wrote...

Assuming these endings are real. Which I am very skeptical of....

Who are these endings suppose to appeal to?

Saphra?

Saphra. Zulu. Lotion. Smudboy. Basically everyone who spent months p*ssing and moaning about how "Bioware will totally just cop out and make every ending far too happy-go-lucky. Screw it guys, pre-order cancelled." The funny part is, they might just feel vindicated at this point. I'm glad Saphra decided to up and leave. The stream of gloating threads will be bad enough as it is.

[OneWithTheAssassins]

Thats why I'm saying that this is some massive troll on everyone who likes Mass Effect.

[Olueq]

Collider wrote...

Also, if these endings are real, and they leave such a 'bad tast you ones mouth' so to speak, would that not hurt the MP base? For me at least it would.

I don't really see that happening. If people found multiplayer fun in the first place, I doubt the single player ending is going to do much to stop that.

I guess you could look at Halo 2 as an example of that. Commonly perceived as having a lackluster ending, yet multiplayer was still strong.

This is completely different than Halo MP.

[Total Biscuit]

The fool you should have eaten wrote...

"The Horrible Debacle of the ME3 ending" blah blah blah. You know what, no one here can actually tell me what happened. Why? BECAUSE IT HASN' T YET! People here can only say I heard from so and so who heard from so and so. This is not any reason for me to believe. Also you cannot say that i am in denial since NONE of you have actual legitimate evidence for yourselves. So if you are that easily disuaded in your hopes for an enjoyable game, why bother with being on BSN, or even playing the game in general. You guys saw how the "suicide mission" went. If you did enough things right it turned out pretty well. Maybe this go around isn't so clear cut, but still do you really think that you will get that screwed over by Bioware. They are a company. They like money. Who wants to buy games that suck no matter what? No one. They would not do that to their fan base. It wouldn't be trolling. It would be stupid. So think twice before you go off and jump on the band wagon of judging a game that has NOT even come out yet!

... Also the ME2 Tali theme just came up on my playlist. Rage has decreased majorly.

This is confirmed directly from one of the the guys that got one of the Space Editions, has finished the game with full assets, all allys, as prepared as it is possible to be, did all the options abailable, and then extracted the video files to make sure there weren't any he missed.

There are 100% no happy endings, and no endings where Shepard ends up with any of the LI's.

And Tali and Garrus, if on board the Normandy at the end of the game, will suffer horrible, tragic ends. Denying it isn't going to change that.

[RiouHotaru]

Spartanburger wrote...

Olueq wrote...

Assuming these endings are real. Which I am very skeptical of....

Who are these endings suppose to appeal to?

That is the big point made by critics of the endings.

First off, if they are abiding by a NDA, they are allowed to tell us the endings but not allowed to post pictures or video? Sorry, but that doesn't add up.

And secondly, these endings don't appeal to anyone. They also kill the replay value, which is something that all ME games so far have had to the extremes. If there is very little variation to the endings (in regards to the characters) then people generally won't want to play it for more than one or two playthoughs. I've hit at least 10 each for ME1 and ME2. I doub't they'd do something like that for ME3.

Also, if these endings are real, and they leave such a 'bad tast you ones mouth' so to speak, would that not hurt the MP base? For me at least it would.

Amen.  Garrusmancer here, but I feel your guy's pain.  This entire debacle over the endings leaves me feeling drained of any motivation.  I want, desperately want, to believe there's a "good" ending, because the endings that we see don't seem to coincide with anything of Bioware's previous style.

On top of which is the flagrant NDA hypocrisy.  Indeed, it's okay to tell us what the endings are, but you can't give us tangible evidence?

Not to mention the unusual contradictions.  Walters contradicts Xio/Tank who contradicts Prima Guy who contradicts Walters.  So whose the accurate source?

[DXLelouch15]

so basicly negative jackasses caused these endings to occur
why cant we find another planet and dump them on it

[jtav]

If the outsider may interject?

I suspect it appeals to the writers' desire to continue the franchise without creating a headache for themselves. The galaxy ends up in roughly the same place in every ending.All the characters who could have had an influence on the galaxy are removed from play. There are no romance complications to worry about.

But you'd think they'd include a silver lining somewhere.

[Spartanburger]

Collider wrote...
I don't really see that happening. If people found multiplayer fun in the first place, I doubt the single player ending is going to do much to stop that.

I guess you could look at Halo 2 as an example of that. Commonly perceived as having a lackluster ending, yet multiplayer was still strong.

I loved H2's ending.


Well, for me at least, the fun in MP is playing with friends in a universe you know and care for. If you know that no matter what you do it's screwed then for me that removes a portion of the MP playability. Not saying I wouldn't play it, I'm just saying that I wouldn't play it as much.

You know the ending (lol glassed) in Halo reach but everyone is just a faceless soldier in MP. In MP for ME3 you are an actual character. Massive difference there.

[RiouHotaru]

Total Biscuit wrote...

This is confirmed directly from one of the the guys that got one of the Space Editions, has finished the game with full assets, all allys, as prepared as it is possible to be, did all the options abailable, and then extracted the video files to make sure there weren't any he missed.

There are 100% no happy endings, and no endings where Shepard ends up with any of the LI's.

And Tali and Garrus, if on board the Normandy at the end of the game, will suffer horrible, tragic ends. Denying it isn't going to change that.

Then they need to post the videos.  Prove beyond all reasonable doubt.  Obviously there's no regard for the NDA since they spoiled that much of the story anyway.  So go the whole nine yards and give us EVERYTHING.

[KleinesWehWehchen]

Can't we take Tali with us to the final boss or has she to stay on the Normandy?

[Collider]

Now that the cat is out of the bag, I can also tell you that there's a certain scene in the game that implies that Liara is more important to Shepard than Tali is.

So, yea. Don't set your hopes too high.

[Spartanburger]

Another thing: I read something that said that Prima guy said that there was a different ending for NG+ playthroughs.

Two things from this: First, I hope so, and secondly, you see the problem here. "I knew this guy, who knew this guy, who knew this guy, who knew this guy, who knew this guy, who knew this guy's cousin, who knew this guy, who knew this guy, who..." you get my point.

[Collider]

jtav wrote...

If the outsider may interject?

I suspect it appeals to the writers' desire to continue the franchise without creating a headache for themselves. The galaxy ends up in roughly the same place in every ending.All the characters who could have had an influence on the galaxy are removed from play. There are no romance complications to worry about.

But you'd think they'd include a silver lining somewhere.

That's a good point that I hadn't considered. Though, there is an important change in the M ending that I'm not sure they could just ignore.

[Olueq]

Total Biscuit wrote...

The fool you should have eaten wrote...

"The Horrible Debacle of the ME3 ending" blah blah blah. You know what, no one here can actually tell me what happened. Why? BECAUSE IT HASN' T YET! People here can only say I heard from so and so who heard from so and so. This is not any reason for me to believe. Also you cannot say that i am in denial since NONE of you have actual legitimate evidence for yourselves. So if you are that easily disuaded in your hopes for an enjoyable game, why bother with being on BSN, or even playing the game in general. You guys saw how the "suicide mission" went. If you did enough things right it turned out pretty well. Maybe this go around isn't so clear cut, but still do you really think that you will get that screwed over by Bioware. They are a company. They like money. Who wants to buy games that suck no matter what? No one. They would not do that to their fan base. It wouldn't be trolling. It would be stupid. So think twice before you go off and jump on the band wagon of judging a game that has NOT even come out yet!

... Also the ME2 Tali theme just came up on my playlist. Rage has decreased majorly.

This is confirmed directly from one of the the guys that got one of the Space Editions, has finished the game with full assets, all allys, as prepared as it is possible to be, did all the options abailable, and then extracted the video files to make sure there weren't any he missed.

There are 100% no happy endings, and no endings where Shepard ends up with any of the LI's.

And Tali and Garrus, if on board the Normandy at the end of the game, will suffer horrible, tragic ends. Denying it isn't going to change that.

Again thats an assumption. Its also an assumption to believe a lot of what people are saying.

[Ianamus]

What did Bioware think they were doing? Did they honestly think that anybody would be happy with this?

The forums will go up in flames larger than when DA2 was released. These endings make DA2's look good. 

[Spartanburger]

Collider wrote...

Now that the cat is out of the bag, I can also tell you that there's a certain scene in the game that implies that Liara is more important to Shepard than Tali is.

It was also said that this was true due to a glitch.