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To be brutally honest, I'd cut her and just have Garrus have the evidence. We only have two hours and the geth/quarian subplot is actually fairly extraneous in that context. No time for subplots. A TV series would be different.

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ZenJestr wrote...

Olueq wrote...

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Youa re completely missing the point. They did something that amde no sense and is seemingly impossible,


They didn't pull it out of thin-air though and as long as you can find some way to explain them having a body to recover it isn't THAT implausible.



Ummmm what?


You are saying "ME universe brought a dead person back to life; anything can happen"

We are saying "that took two years, advanced technology, hundreds of highly trained scientists, doctors, and engineers, and near infinite resources to cheat nature"

You're asking for something VERY similar to happen again, but in two weeks time.

It is impossible. It's literally like asking for them to build a fully functioning Mass Relay using the Normandy's drive core. In two days....with no element zero.

That makes no difference when it comes to subject of reviving dead brain cells and recovering memories. Finding a nearby planet or moon with dextro food on it makes more sense to me.

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You have good points, but her role is drastically increased in ME2 compared to the first.

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I think if anything they'd give Tali a much smaller role in a film if they didn't just cut her out completely.

I don't think that this movie will be any good at all. They need to increase the quality of the story. The story we have now may work in a game but not in a movie.

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jtav wrote...
To be brutally honest, I'd cut her and just have Garrus have the evidence. We only have two hours and the geth/quarian subplot is actually fairly extraneous in that context. No time for subplots. A TV series would be different.

Garrus doesn't really offer anything to the story. Tali at least has that relevant background with the geth.

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No, but he was the first substitute I came up with and would sell a ton of toys. Wrex would probably work even better.

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KleinesWehWehchen wrote...



I don't think that this movie
will be any good at all. They need to increase the quality of the story.
The story we have now may work in a game but not in a movie.






I agree.

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Garrus doesn't really offer anything to the story. Tali at least has that relevant background with the geth.


Rewrite him as Saren's brother or former comrade or something. Or the brother of Nihlus.

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That makes no difference when it comes to subject of reviving dead brain cells and recovering memories. Finding a nearby planet or moon with dextro food on it makes more sense to me.


Unlikely but by no means impossible. I have no problem really imagining that this is the case and that the Kodiak was in working order after the crash.

I was arguing against Tali finding some way to survive on the planet without ever being able to leave it. If she can leave it then sure, imagine whatever you want.

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Well thats what Im saying, theres possibilities. But really it all comes down to how stupid the ending is.

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jtav wrote...

To be brutally honest, I'd cut her and just have Garrus have the evidence. We only have two hours and the geth/quarian subplot is actually fairly extraneous in that context. No time for subplots. A TV series would be different.

True. And quite frankly, the only reason Garrus is important is because Kaiden is almost certainly the one whom they would have die over Ashley, and thus Shepard would need a right-hand man, and a guy-friend.

Quite frankly, Wrex isn't hugely important either. Arguably moreso then Tali, but they could remove him in order to streamline the movie process.

Actually, I could see it going one of two ways. Depending on whom they play up as the LI in the first movie, Ashley or Liara. If Ashley is the LI, then Kaiden will have to be the one whom dies, which makes Garrus much more important, thus allowing them to focus more on him and cut out Tali and possibly Wrex.

If Liara is the LI, then Ash becomes superfluous because she is not all that interesting and doesn't really have anything that she does other then being a potential LI. She can either die or just be cut entirely. Garrus then become much more of a side character with Kaiden as Shepard's buddy, and Tali has much more room to be included.

Quite frankly I'm not fond of either of them, but if I have to put up with Liara to allow Tali access, I'm willing to do that. I know that if a second movie is made Miranda has about a 95% shot at being the LI just because it's the easy choice, but I can still dream of a ME movie where Tali is the LI...after all, hope springs eternal!

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Kaidan I imagine not being totally cut, but he'd be a minor character.

Ashley and Liara would both be love interests, but Ashley would die on Virmire.

Wrex I think they'd keep around just because the confrontation with him is good.

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Actually, and I say this as a Miranda fan, she's a goner. The femme fatale for whom redemption equals death. She might be the LI, but it would be Bond girl style. Tali...I actually expect the Tali-type to get the guy in mass media. I read a lot of romance and she and Liara are the classic heroine type. But that also means they don't contrast well.

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Yeah, that's probably true about Miranda. The movies would end up sort of like the Bonf films in that Shepard would get a somewhat different main LI every movie, and I could easily see Miranda dying in order to make way for his original ME1 LI in a potential 3rd movie.

Honestly, it's Tali's alienness that keeps her out. Take the exact same character but make her human, and she would be a much bigger contender for a potenial LI and thus being included as a major character. Unfortunately, movies attract a much wider crowd then games, including family groups and highly-traditional people who would look at a human falling in love with an alien as disgusting, no matter how well written. Liara might get away with it, being so human in appearance, but no quarian or turian would get the same pass.

Not that I have any problem with those sort of highly-tranditional people. I know a few of them and they are some of the best people whom I know, but I disagree with that notion in this case. Quite frankly, if the Mass Relays were discovered tomorrow and we entered this entire alien world, I don't think that the species barrier would effect me, if I found someone whom I genuinely cared for.

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but who would be a good choice to play as Tali theyed have to be smart and have cute look to them

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If Tali were in the movie, I'd imagine she'd be CGI, so your only concern is VA.

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DXLelouch15 wrote...

but who would be a good choice to play as Tali theyed have to be smart and have cute look to them


And most importantly, a head that a bucket can fit.

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Tali may be a classic heroine, but she's also an alien and not merely just one with face paint. She's not gonna be a love interest and I'd be shocked if she were portrayed as having any kind of sex appeal.

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Saphra Deden wrote...

Tali may be a classic heroine, but she's also an alien and not merely just one with face paint. She's not gonna be a love interest and I'd be shocked if she were portrayed as having any kind of sex appeal.

well if they make her true to her characcter then its too late. Anyway, Ash Sroka already said she would love to play Tali in the movie, either just doing her voice or not.

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well if they make her true to her characcter then its too late. Anyway, Ash Sroka already said she would love to play Tali in the movie, either just doing her voice or not.


They are under nobligation to stay true to her character or even to stay true to the Mass Effect universe.

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Saphra Deden wrote...

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well if they make her true to her characcter then its too late. Anyway, Ash Sroka already said she would love to play Tali in the movie, either just doing her voice or not.


They are under nobligation to stay true to her character or even to stay true to the Mass Effect universe.

never said they were. Would be nice though... :happy:

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I noticed there wasn't a Tali pic on this page....

So here you go.

Image IPB

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never said they were. Would be nice though... :happy:


A lot of things would be nice but life is not nice.

I'd be surprised if the quarians ever featured heavily in the film series (if there is one). Hell, they might not even still be a living species. They could easily rewrite that bit of lore so that all the quarians were wiped out.

That said, it would be really cool to see some quarians with a budget. You know, where each quarian has a unique outfit and everything.

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Finally BACK ON TRACK!

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Finally BACK ON TRACK!


I think it's lame that Tali's outfit in ME3 is identical to her ME2 outfit. Lazy, Bioware, very lazy. They also should have given the admirals unique outfits.

Saw a deviant art drawing of that once.

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Saphra Deden wrote...

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Finally BACK ON TRACK!


I think it's lame that Tali's outfit in ME3 is identical to her ME2 outfit. Lazy, Bioware, very lazy. They also should have given the admirals unique outfits.

Saw a deviant art drawing of that once.


The other admirals didn't get special admiral outfits. Tali's is unique compared to the other quarians, anyway.

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Nkromelow wrote...

Saphra Deden wrote...

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Finally BACK ON TRACK!


I think it's lame that Tali's outfit in ME3 is identical to her ME2 outfit. Lazy, Bioware, very lazy. They also should have given the admirals unique outfits.

Saw a deviant art drawing of that once.


The other admirals didn't get special admiral outfits. Tali's is unique compared to the other quarians, anyway.

Yeah but shes the only one that dosnt get a new outfit. The suit does not need to change much anyway.         

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