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#16601
ZenJestr

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a few days ago I would've given you a very pessimistic response...

but since there's a mandatory Day 1 patch, I'm going to presume that the patch will "fix" that (more like put it back) since they knew that people would be digging into the files and leaking stuff like that.

#16602
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Didn't EA said that Pre load version already contain Day 1 patch files ?
And I still don't see Tali Flashback on my list...

http://www.iv.pl/ima...60037869199.jpg

#16603
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even if that's the case, they still need to patch the game anyway since they said that they're going to make race unlocks in MP easier to get...so maybe they can sneak that tweak in there...maybe..

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ZenJestr wrote...

a few days ago I would've given you a very pessimistic response...

but since there's a mandatory Day 1 patch, I'm going to presume that the patch will "fix" that (more like put it back) since they knew that people would be digging into the files and leaking stuff like that.


I find your optimism charming.

I can see a bright side though: my choice of romance is easy now as I will not allow Liara to appear in my Shepard's flash back no matter the cost!

#16605
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while I'm more optimistic than I was before, I'm still not hanging on the hope that the patch will fix things is true.....just that it's possible...

My hopes just went from negative to neutral...that's all..

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ZenJestr wrote...

while I'm more optimistic than I was before, I'm still not hanging on the hope that the patch will fix things is true.....just that it's possible...

My hopes just went from negative to neutral...that's all..


Your disappointment is going to be cute.

On the bright side though, there is a slim chance Bioware will fix this in the future (not on day 1 though). I stress "slim".

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KreagonPL wrote...

Hey guys maybe I'm blind but I only see Flashback Ashley/Liara in Movies folder.
So it's true that Tali don't count ?

No, it only means that they don't have one for her.

Don't worry though. It's just a bink video. Very easy to mod.:bandit:

#16608
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To me the liara ending kind of makes sense they shared a link though I do wish they would add tali.

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ME3 banter between Tali and Garrus.

Obvious spoiler is obvious, so don't blame me.

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Someone With Mass wrote...

ME3 banter between Tali and Garrus.

Obvious spoiler is obvious, so don't blame me.


Hm... sounds like Tali/Garrus romance in a way?

I like how they talk about the past though. Image IPB

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^Yeah, I think it'd be nice for those two to hook up, provided my Shep's not romancing Tali.

Modifié par Locutus_of_BORG, 03 mars 2012 - 04:26 .


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Locutus_of_BORG wrote...

^Yeah, I think it'd be nice for those two to hook up, provided my Shep's not romancing Tali.


Yeah, that's exactly it.

You snooze, you lose.

Image IPB

Modifié par Someone With Mass, 03 mars 2012 - 04:29 .


#16613
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Well, if Tali had to go with someone from the squad, I can't see a better guy than my right-hand "man" Garrus.

But sorry Garrus, Tali is mine. :P

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Garrus/Tali is a horrible romance with no basis and no reason to exist beyond cheap fan pandering.

Tali/Reegar is much better.

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Saphra Deden wrote...

Garrus/Tali is a horrible romance with no basis and no reason to exist beyond cheap fan pandering.

Tali/Reegar is much better.


So a very weak foundation is better than the fan pandering? 

I don't think so.

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Tali/Reegar would be my first choice too, but like I said, if she had to go with someone from the squad. ;)

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KingofEverything wrote...

Chief1029 wrote...

There is an author on Fanfiction.net who is creating a Halo/Mass Effect story with a poll on who is to be Master Chief's love interest. Even with only two chapters up so far, her has impressed me with how seamless he made it work so far and I can only hope it continues. It's called 'The Spartan Protocol' by 'Kamen Rider Fourze' and the reason I am posting this is I'm looking for support from Tali fans to vote for her on the poll in his page. And before you say "No, she should be with Shepard" or what not, Shepard is female in this fic so there is no conflict of interest for all us Tali/Shep fans. Hope to have your vote.

I adore Tali, and although I am not very familliar with the Halo story and lore, I don't think that she and MC would make a good couple. He's not the same sort of born leader qualities as Shepard, nor does he have anywhere near the same sheer compassion for his crew that Paragon Shepard has (and quite frankly, I've always felt that Paragon Shep was a much better match for Tali then Renegade Shep). I just don't think that it works.

As a matter of fact, I don't think that any of them really work for MC. Maybe Ashley or even Liara, but Miranda would try to control him and that would probably end up with one of them getting killed, Shepard barely got through to Jack so there is no way that MC could come anywhere close, I just don't see how any of the ME2 LIs would work. Ash is at least another straight up disciplined soldier who can look at him on equal grounds and wouldn't long for a more romantic relationship, and Liara is tough enough to look him in the eyes (figuratively speaking, I think that MC is what, 7 feet or something?) while still having a sort of healing quality to her that might possibly help with certain things.

The main difference I suppose is that, Shepard is a great soldier but he is also so much more. MC is nothing but a great soldier. Tali would never work with him. I don't think so at least.

On the other hand, that is just the impression that I got of MC after playing one game and nothing else. He might be entirely different then what I am saying if I looked deeper into him.




You should look deeper, there is far more to the Chief then mindless killing machine. If you really look at the Halo lore, John-117 is like a silent Shepard. He lets his actions do most of the talking. As for a Tali/Chief pairing in this fic (Shep is female so no conflict of interest), it's all about the plot material potential. Sure there will be some uneasiness with interacting with aliens but not as much as some people believe. There is no room for such petty thoughts in the Chief's mind, at least not in any significant amounts. Tali and John-117 have so much in common, a few are: they are both loyal to those that earn their loyalty, both have a strong sense of duty, and also, both have yet to show their faces to us. the common ground that both live in their suits is evedent as well. They're not meant to be perfect for each other right off the bat, it's all about the build up to the relationship and the character growth that acompanies it.

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Someone With Mass wrote...

So a very weak foundation is better than the fan pandering? 

I don't think so.


Very weak? No, it is a good foundation. Tali and Reegar obviously care for one another. Their relationship has already moved beyond a mere formal working relationship.

Both go out of their way to protect the other.

Explain to me how that is a weak foundation.

I think you are just personally biased somehow.

Fan pandering is bad, especially when it affects how characters behave.

#16619
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Gotta agree with the above. I think they just paired them off as an easy way to slam the door on trying to romance them in 3 if you didn't in 2.

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I agree with the Tali/Reegar idea in theory but i know the second i see Reegar getting emotionally close to Tali, im gonna find some way to kill him :devil:

Eh i guess i'll have to romance tali for everyone of my playthroughs... then it won't be a problem :P

#16621
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Fan pandering is what got us a Talimance and Garrusmance....

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ZenJestr wrote...

Fan pandering is what got us a Talimance and Garrusmance....


Neither of which were necessarily a good thing.

Tali was wasted as a character in ME2 and Garrus had his character development reset.

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a subjective statement, not fact.

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Tali developed as a character Garrus yes if you para'd him did reset.

But being on the outside of the debate they did do Tali's interest in shep well. When Kelly told me she liked me I thought well thats cute but I figured it'd go no further but then she actually said so. She was believable because in ME she was younger and more obsessed with finding a gift for her home then dating she later obtained what she wanted and like any good character after obtaining their goal they do other things they progress she progressed in not only taking on duties she didn't but also relaxing and being able to love someone. I was never part of the campaign of these two and didn't even know about it till I came on the boards nothing seemed contrived or fan service about Tali's romance.

Garrus digressed as a character he was focus on his work too obsessed to love anyone then in 2 if you para him he's backsliding into a murdering stalker. His interest in shep isn't as well done as Tali's because it feels like he's trying because shep wants to only not because he loves her its more like a verbal shrug of the shoulders with him.

#16625
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tbh though, none of the Mass Effect romances are really THAT well done (in terms of believability), given the time-frame that they happen. Headcanon'ing is kind of required.

3 conversations and then snu-snu and ilu bby 5ever isn't realistic or believable...

Modifié par ZenJestr, 03 mars 2012 - 06:10 .