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[Doommarine23]

ZenJestr wrote...

tbh though, none of the Mass Effect romances are really THAT well done, given the time-frame that they happen. Headcanon'ing is kind of required.

Headcanoning is kind of implied to be needed, honestly. The time-frame for mass-effect is never really given. Of course Shepard and the Squad would hangout and talk more between missions and down-time than the game shows, one perfect example of this, is Tali's Loyality mission.

In Game's Story and Reality, Taking back the Aleari took you hours, but in-game play its mere minutes.

Modifié par Doommarine23, 03 mars 2012 - 06:10 .

[Someone With Mass]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Very weak? No, it is a good foundation. Tali and Reegar obviously care for one another. Their relationship has already moved beyond a mere formal working relationship.

Both go out of their way to protect the other.

Explain to me how that is a weak foundation.

I think you are just personally biased somehow.

Fan pandering is bad, especially when it affects how characters behave.

I hope that you're aware that the same can apply to Garrus' and Tali's situation.

Not to mention that neither Kal or Tali have shown any deep emotional feelings for one and another, beyond the pretty reasonable care for co-workers.

Just because you're glad that someone you've worked with made it out of an accident alive doesn't mean that you're in love with that person.

[S.A.K]

Someone With Mass wrote...

ME3 banter between Tali and Garrus.

Obvious spoiler is obvious, so don't blame me.

It sounds like Garrus is talking over radio.

[ZenJestr]

yea, they're talking over the intercom. Tali is in Engineering and Garrus is at the main battery.

[Hadeedak]

To be fair, squad banter is weak in ME2 in general. I always assumed Tali and Garrus were bros, just like they were with my Shepard, because they were my go-to team in 1 and spent a lot more time off the ship than anyone else in 2. The same dynamic that make Shep and Tali (or Shep and Garrus) a good fit seems to work pretty well for Tali and Garrus.

That being said, on that playthrough, Tali's SOL. My Shepard grabbed the Garrus first. >>

But yeah. I love Tali. Cute, big shotgun, got your back.

[Someone With Mass]

Saphra Deden wrote...
That is BS and you know it. Tali was clearly very concerned for Kal'Reegar specifically, she wanted him to drop formailty and just call her Tali even though he was a subordinate. Reegar, even after giving his testimony on the Rayya, insisting on staying behind and arguing the charges against Tali.

That's a close friendship right there and easily the basis for a romantic one.

And this isn't a stretch? That it's a "close" friendship based on one sentence?

Some people are simply uncomfortable with formalities and don't like being referred to as "ma'am" or "sir".

Also, Kenneth nearly got court marshaled by the Alliance for defending Shepard's work, but that doesn't mean they're automatically best buds.

[XX55XX]

I've seen someone try their hand at a Tali/Garrus romance once for a fanfic. They didn't finish.

Modifié par XX55XX, 03 mars 2012 - 06:42 .

[the almighty moo]

i heard a rumour that if you side with the geth in the geth/quarian scuffle, she jumps off a cliff, and you see a portion of her face in the cracked faceplate.

dont quote me on this, it might be a load of ol' tripe.

[XX55XX]

the almighty moo wrote...

i heard a rumour that if you side with the geth in the geth/quarian scuffle, she jumps off a cliff, and you see a portion of her face in the cracked faceplate.

dont quote me on this, it might be a load of ol' tripe.

That sounds awesome. She doesn't want to kill you, so she commits suicide instead. Awesome.

Looks like ME3 will have a lot of replay value (barring the endings, of course).

[Hyrist]

Saphra, I'd like to introduce you to a couple of my friends sometime.

They began hating each other, I mean, venomately. But they had the same interests so they stifeled them so they could both continue to do what they enjoied in peace.

Eventually, they grew to like each other.

Then, love each other.

They're married now.

It's not impossible for opposite or initially tense relations to turn into a working romance. You might consiter it fan pandering, but I've seen this sort of relationship blossem before first hand - it's not as far out of left field as you beleive it to be.

It sounds to me like you're just a stronger fan of Kal'Reger, which is fine, I would be a fan too, but I also know why Kal stayed away. (It's Tali who's familiar with her. Kal's just starstruck and he feels he should keep his distance from the pricess of the Quarians.)

[Eyerock]

From what I've seen it's very obvious that Kal'Reegar might have feelings for Tali beyond mere friendship. However, I sincerely doubt that Tali feel the same way about Reegar. She cares alot for Reegar, 'tis true, but she hasn't shown any signs of romance towards the poor bloke.
I smell a bad case of the friendzone!!!

And we must not forget that our beloved Tali is still a young lady with some daddy issues, something which might explain why she seem to have a thing for larger-than-life men. Her father was a huge, respected figure in the migrant fleet, while SHepard is a huge, respected figure in the alliance. Both were brilliant, tactical leaders in their own right, a trait which Tali herself seem to both idolize and (maybe) strives to emulate.

Though Garrus may not be as respected and clean-cut as Shepard, he is quite the character himself. A rugged, sharp-shooting, tactical genious with a strict sense of justice. He might not be as gentle and well-spoken as a paragon Shepard, and he and Tali have locked horns in childish bickering earlier. However that might be part of the appeal.

Though he is extremely different from what Tali sees as a perfect mate, he does have the qualities that she admires. Also, their differences and quarrels might be what makes him so attractive in the eyes of Tali.
He is so edgy, dangerous, frustrating, troublesome, annoying, yet so....Exciting !!!!

Kal'Reegar is a marvelous, courageous individual, but measured up against these odds he just becomes a very nice soldier.

[Hyrist]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Hyrist wrote...

Saphra, I'd like to introduce you to a couple of my friends sometime.

No thanks.

So you skipped over the entire point just to be rude?

Shows the quality of your character then.

Seriously what is wrong with people nowadays that a conversation cannot be kept civil unless under direct threat of consequence? Have we really fallen so low that we have to constantly have a gun kept to our head to act like decent people?

My faith in humanity continues to wane. 

Saphra Deden wrote...

"Kal... it's just Tali."

Totally ordinary for a superior officer to say.

Ahh, Talimancers.

 

Tali is and outgoing and friendly person. That could just be her extending friendship to him - given the fact they're both the sole survors of the Haestrom mission.

Thats not to deny any romantic interest on Tali's part. I just don't think it should be an automatic presumption that she wants to link suit-enviroments with him.

He shoots her down though - which made me cringe. I liked that guy. Would be cool that a non-romanced, non recurited Tali wind up with him in the right circumstances.

Modifié par Hyrist, 03 mars 2012 - 07:37 .

[Eyerock]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Eyerock wrote...

From what I've seen it's very obvious that Kal'Reegar might have feelings for Tali beyond mere friendship. However, I sincerely doubt that Tali feel the same way about Reegar.

"Kal... it's just Tali."

Totally ordinary for a superior officer to say.

Ahh, Talimancers.

Please explain how that shows romantic intent, cause I don't see what's so special about that. 

edit: Not sure what that last comment meant either! WHo said my comment was meant to represent the talimancer community?

Modifié par Eyerock, 03 mars 2012 - 07:38 .

[Hadeedak]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Eyerock wrote...

From what I've seen it's very obvious that Kal'Reegar might have feelings for Tali beyond mere friendship. However, I sincerely doubt that Tali feel the same way about Reegar.

"Kal... it's just Tali."

Totally ordinary for a superior officer to say.

Ahh, Talimancers.

For quarians? Maybe. It's not like we've seen ANY of them be big on formality beyond Reegar.

[ZenJestr]

IMHO, Tali x Kal makes a hell of a lot more sense than Tali x Garrus, but that's not saying much...

Tali x Kal is the typical shipper reaction to shipping characters: "they spoke, therefore they love"