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[Doommarine23]

UNiT-LT wrote...

Ohai Fellow CE bro's.

What up 

[Pottumuusi]

Saphra Deden wrote...

He did nobody any good.

Which is why they called him Archangel.

Modifié par Pottumuusi, 04 mars 2012 - 03:28 .

[ZenJestr]

what stabilizing force? The ruthless merc groups shown in ME2? The ones that extort the poor and weak and kill without remorse?

Yes, he did get his team killed. However, most of their deaths were on Sidonis' head.

He ended up not doing as much lasting good as he thought because problems of Omega's caliber are ingrained into its culture and a sniper won't fix things like that. However, he DID make a difference, however marginal. For every murderer he killed, he saved all of the lives that would've been threatened by that person, for example.

[Dybia]

Saphra Deden wrote...

ZenJestr wrote...

what stabilizing force? The ruthless merc groups shown in ME2? The ones that extort the poor and weak and kill without remorse?

I never met a single civilian on Omega who hated the gangs. Funny how that works out. On the contrary the civilians we did talk to, such as the ones in the plague district, were quite content to have the Blue Suns running things. They were even sorry to see them go. 

In their own words, "The Suns kept things nice and stable..."

So I'm not so sure that Garrus' nickname was one of honor and reverence and not merely one of mockery.

Yeah, but I'm pretty sure they weren't so fond of the blood pack and Eclipse. The suns weren't good people at all but they were the lesser of the three evils.

[HellBovine]

Saphra Deden wrote...

I never met a single civilian on Omega who hated the gangs. Funny how that works out. On the contrary the civilians we did talk to, such as the ones in the plague district, were quite content to have the Blue Suns running things. They were even sorry to see them go. 

In their own words, "The Suns kept things nice and stable..."

So I'm not so sure that Garrus' nickname was one of honor and reverence and not merely one of mockery.

I'm sure those people who starved to death after being locked in their homes by the Suns just adored them.

Modifié par HellBovine, 04 mars 2012 - 03:45 .

[S.A.K]

How did you guys activate your game? Digital copy?

[Ghost Rider LSOV]

S.A.K wrote...

How did you guys activate your game? Digital copy?

Yeah. Looks like it's tied already to our account through Origin, since I didn't have to enter a key here.

But I'm not changing my custom Shep face. And no he's not Fist., I've seen him in the same scene with Fist, Fist is different -mouth scar, different jaw, etc.- and whinny. Also dead, because I brought Wrex with me everytime.
Not to mention I had created the face before I knew what Fist looked like.

Modifié par Ghost Rider LSOV, 04 mars 2012 - 03:51 .

[ZenJestr]

because you've personally spoken to every single individual on the station right?

Having the Blue Suns govern the district is like having the Mafia run your district. As long as you pay up, you're fine. If you don't or you have something they want, you die. Stable and consistent yes, but not good.

And I love how you were giving **** to Lia'Vael a couple pages back for breaking the implied and insane law of just existing on the Citadel without any residence but find it perfectly fine that Space Yakuza is running the show and call someone who decided to do something about their cruelty foolish.

as for Garrus' nickname

[mauro2222]

UNiT-LT wrote...

Ohai Fellow CE bro's.

[Goose1004]

No Tali! Don't Jump! ***yes, Sheps face is photoshopped)***

[Ghost Rider LSOV]

Did you have to post it here too?

Although, I'll do my best to avoid this fate. FIGHTING FOR PEACE! (screwing for virginity?)

[Malagoth]

But are we even getting a glimpse of her face at least?

[UNiT]

Goose1004 wrote...

No Tali! Don't Jump! ***yes, Sheps face is photoshopped)***

Having fun are we?

[bluewolv1970]

does anyone know if we do or do not see tali's face at all in ME3...how can something like this not already be known, when the game is being broken line by line in the spoiler section??? I have avoided spoilers in general this I would not mind knowing?

[Goose1004]

bluewolv1970 wrote...

does anyone know if we do or do not see tali's face at all in ME3...how can something like this not already be known, when the game is being broken line by line in the spoiler section??? I have avoided spoilers in general this I would not mind knowing?

All that I've heard (from various forums) is that we'll either get to see her face after the pic I posted, or she hands us a photograph of herself but her face gets blocked out by a lense flare.  I can't verify either of them.

[ZenJestr]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Ohhh, I get it. I'm somehow not being fair when I base my stance off of my own experience in the game rather than just taking Garrus at his word?

No, I was merely "criticizing" your word choice. We're both just going off of one individual's take on the issue anyway and there are always multiple sides to every story.

Saphra Deden wrote...

Sorry, but you need to wake up. Garrus needs to as well. He was not doing any good. Killing mercs on Omega does not benefit the people on Omega. All it does is further destabilize the station.

Just because he failed to completely restructure Omega's broken society does not mean he didn't do any good. 

Saphra Deden wrote...
If the Suns and Eclipse and whomever are weakened, do you think a responsible and civil government is gonna spring up? No really, tell me.

of course not, I never said there would and i apologize if I implied it. However his intentions weren't to completely eradicate the merc groups, just to make them think twice before they use their power to commit crimes against the innocent, which he DID make progress towards even if it was temporary. This was Garrus' biggest failure, IMHO. He simply acted without thinking of the consequences or enacting an actual solution. If he had coupled his efforts with a long term plan to make sure that the innocent were protected, it would've been much better.

However that still doesn't negate the good he did. Just because he failed doesn't mean he didn't do anything positive. You grade...well...everything (from what I've seen so far) on a Sink or Swim scale.

Modifié par ZenJestr, 04 mars 2012 - 04:51 .

[BatmanPWNS]

I think it's pretty weak that Tali jumps off. I was expecting her to jump into a pile of Geth and start shooting every one of them before they kill her. But I guess Bioware was too lazy to put that cutscene in.

[magnuskn]

I hope the mods use their newfound power to ban all the trolls who come here just to, y'know, troll the thread. It should be pretty easy to pick them out of the crowd.

[DarkHod]

Wait, so Tali is a canon death?

[magnuskn]

DarkHod wrote...

Wait, so Tali is a canon death?

Optionally, not "canon".

Which, after this game, is up for grabs anyway.