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[Cheese of Borg]

Bacusan wrote...

Cheese of Borg wrote...

Just watched tali kill her self on you tube. I feel really, really, really sad. Really sad. Really Really sad. Really god damn sad.

truth be told, I dare not get near that video

Don't touch it, the only thing more depressing would be watching a man starve to death as he is straped to a TV playing Two and a Half men.

[Lemonite]

I also wouldn't mind seeing a list of Tali's messages from Datapad.

Darn me and my android devices! >:\\

[Ampmaster]

That's not depressing cheese, his brain would kill him after an hour or two, in human LI news, I'm working at picking up a Kelley Chambers equivalent, we're doing sushi friday

In Tali news why the hell is it so hard to romance Liara on my alt? Like seriously I have to physically force myself...


edit: refering to the redhead I'm having dinners with as a Chambers equivalent is easily in the top 10 of the nerdiest things I have ever done

Modifié par Ampmaster, 15 mars 2012 - 04:51 .

[forthary]

I never would want Tali to have her people go through Genocide by the Geth. I knew during the ordeal between both of them that things could get bad, but I've invested time and credits into seeing this moment of peace come together. Plus, I realized I couldn't support Tali every time, I foresaw that I would need to take at least one chance and put her life in my hands when she wanted to do something her way. I wanted both of them to seek peace because not only does the Galaxy need to work together against the reapers, but the Geth could benefit every race besides the quarians, and I believe the quarians needed the geth as badly as the quarians needed the geth.

If things were to go sour (I.E.: No effective Paragon or Renegade options were available) I would have instantly pulled out my N7 Eagle and capped legion by surprise to prevent him from uploading the code. While machines are fascinating objects, I will never give tali up over some sort of AI or VI, not even EDI. I felt this way before in ME2 and nothing has changed in ME3.

And it's a good thing I didn't, the cutscenes are disturbing for me to watch, although 3 is obviously far worse, as no matter what you do, Tali dies. Then again, even if I did save her, what good what it do for me? She would never love me again(The same is probably true if I either betray or not support her in ME2), she would refuse to help me for anything, and she would no doubt become a burden, because she would make probably multiple suicide attempts and her mental state will be shattered like glass.

That reminds me, she is pretty vulnurable to suggestion and commands...I hate the idea of bringing this up, but I think that if the game had more dialog creativity, a renegade female shepard 'could', with a high enough renegade, tender Tali's mind enough to have her submit to a female shepard and engage in a romance. It's a scary thought, having Tali submit and date a female shepard, but I can totally see this as being possible, though with some drawbacks.

[Mr. Big Pimpin]

Ampmaster wrote...

In Tali news why the hell is it so hard to romance Liara on my alt? Like seriously I have to physically force myself...

Is the trouble that you know you'd rather romance Tali? If so, play as FemShep.

[Ampmaster]

Mr. Big Pimpin wrote...

Ampmaster wrote...

In Tali news why the hell is it so hard to romance Liara on my alt? Like seriously I have to physically force myself...

Is the trouble that you know you'd rather romance Tali? If so, play as FemShep.

This could work, but even my lady type alter ego would know "Dem hips, dat mask, dat mass!"

[Lemonite]

forthary wrote...

That reminds me, she is pretty vulnurable to suggestion and commands...I hate the idea of bringing this up, but I think that if the game had more dialog creativity, a renegade female shepard 'could', with a high enough renegade, tender Tali's mind enough to have her submit to a female shepard and engage in a romance. It's a scary thought, having Tali submit and date a female shepard, but I can totally see this as being possible, though with some drawbacks.

I'm a bit confused here. Are you saying it's a scary thought that she would be in a relationship with a female Shepard, or it's a scary thought that she could be "manipulated" like that?

[Ampmaster]

forthary wrote...

That reminds me, she is pretty vulnurable to suggestion and commands...I hate the idea of bringing this up, but I think that if the game had more dialog creativity, a renegade female shepard 'could', with a high enough renegade, tender Tali's mind enough to have her submit to a female shepard and engage in a romance. It's a scary thought, having Tali submit and date a female shepard, but I can totally see this as being possible, though with some drawbacks.

It's called "seduction" and it's possible for just about everyone in many cases but crossing gender lines? It really depends on the personality.

But I believe you mean more the manipulation and I think that's changed as we've progressed through the games, she's an adult and pretty solid on her feet now

Modifié par Ampmaster, 15 mars 2012 - 04:57 .

[Mr. Big Pimpin]

Lemonite wrote...

forthary wrote...

That reminds me, she is pretty vulnurable to suggestion and commands...I hate the idea of bringing this up, but I think that if the game had more dialog creativity, a renegade female shepard 'could', with a high enough renegade, tender Tali's mind enough to have her submit to a female shepard and engage in a romance. It's a scary thought, having Tali submit and date a female shepard, but I can totally see this as being possible, though with some drawbacks.

I'm a bit confused here. Are you saying it's a scary thought that she would be in a relationship with a female Shepard, or it's a scary thought that she could be "manipulated" like that?

I seriously doubt Shepard could force Tali to turn bi. That's ridiculous.

[Ampmaster]

Tali friendly alt ending


Apparently my fic inspired this guy

[Lemonite]

Mr. Big Pimpin wrote...

I seriously doubt Shepard could force Tali to turn bi. That's ridiculous.

My thought exactly.

[forthary]

Mr. Big Pimpin wrote...

I seriously doubt Shepard could force Tali to turn bi. That's ridiculous.

Not as ridiculous as the *Comment corrupted*

Lemonite wrote...

I'm a bit confused here. Are you saying it's a scary thought that she would be in a relationship with a female Shepard, or it's a scary thought that she could be "manipulated" like that?

It's a scary thought that she would be in a relationship with a female shepard.

Ampmaster wrote...

It's called "seduction" and it's possible for just about everyone in many cases but crossing gender lines? It really depends on the personality.

But I believe you mean more the manipulation and I think that's changed as we've progressed through the games, she's an adult and pretty solid on her feet now

You do make a good point.  I believe she has matured, but she still has doubts about herself, especially if you invite her up to her cabin and she describes how she feels about being an admiral and such.

I will say that it wouldn't be easy to convince Tali, as a female shepard, to engage in a relationship with her.  Like I said, in theory, if the game had more leeway with conversation, then I could see it possible with a high renegade check.  Even if Shepard convinces her, it might be possible that she'll break out of it, or Shepard might succeed with limited result.  It would be rather interesting if such a situation existed in-game, but if you ask me, I think I prefer Tali dating Garrus over a Female Shepard.  A rather interesting 'what-if' thought came over me is all.

[Cheese of Borg]

I just ran over something in my mind: Tali falls from the cliff, Shepard, without a second thought, Jumps after her. Using biotics, he pulls her up to him. For a moment she fight's his embrace, before tightly holding him as they smash into the sea below. Just something that ran across my mind like a women streaking through the counsel chambers.

[Lemonite]

Ampmaster wrote...

Tali friendly alt ending


Apparently my fic inspired this guy

This is awesome! I could picture everything happening when I read this ending a few days ago, and having the music with it just gave me goosebumps!

Cheese of Borg wrote...

I just ran over something in my mind: Tali falls from the cliff, Shepard, without a second thought, Jumps after her. Using biotics, he pulls her up to him. For a moment she fight's his embrace, before tightly holding him as they smash into the sea below. Just something that ran across my mind like a women streaking through the counsel chambers.

That.... Wow.... 
Mind = Blown 

[Ryuji2]

Cheese of Borg wrote...

I just ran over something in my mind: Tali falls from the cliff, Shepard, without a second thought, Jumps after her. Using biotics, he pulls her up to him. For a moment she fight's his embrace, before tightly holding him as they smash into the sea below. Just something that ran across my mind like a women streaking through the counsel chambers.

What if Shepard can't use biotics? Lol just messin' with ya. That definitely feels like there'd be tons of emotion in a scene like that.

Edit: fun sidenote...it's REALLY hard to try to romance other characters...

Modifié par Ryuji2, 15 mars 2012 - 05:17 .

[Lemonite]

Ryuji2 wrote...

What if Shepard can't use biotics? Lol just messin' with ya. That definitely feels like there'd be tons of emotion in a scene like that.

Well, technically Shepard could just dive over the edge and catch her on the way down instead. Same basic outcome. That has the potential to be more intense, actually.

[Mr. Big Pimpin]

Ryuji2 wrote...

Edit: fun sidenote...it's REALLY hard to try to romance other characters...

I said this already: just play FemShep. Then you won't be tempted to go Tali.

[Ampmaster]

I hate Multiplayer, **** you bioware for tying this into the main game at all, horde mode can be fun and all but damn...

[Cheese of Borg]

Ampmaster wrote...

I hate Multiplayer, **** you bioware for tying this into the main game at all, horde mode can be fun and all but damn...

This general discussion is not welcome here, please exit this thread and find a general discusion forum.

 Chiktikka, sic balls!

[mauro2222]

Cheese of Borg wrote...

Lemonite wrote...

Cheese of Borg wrote...

But who the **** sides with just the Geth anyway?

As crazy as it may sound, there are some who don't like the Quarians... Or even... Think they deserved to be wiped out by the Geth....

We don't talk to those people. <_<

We don't go outside this thread anymore... bad things happen out there.  

I can't defend their actions, and they deserve all that suffering, they asked for it. Though genocide is damn crazy.

And yes, they deserve to suffer in the same way they brought suffering to the geth, again.

Modifié par mauro2222, 15 mars 2012 - 05:30 .

[Ampmaster]

Cheese don't make me put you on a sammich

Besides I'm desperately trying to distract my brain of the consequences of a completely closed personal environmental set up like the Quarians have, why must I over think things?

[Cheese of Borg]

Ampmaster wrote...

Cheese don't make me put you on a sammich

Besides I'm desperately trying to distract my brain of the consequences of a completely closed personal environmental set up like the Quarians have, why must I over think things?

They take regular showers abord the fleet (and Tali on the normandy).

[Mr. Big Pimpin]

Cheese of Borg wrote...

Ampmaster wrote...

Cheese don't make me put you on a sammich

Besides I'm desperately trying to distract my brain of the consequences of a completely closed personal environmental set up like the Quarians have, why must I over think things?

They take regular showers abord the fleet (and Tali on the normandy).

Yeah, I assume all you'd have to do is sterilize the room, which wouldn't be too difficult.

[Dilandau3000]

Lemonite wrote...

Ryuji2 wrote...

What if Shepard can't use biotics? Lol just messin' with ya. That definitely feels like there'd be tons of emotion in a scene like that.

Well, technically Shepard could just dive over the edge and catch her on the way down instead. Same basic outcome. That has the potential to be more intense, actually.

Even though it would be entirely against the mood of the scene, I could just imagine Tali saying in a sarcastic voice on the way down: "Great rescue attempt, Shepard. What were you planning on doing next?"

[darthrevaninlight]

forthary wrote...

And it's a good thing I didn't, the cutscenes are disturbing for me to watch, although 3 is obviously far worse, as no matter what you do, Tali dies. Then again, even if I did save her, what good what it do for me? She would never love me again(The same is probably true if I either betray or not support her in ME2), she would refuse to help me for anything, and she would no doubt become a burden, because she would make probably multiple suicide attempts and her mental state will be shattered like glass.

That reminds me, she is pretty vulnurable to suggestion and commands...I hate the idea of bringing this up, but I think that if the game had more dialog creativity, a renegade female shepard 'could', with a high enough renegade, tender Tali's mind enough to have her submit to a female shepard and engage in a romance. It's a scary thought, having Tali submit and date a female shepard, but I can totally see this as being possible, though with some drawbacks.

This kind of goes along with what you said:
"
Tali: Garrus – if you do not mind me asking – how do you feel about hunting a turian?
Garrus: Saren is either a traitor or a madman. Taking him down will restore the good name of turians everywhere.
Tali: Things are different among my people. There are so few of us. We are expected to be loyal, even when it is difficult." -ME1 Elevators

The implications there are pretty crazy; Tali is basically saying that if Saren were a quarian, the quarian people would most likely protect him simply because of the shared genetic code. Trust is so huge, so ingrained in Quarian culture, that barriers otherwise impenetrable come crashing down when someone on your "trust" side decides something. You just follow unquestioningly.
This is both Tali's greatest strength and greatest weakness. It's also what makes her such a great character. IMO