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darthrevaninlight

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Nashiktal wrote...

Well I supported kal reegar over garrus as a tali LI any day, but since they had to go kill him off (probably because they couldn't, or wouldn't get his voice actor back) I have to tolerate it.

Yeah... I wouldnt have been so dissatisfied if the two of them had ended up together rather that garrus and tali. I dont know, i just like the idea of tali and garrus as friends, but once they cross that line.... <_<

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Cryorex wrote...

Yeah as soon as I discovered Tali is a romance for two. I was like meh, I surpose she was a reasonably cool character from 1.

Then I started playing through 2. Which Tali had a fairly significant role in. And all the moments with her really grew on me.

She is now my favourite and only romance.

I started out playing as Femshep in 1, but then I met Tali.... immediately reset and played as mshep..... beat the game and was ninjamanced by ash..... didnt know tali wasnt romanceable :blink:

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Well Tali and Shepard were just good friends in ME1. As Shepard apparently had no idea Tali liked him in such a way. Apparently Liara knew.

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Tali lovers (or even people who didn't like the ending) - post here, they are collecting feedback on Mass Effect 3 for possible changes. http://social.biowar...8213/1#10098513
Be sure to mention you want an ending where shepard and Tali can be together!

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The only thing the ending really lacks is closure.

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Naltair wrote...

The only thing the ending really lacks is closure.

.. . it lacks  a bit more than that.

Modifié par Olueq, 17 mars 2012 - 03:28 .


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Cryorex wrote...

Well Tali and Shepard were just good friends in ME1. As Shepard apparently had no idea Tali liked him in such a way. Apparently Liara knew.

Which is weird because Liara for some reason in ME1 asked if he and Ashley were interested in each other. When that happened all I could think was "Are you serious?"

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Olueq wrote...

Naltair wrote...

The only thing the ending really lacks is closure.

.. . it lacks  a bit more than that.

Understatement of the year.

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Having seen the ending multiple times, the biggest missing feature is closure. The thing I see repeatedly in this thread is, what happens to Shepard + Tali, my friends... blah blah blah...

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Listening to Armageddon theme. Thinking of how amazing the ending could have been.
Probably having the dramatic epic part at the beggining of the ending. And the peaceful epic part near the end.

Modifié par Cryorex, 17 mars 2012 - 03:38 .


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If there's going to be a final boss battle in the 'true' ending, then I want at least Tali on my side when we face off against the boss. The last time, when I made my first playthrough in Mass Effect 2, I was afraid to lose Tali and put her in danger. Now that I realize the whole picture, I knew I couldn't lose her unless I stooped to some low levels, so I took her in my next playthrough, and it rocked. Seeing her help me aboard the Normandy SR-2 was kinda cute in a way...I'd do the same for her.  She might not be the sharpest knife in the armory, but she can still slice ya in two.

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Naltair wrote...

Having seen the ending multiple times, the biggest missing feature is closure. The thing I see repeatedly in this thread is, what happens to Shepard + Tali, my friends... blah blah blah...


Yah, but I see it as that plus the fact that it does not say what happens to the entire galexy in the aftermath.  A "fallout 2/3/NV" style slide show would be an example.

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Lol! They could kill everyone with Sol going supernova, it would make more sense and... we would have closure.

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mauro2222 wrote...

Lol! They could kill everyone with Sol going supernova, it would make more sense and... we would have closure.


Might even explain what was going on with the sun near Haestrom, but I think thats just wishful thinking there...

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forthary wrote...

If there's going to be a final boss battle in the 'true' ending, then I want at least Tali on my side when we face off against the boss. The last time, when I made my first playthrough in Mass Effect 2, I was afraid to lose Tali and put her in danger. Now that I realize the whole picture, I knew I couldn't lose her unless I stooped to some low levels, so I took her in my next playthrough, and it rocked. Seeing her help me aboard the Normandy SR-2 was kinda cute in a way...I'd do the same for her.  She might not be the sharpest knife in the armory, but she can still slice ya in two.

agree. who wouldn't want support from romance partner during a stressful battle? (given both of you survive, of course...)

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Naltair wrote...

The only thing the ending really lacks is closure.

Y'know, before I would have snidely said something like "and sense". That was before my eyes were opened by the Indoctrination Theory, however. Now to just hope that it's true.

But back on topic. I'm seriously hoping that the real ending that I pray we'll get has some closure for the romances. Keelah, I hope so...

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Cheese of Borg wrote...

Naltair wrote...

Having seen the ending multiple times, the biggest missing feature is closure. The thing I see repeatedly in this thread is, what happens to Shepard + Tali, my friends... blah blah blah...


Yah, but I see it as that plus the fact that it does not say what happens to the entire galexy in the aftermath.  A "fallout 2/3/NV" style slide show would be an example.
Serching for top pic...


So closure and explanation, what people seem to want is to know what they left behind and if they survive the fate of their Shepard.

I think that seems to be the bulk of the issues.

The current endings are so nebulous and symbolical that it can be frustrating.

Ultimately people want to feel that the actions they took mattered.

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It wasn't so much that I felt threatened by Garrus, it was a combination of guilt over him ending up with no other options (perhaps if I had chosen a different doctor, that would have been different) and disappointment that the two of them spent the final hours of the trip to earth focusing on each other. I think if that meeting (in the version where you romanced one of them) had turned into a cut scene with the three of you reminiscing and sharing a laugh I would have loved it, but with it being auto dialogue, followed by the standard blunt responses the game gives you when there is no more conversation to be had, I felt kinda left out.

Don't get me wrong though, I loved the Garrus/Tali interaction and always have, it just seemed bad timing and that the timing was a legacy of the fact that the most likely thing to happen at that point was Garrus and Tali hooking up (because the timing on that would be perfect), with you having a relationship with one of them being written in on top of it as the alternative. The fact it's before the final mission means it has better timing then even your own romances, whomever they are with.

Anyway, threatened? No, of course not. I trust Garrus and Tali. Slightly annoyed at the developers for ignoring Sheps needs on his final trip in the Normandy on his return to earth, yeah totally.

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forthary wrote...

If there's going to be a final boss
battle in the 'true' ending, then I want at least Tali on my side when
we face off against the boss. The last time, when I made my first
playthrough in Mass Effect 2, I was afraid to lose Tali and put her in
danger. Now that I realize the whole picture, I knew I couldn't lose her
unless I stooped to some low levels, so I took her in my next
playthrough, and it rocked. Seeing her help me aboard the Normandy SR-2
was kinda cute in a way...I'd do the same for her.  She might not be the
sharpest knife in the armory, but she can still slice ya in
two.


They were gonna have TIM pull an Albert Wesker and turn into some Reaper-like monster near the end but it was scrapped.

I'm a little worried that with that feedback thread Bioware will change a number of things (some of which don't need to be), besides the endings and its just gonna invoke more or the same level of criticism. They can't please everyone so I hope they don't try to.

Modifié par NR-Wesker, 17 mars 2012 - 03:52 .


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as long as i'm with Tali in the end they can change whatever they want.

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NR-Wesker wrote...

forthary wrote...

If there's going to be a final boss
battle in the 'true' ending, then I want at least Tali on my side when
we face off against the boss. The last time, when I made my first
playthrough in Mass Effect 2, I was afraid to lose Tali and put her in
danger. Now that I realize the whole picture, I knew I couldn't lose her
unless I stooped to some low levels, so I took her in my next
playthrough, and it rocked. Seeing her help me aboard the Normandy SR-2
was kinda cute in a way...I'd do the same for her.  She might not be the
sharpest knife in the armory, but she can still slice ya in
two.


They were gonna have TIM pull an Albert Wesker and turn into some Reaper-like monster near the end but it was scrapped.

I'm a little worried that with that feedback thread Bioware will change a number of things (some of which don't need to be), besides the endings and its just gonna invoke more or the same level of criticism. They can't please everyone so I hope they don't try to.


According to the art contained in the collectors edition:

"One of the plans on the drawing board was to have the Illusive man turn into a Reaper creature for the final battle.  Eventually, this plan was scrapped, since we wanted to give players the satisfaction of fighting a character they know rather than a random creature.  The design implies that the Illusive Man's weapon is his intelligence, not his physical strength."

It's too bad there is no art of Tali'Zorah in the book.  I seriously was hoping id be able to get some art of Tali and look at it when I want to.  There is art of Rannoch in the book, but its nothing special.  They were merely trying to combine Quarian Architecture and Geth Architecture.  Oh, and that both the inside and outside were meant to blend.

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Cheese of Borg wrote...

Yah, but I see it as that plus the fact that it does not say what happens to the entire galexy in the aftermath.  A "fallout 2/3/NV" style slide show would be an example.


I like those! Okay, maybe not in the same style but I would have rather seen something like that. Not that ME3 needs it in so much detail. It would be nice to just have some short cut scenes showing a bit of how life moves on after the fact. Doesn't need to spell it all out for us, just provide some closure. I think in a story that is so character based, that is important.

Nice Tali pic btw (and we're back on topic, bonus points).

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Honest to god, last night I had a dream which I can only describe as the ending that ME3 should have gotten.... then I woke up and felt nothing but bitterness and disappointment  when I realized it was just a dream and not the actual ending/s we got for real. :unsure:


Dammit.... there's no final rescue of Shepard from the Citadel by his crew.... no watching the Reapers being destroying into a million bits by the Crucible's energy.... no final goodbye of the Normandy crew as each character goes their separate ways to rebuild their societies.... no spot on Rannoch where Shepard and Tali decide to build their house together :crying: Dammit....

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The ending made me facepalm so hard.

I can't believe I cried like that during the game.

Liara's timebox :crying::crying::crying: 3 hours later in bed :crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying:
Mordin's death :crying::crying::crying: 3 hours later in bed :crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying:
Thane's death :crying::crying::crying: 3 hours later in bed :crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying:
Udina's death :devil::devil::devil: 3 hours later in bed :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
Kelly died :crying::crying::crying::crying: Why!? stupid paragon wheel.
Legion's death :crying::crying::crying: 3 hours later in bed :crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying:
EDI mentions Legion talking as individual :crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying:
All the corny dialogue :crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying:
Miranda's death :crying::crying::crying: 3 hours later in bed :crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying:
Kai Leng's death :devil::devil::devil::devil::devil::devil::devil::devil::devil::devil::devil::devil::devil::devil::devil::devil:

Ending :mellow: 3 hours later in bed :mellow: 3 days later :( 1 week later :( now :sick:

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Lemonite wrote...

Naltair wrote...

The only thing the ending really lacks is closure.

Y'know, before I would have snidely said something like "and sense". That was before my eyes were opened by the Indoctrination Theory, however. Now to just hope that it's true.

But back on topic. I'm seriously hoping that the real ending that I pray we'll get has some closure for the romances. Keelah, I hope so...

I just typed a re union scene, then acidently refreshed!:(  Want me to re do it?  I will if you want.