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[Himmelstor]

TrueMadayar wrote...

Himmelstor wrote...

Prefer to Purgatory, friend. Mad's Dungeon better bar then both.

I drink to that, doc. Wonder if we get to see what really happened, though. Somehow that fever pitch at the end...rather sure it's not real. Too closely resembles some of my fever dreams.

By the way, you got any good antibiotics around...there's something going around these days, and I'm one of the few that didn't catch it.

Try malanerin. Avoid heplacore, though.

[TrueMadayar]

Himmelstor wrote...

Calinstel wrote...

Without FTL communications, a signal from Alpha Centari would take over 4 years to reach Earth and it is the closest star system to us. A signal from the Normandy would be useless.
No. Thanks to the destruction of the relay's, Tali and Garrus die of starvation. The ending needs to be changed/corrected.
For Tali we fight. For Tali, we hold the line.

Yes.
Hate it, but Hold The Line!

Guess in some situations his speeches weren't that stupid, eh. Tali, Tali...how many nights to come do we wish for you.

[forthary]

One thing I must say is that I miss when Shepard + the crew would eventually scream in agony when they take health damage. On Shepard, it's funny. Sometimes I would deliberately take health damage, then suddenly put up my shields just to listen to Shepard scream in agony over the damage he was taking. On Tali, I got some...pretty twisted thoughts in my head as I heard her scream in agony. It was actually quite...erm...well, I think I'll keep that to myself, though I was provoked with how 'attractive' her screams seemed sometimes.

Nobody screams in pain anymore in ME3 when they take health damage. I miss that.

[A Blind Bandit]

TheWerdna wrote...

Fenrisfil wrote...

TheWerdna wrote...

Honestly the only reason i am not sobbing like a baby about the ending is because it is still possible for my Shepard to reunite with Tali and the rest of the Normandy crew.

In my ending Shepard lived, and he would never rest until he finds his friends and love interest. I had little hope of this working at first, since even with FTL it would take years just to go to the surrounding planets. Then I did the math and realized that it would only take a few decades to get from one end of the galexy to the other.

Thus is should be fairly easy to find the Normandy crew, they can't have ended up that far away. Thus the first thing my Shepard is/will do is find the nearest QEC, even if he has to break out of the hospital to do so. Then he is going to take the first ship he can get with FTL on it, even if he has to steal it, and go find his friends dammit!

And then they live happily ever after...on earth since the Relays still went boom, but still. (And why goes the stargazer ending still happen? I dunno, people decide to colonize that world because, hey, a Garden world not that far from earth)

There may be a problem with relative time when making extended FTL journeys. Though not sure if the ME universe just sidestepped that with made up tech. Also no idea quite the effect of going FTL in real life, since it's not generally considered possible. But, if it worked out anything like near light then while it may take 20 years to get across the milky way (that's without stopping to vent too I believe), a much much longer amount of time would probably have passed outside of the travelling ship. It's possible that, depending where they are standed all your friends could die of old age by the time you reach them. Both the speed and mass have implications for relative time, but without any mention that I know of about how that's dealt with in ME it's really impossible to say just how feasible the whole thing would be.

Anyway, physics aside. It's not going to be easy to track down the crew. If they are truly stranded, you'd pretty much have to scan every planet in the entire galaxy to find them. I'd like to think my Shepard would never give up trying to find Tali. But it seems unlikely he would ever succeed. They may get lucky and get picked up by a civilisation in whatever area they are in, or they may manage to repair the Normandy. But even then it won't be easy to get together. Probably the sensible thing to do would be to head to Rannoch and just hope Tali is able to get there too. Hopefully a quantum entanglement communication system will get set up to help survivors find each other. If Sheppard can keep tabs on the main worlds then he could run around planet scanning until he dies, or finds something. Sad way to spend your retirement.

Well aparently FTL in the ME universe somehow fixes the whole time difference issue, so if Shepard knows what direction they are in, it shouldn't take too long. Honestly, I choose to believe that the QEC was still functioning on the crashed Normandy  (for the sake of my own sanity). Since they were only in FTL for a few minutes, they can;t be that far away, maybe a few weeks at most via FTL.

From I imagine my Shepard would find a way to deterimine their location, either via triangulating the possition, the Normandy crew sending out a distress signel, or even just looking at the starts to try and figure out where they are reletivly.  I know its a long shot (it counts on a few "if"s), but there is no officaly evidence saying this is immpossible and the logic is sound (making it atleast possible) so I am going to keep imagining this is what happens. I choose to believe that maybe, one more time, Shepard continues to defy the laws of averages and gets lucky, and is able to find and rescue the Normandy crew. For my own happyness and to ward off depression I am going to pretend this is what happens,

Beside, it still makes way more sense then the rest of the endings.

The ships in Mass Effect can reach a speed that equals 12 light years per day, if they have a mass effect drive core. The Normandy was in the middle of Mass Relay jump from Charon to Arcturus, and Arcturus is only 36 light years from Earth. So we're looking at a maximum 3 day long trip to get to them. Not bad.

Modifié par A Blind Bandit, 19 mars 2012 - 01:40 .

[TheWerdna]

Calinstel wrote...

Without FTL communications, a signal from Alpha Centari would take over 4 years to reach Earth and it is the closest star system to us. A signal from the Normandy would be useless.
No. Thanks to the destruction of the relay's, Tali and Garrus die of starvation. The ending needs to be changed/corrected.
For Tali we fight. For Tali, we hold the line.

Well, as I said there is a possibility the QEC is still functioning on the Normandy, and if it is working they could get a message back to earth. There is nothing saying this is immpossible, so things are not so bleak. While, I agree, the endings need to be changed, there is still room for headcannon that makes sense if changes are not made.

Honestly, I am just trying to have a little hope here, please don't crush that

Modifié par TheWerdna, 19 mars 2012 - 01:40 .

[Ruthac_Arus]

forthary wrote...

Nobody screams in pain anymore in ME3 when they take health damage. I miss that.

Eh? I remember (unpleasantly) Tali screaming quite a lot versus Reaper forces in the endgame. Maybe they only yell when nailed by heavy attacks.

[Himmelstor]

Calinstel wrote...

A Blind Bandit wrote...
The ships in Mass Effect can reach a speed of up to 12 times the speed of light, if they have a mass effect drive core. The Normandy was in the middle of Mass Relay jump from Charon to Arcturus, and Arcturus is only 36 light years from Earth. So we're looking at a maximum 3 day long trip to get to them. Not bad.

Um, no offense meant but just how much fuel does your ship have?
Just flying in any of the local clusters drained the Normandy's tanks rather quickly.

Oddly, less fuel than upgraded fuel cells from Samara would suggest. Why remove those...?

[Fenrisfil]

TheWerdna wrote...

Well aparently FTL in the ME universe somehow fixes the whole time difference issue, so if Shepard knows what direction they are in, it shouldn't take too long. Honestly, I choose to believe that the QEC was still functioning on the crashed Normandy  (for the sake of my own sanity). Since they were only in FTL for a few minutes, they can;t be that far away, maybe a few weeks at most via FTL.

From I imagine my Shepard would find a way to deterimine their location, either via triangulating the possition, the Normandy crew sending out a distress signel, or even just looking at the starts to try and figure out where they are reletivly.  I know its a long shot (it counts on a few "if"s), but there is no officaly evidence saying this is immpossible and the logic is sound (making it atleast possible) so I am going to keep imagining this is what happens. I choose to believe that maybe, one more time, Shepard continues to defy the laws of averages and gets lucky, and is able to find and rescue the Normandy crew. For my own happyness and to ward off depression I am going to pretend this is what happens,

Beside, it still makes way more sense then the rest of the endings.

The good news is that if anyone in the entire ME universe could do it, it would be Shepard. So yeah, it does make way more sense.

[TheWerdna]

Calinstel wrote...

A Blind Bandit wrote...
The ships in Mass Effect can reach a speed of up to 12 times the speed of light, if they have a mass effect drive core. The Normandy was in the middle of Mass Relay jump from Charon to Arcturus, and Arcturus is only 36 light years from Earth. So we're looking at a maximum 3 day long trip to get to them. Not bad.

Um, no offense meant but just how much fuel does your ship have?
Just flying in any of the local clusters drained the Normandy's tanks rather quickly.

I would argue that is more of a gameplay mechanic then a literal fuel limmit.

Modifié par TheWerdna, 19 mars 2012 - 01:41 .

[Himmelstor]

forthary wrote...

Nobody screams in pain anymore in ME3 when they take health damage. I miss that.

*Inhales deeply*
Implications unpleasant.

[forthary]

Ruthac_Arus wrote...

forthary wrote...

Nobody screams in pain anymore in ME3 when they take health damage. I miss that.

Eh? I remember (unpleasantly) Tali screaming quite a lot versus Reaper forces in the endgame. Maybe they only yell when nailed by heavy attacks.

Really?   Hmm...now I feel sad.  I can't believe I missed that.  Then again, maybe im too far away to hear my squadmates screams.  On top of that, I can't tell when my squadmates REALLY need help.  A health bar like in ME1 or some sort of visual from ME2 would be nice instead of a blur...

[A Blind Bandit]

Calinstel wrote...

A Blind Bandit wrote...
The ships in Mass Effect can reach a speed of up to 12 times the speed of light, if they have a mass effect drive core. The Normandy was in the middle of Mass Relay jump from Charon to Arcturus, and Arcturus is only 36 light years from Earth. So we're looking at a maximum 3 day long trip to get to them. Not bad.

Um, no offense meant but just how much fuel does your ship have?
Just flying in any of the local clusters drained the Normandy's tanks rather quickly.

Yes I've thought about this a bit. I'm not sure if that's just a gameplay mechanic so that they force you to spend credits, or if that represents how fast the fuel is actually used. I'd imagine one of the Quarians ships can go for much longer without re-fueling.

[Fenrisfil]

Himmelstor wrote...

Calinstel wrote...

A Blind Bandit wrote...
The ships in Mass Effect can reach a speed of up to 12 times the speed of light, if they have a mass effect drive core. The Normandy was in the middle of Mass Relay jump from Charon to Arcturus, and Arcturus is only 36 light years from Earth. So we're looking at a maximum 3 day long trip to get to them. Not bad.

Um, no offense meant but just how much fuel does your ship have?
Just flying in any of the local clusters drained the Normandy's tanks rather quickly.

Oddly, less fuel than upgraded fuel cells from Samara would suggest. Why remove those...?

Yeah, that one baffled me too. It seems someone somewhere just felt we should spend more time refuling the Normandy once again, even though there is no reference to why we would suddenly have lost the extra capacity.

[FsDxRAGE_v2]

Himmelstor wrote...

forthary wrote...

Nobody screams in pain anymore in ME3 when they take health damage. I miss that.

*Inhales deeply*
Implications unpleasant.

I miss you, Doc.

[Himmelstor]

FsDxRAGE_v2 wrote...

Himmelstor wrote...

forthary wrote...

Nobody screams in pain anymore in ME3 when they take health damage. I miss that.

*Inhales deeply*
Implications unpleasant.

I miss you, Doc.

...not interested.

Modifié par Himmelstor, 19 mars 2012 - 01:47 .

[TrueMadayar]

Himmelstor wrote...

FsDxRAGE_v2 wrote...

Himmelstor wrote...

forthary wrote...

Nobody screams in pain anymore in ME3 when they take health damage. I miss that.

*Inhales deeply*
Implications unpleasant.

I miss you, Doc.

...not interested.

Come on, Doc, you know, if anybody finds a way back from Afterlife except being rebuilt by other scientists, it's you.

[TheWerdna]

Calinstel wrote...

TheWerdna wrote...

Calinstel wrote...

A Blind Bandit wrote...
The ships in Mass Effect can reach a speed of up to 12 times the speed of light, if they have a mass effect drive core. The Normandy was in the middle of Mass Relay jump from Charon to Arcturus, and Arcturus is only 36 light years from Earth. So we're looking at a maximum 3 day long trip to get to them. Not bad.

Um, no offense meant but just how much fuel does your ship have?
Just flying in any of the local clusters drained the Normandy's tanks rather quickly.

I would argue that is more of a gameplay mechanic then a literal fuel limmit.

Mayhap you are correct but, since the game is all we have to draw on, it seems the only logical conclusion.  Also, with the scarcity of fuel depots in ME3, refueling is an issue.

Even so, I would wager a ship made for exploration/transportation would have a much higher fuel capacity then the Normandy. With one of those ships, I think Shepard can make it.

At first I was really depressed and had lost all hope. But the more and more I think about it the more probable Shepard finding a way to reach the Normandy seems to me.

Now, am I saying we should all just headcannon this and accept the endings? Heck no, the charecters deserve better then this danmmit! But, all I am saying is that if we fail, if Bioware does not change the endings, there is still hope, no matter how small. Just as we cannot give up on our efforts to get a better ending, we cannot give up on Shepard (in our headcannons). Things are not as gloom and dark as they seem, but only if we stand up and say "No, no we are not going to accept this Bioware. We will fight for a better ending, and if that fails we will make our own! Each of us has made the story our own through playing it, and we will not let that be taken away. Hold the line"

Modifié par TheWerdna, 19 mars 2012 - 01:58 .

[TrueMadayar]

By the way. *turns on screen with this video* I find this pretty poignant. Used to be a writer. If I was criticized like that, I'd get straight back to work. I'd hack the console at the entrance, if necessary. I'd learn how to hack the console! I'd find a real life Tali to hack it for me!

[Himmelstor]

TrueMadayar wrote...

By the way. *turns on screen with this video* I find this pretty poignant. Used to be a writer. If I was criticized like that, I'd get straight back to work. I'd hack the console at the entrance, if necessary. I'd learn how to hack the console! I'd find a real life Tali to hack it for me!

Get that human a doctorate.
Then have real conversation...with Bioware.

Modifié par Himmelstor, 19 mars 2012 - 01:57 .

[Nashiktal]

Calinstel wrote...

TheWerdna wrote...

Calinstel wrote...

A Blind Bandit wrote...
The ships in Mass Effect can reach a speed of up to 12 times the speed of light, if they have a mass effect drive core. The Normandy was in the middle of Mass Relay jump from Charon to Arcturus, and Arcturus is only 36 light years from Earth. So we're looking at a maximum 3 day long trip to get to them. Not bad.

Um, no offense meant but just how much fuel does your ship have?
Just flying in any of the local clusters drained the Normandy's tanks rather quickly.

I would argue that is more of a gameplay mechanic then a literal fuel limmit.

Mayhap you are correct but, since the game is all we have to draw on, it seems the only logical conclusion.  Also, with the scarcity of fuel depots in ME3, refueling is an issue.

I could have sworn ships only have to discharge their drive cores rather than fuel up, but honestly with how many retcons, lore changes, and handwaving we might as well be arguing how many licks it takes to get to the center of a brown dwarf.

[Rhysss123]

Alright guys im new here, anyway what do you people think of the talimance and ME3 in general?

[Himmelstor]

Rhysss123 wrote...

Alright guys im new here, anyway what do you people think of the talimance and ME3 in general?

Talimance fantastic. Mass Effect 3 fantastic.

Ending one of worst things have seen in all years as scientist salarian.

Oh, and welcome!