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I stated this before, but i have a cunning plan for locating the Normandy crew

1) Establish communications with the Normandy. I would wager that it is possible for the QEC to still be functionin; which since it was connected to earth, would allow Shepard to communicate with the Normandy. Even if it is damaged, it could still possible to get a very weak signle through, which could help finding the Normandy's location

2) Using the established communication, try to pinpoint the Normandy's location. This could be done by tracing the signle of the QEC and/or having the Normandy crew send picture/observationss of the stars (thus getting a decent idea of what direction they are in) . Even if all that is acomplished is giving Shepard a basic idea of what direction they are in it will greatly increase the chances of success

3) Take a exploration vessle filled with fuel and food. As pointed out by Blind Bandit, unless the Normandy somehow got sent out further then the indended destination, the Normandy crew is likely no more then 36 light years away. Even if they were teleported somewhere else, it shouldn't takle too long to find them, mayve a week or so. If a decent idea of what direction they are in is established, I think Shepard has a prity good chance of locating them, and having enough fuel/food for the return trip.

4) Return to earth and live happily ever after...with a **** ton of other problems as a resault of the ending, but shut up, Tali and Shepard get to reunite and stay togeather.

1.  QEC is point to point, untracible, instantaneous communcations.  If the unit on the Normandy lost power for even an millisecond, the device would be useless.  :(  Physics here, not my opinion.
2.  If it is still functional, yes.  Pics of the local starfields could help pinpoint their location.  Trouble is, the way BW retconned even how the relays work, can cause issues.  If you recall, they were near instantaneous modes of transportation.  (30 seconds is no where near instantaneous).  So, the Normandy should have made it out of the relay if Arcturus was their destination but it seems as if they were traveling onward.
3.  Arcturus is also well above the elliptical plane, making a very long straight flight.  Could cause issues with discharging but greatly reducing the number of planets to search.
4.  Bolded part the only actual important thing here in this entire post.  :)


I am not saying it would be easy, just that it is not completely immpossible and it has a good chance of working. i believe there is just enough of a chance for this to work, and hey, Shepard has done what people have said were immpossible before. Everyone said it would be impossible to defeat the Reapers, how hard can finding the Normandy crew really be :D

Also for 2)  the books state that the Primary relays (those that can be used to travel between several different locations) do not work instantaniously. Its only the secondary relays (which only go from point A to point B).  No sure which the Charon Relay is though. But if it is a Primary Relay, then the Normandy getting hit mid-transet would make sense.

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TrueMadayar wrote...

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where exactly is this "emergency induction port", and what is its intended purpose?
(obviously not drinking alchohol... there would be no practical reason to put that on a quarian suit)


The port itself is the straw. Inserting it through the food slot.

Oh. I feel dumb.
I now remember shepard mentioning "that's a straw, Tali"
which she responds "emergency... induction... port"
haha I love her

#19628
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Himmelstor wrote...

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Hm. Try rum, mix up a little.


From experience, mixing ain't the best thing to do to avoid a hangover. However, my stuff is good quality, so that makes up for a bit. *opens the bottle* Keep it close, I'd have one later, I guess.

Am already dead! What's worse that could happen?


Yeah, you were lucky, you weren't around to experience that ending. Still, would've loved having your expertise around with human-quarian-physicality...

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TrueMadayar wrote...

Himmelstor wrote...

TrueMadayar wrote...

Himmelstor wrote...

Hm. Try rum, mix up a little.


From experience, mixing ain't the best thing to do to avoid a hangover. However, my stuff is good quality, so that makes up for a bit. *opens the bottle* Keep it close, I'd have one later, I guess.

Am already dead! What's worse that could happen?


Yeah, you were lucky, you weren't around to experience that ending. Still, would've loved having your expertise around with human-quarian-physicality...

...didn't open message left next to personal computer?
Left everything needed to now for healthy human-quarian relations there..
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I want to make sense of the end. well that cant happen so make it pure russian vodka!!!


Good choice. And the ending makes sense in my mind, where I've rewritten it myself and with the help of several suggestions from the thread where they suggest better endings...

I suppose i should probably think about rather than constantly complaining about it.Anyway as long as Tali lives then it wont be the worst thing ever.  However what happened in football this weekend has my mind in other places.

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Rhysss123 wrote...

I suppose i should probably think about rather than constantly complaining about it.Anyway as long as Tali lives then it wont be the worst thing ever.  However what happened in football this weekend has my mind in other places.

Football? Referring to which human sport, exactly? And why?

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Unschuld wrote...

 This deserves reposting:


I laughed SO HARD at the "I don't wanna be skinny...I wanna be fat and happy." while he tumbles down the stairs. :P

Modifié par Ryuji2, 19 mars 2012 - 02:55 .


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I am not saying it would be easy, just that it is not completely immpossible and it has a good chance of working. i believe there is just enough of a chance for this to work, and hey, Shepard has done what people have said were immpossible before. Everyone said it would be impossible to defeat the Reapers, how hard can finding the Normandy crew really be :D

Also for 2)  the books state that the Primary relays (those that can be used to travel between several different locations) do not work instantaniously. Its only the secondary relays (which only go from point A to point B).  No sure which the Charon Relay is though. But if it is a Primary Relay, then the Normandy getting hit mid-transet would make sense.

The Charon relay is a secondary one.  The Arcturus Relay is a primary.  :(

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Rhysss123 wrote...

TrueMadayar wrote...

Rhysss123 wrote...


I want to make sense of the end. well that cant happen so make it pure russian vodka!!!


Good choice. And the ending makes sense in my mind, where I've rewritten it myself and with the help of several suggestions from the thread where they suggest better endings...

I suppose i should probably think about rather than constantly complaining about it.Anyway as long as Tali lives then it wont be the worst thing ever.  However what happened in football this weekend has my mind in other places.


I am going to keep grasping at my headcannon untill Bioware fixes the ending.

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Calinstel wrote...

TheWerdna wrote...

I am not saying it would be easy, just that it is not completely immpossible and it has a good chance of working. i believe there is just enough of a chance for this to work, and hey, Shepard has done what people have said were immpossible before. Everyone said it would be impossible to defeat the Reapers, how hard can finding the Normandy crew really be :D

Also for 2)  the books state that the Primary relays (those that can be used to travel between several different locations) do not work instantaniously. Its only the secondary relays (which only go from point A to point B).  No sure which the Charon Relay is though. But if it is a Primary Relay, then the Normandy getting hit mid-transet would make sense.

The Charon relay is a secondary one.  The Arcturus Relay is a primary.  :(


yay, another plothole! Anyhow, i am going to ignore the stupid plothole, not going to let that ruin my headcannon.

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Himmelstor wrote...

Rhysss123 wrote...

I suppose i should probably think about rather than constantly complaining about it.Anyway as long as Tali lives then it wont be the worst thing ever.  However what happened in football this weekend has my mind in other places.

Football? Referring to which human sport, exactly? And why?

English version a player had a cardiac arrest in the middle of a game and just collapsed. Hes still in critical condition and its not certain he will live. sorry for being off topic but as a football fan it has worried me.

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TheWerdna wrote...

Rhysss123 wrote...

TrueMadayar wrote...

Rhysss123 wrote...


I want to make sense of the end. well that cant happen so make it pure russian vodka!!!


Good choice. And the ending makes sense in my mind, where I've rewritten it myself and with the help of several suggestions from the thread where they suggest better endings...

I suppose i should probably think about rather than constantly complaining about it.Anyway as long as Tali lives then it wont be the worst thing ever.  However what happened in football this weekend has my mind in other places.


I am going to keep grasping at my headcannon untill Bioware fixes the ending.

Hopefully they will. I mean a fixed ending DLC would make EA lots of money and EA worships their profit margains so...

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English version a player had a cardiac arrest in the middle of a game and just collapsed. Hes still in critical condition and its not certain he will live. sorry for being off topic but as a football fan it has worried me.


Yeah, saw your statement in your signature. Not that I don't feel for the man, but several players have died on the field already, several others will still, since it's a multimillion bucks sport with drugs still being around, and some heart weaknesses and diseases can always be an issue in high level sports. He still might pull through, and most of these guys are fighters, anyway, thus maximizing their chances of survival. Here's to hope. Enough off-topic from me.

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...didn't open message left next to personal computer?
Left everything needed to now for healthy human-quarian relations there..
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Would love to be able to check but it's somewhere on the Normandy, and I'm green light. *empties glass* Where's that rum punch...

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TrueMadayar wrote...

Himmelstor wrote...

...didn't open message left next to personal computer?
Left everything needed to now for healthy human-quarian relations there..
Posted ImagePosted Image


Would love to be able to check but it's somewhere on the Normandy, and I'm green light. *empties glass* Where's that rum punch...

Forced evolution...stand against that.
...like giving nuclear weapons to cavemen...
*drinks some rum*

#19641
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TrueMadayar wrote...

Himmelstor wrote...

...didn't open message left next to personal computer?
Left everything needed to now for healthy human-quarian relations there..
Posted ImagePosted Image


Would love to be able to check but it's somewhere on the Normandy, and I'm green light. *empties glass* Where's that rum punch...


i will check the computer after I get done finding the Normandy and rescuing the entire crew.

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TrueMadayar wrote...

Rhysss123 wrote...

English version a player had a cardiac arrest in the middle of a game and just collapsed. Hes still in critical condition and its not certain he will live. sorry for being off topic but as a football fan it has worried me.


Yeah, saw your statement in your signature. Not that I don't feel for the man, but several players have died on the field already, several others will still, since it's a multimillion bucks sport with drugs still being around, and some heart weaknesses and diseases can always be an issue in high level sports. He still might pull through, and most of these guys are fighters, anyway, thus maximizing their chances of survival. Here's to hope. Enough off-topic from me.

Yeah sorry anyway where do you think the normandy is and do you think the crew will be able to survive on the unknown planet

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where do you think the normandy is and do you think the crew will be able to survive on the unknown planet


I'm gonna go with the indoctrination/hallucination theory basically. I'd rather believe a theory that everything past getting shot by the beam was a hallucination rather than the space magic they gave us. :wizard:

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Yeah sorry anyway where do you think the normandy is and do you think the crew will be able to survive on the unknown planet


Depends on whether planet life is based on dextro-amino acids or not.  If is dextro-amino, Garrus and Tali fine and remaining crew starve. If isn't...Tali...Posted ImagePosted Image

Given Stargazer scene occurs on same planet crashed on, likely isn't  dextro-amino.

Bioware needs to fix ending...
...implications unpleasant...
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*Drains glass* Refill!

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Ryuji2 wrote...

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where do you think the normandy is and do you think the crew will be able to survive on the unknown planet


I'm gonna go with the indoctrination/hallucination theory basically. I'd rather believe a theory that everything past getting shot by the beam was a hallucination rather than the space magic they gave us. :wizard:

Yeah saw that theory not sure whether or not to believe it but its better than what we currently have. It also means hopefully no stranded Tali and building houses on Rannoch

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there has to be food storage on board so Tali can live.
Keep in mind theyve been in space for long periods of time before.

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Bah! I say all that Shepard saw was merely a test of will between harbinger and himself. The beam you see upon trying to beam aboard the citidel is MUCH bigger than it appears to be. And it makes sense given that the citidel is a huge space station. I say in reality, the first wave(Shepard + squadmates, of which I braught Garrus and Tali) made it through, and its up to the others to pull through. I just hope they get here in time, because the three of us are probably going to make a last stand on the citidel, and if Tali goes down, ill go down with her at the same time. Just try it, reapers!

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Himmelstor wrote...

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Yeah sorry anyway where do you think the normandy is and do you think the crew will be able to survive on the unknown planet


Depends on whether planet life is based on dextro-amino acids or not.  If is dextro-amino, Garrus and Tali fine and remaining crew starve. If isn't...Tali...Posted ImagePosted Image

Given Stargazer scene occurs on same planet crashed on, likely isn't  dextro-amino.

Bioware needs to fix ending...
...implications unpleasant...
Posted ImagePosted Image
*Drains glass* Refill!

Dead Tali!?! Dear god no i just hope they sort this out because i just dont want to think about it, and happy building a house with Tali on Rannoch is better for everyone. Right????

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Rhysss123 wrote...

Himmelstor wrote...

Rhysss123 wrote...

Yeah sorry anyway where do you think the normandy is and do you think the crew will be able to survive on the unknown planet


Depends on whether planet life is based on dextro-amino acids or not.  If is dextro-amino, Garrus and Tali fine and remaining crew starve. If isn't...Tali...Posted ImagePosted Image

Given Stargazer scene occurs on same planet crashed on, likely isn't  dextro-amino.

Bioware needs to fix ending...
...implications unpleasant...
Posted ImagePosted Image
*Drains glass* Refill!

Dead Tali!?! Dear god no i just hope they sort this out because i just dont want to think about it, and happy building a house with Tali on Rannoch is better for everyone. Right????

...we will...
...no we must hold the line.

Hear me Kirrahe? Have me saying it now!

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there has to be food storage on board so Tali can live.
Keep in mind theyve been in space for long periods of time before.

And any food they did have may have been destoryed by the crash so things dont really look great for Tali