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Admiral-165

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It's cool to see a new Tali thread... i was part of the original ones from right after the release of ME2... Haven't been to active since then but the ME3 endings and the Disgraceful picture of Tali in ME3 made me log in again...

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The Old Machine code given to us by Legion hint at possible alternatives to "indoctrination".  However, we have isolated the code so as to prevent the corruption that once had implanted into our systems.


Pity. They forced us into genocide and stranding an entire fleet. We should be able to in return force them into change. I seldom if ever went renegade...but I shot Udina, and I sliced Kai Leng. So, when it gets personal...

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Fenrisfil wrote...

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We deem synthesis...incomprehensible.  We were giving a new "life" when the entity known as Legion uploaded the Reaper code.  However, we still lack vital organic necessities to truly "feel" what it is like to be an organic.


I think most organics deem synthesis incomprehensible. As for what it's like, mostly just squidgy. Download yourself into a Quarians suit sometime and you'll get the idea.

We do not wish to infiltrate nor cause a disturbance with the Creators.  Doing so will disrupt the fragile balance.  Besides, Legion uploaded codes of "decency" after the unit's confrontation with Creator Zorah during the mission against the Collectors.  I believe that is the alternate code she gave to Legion.

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Admiral-165 wrote...

It's cool to see a new Tali thread... i was part of the original ones from right after the release of ME2... Haven't been to active since then but the ME3 endings and the Disgraceful picture of Tali in ME3 made me log in again...


Pull up a chair, Mad's Dungeon welcomes all Talimancers. Fancy a drink?

And so you would join the consensus about wanting Ash Sroka as Tali's face?

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Any Mass Effect movie most likely won't focus on Shepard and the main events of the Reaper conflict at all, including the squadmates.

Reason? By doing so Bioware would establish canon version of the events and thus discarded any kind of decision players made that wouldn't match with the movie.
Because of that, Shepard can't be shown in the movie nor can they mention any information about him/her that indicates his/her gender.
Any kind of plot would have to exclude events where Shepard and his squad were present.
Romancable characters can't in any way mention their specific relationship with Shepard.
The movie would have to be set either before ME games or deal with side characters we can't influence in the game to certain degree, like the novels.

Well, of course Bioware CAN do that, but that would make a lot of fans unhappy and I imagine that's the last thing they want after ME3 endings.


Well, according to the legendary films blog, the planned movie will be based around the story of ME1, which, as we all know, is the story of Shepard and his squad.
http://www.legendary...tions-answered/

It is really unfortunate though. A story of this kind would almost certainly require a romance subplot to ground the high-flying futuristic space-opera that a large part of the audience may have never been introduced to. And that subplot is almost certainly not going to involve Tali. The studio big wigs will see her as too niche, and too hard for an uninformed audience to relate too. It'd most likely be Ash (the all-american, soldier girl-next-door) or maybe Liara (the super-close-to-human blue alien chick)

which essentially means this will be my reaction in the theater:

:lol: Yay, Shepard kicks ass!
:blink: Wait, what are you doing with Ahsley?
:o Hey! Knock it off! What are you doin!?!
:crying: I'm so sorry, Tali .........

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Okay, new round of drinks on the house - strawberry mead. Who wants one?

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TrueMadayar wrote...

GooseofSteel wrote...

The Old Machine code given to us by Legion hint at possible alternatives to "indoctrination".  However, we have isolated the code so as to prevent the corruption that once had implanted into our systems.


Pity. They forced us into genocide and stranding an entire fleet. We should be able to in return force them into change. I seldom if ever went renegade...but I shot Udina, and I sliced Kai Leng. So, when it gets personal...

We deem it necessary to alter the perception of the true Creators.  However, we don't possess enough what organics call an "incentive" to attack said Creators.  Still, we will assist.

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Yeah, chose synthesis, as well...only way not to destroy or enslave the geth that I liberated and that helped Tali's people. I feel deeply for both the Quarians and the Geth. Never wanted to fight smart machines, especially since Cerberus's soldiers had such a nice animation when my mag hit their heads whilst I was cloaked...

You can be around the Quarians that were left on the homeworld. Also, can't Geth use the knowledge of the old machines to build new relays? There were geth on the fleet at Earth. If Earth-Geth and Rannock-Geth built matching Mass Relays? We would all pitch in!

I deem synthesis as the most non-sense one. You can't create synthetic-organic DNA because synthetics don't even have one to begin with.
And Control ending doesn't enslave the Geth. As Destroy ending kills all synthetics (And pretty much all technology) Control ending "enslaves" only the Reapers.

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When Tali was sitting down with Shepard after Shepard lased and blew that Reaper destroyer, I was reminded of this picture.

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Oh, and I'll get a Long Island ice tea, Mad.

What do you think is Tali's favorite drink?

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GooseofSteel wrote...

TrueMadayar wrote...

GooseofSteel wrote...

Geth cannot participate in drinking ritual. We do not comprehend.


Hmmm...drinking is poisonous. Poison makes synapses in brain change perception. Altered perception leads to different solutions for same problems proposed. Broadening the varieties of propositions, making it possible to find a better solution for a problem, one that had not been considered before. Also increases ability to interact with others due to reduction of social barriers. We are born individual, we never knew the consensus. It's easier to come to a consensus when drunk.

Sadly don't know what I could serve a Geth except access to the Karaoke bar...

We require a copy of Mordin Souls to participate in dancing ritual that flails appendages.  We can also sing Rick Astley if desired.


The Doc's got soul, man.

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Well, according to the legendary films blog, the planned movie will be based around the story of ME1, which, as we all know, is the story of Shepard and his squad.
http://www.legendary...tions-answered/

It is really unfortunate though. A story of this kind would almost certainly require a romance subplot to ground the high-flying futuristic space-opera that a large part of the audience may have never been introduced to. And that subplot is almost certainly not going to involve Tali. The studio big wigs will see her as too niche, and too hard for an uninformed audience to relate too. It'd most likely be Ash (the all-american, soldier girl-next-door) or maybe Liara (the super-close-to-human blue alien chick)

which essentially means this will be my reaction in the theater:

:lol: Yay, Shepard kicks ass!
:blink: Wait, what are you doing with Ahsley?
:o Hey! Knock it off! What are you doin!?!
:crying: I'm so sorry, Tali .........

Really, Bioware/EA, you agreed with this? :huh:
Apparently someone wants Bioware buried under a mountain of enraged fans really badly.
And since it's ME1, there can't be any Tali romance unless Legendary decides to completely break the canon, I'm sorry, Knight. :?

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[quote]TrueMadayar wrote...

[quote]Cheese of Borg wrote...


[/quote] All of the normandy aliance crew stays at earth, garrus desides to sk by sheps side as allways. Most of the fic will be them waking up periodicly... its a long timeto be out of touch with the galexy.[/quote]

Looking at your spelling, I wonder if I should hold service to you for a while...

Can't see Liara staying on earth. She'd probably go with, and try to find a way to Thessia from there. Garrus is a no-brainer, he'll go with Shepard and Tali anytime. The gang wouldn't be complete without them. Joker would probably volunteer for the helm, together with EDI.

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Swordfish56 wrote...



When Tali was sitting down with Shepard after Shepard lased and blew that Reaper destroyer, I was reminded of this picture.

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Oh, and I'll get a Long Island ice tea, Mad.

What do you think is Tali's favorite drink?


Nice picture.  Not sure what the book is that Tali has though...

Well, im not sure what her favorite drink is...but I can tell you it's not turian or krogan ale.  Ha, Krogan ale...id love to see tali try some of that...throw up all in her mask...

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Formis_Sage wrote...

TrueMadayar wrote...
Yeah, chose synthesis, as well...only way not to destroy or enslave the geth that I liberated and that helped Tali's people. I feel deeply for both the Quarians and the Geth. Never wanted to fight smart machines, especially since Cerberus's soldiers had such a nice animation when my mag hit their heads whilst I was cloaked...

You can be around the Quarians that were left on the homeworld. Also, can't Geth use the knowledge of the old machines to build new relays? There were geth on the fleet at Earth. If Earth-Geth and Rannock-Geth built matching Mass Relays? We would all pitch in!

I deem synthesis as the most non-sense one. You can't create synthetic-organic DNA because synthetics don't even have one to begin with.
And Control ending doesn't enslave the Geth. As Destroy ending kills all synthetics (And pretty much all technology) Control ending "enslaves" only the Reapers.

What you organics call "DNA" we simply call our central code.  We, as nearly full evolved AIs, deem it possible for code to be rewritten to one that has the true feelings of an organic and the capabilities of synthetics.  Shepard-Commander, with his hybrid infrastructure and his ultimate sacrifice, made it possible for every being to possess his abilities.

In the end...we all became Shepard-Commander.  And we, as geth, embrace it.

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Swordfish56 wrote...



When Tali was sitting down with Shepard after Shepard lased and blew that Reaper destroyer, I was reminded of this picture.

Posted Image

Oh, and I'll get a Long Island ice tea, Mad.

What do you think is Tali's favorite drink?


Well, since she just started with Turian Brandy, I guess a straight scotch on the rocks would be to her liking. However, on Rannock she DID consider Sex on the Beach.

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forthary wrote...
Nice picture.  Not sure what the book is that Tali has though...


:lol:  It's The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy!

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Although geth cannot participate in the drinking ritual, we have collected past "beverages" that our Creators from 290 year previous had. We conclude that fermenting process has created incomprehensible results.

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GooseofSteel wrote...

What you organics call "DNA" we simply call our central code.  We, as nearly full evolved AIs, deem it possible for code to be rewritten to one that has the true feelings of an organic and the capabilities of synthetics.  Shepard-Commander, with his hybrid infrastructure and his ultimte sacrifice, made it possible for every being to possess his abilities.

In the end...we all became Shepard-Commander.  And we, as geth, embrace it.


Slavery of a sentient being still is an unacceptable ending. The green ending sure as hell was the most likely one not to be too stained. Still...it's stained. Stained by a genocidal AI surviving. Stained by what the Doc called forced uplifting. Stained by the logical plothole of Tali being on a fleeing Normandy.

I will still hold the line. Forever, if need be. A house on Rannock is awaiting Tali. Knowing the Geth, they already started on it. On the same place where she sat foot on the planet for the first time!

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I believe she is reading the Hitchiker's Guide to the Galaxy. I don't see her using an emergency induction port with the drink though.

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Litany of Fury wrote...

forthary wrote...
Nice picture.  Not sure what the book is that Tali has though...


:lol:  It's The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy!


Reapers - "mostly harmless".

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Litany of Fury wrote...

forthary wrote...
Nice picture.  Not sure what the book is that Tali has though...


:lol:  It's The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy!


Oh, well...never saw the movie, so it makes sense why I did not identify the book. 

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So, one Long Island Ice Tea for Forthary. I'll drink some strawberry mead for the moment.

Anybody else anything?

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TrueMadayar wrote...

GooseofSteel wrote...

What you organics call "DNA" we simply call our central code.  We, as nearly full evolved AIs, deem it possible for code to be rewritten to one that has the true feelings of an organic and the capabilities of synthetics.  Shepard-Commander, with his hybrid infrastructure and his ultimte sacrifice, made it possible for every being to possess his abilities.

In the end...we all became Shepard-Commander.  And we, as geth, embrace it.


Slavery of a sentient being still is an unacceptable ending. The green ending sure as hell was the most likely one not to be too stained. Still...it's stained. Stained by a genocidal AI surviving. Stained by what the Doc called forced uplifting. Stained by the logical plothole of Tali being on a fleeing Normandy.

I will still hold the line. Forever, if need be. A house on Rannock is awaiting Tali. Knowing the Geth, they already started on it. On the same place where she sat foot on the planet for the first time!

We admire your "hold the line concept".  Geth will assist in anyway possible, as we deem your goal vital to the universe...

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Really, Bioware/EA, you agreed with this? :huh:
Apparently someone wants Bioware buried under a mountain of enraged fans really badly.
And since it's ME1, there can't be any Tali romance unless Legendary decides to completely break the canon, I'm sorry, Knight. :?

I know, but this knight can always dream:wub:

If they were to make one about ME2 after, it likely still wouldn't be Tali. In a game, switching LI's between games is fine (and in my case, was a delight), but in film, I think it'd be seen as a major betrayal.

................ unless maybe Shep was with Ash in the first one, and they follow the story of ME2 really closely, and Ash gets all suspicious and dismissive ......... maybe then he could move on to Tali:?


Hope lives!:D

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Formis_Sage wrote...

knight5923 wrote...
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:lol: Yay, Shepard kicks ass!
:blink: Wait, what are you doing with Ahsley?
:o Hey! Knock it off! What are you doin!?!
:crying: I'm so sorry, Tali .........

Really, Bioware/EA, you agreed with this? :huh:
Apparently someone wants Bioware buried under a mountain of enraged fans really badly.
And since it's ME1, there can't be any Tali romance unless Legendary decides to completely break the canon, I'm sorry, Knight. :?


Well, it's possible they'll let ash get nuked for dramatic effect. So that way Shepard would be single going in to the sequel. Although I still think they will go with Liara. Hollywood, like Cpt. Kirk does love blue boobs.