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[FsDxRAGE_v2]

electrosphere11 wrote...

I hope they get working on that movie soon. And I sure as hell hope that Tali is the canon romance for Shep

Liara has to be.

[knight5923]

Olueq wrote...

So...... shepard will romance ashley, save wrex, kill kaiden, save the rachni, save the council..... what else? Doesnt that kind of make our decisions in ME1 redundant?

Break both mine and Tali's hearts:crying:

[Scalpels]

Himmelstor wrote...

Died. Don't know how am still around. Unusual phenomena.
Also feel no impetus to investigat.e *breathes deeply* Strange.

Saw ending. Spite what Kirrahe thinks, will Hold the Line.

Some relays are best left dormant, old friend.

[forthary]

Himmelstor wrote...


Comparable lifespans (though quarian average brought down by weakened immune systems.) Wish could remember source of information...

I think if you ask me, their life-span might be braught up if you made peace with the geth.

As for life-span of Shepard and Tali; I can't even make a rough guess.  On one hand, Shepard has been brutally injured, physically and mentally many times.  Has taken lots of abuse.  May have exceptionally shortened life-span.  On the other hand, Tali'Zorah Vas Normandy is fragile, both physically and mentally, and while she has sustained plenty of physical damage, may have long-term effects.  Who knows?  Best case senario: They die together.

[Olueq]

Oh yes, I forgot about Liara. Ya she probably will.

[Himmelstor]

Ampmaster wrote...

Himmelstor wrote...

Ampmaster wrote...

*snip*

I don't actually know Shep's age Doc so I'll take your word on it. I just know that a man ranked "Commander" in the modern US military is a career soldier who's been doing the job for in and around 15 years + 4 years of college. *shrug* obviously I can't apply the same standards to the ME universe but you use what you know.

Hmmm there's a slightly off topic subject that I should put up as a thread else where, what kind of degree does Shepherd have?

Modern US military also doesn't have 25 year old Gunnery Sergeants, yet Ashley Williams...

Shepard is 31 as of Mass Effect two.

That always bugged me as a Marine, wtf is a Gunnery Chief? Pick one rank system and go with it darn it! lol however you are incorrect. Assuming Ashley Williams enlisted immediately at the age of 17 she could concievably hit the rank of E-7 (Gunnery Sergeant) in that time frame. I've met two and heard of several more 9 year Gunnys and 7-8 year Staff Sergeants. They have to hit every meritorious promotion they can and generally be perfect Marines but it has happened. If it can happen in the Corps which is notoriously slow to promote I'm sure it can and does happen in our sister branches as well.

Will defer to human military expert.
Wouldn't know, scientific arm of STG. Hearsay, shouldn't have used.

[Ampmaster]

@Scapels, holy hera that prop guy you linked is AWESOME! I wish I had a fifth of his skillz so I could make my own prop armor, hmmm... a Quarian Fleet Marine cosplay would be cool.... brb knocking over bank

[lomifeh]

Himmelstor wrote...

Ampmaster wrote...

*snip*

I don't actually know Shep's age Doc so I'll take your word on it. I just know that a man ranked "Commander" in the modern US military is a career soldier who's been doing the job for in and around 15 years + 4 years of college. *shrug* obviously I can't apply the same standards to the ME universe but you use what you know.

Hmmm there's a slightly off topic subject that I should put up as a thread else where, what kind of degree does Shepherd have?

Modern US military also doesn't have 25 year old Gunnery Sergeants, yet Ashley Williams...

Shepard is 31 as of Mass Effect two.

That with the two years dead?  Also probably helps that Shep is considered exceptional as well by that point.  In my case a war hero.   Looking at modern human society.  Older men with younger women is fairly common anyway.

[Scalpels]

Himmelstor wrote...

...never really liked human designation "Common Era." Nothing really seperates from "Before Common Era" except supposed birth date of Messiah-figure.
Change date system or use previous terminology.

Humans haven't quite accepted the Galactic Standard timeline set by the forming of the Council.

[Ampmaster]

Himmelstor wrote...

Ampmaster wrote...

Himmelstor wrote...

Ampmaster wrote...

*snip*

I don't actually know Shep's age Doc so I'll take your word on it. I just know that a man ranked "Commander" in the modern US military is a career soldier who's been doing the job for in and around 15 years + 4 years of college. *shrug* obviously I can't apply the same standards to the ME universe but you use what you know.

Hmmm there's a slightly off topic subject that I should put up as a thread else where, what kind of degree does Shepherd have?

Modern US military also doesn't have 25 year old Gunnery Sergeants, yet Ashley Williams...

Shepard is 31 as of Mass Effect two.

That always bugged me as a Marine, wtf is a Gunnery Chief? Pick one rank system and go with it darn it! lol however you are incorrect. Assuming Ashley Williams enlisted immediately at the age of 17 she could concievably hit the rank of E-7 (Gunnery Sergeant) in that time frame. I've met two and heard of several more 9 year Gunnys and 7-8 year Staff Sergeants. They have to hit every meritorious promotion they can and generally be perfect Marines but it has happened. If it can happen in the Corps which is notoriously slow to promote I'm sure it can and does happen in our sister branches as well.

Will defer to human military expert.
Wouldn't know, scientific arm of STG. Hearsay, shouldn't have used.

Extremely rare occurence Doc I wouldn't expect you to.

[Himmelstor]

forthary wrote...

Himmelstor wrote...


Comparable lifespans (though quarian average brought down by weakened immune systems.) Wish could remember source of information...

I think if you ask me, their life-span might be braught up if you made peace with the geth.

As for life-span of Shepard and Tali; I can't even make a rough guess.  On one hand, Shepard has been brutally injured, physically and mentally many times.  Has taken lots of abuse.  May have exceptionally shortened life-span.  On the other hand, Tali'Zorah Vas Normandy is fragile, both physically and mentally, and while she has sustained plenty of physical damage, may have long-term effects.  Who knows?  Best case senario: They die together.

Tali'Zorah has mental damage? No. And fragility is stereotype hated by most quarians.

[Mr. Big Pimpin]

Olueq wrote...

Oh yes, I forgot about Liara. Ya she probably will.

Not as good as Tali, but definitely better than Ashley.

[Himmelstor]

Scalpels wrote...

Himmelstor wrote...

Died. Don't know how am still around. Unusual phenomena.
Also feel no impetus to investigate. *breathes deeply* Strange.

Saw ending. Spite what Kirrahe thinks, will Hold the Line.

Some relays are best left dormant, old friend.

Do not get what are referring to.

[Scalpels]

Ampmaster wrote...

@Scapels, holy hera that prop guy you linked is AWESOME! I wish I had a fifth of his skillz so I could make my own prop armor, hmmm... a Quarian Fleet Marine cosplay would be cool.... brb knocking over bank

I had actually started doing a project much like his. Wife wanted to Cosplay Tali while my oldest daughter would play Raela and my youngest would play an Asari. Sadly, we ran out of budget, but I believe I solved the gap problem with the mask.

[Ryuji2]

forthary wrote...

As for life-span of Shepard and Tali; I can't even make a rough guess.  On one hand, Shepard has been brutally injured, physically and mentally many times.  Has taken lots of abuse.  May have exceptionally shortened life-span.  On the other hand, Tali'Zorah Vas Normandy is fragile, both physically and mentally, and while she has sustained plenty of physical damage, may have long-term effects.  Who knows?  Best case senario: They die together.

Idunno about that. Grunt, a krogan who is considered to be exceptionally tough, mentions quarians being tougher or more durable than turians, humans, asari and salarians if I recall correctly.

[Ampmaster]

Himmelstor wrote...

forthary wrote...

Himmelstor wrote...


Comparable lifespans (though quarian average brought down by weakened immune systems.) Wish could remember source of information...

I think if you ask me, their life-span might be braught up if you made peace with the geth.

As for life-span of Shepard and Tali; I can't even make a rough guess.  On one hand, Shepard has been brutally injured, physically and mentally many times.  Has taken lots of abuse.  May have exceptionally shortened life-span.  On the other hand, Tali'Zorah Vas Normandy is fragile, both physically and mentally, and while she has sustained plenty of physical damage, may have long-term effects.  Who knows?  Best case senario: They die together.

Tali'Zorah has mental damage? No. And fragility is stereotype hated by most quarians.

After seeing the things everyone's (on the Normandy "combat" crew, IE you and your party) have seen over the course of the three games, not counting the deaths of Tali's own units when she's not a hardened soldier or Marine like say Garrus, yeah all of that adds up to a fair amount of psychological trauma. I don't think that would really effect life span however...

[Himmelstor]

Ampmaster wrote...

Himmelstor wrote...

*snip*

Will defer to human military expert.
Wouldn't know, scientific arm of STG. Hearsay, shouldn't have used.

Extremely rare occurence Doc I wouldn't expect you to.

That said, Commander Shepard exceptional human soldier. Promotion through accomplishment.
Wait, that's Turian culture.

[electrosphere11]

FsDxRAGE_v2 wrote...

electrosphere11 wrote...

I hope they get working on that movie soon. And I sure as hell hope that Tali is the canon romance for Shep

Liara has to be.

We can always hope otherwise.

[Scalpels]

Himmelstor wrote...

Scalpels wrote...

Himmelstor wrote...

Died. Don't know how am still around. Unusual phenomena.
Also feel no impetus to investigate. *breathes deeply* Strange.

Saw ending. Spite what Kirrahe thinks, will Hold the Line.

Some relays are best left dormant, old friend.

Do not get what are referring to.

Sorry. It was a metaphor in reference to your impetus to investigate. Other way to say it: "Let sleeping varren lie?"

[lomifeh]

Himmelstor wrote...

forthary wrote...

Himmelstor wrote...


Comparable lifespans (though quarian average brought down by weakened immune systems.) Wish could remember source of information...

I think if you ask me, their life-span might be braught up if you made peace with the geth.

As for life-span of Shepard and Tali; I can't even make a rough guess.  On one hand, Shepard has been brutally injured, physically and mentally many times.  Has taken lots of abuse.  May have exceptionally shortened life-span.  On the other hand, Tali'Zorah Vas Normandy is fragile, both physically and mentally, and while she has sustained plenty of physical damage, may have long-term effects.  Who knows?  Best case senario: They die together.

Tali'Zorah has mental damage? No. And fragility is stereotype hated by most quarians.

If anything they show a surprising tenacity from what i've seen of them.  They may have serious vulnerabilities but they are not a weak people.

[Himmelstor]

electrosphere11 wrote...

FsDxRAGE_v2 wrote...

electrosphere11 wrote...

I hope they get working on that movie soon. And I sure as hell hope that Tali is the canon romance for Shep

Liara has to be.

We can always hope otherwise.

Or could just skip including entirely. Prevent argument.

[Scalpels]

Himmelstor wrote...

electrosphere11 wrote...

FsDxRAGE_v2 wrote...

electrosphere11 wrote...

I hope they get working on that movie soon. And I sure as hell hope that Tali is the canon romance for Shep

Liara has to be.

We can always hope otherwise.

Or could just skip including entirely. Prevent argument.

This is most likely. As much as I would love to see Shepard and Tali as canon, Bioware and Hollywood would be wise to avoid the argument entirely.

[Himmelstor]

Scalpels wrote...

Himmelstor wrote...

Scalpels wrote...

Himmelstor wrote...

Died. Don't know how am still around. Unusual phenomena.
Also feel no impetus to investigate. *breathes deeply* Strange.

Saw ending. Spite what Kirrahe thinks, will Hold the Line.

Some relays are best left dormant, old friend.

Do not get what are referring to.

Sorry. It was a metaphor in reference to your impetus to investigate. Other way to say it: "Let sleeping varren lie?"

Ah. Very well.
...though hate metaphors, similes and other 'old sayings.' Get Doctorate! Have real conversation!

[Ampmaster]

Scalpels wrote...

Ampmaster wrote...

@Scapels, holy hera that prop guy you linked is AWESOME! I wish I had a fifth of his skillz so I could make my own prop armor, hmmm... a Quarian Fleet Marine cosplay would be cool.... brb knocking over bank

I had actually started doing a project much like his. Wife wanted to Cosplay Tali while my oldest daughter would play Raela and my youngest would play an Asari. Sadly, we ran out of budget, but I believe I solved the gap problem with the mask.

The Mask/Helmet problem seems to be the hardest part from my research, buying a set of football shoulder pads neatly solves the issue of creating the "exoskeleton" of Shephard or any one else's armors from scratch. Then it's just a matter of trimming up and painting a set of good looking shin guards, some strap on trim for boots, the rest of the chest, back and forearms.... okay so even with out the helmet it's not simple at all, the helmet for a Shep or a Tali remains the rough part, pre-purchaceable full face sealing masks (ala Tali's or the enviromasks used in the film avatar) which would make building a quarian helmet a wee dram easier just don't exist commonly on the market, and the one or two I've found have been prohibitively expensive.

[forthary]

Ampmaster wrote...

After seeing the things everyone's (on the Normandy "combat" crew, IE you and your party) have seen over the course of the three games, not counting the deaths of Tali's own units when she's not a hardened soldier or Marine like say Garrus, yeah all of that adds up to a fair amount of psychological trauma. I don't think that would really effect life span however...

The mind can have a amazing effect on the body.  It can exceed it's own limits...and do a variety of things if pressured enough.  A mind in a good state should increase the life span of one's body, while a mind in a bad state should decrease it.  Not proven, but theoretical.

Himmelstor wrote...

Tali'Zorah has mental damage? No. And fragility is stereotype hated by most quarians.

I probably didn't word it right in my sentence, but I didn't mention that tali had mental damage.  Mentally, I believe she is fine...for the moment.  However, while I understand why the quarians hate the fragile stereotype, there is at least some truth to it.  It is easy to hurt Tali'Zorah's feelings and cause serious damage; I won't even begin to list it because I would rather turn a M-3 Predator on myself than seriously consider hurting Tali, but I will say that if you do it wrong, Tali may permanently scorn you or even commit suicide.  Plus, she can't live without her suit.  She might be a bit more durable, but that is canceled out to some degree by her weakened immune system.  Fortunately, I made peace with the geth, so her immune system will recover faster than normal and she will regain her quarian toughness.

Modifié par forthary, 22 mars 2012 - 03:16 .