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[reeot]

forthary wrote...

If the worse case senerio were to happen?  Then it would be a total joke on me, especially since I got the collectors edition.  I may not even play the Mass Effect series again if that happened.  But so long as we don't faulter in delivering our message, we may just yet see a bright future. 

Read the statement of Ray Muzyka yesterday.

In my opinion he don't get the point. This is the reason why i'm pessimistic about the ending DLC.
Hopfully BioWare take the feedback thread serious. Then, all will be fine.

Hate worst case scenarios... But if you calculate with the worst it can't get worse.

EDIT: Thanks Mad!

Modifié par reeot, 23 mars 2012 - 04:01 .

[TrueMadayar]

reeot wrote...

Read the statement of Ray Muzyka yesterday.

In my opinion he don't get the point. This is the reason why i'm pessimistic about the ending DLC.
Hopfully BioWare take the feedback thread serious. Then, all will be fine.

Hate worst case scenarios... But if you calculate with the worst it can't get worse.

EDIT: Thanks Mad!

Well, It's like with Tali - I don't think they get what we're talking about. Somehow they've filled the gaps we see with their own story outcome and can't see why we're annoyed by not knowing. They know, they have probably a quite clear vision of what is going to happen afterwards and where it all came from, and they don't understand that we don't know what they're thinking. And they created Tali as the "ethnical sidekick" kind of character, what with the drone and all, and they never understood why we love her more than their blue poster child - popular, but not as popular - or the hardcore marine gal that really fell through with the fans. And I believe they're...somewhat angry at us trying to change their story, always trying to from day one. Also, I'm quite sure that is an open ending. And that's breaking a promise, the wrap-up didn't happen. Also, I believe they overlooked that being part of a genocide is never art nor giving you a good feeling. Nobody I know or heard of had a good feeling with the ending - it was at best average, and that alone should be too low for them self-declared artists. And if you make such likeable characters and killed the main char in game 2 already - killing it again, denying a future with these likeable characters, that will always be a petty story move. Especially since games are for many a means to ignore reality - the reality that Tali is not really living next door in our spaceship, or that we cannot simply trade with the Quarian fleet to find somebody like her in the process. We want to be heroes, as she said: Saving the damsel in distress. Being dashing, taking her to the stars. DESTROYING the stars, denying her the homeworld she always wanted in the process, after giving her ONE SINGLE ROCK of it to keep while she starves on some remote jungle planet without us - that is not how we want to feel. Everybody feels like we have failed - and we haven't done anything wrong, they did make us feel that way. And we dislike that. Somehow. Strange, huh?

*mixes himself a white russian*

[FsDxRAGE_v2]

nitefyre410 wrote...

FsDxRAGE_v2 wrote...

nitefyre410 wrote...

 The one thing that my Shepard and  Tali are going to do is get out Galactic Politics... the Reaper war is enough for them. They are going start living for themselves and instead of fighting for the future they going to start building.    

My endings  for them plays to this Marching On by One Republic    


*epic snip*
Thats is my ending. 

Nice music.....
*can see Tali tapping her  wee little foot to this*

 

Thanks... I found the lyrics of that song rather fitting... and yeah she  would be. 

Okay, listening to this song again, we need someone to make a Mass Effect video with this song.
Where is Knight?

[reeot]

TrueMadayar wrote...

*true words*

Amen. *raises the beer mug*

There should be anything we can do about it. I feel so... helpless.

Modifié par reeot, 23 mars 2012 - 04:22 .

[electrosphere11]

Morning everyone.
Was anyone lucky enough to have Tali visit in their dreams?

[FsDxRAGE_v2]

electrosphere11 wrote...

Morning everyone.
Was anyone lucky enough to have Tali visit in their dreams?

I slept like a rock, so no dreams of Tali.
I have had my far share of amazing ones so I feel if I get another one, I am just lucky.

[darthrevaninlight]

TrueMadayar wrote...


*snip*  after giving her ONE SINGLE ROCK of it to keep while she starves on some remote jungle planet without us - that is not how we want to feel. Everybody feels like we have failed - and we haven't done anything wrong, they did make us feel that way. And we dislike that. Somehow. Strange, huh?

*mixes himself a white russian*

Yeah, I agree. *raises milk to cheers*
In my Creative Writing class, they tell us that the most important thing in a story is to make someone feel something, even if the feeling is bad. So as artists, I suppose they may view our outrage as an accomplishment, which would suck terribly.
They hopefully will realize soon that no homeworld for Tali = no business for them ;___;
And that giving their fanbase a good feeling is not so overrated and mainstream.

[nitefyre410]

TrueMadayar wrote...

reeot wrote...

Read the statement of Ray Muzyka yesterday.

In my opinion he don't get the point. This is the reason why i'm pessimistic about the ending DLC.
Hopfully BioWare take the feedback thread serious. Then, all will be fine.

Hate worst case scenarios... But if you calculate with the worst it can't get worse.

EDIT: Thanks Mad!

*Da Truf  aka The Truth* 
*mixes himself a white russian*

  

I agree - those endings don't make you feel good at all, matter of fact... I was rather numb  while watching. Numb I feel nothing..empty.  Not happy, not sad, not  bittersweet joy... that numbness becuase I was so confused as to what feel. I was looking at was presented and that fact that I just blew up  the galaxy, left  Tali on plaent with no food.  If Executive  Producer and Lead Writer  think these endings are analytical and  smart... then well he is a... I won't say the rest out of respect for the boards.  Man, If my Aunt who taught High School Lit and AP I beleve was still here and I showed  her these.. she would just shake her head. I

[reeot]

electrosphere11 wrote...

Morning everyone.
Was anyone lucky enough to have Tali visit in their dreams?

Hey there!

Since I play Mass Effect i just had 2 dreams with her...
One which i can't exactly remember and a wierd one, where she wore casual clothes over her enviromental suit.

Need a hint on how to remember my dreams more often.

Modifié par reeot, 23 mars 2012 - 04:33 .

[FsDxRAGE_v2]

By the way, did anyone have Tali's rock disappear when Shepard handed it to her?

[Runescapeguy9]

FsDxRAGE_v2 wrote...

By the way, did anyone have Tali's rock disappear when Shepard handed it to her?

Yes. Quite a mood ruiner.

[electrosphere11]

FsDxRAGE_v2 wrote...

By the way, did anyone have Tali's rock disappear when Shepard handed it to her?

Yeah, I gave her the invisible rock, too.

[electrosphere11]

reeot wrote...

electrosphere11 wrote...

Morning everyone.
Was anyone lucky enough to have Tali visit in their dreams?

Hey there!

Since I play Mass Effect i just had 2 dreams with her...
One which i can't exactly remember and a wierd one, where she wore casual clothes over her enviromental suit.

Need a hint on how to remember my dreams more often.

Learn to lucid dream, and you should have no problem

[Jaykel]

social.bioware.com/3488937/polls/29905/

the 1st pic is winning

followed by 2nd and 4th (canon)

[reeot]

Jaykel wrote...

social.bioware.com/3488937/polls/29905/

the 1st pic is winning

followed by 2nd and 4th (canon)

Thanks for the link.

2nd one looks soooo cute. Fits perfectly to her german voice.

[TrueMadayar]

reeot wrote...

Thanks for the link.

2nd one looks soooo cute. Fits perfectly to her german voice.

I KNOW why I NEVER played ANY of it in German...that's just...horrible voice acting sometimes. Especially the MAIN voices! Ugh! And Tali has such a cuuute accent in the English one, what happend to the German?

I still like 1, but could go for 9, actually. None of them are what I would deem ideal. None of them are Ash Sroka! Somebody PLEASE make one with her.

[supermaan]

Jaykel wrote...

social.bioware.com/3488937/polls/29905/

the 1st pic is winning

followed by 2nd and 4th (canon)

I took a look at the poll results & at the time of this post:
1  - 299 votes
2  - 191
3  - 39
4  - 69
5  - 25
6  - 9
7  - 23
8  - 4
9  - 37
10 - 30
11 - 5

I broke it down into more human/more alien looking as follows:

More human - pics 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 9 - 384 votes
More alien - pics 1, 6, 8, 10, 11 - 347 votes

My grouping of the pics is just my opinion of how i see them, but it's pretty darn close to even as to how the players would like to see Tali in regard to the more human/more alien choice, individual pictures aside.

[Jaykel]

reeot wrote...
Thanks for the link.

2nd one looks soooo cute. Fits perfectly to her german voice.

sure, her german voice is cute and fitting, but it's a shame she has no accent at all like ALL quarians in the german version. i don't really understand why.

[GooseofSteel]

Geckilian wrote...

Always good to have multiple staff, though two Geth units would most likely be able to run everything in the background without problems.

Troublesome girls are indeed fun, but I often find them to also be largely troublesome as it were - the quieter ones I've often found are either quiet for a reason, or only quiet in public.

Both are pleasant. After all, Tali pounces.

This unit does possess split personalities.

One resembles an organic, and one is Geth.  Around you, we simply portray ourselves as Geth.

We disguise ourselves as an organic when playing organics on the internet.

We also acknowledge that Creator Zorah shows truly how shy an organic woman can be at some point in time.

Modifié par GooseofSteel, 23 mars 2012 - 05:05 .

[FsDxRAGE_v2]

reeot wrote...

Jaykel wrote...

social.bioware.com/3488937/polls/29905/

the 1st pic is winning

followed by 2nd and 4th (canon)

Thanks for the link.

2nd one looks soooo cute. Fits perfectly to her german voice.

I lover her canon look, but Vespaz Tali (#2) holds a special place in my heart, as it should with every veteran Talimancer who survived The Golden Age of the Talithread.

Modifié par FsDxRAGE_v2, 23 mars 2012 - 05:05 .

[TrueMadayar]

nitefyre410 wrote...


I agree - those endings don't make you feel good at all, matter of fact... I was rather numb  while watching. Numb I feel nothing..empty.  Not happy, not sad, not  bittersweet joy... that numbness becuase I was so confused as to what feel. I was looking at was presented and that fact that I just blew up  the galaxy, left  Tali on plaent with no food.  If Executive  Producer and Lead Writer  think these endings are analytical and  smart... then well he is a... I won't say the rest out of respect for the boards.  Man, If my Aunt who taught High School Lit and AP I beleve was still here and I showed  her these.. she would just shake her head. I

Germans don't get taught literature. They get taught genocide, though. How to avoid it, especially. And why. German kids get a lot of horrific pictures and videos to see. Some numb from it. Others react oversensitive to violence afterwards, and genocide especially. Which is the goal, I guess.

I am part of the latter. Wouldn't mind using methods to get to a goal worth it. Would always feel bad and remember every one I have to kill to get there. Luckily Germany mostly decides that they don't wield their arms...themselves. We export like crazy. Must work on that.

Ending...wasn't German. And as a German Tali lover, yes, I do have a high tolerance towards eastern europeans beside the Mafia.

[TrueMadayar]

Jaykel wrote...


sure, her german voice is cute and fitting, but it's a shame she has no accent at all like ALL quarians in the german version. i don't really understand why.

Not that it would be hard to find such an accent around our parts. We're so close to Eastern Europe. We have so many people speaking accents in this country. At least she's not speaking Suabe, or Bavarian.

[HellBovine]

I just don't understand people hating on the "canon" look so much. Remember all those times everyone said they would be happy with Tali no matter what she turned out to look like?

Turns out they don't think she looks alien enough and complain about it CONSTANTLY.

[GooseofSteel]

This unit is now entering self-operate mode. We have left enough intelligence to help with moving things in bar and provide karaoke. However, this unit will be able to communicate effectively with organics.

Don't worry, we have the galaxy's entire list of songs in our programming...this unit will respond to simple commands if desired.

Oh, and we admire the addition of new Tali photographs and pictures.

Modifié par GooseofSteel, 23 mars 2012 - 05:13 .

[TrueMadayar]

GooseofSteel wrote...

This unit does possess split personalities.

One resembles an organic, and one is Geth.  Around you, we simply portray ourselves as Geth.

We disguise ourselves as an organic when playing organics on the internet.

We also acknowledge that Creator Zorah shows truly how shy an organic woman can be at some point in time.

Creator Zorah however is also a frisky, straight-forward girl that points her shotgun at anything that she wants to go away, quickly. She's just inexperienced in interspecies relationships. At the end of ME3, she has developed into a true steady girlfriend.

And hi, Multus.

It was the ending of Men at Work and it would've been a better end music for Mass Effect 3 with Tali on the beach!