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[skwisgaarthegod]

Comradejim wrote...

Hey kinda of a lurker here, I read alot of the fanficts you guys wrote, enjoyed them so I decided to try my hand, this is what I got(takes place during the charge for the beam)
http://social.biowar...02/blog/212132/

Though I am having trouble getting it to look right... Work in progress I guess.

I like it, good start. I would like to get into fanfic writing, but I think I have to get a bit more knowledgable with the ME lore before I try something and screw every thing up . Keep going with them dude :happy:

[-N7-Seeker]

I enjoy these poems and little stories about the edning. Yet, we can only hope that they make the ending better. We have hope, more than we think. But I am still pessimistic.
Back to topic: I imagined Tali and Shepard's house to be a little one. They do not need a big one to live with each other. I think the Normandy landed on Earth in the ending, becuase there is no other Earth-like planet in the Sol system, and they didn't used the Mass Relay.

[Ampmaster]

Writing's good for the soul in more ways then one, and of course the more you do it the better you get at it.

I'm considering writing more ME universe stuff based off the After the Fall fic I did, seems folk want Tali-Shep goodness so that's on the "idea board" (short story exploring Shep and Tali building their home together and Tali thinking back to her childhood, dealing with her dad, etc,) the other two are all OC related and only work in my little "A **** ending? Nonsense! *applies high explosives and blows a hole in it* onward!" branch off from ME canon. Following an OC Asari commando through the N special forces program and getting inside her head with all the trauma from the destruction of thessia, etc. Then another one following my fictional 1st Marine Division after it gets integrated with Turian and Quarian troops.

Sample dialogue from the last of those:

"Sarge I don't get it! Why the hell are we doing this boot camp crap again? We're all combat experienced soldiers!"

"I don't like it any more then you do but we need to fit in with the humans I suppose..."

"Hold it right there!"

The gathered Turian and Quarian recruits snap to attention as the Drill Instructor strides through their midst, he's not an imposing man physically, but his creased utilities, campaign hat and polished black leather boots shine with the unmistakable mark of a professional warrior, adding to his air of dominating control. He takes his cover off and sets it on a footlocker nearby.

"Cover's off, so I can talk to you like adults, school circle around me! Now!"

The unit moves to comply, instant obedience to orders is nothing new for these soldiers, unlike the recruits Drill Instructors normally have to "educate". The DI settles himself on a foot locker and looks out at his charges, about seventy Turians and five Quarians.

"There seems to be a slight misunderstanding about what's going on here, and I'm going to correct that for you."

The DI indicates the Turian sergeant who'd just been speaking a moment ago.

"You were saying that we want you to act like humans, is that correct recruit?"

"Yes sir."

"Any one else think that? Show of hands or equivalent appendages."

Most of the platoon reaches a hand up.

"Well you're all damn wrong.The last thing we want you to act like is a human. Bunch of nasty, average civilians. We're making you in to Alliance Marines, inducting you into a many centuries old tradition that dates back to when humans took to the seas on sailing ships with wood and canvas, instead of taking to the skies and stars in ships of metal. Yes we want you to assimilate our culture, because the culture of my Corps, and shortly, your Corps is what unites us from all our cultures. Over time the Corps will assimilate from you as well. That's one of the ways the Corps has always done things, adapt and overcome, learn from anything and everything. Word from the top is we're already working some Turian hand to hand techniques into our close combat curriculum. When we're done here it won't matter your home planet, your former unit, your job, your clan name, ship name or species. You'll be Marines first and foremost and wherever you are with the Corps, you'll be home."

The DI watches his slightly stunned charges, and reaches for his cover.

"You have until I get my cover on to be in a formation in front of the barracks."

[-N7-Seeker]

I like it. A little bit of philisophy, that never hurts the readers. You can create an atmoshpere, I can image the place where they are. Nice job. I am looking forward to more of this.

[nitefyre410]

Ampmaster wrote...

*snip* 

"Well you're all damn wrong.The last thing we want you to act like is a human. Bunch of nasty, average civilians. We're making you in to Alliance Marines, inducting you into a many centuries old tradition that dates back to when humans took to the seas on sailing ships with wood and canvas, instead of taking to the skies and stars in ships of metal. Yes we want you to assimilate our culture, because the culture of my Corps, and shortly, your Corps is what unites us from all our cultures. Over time the Corps will assimilate from you as well. That's one of the ways the Corps has always done things, adapt and overcome, learn from anything and everything. Word from the top is we're already working some Turian hand to hand techniques into our close combat curriculum. When we're done here it won't matter your home planet, your former unit, your job, your clan name, ship name or species. You'll be Marines first and foremost and wherever you are with the Corps, you'll be home."

The DI watches his slightly stunned charges, and reaches for his cover.

"You have until I get my cover on to be in a formation in front of the barracks."

 


I like this DI already. 

[skwisgaarthegod]

Calinstel wrote...

Bah, BW proved you don't need lore knowledge to write a story.
If there is something you want to say, some path you wish to follow, do it.  Write your story, the way you want it to go. 
Tali deserves, no, the entire story deserves, a better ending. 

Haha good point, I might look into trying to write a fanfic, see how it goes.

[Ampmaster]

Calinstel wrote...

skwisgaarthegod wrote...

Comradejim wrote...

Hey kinda of a lurker here, I read alot of the fanficts you guys wrote, enjoyed them so I decided to try my hand, this is what I got(takes place during the charge for the beam)
http://social.biowar...02/blog/212132/

Though I am having trouble getting it to look right... Work in progress I guess.

I like it, good start. I would like to get into fanfic writing, but I think I have to get a bit more knowledgable with the ME lore before I try something and screw every thing up . Keep going with them dude :happy:

Bah, BW proved you don't need lore knowledge to write a story.
If there is something you want to say, some path you wish to follow, do it.  Write your story, the way you want it to go. 
Tali deserves, no, the entire story deserves, a better ending. 

Ouch! Zinger!

Thanks for the kind words guys

-N7-Seeker wrote...

I like it. A little bit of philisophy,
that never hurts the readers. You can create an atmoshpere, I can image
the place where they are. Nice job. I am looking forward to more of
this.

The best part is that's actual Marine Corps philosophy. I got a similar speech sitting in a barracks in scenic San Diego California myself. Albeit we apply it to people and human cultures as opposed to seperate species... for now any way but it works.

Come to think of it I got two versions of that speech, the other was a little... less sophisticated... heh >.>

Modifié par Ampmaster, 24 mars 2012 - 12:13 .

[zRz Tyr]

Runescapeguy9 wrote...

reminds me of




and the third one I know exists but I cannot find for my life.

The second picture with Tali falling in love with that guy with a glass helmet and that lol guy next to him. Where are they from?

[Geckilian]

Those 2 are Daft Punk.

Back from work and glad to be here! Don't suppose anyone knows how to enable flycam in ME3?

[Geckilian]

Deventh wrote...

There is your hope about the ending:
i.imgur.com/eMYVd.jpg

Just thought this should be here also, as it's in the Liara thread.

Modifié par Geckilian, 24 mars 2012 - 12:43 .

[reeot]

Geckilian wrote...

Deventh wrote...

There is your hope about the ending:
i.imgur.com/eMYVd.jpg

Just thought this should be here also, as it's in the Liara thread.

Just what i expected... = worst case

So what should we do now? sit back and accept it?

btw... welcome back

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Modifié par reeot, 24 mars 2012 - 12:52 .

[Bfler]

reeot wrote...

Geckilian wrote...

Deventh wrote...

There is your hope about the ending:
i.imgur.com/eMYVd.jpg

Just thought this should be here also, as it's in the Liara thread.

Just what i expected... = worst case

So what should we do now? sit back and accept it?

btw... welcome back

We can't expect any satisfying changes, if they are not willing to admit their faults.

[Ampmaster]

Geckilian wrote...

Deventh wrote...

There is your hope about the ending:
i.imgur.com/eMYVd.jpg

Just thought this should be here also, as it's in the Liara thread.

I'd say that's confirmation that we've won gentlemen (and ladies if there's one or two hiding in this bastion of nerdery) we'll see what they do with it... but damn...

[Geckilian]

Unfortunately I would consider 'winning' to involve changed endings in addition to closure - none of the current endings have any real scope of happiness, or the chance to truly prevail.

If they don't change that core ending and merely elaborate it, I have low hopes for Tali and Shepard getting that beachfront property...

[Ampmaster]

We shall see

Just filling the plot holes would be nice...

[TrueMadayar]

*comes in to quickly clean the bar* They won't change the endings. They can't. They've committed themselves to the genocide, now they will stick to it.

Well, it's their money loss. Bioware has dropped from my favourite buy to my better check ever single thing they publish extensively throughout the web before sending any money that way.

Also, I don't believe there will be more Tali. We have to do it ourselves. Maybe we should, you know, move on. Vote on an alternate ending we create ourselves and just take that as given. Reject their ending, substitute our own. Savvy?

[Darman]

Geckilian wrote...

Deventh wrote...

There is your hope about the ending:
i.imgur.com/eMYVd.jpg

Just thought this should be here also, as it's in the Liara thread.

Dammit, I don't just want closure, I want a good ending. A house on Rannoch-ending or at least one that gives the opportunity for a house on Rannoch. Destroing the Relays means that its not possible. I don't wont details about the starchild-ending that makes it even harder to interpret a good ending. I want a possible epic ending as well as a possible worst case scenario like the one we've seen in the original game!

[TrueMadayar]

Darman wrote...

Dammit, I don't just want closure, I want a good ending. A house on Rannoch-ending or at least one that gives the opportunity for a house on Rannoch. Destroing the Relays means that its not possible. I don't wont details about the starchild-ending that makes it even harder to interpret a good ending. I want a possible epic ending as well as a possible worst case scenario like the one we've seen in the original game!

Yeah, we all wanted that our choices mattered. Bioware decided against it. All I say is, we can only draw our own conclusions to it. We fight for Tali and a good ending for her, but by no means do I believe that ever will be the case. Bioware would rather go broke than change this anymore. Still, that's their decision. Our decision: Tali.

[gamer_girl]

Maybe they're being vague for the sake of being vague. There's no limit to how much content they can add - simply because they aren't changing the ending doesn't mean they won't be adding new ones. I sincerely hope they don't just add a little dialogue from the stargazer at the end saying "actually, Shepard was indoctrinated just so you know." But I can honestly see it happening by how much they've said "All we're doing is adding closure." Even though this ending already has closure - just not good closure. It seems to me that they're focusing on changing the spice on a blowfish when they should be worrying about the fact that it's poisonous. Changing the type of closure by no means makes it a good ending to people like me who need to see Shepard get out safely and the mass relays not get destroyed - ergo so Shep can go all hot construction worker on us and build adorable Tali a house on her planet. They actually need to add new choices instead of simply defending and justifying having "16" very depressing and nihilistic endings that would be the same to someone that's colour blind.

Modifié par gamer_girl, 24 mars 2012 - 02:00 .

[skwisgaarthegod]

TrueMadayar wrote...

*comes in to quickly clean the bar* They won't change the endings. They can't. They've committed themselves to the genocide, now they will stick to it.

Well, it's their money loss. Bioware has dropped from my favourite buy to my better check ever single thing they publish extensively throughout the web before sending any money that way.

Also, I don't believe there will be more Tali. We have to do it ourselves. Maybe we should, you know, move on. Vote on an alternate ending we create ourselves and just take that as given. Reject their ending, substitute our own. Savvy?

We still have to hold on the remaining hope. Think like Tali, we know its unlikely that we'll get our ending (like she always knew she would likely not get Rannoch back), but we have to hope. 

[TrueMadayar]

skwisgaarthegod wrote...


We still have to hold on the remaining hope. Think like Tali, we know its unlikely that we'll get our ending (like she always knew she would likely not get Rannoch back), but we have to hope. 

They made us hope. They said 16 different ending, they said our choices would matter, they said closure. We didn't get it. So, I don't believe them anymore.

Tali lives on, for sure. And as I said, I reject their endings and substitute my own. The last five minutes hsould be cut from the game, and new endings created. But, that won't happen. So - what will? I don't really care anymore. I got Tali, I got this thread where we all suffer together from the drawback that was the "conclusion" to the greatest game series we ever played. Maybe it'll awaken us. To get to our goals in life. And to never act like they did in a comparable situation. Would be nice, right? At least having something coming from it? I know I still wanna go into writing again, and preferably for games. At least we can always say now "think of Bioware, think of Mass Effect 3", when we want to warn a manager or publisher from rushing things or not willing to wrap up a story right. And we should always hang a poster of Tali on the wall. "Think of Mass Effect 3". As a warning not to derail a story five minutes before final destination.

[Scy Lancer]

So I watched my buddy finally complete ME3 thursday night. He wasn't paying attention while talking to Liara on the citadel and wound up romancing her by accident instead of Tali. So I watched the post love scene with her and have come to the conclusion that Tali's "It's how we survive" line is probably the best romance line in ME3. Sure we don't get a 'sex' scene with her, but I'd rather have it be the more emotionally rich love story than 'We're going to die, let's do it.' like the Liara's was.
In short. Liara= We're going to die, let's do it. Tali= We're going to survive

[TrueMadayar]

Scy Lancer wrote...

So I watched my buddy finally complete ME3 thursday night. He wasn't paying attention while talking to Liara on the citadel and wound up romancing her by accident instead of Tali. So I watched the post love scene with her and have come to the conclusion that Tali's "It's how we survive" line is probably the best romance line in ME3. Sure we don't get a 'sex' scene with her, but I'd rather have it be the more emotionally rich love story than 'We're going to die, let's do it.' like the Liara's was.
In short. Liara= We're going to die, let's do it. Tali= We're going to survive

"I watched my friend accidently having sex with Liara instead of Tali" must be my new favourite quote of this thread.

And yes, we're going to survive. We did survive.


By the way, says here you have to have 100 percent Paragon or Renegade to get the "perfect" ending. I know I wasn't 100 percent Paragon, there was one very small portion of Renegade in me. Is there a 100 percent Paragon ending? And, if I may be so bold to ask, does it differ?

[Geckilian]

Indeed, if nothing else it's a cautionary tale. I'm just going to regard the ME3 ending as indoc theory even if proven otherwise, unless a happy ending comes along, as then I can easily see all the companions pooling their resources, taking over Cerberus, and having Miranda go all Lazarus project on you again.

If it took the Reapers hundreds of years to wipe out the Prothean Empire, which Javik acknowledges as weakened by their singular tactic, then think how long it would take to wipe out all the races, utterly unified.

More than enough time for a 2 year Lazarus project.

I'm still pleased Bioware made the Mass Effect universe, as with the rich detail it has and the depth of the characters in the game it's easy to disregard the official ending and make your own.

Regardless, till any announcement at Pax I'll keep holding the line.