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"Well we were kind of, you know, erm, and you were all, yeah, Wait!, what's that over there?!" - The Dealing with Disloyalty Thread


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So how do we think each of the ME romances are going to act  in ME3, to a Shepard that either reluctantly give in to due to the pressure cooker, possibly suicidal environment they found themselves in or simply just dropped their pants with happy abandon at each and every opportunity?.  

Also how do we feel the LI's from the second installment will act during any possible confrontations?.

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Personally I think a Jack/Ashley confrontation would be the most volatile, Miranda/Liara being the easiest to let one down, possibly.

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Mand0l1n

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I still dont feel that i cheated on Ash in me2 since it seemed pretty clear to me after the meeting on horizon that the relationship was over. I wonder if this was deliberate writing on biowares part to make it more tempting to venture off into new relationships and set up some interesting dynamics in me3. In the grand scheme of things i think there's too much at stake for characters to get bogged down in relationship issues but bioware do keep bringing up that word - consequences.

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"THIS SHIP IS OWNED BY A NO GOOD, DIRTY ROTTEN CHEATER!"

Love, VS.

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Mand0l1n wrote...

I still dont feel that i cheated on Ash in me2 since it seemed pretty clear to me after the meeting on horizon that the relationship was over. I wonder if this was deliberate writing on biowares part to make it more tempting to venture off into new relationships and set up some interesting dynamics in me3. In the grand scheme of things i think there's too much at stake for characters to get bogged down in relationship issues but bioware do keep bringing up that word - consequences.


Yeah that whole scene pretty much acted as a green flag for my Renegade Shepard, who went on to "romance" every possible person he could on the Normandy.

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SennenScale wrote...

"THIS SHIP IS OWNED BY A NO GOOD, DIRTY ROTTEN CHEATER!"

Love, VS.


:lol:

Thanks for the laugh, SennenScale :).

Me, personally, I object to the 'cheating' label. Too many negative connotations. My Shepard said her goodbye on Horizon, and there was that. If the VS chooses to interpret that differently/hope for something else, well...  their problem. :) Don't mind dealing with consequences either :).

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Say we cheated in ME2, but then this LI died in the suicide mission, will this still have negative effects in ME3??

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Rheia wrote...

SennenScale wrote...

"THIS SHIP IS OWNED BY A NO GOOD, DIRTY ROTTEN CHEATER!"

Love, VS.


:lol:

Thanks for the laugh, SennenScale :).

Me, personally, I object to the 'cheating' label. Too many negative connotations. My Shepard said her goodbye on Horizon, and there was that. If the VS chooses to interpret that differently/hope for something else, well...  their problem. :) Don't mind dealing with consequences either :).


I think I have missed something along the way, what/who is VS?.

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Bobad wrote...

Rheia wrote...

SennenScale wrote...

"THIS SHIP IS OWNED BY A NO GOOD, DIRTY ROTTEN CHEATER!"

Love, VS.


:lol:

Thanks for the laugh, SennenScale :).

Me, personally, I object to the 'cheating' label. Too many negative connotations. My Shepard said her goodbye on Horizon, and there was that. If the VS chooses to interpret that differently/hope for something else, well...  their problem. :) Don't mind dealing with consequences either :).


I think I have missed something along the way, what/who is VS?.


@Rheia
I'll give you that. I understand why the VS blew up at us, but considering the circumstances, it's also perfectly understandable why Shepard would consider that as good as a break up.

@ Bobad:
Virmire Survivor.

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If Shepard thinks, the relationship is over, it isn't cheating.
If Shepard thinks, the relationship is not over, he doesn't cheat.

It's that simple.

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Errol Dnamyx wrote...

If Shepard thinks, the relationship is over, it isn't cheating.
If Shepard thinks, the relationship is not over, he doesn't cheat.

It's that simple.


Is it not possible for a Shepard to think that the relationship is not over, but cheat anyway, either because they are caught up in the whole suicide mission idea or just because monogamy doesn't mean that much to a particualr Shepard?.

EDIT: Thanks SennenScale.

Modifié par Bobad, 13 juin 2011 - 07:50 .


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SennenScale wrote...

"THIS SHIP IS OWNED BY A NO GOOD, DIRTY ROTTEN CHEATER!"

Love, VS.


My sides! :lol:

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Errol Dnamyx wrote...

If Shepard thinks, the relationship is over, it isn't cheating.
If Shepard thinks, the relationship is not over, he doesn't cheat.

It's that simple.


My Shepard thought the relationship was over.  She didn't move on, though, because she was kind of sort of hoping something might happen in the future that could possibly lead to something rekindling again.

She has commitment issues.

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Kaidan: I can't believe it. You cheated on me!
Shepard: We were on a break!!!!

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Errol Dnamyx

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Bobad wrote...

Errol Dnamyx wrote...

If Shepard thinks, the relationship is over, it isn't cheating.
If Shepard thinks, the relationship is not over, he doesn't cheat.

It's that simple.


Is it not possible for a Shepard to think that the relationship is not over, but cheat anyway, either because they are caught up in the whole suicide mission idea or just because monogamy doesn't mean that much to a particualr Shepard?.

EDIT: Thanks SennenScale.

Yes, but that wouldn't be simple anymore and I really wanted to use that line at the end of my poast.

TZ: Sounds like your Shepard has commitment and abandonment issues.:wizard:

Modifié par Errol Dnamyx, 13 juin 2011 - 07:58 .


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Rheia wrote...

Me, personally, I object to the 'cheating' label. Too many negative connotations. My Shepard said her goodbye on Horizon, and there was that. If the VS chooses to interpret that differently/hope for something else, well...  their problem. :) Don't mind dealing with consequences either :).


This mirrors my own thoughts. Besides the e-mail from Kaidan afterwards implied he had or was trying to move on. Garrus has been by her side since the start, even when it meant working with a pro-human group like Cerberus and Kaidan just..chose duty over love. It's a tough call to make, especially given Shepard's resurection after two years, but he ultimately made his choice and Shepard made hers. She's going to stick with the turian who would never let her down.

I imagine the conflict will be brief and fairly cordial between the pair, Kaidan is a fairly nice guy that supports the idea that aliens are no different than humans and Garrus, while rebellious and headstrong at times, is generally pretty nice as well. I don't imagine either wants to rock the boat or make a huge fuss and hopefully once the initial confrontation is over and done with they can go forward. Maybe their relationship will turn into something close to friends that both respect Shepard and her choice. Hopefully there won't be any love-triangle business to worry about and they can get on with the business of stopping the Reapers.

Or maybe I am being too optimistic about it all.

Modifié par leonia42, 13 juin 2011 - 07:59 .


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I'm thinking on choosing Miranda over Liara, but I hope she starts acting all cute and adorable as Liara did in ME1 so I end up choosing her.

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i wont mind cheat on my ladies for men in ME3

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Elfman wrote...

Say we cheated in ME2, but then this LI died in the suicide mission, will this still have negative effects in ME3??


Yeah, good question.

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I never cheated on Liara, but for those who have cheated on their love interest, Shep needs to say three words: I DON'T KNOW.

Did you cheat on me? I don't know.
Did you flirt with Miranda behind my back? I don't know.
Did you feel up Tali? I don't know.

Its bullet proof. OR if Shep was drunk as he did it, then it never happened. Because if you can't remember, then it never happened.

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I think the confrontations should be very different depending on who the two LIs are. Here are all the possible combinations:

Liara-Miranda
Liara-Jack
Liara-Tali
Liara-Kelly
Ashley-Miranda
Ashley-Jack
Ashley-Tali
Ashley-Kelly
Kaidan-Jacob
Kaidan-Garrus
Kaidan-Thane
Kaidan-Kelly

Some of these I don't see as being too dramatic at all. I doubt Kaidan would make a big scene under any circumstances, if anything I would picture him simply bowing out quietly. And we've already seen Liara's reactions to ME2 LIs in Lair Of The Shadow Broker. If anyone has a few choice words for cheatin' Shepard, I think it's Ashley, but I don't see her airing their dirty laundry in front of the ME2 LI.

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bennyc72 wrote...

Elfman wrote...

Say we cheated in ME2, but then this LI died in the suicide mission, will this still have negative effects in ME3??


Yeah, good question.


I'd imagine it would still be a bone of contention, although the existing LI would have to have heard of said relationship from a third party unless Shepard is able to come clean, although there is no inherent competition to the original LI, the "cheating" did still occur.

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(Spoiler warning, I guess) Aren't things with Liara re: cheating on her resolved one way or the other in Shadow Broker if you play it after the SM?

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I think Ashley-Miranda will have the most vitriol, though it's also possible she might get pretty cross with Tali.

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Shepard is a man-wh0re. He deserves his comeuppance in ME3.

Good Luck and Stay Safe B)

Modifié par Slurms McKenzie, 13 juin 2011 - 08:33 .