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Thane Thread 'It's difficult. All things worth keeping are.' Spoilers will be neck-snapped.
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Posté 24 octobre 2011 - 12:39
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I believe he did, and I think his previous VA did Kolyat instead.
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Posté 24 octobre 2011 - 12:54
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I thought so. I was looking for it on youtube, but I couldn't find it.
The VA for kolyat was Thane's old VA? I didn't know that.
The VA for kolyat was Thane's old VA? I didn't know that.
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Posté 24 octobre 2011 - 01:04
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Awwwww, that is a very, very adorable one!Tasha vas Nar Rayya wrote...
I believe he did, and I think his previous VA did Kolyat instead.
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And yeah, he did have a different voice actor early through development. There is even a video of him with the old voice (E3 2009 promo). The real difference is his older voice seemed more fitting for someone younger, like Kolyat or Feron. Thane isn't exactly young and as such Keythe's voice does it leagues better for him.
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Posté 24 octobre 2011 - 01:07
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I am pretty sure it was Kolyat the old VA went on to do, as always though, Fiery will correct me if I have remembered wrong xD
And that ^ is one of my favourite pieces of fan art. Absolutely love it!
And that ^ is one of my favourite pieces of fan art. Absolutely love it!
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Posté 24 octobre 2011 - 01:12
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I should try to find the 2009 E3 promo to see if it does sound like Kolyat. If it is him then that voice wouldn't fit Thane at all.
I always liked tha fact that Thane was a older, and I agree Keythe's voice is perfect for the character.
I always liked tha fact that Thane was a older, and I agree Keythe's voice is perfect for the character.
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Posté 24 octobre 2011 - 01:16
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@Tasha that is a great piece of art work. 
Personally I like the fact that Thane is older than Shepard. He is the best. He had to have gathered the time and experience to make him the best.
It's Iike anyone who is considered an authority in their field. It's not because they know the most, no its because they have the knowledge and experience to understand what they are doing and why they are doing it. Just because someone has knowledge doesn't mean they are wise. Age, time and experience gives us wisdom.
As my uncle would say, "I am not wise, I just know stuff." I say the same thing, "I am not an expert, I just know stuff."
Personally I like the fact that Thane is older than Shepard. He is the best. He had to have gathered the time and experience to make him the best.
It's Iike anyone who is considered an authority in their field. It's not because they know the most, no its because they have the knowledge and experience to understand what they are doing and why they are doing it. Just because someone has knowledge doesn't mean they are wise. Age, time and experience gives us wisdom.
As my uncle would say, "I am not wise, I just know stuff." I say the same thing, "I am not an expert, I just know stuff."
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Posté 24 octobre 2011 - 01:28
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I unfortunately don't know if it's Kolyat's voice. Never heard about that.Tasha vas Nar Rayya wrote...
I am pretty sure it was Kolyat the old VA went on to do, as always though, Fiery will correct me if I have remembered wrong xD
And that ^ is one of my favourite pieces of fan art. Absolutely love it!
Ava, you don't have to look for it! Here is the video:
Although sound quality isn't the best so it might be a little hard to listen to it.
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Posté 24 octobre 2011 - 01:59
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I unfortunately don't know if it's Kolyat's voice. Never heard about that.
Ava, you don't have to look for it! Here is the video:
Although sound quality isn't the best so it might be a little hard to listen to it.
I'm not sure if that's kolyat's voice either. It doesn't really sound like him.
It's strange to hear Thane speak with another voice, and his way of speaking is also different. It's not a bad voice, but I don't think it was right for Thane. Although I could just feel that way because I'm just so use to Keythe's voice.
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Posté 24 octobre 2011 - 02:06
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Exactly. The voice is fine but it fails to suit a character like Thane. It's still very drell-ish; just not for Thane.
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Posté 24 octobre 2011 - 02:21
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I've actually heard that voice actor in the E3 demo was Meer. He seems to do filler on a lot of things, such as Mordin's voice for the current version of the ME3 demo.
And about Thane, I wouldn't say he was arrogant, but I do see a lot of pride in him. For example, he doesn't want to end his life, lying in bed and slowly withering away. He'd much rather go out in style. Which to me says Thane just perceives dying in bed as being weak and cowardly compared to dying while fighting. I have a friend who's peeved about that because he believes that's an insult to real people who can't do much more than that, who spend the rest of their lives bedridden and trying different medications and operations and other medical means to keep alive. I didn't really think about it that way till my friend said it.
I imagine, if there is no cure and he doesn't get his wish to die on the battlefield, there is some point that Shepard would have to force Thane to lie down because he will be too sick to fight. However he would be extremely stubborn about it. At some point he would have to let his pride get hurt and rest. It is the reality of his condition and he will have to accept he has a weakness. Thane just needs to realize it is not cowardly to be bedridden. Actually it is far more cowardly to just want to quit early instead of living out the rest of your time.
And about Thane, I wouldn't say he was arrogant, but I do see a lot of pride in him. For example, he doesn't want to end his life, lying in bed and slowly withering away. He'd much rather go out in style. Which to me says Thane just perceives dying in bed as being weak and cowardly compared to dying while fighting. I have a friend who's peeved about that because he believes that's an insult to real people who can't do much more than that, who spend the rest of their lives bedridden and trying different medications and operations and other medical means to keep alive. I didn't really think about it that way till my friend said it.
I imagine, if there is no cure and he doesn't get his wish to die on the battlefield, there is some point that Shepard would have to force Thane to lie down because he will be too sick to fight. However he would be extremely stubborn about it. At some point he would have to let his pride get hurt and rest. It is the reality of his condition and he will have to accept he has a weakness. Thane just needs to realize it is not cowardly to be bedridden. Actually it is far more cowardly to just want to quit early instead of living out the rest of your time.
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Posté 24 octobre 2011 - 03:19
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I'd heard it was Brandon Keener, but I never felt sure about that. Meer does seem most likely, since he does so much work for them. Funny that we can't figure out who it is... but we all can agree that it is WRONG unless it's Keythe.Fiery Phoenix wrote...
I unfortunately don't know if it's Kolyat's voice. Never heard about that.Tasha vas Nar Rayya wrote...
I am pretty sure it was Kolyat the old VA went on to do, as always though, Fiery will correct me if I have remembered wrong xD
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Posté 24 octobre 2011 - 03:19
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It is weird to hear Thane being voiced by someone else, maybe it was just a place holder until they got Keythe in but it does also sound like it could have been the same VA for Kolyat, Either way, I'm very very glad that the final voice was Keythe Farley's 
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Posté 24 octobre 2011 - 03:24
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Oh yay, Sarah! Good to finally see you in here!Tentura wrote...
I'd heard it was Brandon Keener, but I never felt sure about that. Meer does seem most likely, since he does so much work for them. Funny that we can't figure out who it is... but we all can agree that it is WRONG unless it's Keythe.Fiery Phoenix wrote...
I unfortunately don't know if it's Kolyat's voice. Never heard about that.Tasha vas Nar Rayya wrote...
I am pretty sure it was Kolyat the old VA went on to do, as always though, Fiery will correct me if I have remembered wrong xD
Brandon Keener doesn't sound too accurate to me--unless it's a heavily filtered version of his voice, in which case it would be possible. In any event, Keythe is where it's at!
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Posté 24 octobre 2011 - 03:51
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Having worked with terminally ill patients I have seen a few of them do exactly what you describe but their intention was different. They were in the dying process and accepted the end but they needed more time. The trying of additional medications and alternative methods bought them more time. For me, I don't think it was the medication or method that extended their life but their choice to live.Lucky Thirteen wrote...
I have a friend who's peeved about that because he believes that's an insult to real people who can't do much more than that, who spend the rest of their lives bedridden and trying different medications and operations and other medical means to keep alive. I didn't really think about it that way till my friend said it.
I always remember one person who did a horrible stint of medication therapy for just a few more months to see a baby be born. That was and is, one of the most awe inspiring event that occurred in my life. Even today, years later, I think back to that time and I get tears.
To me, that's what it means to live, to be alive until you make that choice to accept the inevitable. That was bravery and courage and facing the unknown with all that you have and embracing it. That was life at its best.
In a few ways, I see the same in Thane. It's great to see it and it makes me, the person and the professional appreciate him as a character all the more.
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Posté 24 octobre 2011 - 04:25
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This may be a little off-topic but unfortunately not many terminally ill people seem to be as lucky as Thane or the patient Mei just mentioned. It goes without question that these people's greatest wish can be so mundane your average person would think they're joking--until they realized they were on a decreasing timer. Here is a quick story from my experience for some perspective:
When I used to post on TeamXbox before I joined here, one of my friends over there had been suffering from a strange spinal disease for a few years until said disease hit its peak around late 2009. He was married and was expecting two twin daughters at the time. At that same time one day, he made a post telling us the truth about his condition and how he may not be visiting the site as often. I had had one-on-one chats with him on PM and played a couple games on Xbox LIVE with him way back in 2008. We never actually talked a lot but we knew each other pretty well as video gamers, and needless to say, a big part of the community knew and respected him. I was broken when I read his letter to us that day, to say the least.
Early last year I received a message from the TXB community informing me of his death. Suffice to say, I was devastated. I had kept following his blog over time, which was getting steadily less active, as had a lot of people. As a matter of fact, we saw it coming. We just didn't want to dwell on it that much. When I went back to the forum to see what happened after that, I found that his wish, which was to see his twin daughters before his passing, never became reality. I proceeded to send a condolences letter to his wife via the forum's admin; it was incredibly sad to see her subsequent updates on his own blog. She was completely destroyed emotionally. Not too long ago she gave birth to the babies and everyone on the forum had the honor to see the beautiful girls and congratulate their mother on them--all that remained was for Sean to be around us.
Point being: This seems to be the general rule of the situation from what little I know (correct me if I'm off!), and to this day it tears me apart whenever I think of Sean's situation. In fact, I still tear up when I visit his blog and read it (which is now basically a tribute run by his wife). Which leads me to yet another reason I appreciate Thane as a character, that is, he gives one a sign of hope and strength whilst being under nearly insurmountable circumstances. This is even more obvious if you follow his romance. It's a truly humbling and heartwarming experience that I can't help but smile upon. And while I fully understand that it can feel "insulting" to some, I imagine it would feel the polar opposite to me if I were a terminally ill man.
When I used to post on TeamXbox before I joined here, one of my friends over there had been suffering from a strange spinal disease for a few years until said disease hit its peak around late 2009. He was married and was expecting two twin daughters at the time. At that same time one day, he made a post telling us the truth about his condition and how he may not be visiting the site as often. I had had one-on-one chats with him on PM and played a couple games on Xbox LIVE with him way back in 2008. We never actually talked a lot but we knew each other pretty well as video gamers, and needless to say, a big part of the community knew and respected him. I was broken when I read his letter to us that day, to say the least.
Early last year I received a message from the TXB community informing me of his death. Suffice to say, I was devastated. I had kept following his blog over time, which was getting steadily less active, as had a lot of people. As a matter of fact, we saw it coming. We just didn't want to dwell on it that much. When I went back to the forum to see what happened after that, I found that his wish, which was to see his twin daughters before his passing, never became reality. I proceeded to send a condolences letter to his wife via the forum's admin; it was incredibly sad to see her subsequent updates on his own blog. She was completely destroyed emotionally. Not too long ago she gave birth to the babies and everyone on the forum had the honor to see the beautiful girls and congratulate their mother on them--all that remained was for Sean to be around us.
Point being: This seems to be the general rule of the situation from what little I know (correct me if I'm off!), and to this day it tears me apart whenever I think of Sean's situation. In fact, I still tear up when I visit his blog and read it (which is now basically a tribute run by his wife). Which leads me to yet another reason I appreciate Thane as a character, that is, he gives one a sign of hope and strength whilst being under nearly insurmountable circumstances. This is even more obvious if you follow his romance. It's a truly humbling and heartwarming experience that I can't help but smile upon. And while I fully understand that it can feel "insulting" to some, I imagine it would feel the polar opposite to me if I were a terminally ill man.
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Posté 24 octobre 2011 - 04:51
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In early September, a forum community I have belonged to for nine years, lost one of the original members. She lost her battle with cancer. She had been in remission for three almost four years before it came back. This time in her bones. She knew it was the end. She prepared us. I knew her and spoke to her on facebook quite often. She was amazing. One of the most caring and loving women I could ever have known. Her death struck the community hard. Having been together for so long, most of us know each other very well. Indeed, I used to visit a couple of board membes quite often.
Our board was lucky. There were a few of us in the human services field who knew grief counseling and were able to help not each other but everyone. We pulled together. It's not the first time we lost one of our own. A year after the creation of the board, a friend of mine, he died very suddenly. Every year, the day before my birthday, we come back together and we remember him, he pay tribute to who he was and who he was to us. The board is related to a pop culture icon. Having lost both of these people makes the relatiion to that pop culture icon all the more precious.
For me Thane epitomizes that journey. The realization that someone you know and care for is facing a horrible ordeal. The facing of his own mortality. Not many people will ever truly face that situation. To think you have so much time only to be told you don't.
Thanes romance with Shepard is all the more amazing because he loves her. Fearlessly, unquestionably and without concern about the future.
This is the one aspect I love the most about thane as a character. And the one I want to see play out the most.
Our board was lucky. There were a few of us in the human services field who knew grief counseling and were able to help not each other but everyone. We pulled together. It's not the first time we lost one of our own. A year after the creation of the board, a friend of mine, he died very suddenly. Every year, the day before my birthday, we come back together and we remember him, he pay tribute to who he was and who he was to us. The board is related to a pop culture icon. Having lost both of these people makes the relatiion to that pop culture icon all the more precious.
For me Thane epitomizes that journey. The realization that someone you know and care for is facing a horrible ordeal. The facing of his own mortality. Not many people will ever truly face that situation. To think you have so much time only to be told you don't.
Thanes romance with Shepard is all the more amazing because he loves her. Fearlessly, unquestionably and without concern about the future.
This is the one aspect I love the most about thane as a character. And the one I want to see play out the most.
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Posté 24 octobre 2011 - 06:41
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Okay I'm back people, more or less, but wow philosophical conversation and 100 pages. Nice.
I'm not going to share any personal stories, but this is why I can't wait to see what happens on Invictus. I think Thane's story has the potential to become more inspirational than depressing because even in the face of death he keeps fighting, and that could be what keeps him alive at the end of ME3. Being as proud as he is along with his newfound reasons for living could end up being his motivation to keep going rather than giving in, even if he ends up bedridden. Perhaps hearing what those Hanar scientists are up to may give him some hope regardless of whether or not he benefits from it.
That feeling of "don't give up" despite his circumstances. As we know Thane's not the type who gives up.
Anyway, sorry if I'm being Captain Obvious.
I'm not going to share any personal stories, but this is why I can't wait to see what happens on Invictus. I think Thane's story has the potential to become more inspirational than depressing because even in the face of death he keeps fighting, and that could be what keeps him alive at the end of ME3. Being as proud as he is along with his newfound reasons for living could end up being his motivation to keep going rather than giving in, even if he ends up bedridden. Perhaps hearing what those Hanar scientists are up to may give him some hope regardless of whether or not he benefits from it.
That feeling of "don't give up" despite his circumstances. As we know Thane's not the type who gives up.
Anyway, sorry if I'm being Captain Obvious.
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Posté 24 octobre 2011 - 06:43
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I am glad that Keythe did Thane's voice then Kolyat's VA.
I did find the 2009 E3 Promo Video for Thane.
Kolyat's VA didn't..."match" Thane as a character IMO. His voice sounded...younger. And being 39 years old and having a young voice than an..."older" voice matched .
( Hard to believe Thane is 39...) -.-
I did find the 2009 E3 Promo Video for Thane.
Kolyat's VA didn't..."match" Thane as a character IMO. His voice sounded...younger. And being 39 years old and having a young voice than an..."older" voice matched .
( Hard to believe Thane is 39...) -.-
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Posté 24 octobre 2011 - 06:46
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Not at all. You're completely right.Enmystic wrote...
Okay I'm back people, more or less, but wow philosophical conversation and 100 pages. Nice.
I'm not going to share any personal stories, but this is why I can't wait to see what happens on Invictus. I think Thane's story has the potential to become more inspirational than depressing because even in the face of death he keeps fighting, and that could be what keeps him alive at the end of ME3. Being as proud as he is along with his newfound reasons for living could end up being his motivation to keep going rather than giving in, even if he ends up bedridden. Perhaps hearing what those Hanar scientists are up to may give him some hope regardless of whether or not he benefits from it.
That feeling of "don't give up" despite his circumstances. As we know Thane's not the type who gives up.
Anyway, sorry if I'm being Captain Obvious.
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Posté 24 octobre 2011 - 06:54
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Share what you are comfortable with or not at all. It's your choice.Enmystic wrote...
I'm not going to share any personal stories...
I usually share that which I have no problem having people know. I do conceal a lot of information both for legal and personal reasons. But at the same time. I think in any discussion related to Thane, death and dying is going to come up.
Personally, I am very comfortable talking about death and dying but I also know most people are not as it an uncomfortable topic of discussion.
No worries.
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Posté 24 octobre 2011 - 06:54
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As awful as it sounds, inspiration can be born from tragedy.
And I think that this is why I really want to see Thane's story arc completed. It has such a correlation with the trials many of us see or suffer in our own lives. People are so often fighting for their lives when they are not yet ready to leave.
It means that if Thane survives, one way or another, in ME3, then it provides a lot of hope for those who are know someone else in a similar situation.
And I think that this is why I really want to see Thane's story arc completed. It has such a correlation with the trials many of us see or suffer in our own lives. People are so often fighting for their lives when they are not yet ready to leave.
It means that if Thane survives, one way or another, in ME3, then it provides a lot of hope for those who are know someone else in a similar situation.
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Posté 24 octobre 2011 - 07:24
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I had a dream last night that Thane was starting to get bad and he couldn't join Shepard. Something went wrong with the mission and he helped straighten it out, but only hurt himself in the end. If he is only a temporary squad mate and the reason is because he can't really physically help Shepard anymore, so he remains with the hanar scientist for treatment, would you guys be okay with that?
I think Bioware is doing a balancing act. They put too many characters in that they have to take care of now. I think a situation like what I had in my dream would be a good explanation to why he doesn't join. Bonus points if he sends Shepard sweet little emails throughout the rest of the game.
I think Bioware is doing a balancing act. They put too many characters in that they have to take care of now. I think a situation like what I had in my dream would be a good explanation to why he doesn't join. Bonus points if he sends Shepard sweet little emails throughout the rest of the game.
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Posté 24 octobre 2011 - 07:32
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@Tasha I agree. I have seen so much good come out of tragedy. It's just the way life is.
@Lucky Thirteen I would be okay with it so long as at the end Shepard can go to him and be there with him until the end and we get an epilogue of what happened to Shepard.
@Lucky Thirteen I would be okay with it so long as at the end Shepard can go to him and be there with him until the end and we get an epilogue of what happened to Shepard.
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Posté 24 octobre 2011 - 07:35
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Part of the time I'm fine with that, but not the entire game. How are we suppose to finish our romance if we can't even see him. I don't want to have to go back and forth to the planet just to talk to him, and end up having the same conversation over and over with nothing new to say. I have said I am not happy with just having him for one mission and not seeing him until the end while everyone else gets to be with their LI. I wouldn't be happy with that at all.
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