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[Tasha vas Nar Rayya]

I think there was one case where someone had a different view as to how Thane's fate should be handled. She liked Thane, but still wanted a glorious 'out in flames' ending for him. I think some people misinterpreted what she was saying though. You can be a fan of Thane while still thinking that his death would complete his death.

It isn't a perspective I hold myself, but it is a perspective I can understand.

[wildannie]

 @Tasha I think I might know the time you're referring to.  I think what annoyed me on that occasion (if we're thinking about the same time) was the idea that nobody should be able to save Thane because if it was possible to do so it would automatically be detrimental to the story, and saving/not saving Thane would be a non-choice to a Thane fan thereby removing the option of the glorious death for Thane that she sought.

It's not that people want Thane to die that bothers me,  I totally get that.  It's the wish achieve this at the expense other players choices that irritates me.  

[Lucky Thirteen]

The thing with it being a choice is I hope they make it a difficult choice, but an even choice. I've always felt like the VS choice was an uneven choice, because most people will go for the love interest. Then it just feels like to me something is morally wrong with sparing the love interest over the other person. Fortunaly, the other character is like no! I'm willing to die! It would be balls awful if the other person was like OMFG I WANT TO LIVE!!! If it had been something like, picking between two none-li characters I'd be more comfortable with it. Unfortunately, Wrex is the only non-LI in me1 now. So blah.

I don't want to be picking Thane over like, the hanar scientists working on the cure or a school bus of children or something.

[Cosmochyck]

Lucky Thirteen wrote...

The thing with it being a choice is I hope they make it a difficult choice, but an even choice. I've always felt like the VS choice was an uneven choice, because most people will go for the love interest. Then it just feels like to me something is morally wrong with sparing the love interest over the other person. Fortunaly, the other character is like no! I'm willing to die! It would be balls awful if the other person was like OMFG I WANT TO LIVE!!! If it had been something like, picking between two none-li characters I'd be more comfortable with it. Unfortunately, Wrex is the only non-LI in me1 now. So blah.

I don't want to be picking Thane over like, the hanar scientists working on the cure or a school bus of children or something.

I agree.  It should be a choice, but not something totally ridiculous. 

Although if it makes you feel better, on one of my ME1 PTs, I sent Kaidan to die (he was my LI).  And what struck me funny (from what I can remember) is he doesn't even look THAT upset.   I never imported any ME1 game (lost them) so I 'm curious if that even would have made any change in ME2.  Sorry, drifted off topic...

Have some Thane!
By FemmeInfernale

Modifié par Cosmochyck, 26 octobre 2011 - 09:44 .

[Lucky Thirteen]

daaawww neck kissies

I hope Thane wears a white cotton t-shirt.

[Tasha vas Nar Rayya]

wildannie wrote...

 @Tasha I think I might know the time you're referring to.  I think what annoyed me on that occasion (if we're thinking about the same time) was the idea that nobody should be able to save Thane because if it was possible to do so it would automatically be detrimental to the story, and saving/not saving Thane would be a non-choice to a Thane fan thereby removing the option of the glorious death for Thane that she sought.

It's not that people want Thane to die that bothers me,  I totally get that.  It's the wish achieve this at the expense other players choices that irritates me.  

Yeah, I believe we are referring to the same incident. I don't mind people voicing their preferences. I just think it is important to bear in mind that there are those who like Thane, but think he should die. I definately don't think it should be a compulsory fate for him. But then again, we have to bear in mind that there will be a lot of ME fans who don't want Thane surviving to be compulsory either.

Which is why it should be the result of a choice; it appeases the majority of fans. I don't quite see why it needs to be compulsory.

[wildannie]

@cosmochyck That's a really nice picture

The kind of choice that I would prefer would be perhaps giving up a bit of a tactical advantage, resource or not fully getting a faction onside rather than a straight up life or death choice. The kind of choice where there is no right answer, both being valid depending upon the Shepard.
If such a choice was done well I would probably let Thane die in one playthrough (but only one )

[wildannie]

Arguments i've read in favour of compulsory deaths don't want it to be a choice because they seem to feel that if they have to choose whether the deaths happen or not, they are being forced to make their shepard make a mistake. They want to be able to try everything they can and do everything right but still be unable to succeed all the time.

So long as who dies is not compulsory, I'm not going to be too bothered if a squadmate dies

[Tasha vas Nar Rayya]

The flaw in that argument is that if there was a compulsory death for almost any other squadmate, then I would imagine there would be an uproar. I recognise that we are aware of Thane's terminal condition, and we 'knew what we were getting ourselves into.' But that is because - as Mei Mei said on the previous page - we have hope. We want to give Thane that hope during what could be his last months.

[JECWSU]

wildannie wrote...

It's not that people want Thane to die that bothers me,  I totally get that.  It's the wish achieve this at the expense other players choices that irritates me.  

I agree with this.
It seems like some feel if they are given a choice than they won't choose to let him die. Just because a choice is there to save him doesn't menn you have to choose it. If they do allow us to a choice than everyone gets what they want. The only thing that should really matter is that both these options are written well.

[Enmystic]

Tasha vas Nar Rayya wrote...

The flaw in that argument is that if there was a compulsory death for almost any other squadmate, then I would imagine there would be an uproar. I recognise that we are aware of Thane's terminal condition, and we 'knew what we were getting ourselves into.' But that is because - as Mei Mei said on the previous page - we have hope. We want to give Thane that hope during what could be his last months.

You bring up a point I think the forum has already touched on.  Like someone else mentioned earlier in the thread, it's easy for people to put down other characters in favor of their own character, but I feel this is especially true for Thane, unfortunately.  Due to his situation some people can easily write him off in their own heads for whatever reason.  Not to put other opinions down, of course, but some intentions are more pure than others.

I really like what Mei Mei said a few pages back about "if Thane truly wants to live he's going to have to make a serious change".  I feel that is so true considering his development so far, and I hope it's something that ME3 addresses with Thane.  

[wildannie]

Tasha vas Nar Rayya wrote...

The flaw in that argument is that if there was a compulsory death for almost any other squadmate, then I would imagine there would be an uproar. I recognise that we are aware of Thane's terminal condition, and we 'knew what we were getting ourselves into.' But that is because - as Mei Mei said on the previous page - we have hope. We want to give Thane that hope during what could be his last months.

Yes, although as squadmate deaths go Thane seems to be the obvious choice because of his disease, fighting the reapers is arguably more dangerous than Keprals syndrome and we all knew what we were getting ourselves into taking on *that* fight.

If BioWare take that logic into the game then noone's safe.  I expect that this will turn out to be true but I think it will also be possible to save everyone on the squad (although maybe one of them will die on each playthrough).

@JECWSU  agreed, if written well everyone can get the ME3 they want.

Modifié par wildannie, 27 octobre 2011 - 07:03 .

[Cosmochyck]

Just because I love her work, and this page needs more yummy Thane....

By Louvette

[Tasha vas Nar Rayya]

Lydlyd is amazing!

So, I think we only touched on this early. But...

Drell as a playable species in ME3 multiplayer?? Will we be able to se female drell do you think?

[Cosmochyck]

Tasha vas Nar Rayya wrote...

Lydlyd is amazing!

So, I think we only touched on this early. But...

Drell as a playable species in ME3 multiplayer?? Will we be able to se female drell do you think?

I hope so!  And I hope I get that wicked coat (and fully customizable of course!). 

I just finished another PT and got dialogue from Thane at the Collector base that I hadn't before.  I just love the way they've written his character - so much depth! 

[Enmystic]

I would play as a female drell if given the option, but I don't know. Nothing has looked too promising as far as female aliens are concerned so far. At any rate, I'm happy to have the Drell as one of the races to choose from.

[Lucky Thirteen]

I have this feeling they really aren't going to change Thane's outfit, or any drell for that matter.

[Enmystic]

The game isn't out yet, LT. Thane's outfit might be completely different in ME3 and I wouldn't be shocked if BioWare is still using previous models as place holders.  Thane's outfit may be optional.  Personally, I wouldn't mind wearing it. :3

Modifié par Enmystic, 27 octobre 2011 - 09:41 .

[Lucky Thirteen]

It's a cultural thing. Everyone wears the same thing but different colors. Just like the turians.

[Lucky Thirteen]

yes....

a white t-shirt....

and pants....

<3<3