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Why can't I have my drell bro back instead of a goddamn useless buckethead?

Thane+Vega+BroShep= Ultimate brotime.

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JosephDucreux wrote...

Why can't I have my drell bro back instead of a goddamn useless buckethead?

Thane+Vega+BroShep= Ultimate brotime.

Don't worry, Thane will return. We will meet him in ME3 at least two times. (Plus a mission on Invictus) I really hope Bioware has other plans with Thane which doesn't include a painful lung collapse. He's a romance option, first of all, as well as probably being the most popular new character of ME2.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            

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How do you know we will see him two times?

I'm not sure that mission on Invictus really exists. No one has found any proof. It isn't in any of the magazines it was suppose to be in. I'm starting to think it was just made up.

We only know that he is in the game if he survived the suicide mission. We don't know for how long. I'm hoping it's not a cameo and then we never see him again.

Modifié par JECWSU, 27 décembre 2011 - 10:04 .


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JECWSU wrote...

How do you know we will see him two times?

I'm not sure that mission on Invictus really exists. No one has found any proof. It isn't in any of the magazines it was suppose to be in. I'm starting to think it was just made up.

We only know that he is in the game if he survived the suicide mission. We don't know for how long. I'm hoping it's not a cameo and then we never see him again.

To you what to read text dialogues?

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I've already seen some of it. There still isn't any real proof about a mission on Invictus as far as I know.

I can only hope that we don't see him for just two or three minutes and then we don't see him again. That's one of the things that worries me. Luckily we don't have to wait much longer..

Modifié par JECWSU, 27 décembre 2011 - 01:30 .


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Mac Walters said "Fans of the game, fans of Shepard, I really think they're going to get everything they're hoping for in this final installment to the trilogy", he said " We're going to be able to see a little more of Shepard's human side in this, and all the favorite characters are going to be back and people are going to be able to explore, and my opinion is we've done a really good job of wrapping up and getting a sense of closure to all those relationships but also to all of the storylines  we've opened up. We've got all of these threads we've opened, and now the idea is to weave them together into the final installment that we have. People who are fans of the characters and story are going to see a "Mass Effect" that is deeper than is has been in the past. I think the fans are going to love it".                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    After such words I do not think that we will see Thane for just three minutes.:)

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wasp777 wrote...

Mac Walters said "Fans of the game, fans of Shepard, I really think they're going to get everything they're hoping for in this final installment to the trilogy", he said " We're going to be able to see a little more of Shepard's human side in this, and all the favorite characters are going to be back and people are going to be able to explore, and my opinion is we've done a really good job of wrapping up and getting a sense of closure to all those relationships but also to all of the storylines  we've opened up. We've got all of these threads we've opened, and now the idea is to weave them together into the final installment that we have. People who are fans of the characters and story are going to see a "Mass Effect" that is deeper than is has been in the past. I think the fans are going to love it".                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    After such words I do not think that we will see Thane for just three minutes.:)


I've said it before and I'll say it again - I will RAGE on the galaxy if 3 mins is all I get!

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Even if there isn't a mission on Invictus, I have no doubt that Thane will be there for a mission.

SPOILERS!!!!!!
I mean, Jack, Samara, Mordin, Legion and Grunt are all confirmed to have their own missions for which they are present. So I imagine the same would apply for Thane.

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Cosmochyck wrote...

wasp777 wrote...

Mac Walters said "Fans of the game, fans of Shepard, I really think they're going to get everything they're hoping for in this final installment to the trilogy", he said " We're going to be able to see a little more of Shepard's human side in this, and all the favorite characters are going to be back and people are going to be able to explore, and my opinion is we've done a really good job of wrapping up and getting a sense of closure to all those relationships but also to all of the storylines  we've opened up. We've got all of these threads we've opened, and now the idea is to weave them together into the final installment that we have. People who are fans of the characters and story are going to see a "Mass Effect" that is deeper than is has been in the past. I think the fans are going to love it".                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    After such words I do not think that we will see Thane for just three minutes.:)


I've said it before and I'll say it again - I will RAGE on the galaxy if 3 mins is all I get!


You will not be the only one who is upset.


What Mac Walters said doen't exacly make me feel better. I know some relationships are going to be treated a lot better than others. I worrry that Than is going to be one of those realtionships that is treated poorly.  Even if we do have Thane for one mission I don't see how you can wrap up the relationship in one lousy mission.

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JECWSU wrote...

Cosmochyck wrote...

wasp777 wrote...

Mac Walters said "Fans of the game, fans of Shepard, I really think they're going to get everything they're hoping for in this final installment to the trilogy", he said " We're going to be able to see a little more of Shepard's human side in this, and all the favorite characters are going to be back and people are going to be able to explore, and my opinion is we've done a really good job of wrapping up and getting a sense of closure to all those relationships but also to all of the storylines  we've opened up. We've got all of these threads we've opened, and now the idea is to weave them together into the final installment that we have. People who are fans of the characters and story are going to see a "Mass Effect" that is deeper than is has been in the past. I think the fans are going to love it".                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    After such words I do not think that we will see Thane for just three minutes.:)


I've said it before and I'll say it again - I will RAGE on the galaxy if 3 mins is all I get!


You will not be the only one who is upset.


What Mac Walters said doen't exacly make me feel better. I know some relationships are going to be treated a lot better than others. I worrry that Than is going to be one of those realtionships that is treated poorly.  Even if we do have Thane for one mission I don't see how you can wrap up the relationship in one lousy mission.

Pessimistic much? ;)
I prefer the "be prepared for the worst, but hope for the best" approach.  Yeah, we might only get to see Thane for three minutes or whatever, and we might not have an option to save his life.  But so far that's only a possibility; even those of us who've read the spoilers don't know exactly what's going to happen.  Maybe the reason the devs are being so secretive about Thane is because he has an enormously huge role in ME3 that would spoil the plot like crazy if it was revealed.  All we can do is wait for March and keep our fingers crossed.  And I'm still hoping for a Thane vs. Kai Leng assassin fight.  That would be epic.

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wasp777 wrote...

Mac Walters said "Fans of the game, fans of Shepard, I really think they're going to get everything they're hoping for in this final installment to the trilogy", he said " We're going to be able to see a little more of Shepard's human side in this, and all the favorite characters are going to be back and people are going to be able to explore, and my opinion is we've done a really good job of wrapping up and getting a sense of closure to all those relationships but also to all of the storylines  we've opened up. We've got all of these threads we've opened, and now the idea is to weave them together into the final installment that we have. People who are fans of the characters and story are going to see a "Mass Effect" that is deeper than is has been in the past. I think the fans are going to love it".                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    After such words I do not think that we will see Thane for just three minutes.:)

What he said is true. :) After reading the spoilers, I can say without revealing any plot stuff that Thane's role is important, and even though it's not completely what we hoped for (full-time squadmate), the story does his character and the romance justice.

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Martin the Warrior wrote...

JECWSU wrote...

Cosmochyck wrote...

wasp777 wrote...

Mac Walters said "Fans of the game, fans of Shepard, I really think they're going to get everything they're hoping for in this final installment to the trilogy", he said " We're going to be able to see a little more of Shepard's human side in this, and all the favorite characters are going to be back and people are going to be able to explore, and my opinion is we've done a really good job of wrapping up and getting a sense of closure to all those relationships but also to all of the storylines  we've opened up. We've got all of these threads we've opened, and now the idea is to weave them together into the final installment that we have. People who are fans of the characters and story are going to see a "Mass Effect" that is deeper than is has been in the past. I think the fans are going to love it".                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    After such words I do not think that we will see Thane for just three minutes.:)


I've said it before and I'll say it again - I will RAGE on the galaxy if 3 mins is all I get!


You will not be the only one who is upset.


What Mac Walters said doen't exacly make me feel better. I know some relationships are going to be treated a lot better than others. I worrry that Than is going to be one of those realtionships that is treated poorly.  Even if we do have Thane for one mission I don't see how you can wrap up the relationship in one lousy mission.

Pessimistic much? ;)
I prefer the "be prepared for the worst, but hope for the best" approach.  Yeah, we might only get to see Thane for three minutes or whatever, and we might not have an option to save his life.  But so far that's only a possibility; even those of us who've read the spoilers don't know exactly what's going to happen.  Maybe the reason the devs are being so secretive about Thane is because he has an enormously huge role in ME3 that would spoil the plot like crazy if it was revealed.  All we can do is wait for March and keep our fingers crossed.  And I'm still hoping for a Thane vs. Kai Leng assassin fight.  That would be epic.

You could be very right on that, Martin.

If Thane does have a major role on the story, and BioWare aren't revealing little to no details about it, then it could mean that it is very important to ME3's story. We only hope for the best, as we've got two and a half months to go from today. Image IPB

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Tasha vas Nar Rayya wrote...

Even if there isn't a mission on Invictus, I have no doubt that Thane will be there for a mission.

SPOILERS!!!!!!
I mean, Jack, Samara, Mordin, Legion and Grunt are all confirmed to have their own missions for which they are present. So I imagine the same would apply for Thane.

I have no doubt, too.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Actually the big thing they seem to do to handle choices is keep the same missions, but change around some characters and context and modify the outcome based on who was involved.

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So kind of like the Suicide Mission? Where the context revolved on who you picked to be the specialists and team leaders. I did like that aspect of Mass Effect 2, and the first time I played it, that whole mission completely captured me, and I thought really deeply and tactical about who to use etc.

In regards to Thane, I think he would be very effective in planning infiltration, and figuring out how to eliminate a single target.

I have a scene in mind in fact. Kai Leng has had an encounter with Shepard that nearly killed him/her. Then Shep and co. manage to track Kai Leng to a building on a remote planet (possibly Invictus.) Radar has confirmed his presence in the building, but Kai Leng isn't stupid. He has traps in there, and plans to ambush Shep/Thane. However, they get a tip off from someone that he Kai has planned the ambush.

Shepard then can choose routes in which to get to Kai, methods in which to bypass traps, ambushes and how to deal with various types of enemies. Thane offers his advice at each critical point, and he gives insight into the workings of Kai's mind. Even if Thane's condition has deteriorated to the point where he is no longer effective in battle, he can be crucial in terms of tactical expertise, stealth and closing in on an enemy to kill Kai.

I hate to say it, but if a scene like this happens, then I may forgive Bioware if they have Thane die in ME3 (as long as the death is at the end of the game, and brilliantly done.) Thane is portrayed as the one of the best assassins in the galaxy.

Against Kai Leng, another who is said to be another of the best assassins, it would be an epic showdown, and would really provide that climax that we have been anticipating in Thane's character arc.

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There are a lot of opportunities to kill charscters, it seems, I suppose to inject some drama since the Reapers themselves aren't very interactive antagonists.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     After defeating Kai Leng.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Cutscene: We now load into the Citadel embassy for the Anderson wrap-up converasation. The player can travel to the Citadel hospital to speak to Thane if they so wish. 

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yay! One of the pics from the newly released ME3 Gamer Magazine features Thane! :D (from behind..but still! He´s alive! )

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Friera wrote...

yay! One of the pics from the newly released ME3 Gamer Magazine features Thane! :D (from behind..but still! He´s alive! )


I think that's an image from the co-op mode so not Thane... but don't worry he's going to be in the game.:)

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It probably wasn't Thane. We already knew he was alive because they told us if he survived the suicide mission than he would be in ME3. What they haven't said is how long. I don't want to see him for a few minutes an then never see him again.

It would have been nice to have Thane fight Kai Leng, but I don't think that is going to happen. It will be left up to Sheprad or someone else. I just don't have a lot of faith in Bioware right now. As for those leaked files I've read some of them. I still don't have much faith in them becuase some of those things could have changed, and not for the better.

I'm just going to have to wait until march to see what they do with him. Hopefuly something good.

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Tasha vas Nar Rayya wrote...

Shepard then can choose routes in which to get to Kai, methods in which to bypass traps, ambushes and how to deal with various types of enemies. Thane offers his advice at each critical point, and he gives insight into the workings of Kai's mind. Even if Thane's condition has deteriorated to the point where he is no longer effective in battle, he can be crucial in terms of tactical expertise, stealth and closing in on an enemy to kill Kai.

If Thane could give Shepard any kind of advice about dealing with assassins, their mindset during a mission, or how their strategies are different from enemies that Shepard has faced in the past, I'd really like to hear it. I've always thought assassins were interesting, and Thane would have all this inside knowledge. Shepard and Kai Leng have their N7 training in common, but some Shepards can be sort of clueless when it comes to stealth. My MainShep has a lot of respect for Thane being so skilled at this sort of thing. She's the type that likes to go in with guns blazing, if possible.

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The Sarendoctrinator wrote...

Tasha vas Nar Rayya wrote...

Shepard then can choose routes in which to get to Kai, methods in which to bypass traps, ambushes and how to deal with various types of enemies. Thane offers his advice at each critical point, and he gives insight into the workings of Kai's mind. Even if Thane's condition has deteriorated to the point where he is no longer effective in battle, he can be crucial in terms of tactical expertise, stealth and closing in on an enemy to kill Kai.

If Thane could give Shepard any kind of advice about dealing with assassins, their mindset during a mission, or how their strategies are different from enemies that Shepard has faced in the past, I'd really like to hear it. I've always thought assassins were interesting, and Thane would have all this inside knowledge. Shepard and Kai Leng have their N7 training in common, but some Shepards can be sort of clueless when it comes to stealth. My MainShep has a lot of respect for Thane being so skilled at this sort of thing. She's the type that likes to go in with guns blazing, if possible.


This would be great, but I don't think bioware will do it. I don't think it will be like LotSB were Thane helps you like Liara did. I just think it's going to be all Shepard. Shepard will probably just shoot him and he'll be dead.

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This would be great, but I don't think bioware will do it. I don't think it will be like LotSB were Thane helps you like Liara did. I just think it's going to be all Shepard. Shepard will probably just shoot him and he'll be dead.

Well, I don't know all details about Shepard's battle with Kai Leng, but [very minor spoilers?] it doesn't sound like an easy fight for Shepard. [/minor spoilers]

The inside knowledge about assassins is just a hope, not something I expect to see, but I would be glad if it did happen. I already got a good insight of Kai's mindset and strategies from Retribution. It would be nice if Shepard could have the same opportunity. Or maybe she'll just have to buy the book from an in-game store again.

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The Sarendoctrinator wrote...

JECWSU wrote...

This would be great, but I don't think bioware will do it. I don't think it will be like LotSB were Thane helps you like Liara did. I just think it's going to be all Shepard. Shepard will probably just shoot him and he'll be dead.

Well, I don't know all details about Shepard's battle with Kai Leng, but [very minor spoilers?] it doesn't sound like an easy fight for Shepard. [/minor spoilers]

The inside knowledge about assassins is just a hope, not something I expect to see, but I would be glad if it did happen. I already got a good insight of Kai's mindset and strategies from Retribution. It would be nice if Shepard could have the same opportunity. Or maybe she'll just have to buy the book from an in-game store again.


I know it won't be an easy fight for Shepard. Shepard will probably have some help I just don't know if it would be Thane. I could be wrong, and would be glad to be wrong. The thing about the inside knowledge would be wonderful. Who else would know how an assasin thinks but another assasin. If Bioware added even just a little I would be happy with that. Instead of doing this with Thane they might just have Shepard get some information on Kai Leng from Liara because she's the Shadow Broker, or even Miranda. It would be nice some of it could come from Thane.

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I know it won't be an easy fight for Shepard. Shepard will probably have some help I just don't know if it would be Thane. I could be wrong, and would be glad to be wrong. The thing about the inside knowledge would be wonderful. Who else would know how an assasin thinks but another assasin. If Bioware added even just a little I would be happy with that. Instead of doing this with Thane they might just have Shepard get some information on Kai Leng from Liara because she's the Shadow Broker, or even Miranda. It would be nice some of it could come from Thane.

I agree, Thane would be able to give Shepard information that no one else could. Liara would probably be able to show Shepard some facts about Kai Leng's military history, past missions with Cerberus, and stuff like that, but she wouldn't know how an assassin's mind works. Miranda might be able to offer more, as they worked for the same organization, but she was still in a completely different line of work.

In theory, Shepard could figure out some of those things about Kai from the facts... but not all Sheps are that good at analyzing people. I'd like to see Shepard get some information and then bring it to Thane for extra advice. Maybe Shepard won't end up putting that much thought into it, but it would be a smart thing to do.

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I agree, Thane would be able to give Shepard information that no one else could. Liara would probably be able to show Shepard some facts about Kai Leng's military history, past missions with Cerberus, and stuff like that, but she wouldn't know how an assassin's mind works. Miranda might be able to offer more, as they worked for the same organization, but she was still in a completely different line of work.

In theory, Shepard could figure out some of those things about Kai from the facts... but not all Sheps are that good at analyzing people. I'd like to see Shepard get some information and then bring it to Thane for extra advice. Maybe Shepard won't end up putting that much thought into it, but it would be a smart thing to do.


Shepard could probably get a bit of information from all of them. Maybe Liara more than Miranda, but Shepard going to Thane could be a big help to him or her when it comes to dealing with Kai Leng. That was one of the things that I liked about LotSB. Shepard didn't do it alone.

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JECWSU wrote...

Shepard could probably get a bit of information from all of them. Maybe Liara more than Miranda, but Shepard going to Thane could be a big help to him or her when it comes to dealing with Kai Leng. That was one of the things that I liked about LotSB. Shepard didn't do it alone.

I haven't played LotSB, so I'm not sure exactly how they handled it, but Shepard getting help from the team is a good thing. I liked the way many of them had their own specialties in the suicide mission, and it would be nice to see that idea expanded in ME3. With an assassin as a major enemy for Shepard, it would be perfect for Thane, if BioWare chose to go that route.