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The story of Thane is about loss and suffering but its also about hope and perseverance. Those of us who have followed this character have an emotional attachment to him. Whatever Bioware has in store for him is yet to be realized. We don't know what will happen. I do understand we have "leaked" information but the skeptic in me does not necessarily trust that information. What I do trust is the official information that will be found within the game.

I do not expect people to be excited about the last installment. Simply because it is the last installment. The journey comes to a close. We will know everything and in that aspect, there is joy and sorrow. It's bittersweet on many levels. 

There will be a sense of loss, disappointment but joy and accomplishment. 

It is a personal choice on where you place your emotional focus. Hope or despair. I choose hope. I always choose hope. Call it an inherent quality of who I am or a by product of the work I do, either way, I choose to be patient and wait. 

In the end you have to do what is right for you but always remember, there is a difference between faith, hope and trust. One is blind, another is an outlook focusing on a future good, and the other is earned. 

On a personal note: I will miss the wait, the speculation, the journey. It has been amazing and bittersweet. Take care. :) 

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I have no doubt ME3 will feature deaths of major characters but like many here, I just hope there will be choices. And I do try to keep telling myself that it's not final.. so far its just definitely a possibilty for him to die. I can't possibly imagine them forcing his death on us =S But on the other hand it  is kind of  hard to stay optimistic, as JECWSU has stated..  due to those pesky old leaks. We'll see what happens, I can only pray for the best. I really want to be able to further his romance.

And of course as a game as whole it will be great. No doubt there!

*EDIT* and very well put ^

Modifié par xxfallenangel, 06 janvier 2012 - 05:13 .


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I think a lot of characters are going to die in ME3. I personally think paragon will translate into sacrifice it all for the galaxy. Oh and I don't mind that, I am all for the crying and emotional traumas ME3 could bring and the pride if I pull through my team. I was so proud in ME2 when I got my whole team through the suicide mission. So I am super excited, a little wary and a lot happy with the vague sloilerish things I have seen thus far.  

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Yeah. Been thinking that Im two months away from the LAST ME game..probably ever. And I get the feeling I got when I had watched Lord of the Rings; Return of the Kind (Lets hope for "The Hobbit" in ME universe a few years from now) Makes me feel...empty. Such a wonderful world they made, just to end it. Im gonna miss my Shepards. I can´t belive Ive gotten so attached to a game. I havent been like this since I was like..12 years old and played Final Fantasy X.

Since BW doesn´t have to worry about import save I guess the world can actually end.. There really are gonna be multiple different endings, unlike ME1,ME2, DA:O and DA2. Exciting!

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I don't feel anything at all about this being the end. I feel nothing really. I would probably feel more if I wasn't so worried about what's going to happen in ME3. I am going to miss playing as Shepard though,and I have enjoyed the ME universe. I'm just hoping that they are able to pull of half of the things that they have promised. I expect multiple deaths, but I have yet to have any of the ones I've seen so far make me cry. I am trying to be optimistic and hope for the best with ME3.

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I CAN'T WAIT FOR MASS EFFECT 3!!!!

If those who are not feeling so enthusiastic about ME3, and if it is due to the spoilers from the leak, then bear in mind that that leak did not include all the options available in game. And that the devs themselves have said that is no where near the finished project. Bioware are a developer that listen to their fans.

And let's face it, the story sounds epic! And it looks like they are having a mission with every ex squadmate. Each of them sound brilliant. The combat system has been spiced up, there is the melee aspect, an increase in powers and a level up system that is more ME1 style. The inventory system includes more customisation. We get to see Earth! The story is on so much a climatic and universal scale. A giant Thresher Maw attacks a Reaper for God's sake!

And then there is the multiplayer, and I am so excited for that! It means more replayability, I can get my friends to play with me. I can create alien races rather than being stuck with Shepard, and command them in combat. I am so excited for Mass Effect 3! I love Thane, but as much as I hate to say it, the game is about more than just him. I would be gutted if he died a compulsory death, but I genuinely don't think that would happen.

Please, like Mei Mei said, let's stay optimistic. There is a lot of negativity on this thread. :)

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I don't think anyone ever said the story was just about him. We realize that there is more going on than just one character. That still doesn't help with the fact that he could get a bad story out of all of this. It's easy for people to say that when their favorite is in the game. Like I said beore I'm still going to play the game. I never said I wouldn't, but I probably won't enjoy it as much if Thane story is less than satisfactory.

Modifié par JECWSU, 06 janvier 2012 - 08:56 .


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Tasha, JEC.. I have a feeling your sig. poster's sentence will play into his story. ;p I have a good feeling.

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I'll say one thing--it being possible for any character to die in ME3 would not surprise me. But even if we have it confirmed that a character can die, it doesn't mean they must die. I like to think that our choices, both in ME2 and ME3, will matter as much as it was promised that they would.

If there was no way to fail Thane in ME3, I'd sort of be unhappy actually, because then saving him wouldn't mean very much. I want to feel like I rescued him for real, if I can do so.

I know one thing, though. If there was a mandatory death for Thane in ME3, like if the cure came too late to do his ravaged body good, they had BETTER give us Feron as compensation. But they shouldn't do that. I mean, the latter yes, the former no. Mandatory deaths are in most circumstances contrived and lame and I hate them in games.

I would like Feron to be available. But if he was a sort of "consolation option" due to Thane's death being unavoidable, they'd have to play it VERY sensitively to avoid making it feel wrong. Maybe just hint at the idea of Shepard finding happiness with another member of Thane's species, for whom the cure came fast enough to save him. Ugh, but even saying that makes me sad... I don't like inevitable deaths!

Pfft, I really think they should just let us have them both... Shepard as the peanut butter in a tasty drell sandwich, who's with me? :lol:

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I'm not sure about Feron. I like him, but I don't think he can replace Thane.

He'll probably be to busy at the Shadow Broker base since Liara is going to be with you most of the time.

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I can't wait to get back into the Mass Effect universe, one my top five most anticipated games.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Also I would definitely want to play the co-op side with a cpl of my friends as it was what I was hoping for DA2 and now ultimately DA3, so this could be an insight into how Bioware develop the co-op aspect of DA3. Similar to how DA2 used the dialogue wheel from ME2.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          The leaked script is incomplete, and there are various versions; Thane, who is described as being involved in a mission completely different to what has been revealed in the media already about him. Makes me wonder how old this stuff is. (Whether these rumors are true or not is another question.) Either way, that's a sign of incompletion.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     Female Shepard Trailer will be Released Before March 6th, 2012. According to Bioware employee it will be worth the wait. :D                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             

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     Oh, and enjoy this    Image IPB 

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I can't wait for ME3 because I want to see what happens and how the story ends, and there's no way a leaked rough draft of a script, much less a BioWare Pulse episode showing the title of one dialogue file, is going to spoil every little thing that's absolutely certain to happen in all seven of my playthroughs. Most of the dialogue in the ME series so far has been optional; why should that one pesky little file be any different?

Edit... @Wasp - Not cute at all, kind of creepy actually.  I seem to recall a video I saw about the design process for Thane, and some of the original concepts for Thane were some kind of baby-faced thing?  Yeah, you just proved how much of an epic fail that would have been.

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Hehe, I joke:P

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Wynne wrote...

I'll say one thing--it being possible for any character to die in ME3 would not surprise me. But even if we have it confirmed that a character can die, it doesn't mean they must die. I like to think that our choices, both in ME2 and ME3, will matter as much as it was promised that they would.

If there was no way to fail Thane in ME3, I'd sort of be unhappy actually, because then saving him wouldn't mean very much. I want to feel like I rescued him for real, if I can do so.

I know one thing, though. If there was a mandatory death for Thane in ME3, like if the cure came too late to do his ravaged body good, they had BETTER give us Feron as compensation. But they shouldn't do that. I mean, the latter yes, the former no. Mandatory deaths are in most circumstances contrived and lame and I hate them in games.

I would like Feron to be available. But if he was a sort of "consolation option" due to Thane's death being unavoidable, they'd have to play it VERY sensitively to avoid making it feel wrong. Maybe just hint at the idea of Shepard finding happiness with another member of Thane's species, for whom the cure came fast enough to save him. Ugh, but even saying that makes me sad... I don't like inevitable deaths!

Pfft, I really think they should just let us have them both... Shepard as the peanut butter in a tasty drell sandwich, who's with me? :lol:


Woah, woah, woah, woah, woah!

FERON?!

Liara's Feron? Skittlez Feron? Ferron-for-spare-parts Feron?

Why? *chokes* My God, why?

Besides the fact that he's a drell? I mean, it wouldn't work for any other LI, people would lose their minds if Tali was replaced by a random quarian, or Miranda by some random human chick (unless she has a hot body)  or Liara with some tokenAsari.

Uhm, was it mentioned that Feron had Keprals? I hadn't heard it anywhere... Drell only get it if they're stay too long on the Hanar home world so I don't see Feron getting saved from a disease he doesn't have...

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Feron doesn't have Keprals Syndrom as far as I know. Thane is the only one.

@Wasp.
That picture is interesting. I don't think it that creepy. It doesn't really bother me.

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I agree with Tasha. I think ME3 will be awesome, I'm totally excited for it, and the only thing that makes the wait easier is knowing that I still have some stuff to finish up before ME3 steals all of my free time. xD

I was disappointed to read that a lot of the ME2 characters won't be returning as squadmates, and some of my favorites are among them, but from the spoilers I've read so far, they're off doing really important things that make complete sense for who they are. I was disappointed that some characters I don't like are back on the team, but the important thing is, there will be at least two squadmates I do like who I can take on missions.There will be things in ME3 that I originally didn't want, but I think they're being handled really well (and for everything that I'm not sure of, I'll just have to wait and see). Some things are happening that I couldn't have even known I wanted to see until I found out they were a possibility. I'm going to love ME3, and if the (incomplete) information I know about Thane stays the same, I still see it as a satisfying conclusion for my FemShep's romance with him.

Friera wrote...

Been thinking that Im two months away from the LAST ME game..probably ever.

ME3 is the end of Shepard's story, but I doubt it will be the last game set in the Mass Effect universe. :)

JECWSU wrote...

I don't think anyone ever said the story was just about him. We realize that there is more going on than just one character. That still doesn't help with the fact that he could get a bad story out of all of this. It's easy for people to say that when their favorite is in the game. Like I said beore I'm still going to play the game. I never said I wouldn't, but I probably won't enjoy it as much if Thane story is less than satisfactory.

I must be in a very strange minority then. Sure, my favorite squadmate will be on Shepard's team again in ME3... but my favorite character died in ME1, no matter what. It seems like two of my other favorites (not including Thane) will also be killed in ME3, considering the fact that they're now major enemies. o_o Or maybe I'm just much too used to my favorites being killed off.

Wynne wrote...

I would like Feron to be available. But if he was a sort of "consolation option" due to Thane's death being unavoidable, they'd have to play it VERY sensitively to avoid making it feel wrong. Maybe just hint at the idea of Shepard finding happiness with another member of Thane's species, for whom the cure came fast enough to save him. Ugh, but even saying that makes me sad... I don't like inevitable deaths!

It would be cool to have Feron on the team... but not as Thane's replacement. I don't like the idea of replacement characters because it means you have to kill off one to get the other. My FemShep who will romance Thane wouldn't want to move on with someone else so quickly anyway. Eventually, sure. I think Thane would want that for her. But it would have to be a few years, at least.

@Wasp: Is that a baby drell?

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Mass Effect 3 is going to be awesome!
They're definitely not giving as much away this time 'round, which in my opinion, is a good thing.
Might mean there's less hype but that means we have more to enjoy when playing the game for the first time ;)

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I'm sorry, but I'm just not as excited for this game as I was for the other two. After I play the game then I'll decide if I think it's an awsome game.

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 @The Sarendoctrinator: Yeah, Thane in the childhood))                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         ESRB Rating for Mass Effect 3.                                                                                                                                                  Rated M for:                                                                                                                                                                                   Blood, partial nudity, strong language, violence, sexual content.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                           BBFC Rating for Mass Effect 3.                                                                                                                                                  Rated 15 for:                                                                                                                                                                                 Strong language, infrequent strong violence.                                                                                                                               The main point of interest is that it confirms the game will contain 82 minutes of cutscenes.:)                                             

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If they have 82 cutscenes than Thane better be in some of them.

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The Sarendoctrinator wrote...

I agree with Tasha. I think ME3 will be awesome, I'm totally excited for it, and the only thing that makes the wait easier is knowing that I still have some stuff to finish up before ME3 steals all of my free time. xD

I was disappointed to read that a lot of the ME2 characters won't be returning as squadmates, and some of my favorites are among them, but from the spoilers I've read so far, they're off doing really important things that make complete sense for who they are. I was disappointed that some characters I don't like are back on the team, but the important thing is, there will be at least two squadmates I do like who I can take on missions.There will be things in ME3 that I originally didn't want, but I think they're being handled really well (and for everything that I'm not sure of, I'll just have to wait and see). Some things are happening that I couldn't have even known I wanted to see until I found out they were a possibility. I'm going to love ME3, and if the (incomplete) information I know about Thane stays the same, I still see it as a satisfying conclusion for my FemShep's romance with him.


I must be in a very strange minority then. Sure, my favorite squadmate will be on Shepard's team again in ME3... but my favorite character died in ME1, no matter what. It seems like two of my other favorites (not including Thane) will also be killed in ME3, considering the fact that they're now major enemies. o_o Or maybe I'm just much too used to my favorites being killed off.


You just like the bad boys Kim Image IPB. Hopefully they will have another book/comic that will include even some more Saren, especially if it described his descent into indoctrination, that would be cool.

Thanks for the positivity guys. I wasn't aiming my previous comment at anyone in particular. It is just that I realised that ME3 is only 2 months away now, and I am very excited for it! And I can't wait to see Thane (especially in that sandwich that Wynne mentioned... Image IPB)

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The Sarendoctrinator wrote...

JECWSU wrote...

I don't think anyone ever said the story was just about him. We realize that there is more going on than just one character. That still doesn't help with the fact that he could get a bad story out of all of this. It's easy for people to say that when their favorite is in the game. Like I said beore I'm still going to play the game. I never said I wouldn't, but I probably won't enjoy it as much if Thane story is less than satisfactory.


I must be in a very strange minority then. Sure, my favorite squadmate will be on Shepard's team again in ME3... but my favorite character died in ME1, no matter what. It seems like two of my other favorites (not including Thane) will also be killed in ME3, considering the fact that they're now major enemies. o_o Or maybe I'm just much too used to my favorites being killed off.


Then you're very lucky that you to have your favorites with you. My favorite isn't going to be with me. No one from ME2 is going to be with us. Except for Garrus and Tali. Bioware just doesn't seem to be to interested in the rest of them. They haven't given any information on any of them, and at this point I don't expect them to. I'm also very use to my favorite characters being pushed to the side or killed. That's why this one bothers me, and one of the reasons that I feel no excitement about this game. How does anyone know that this is going to be a great game? Before I decide that I have to play the game first, but I am not expecting much.

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@Wasp: 82 minutes of cutscenes?! Image IPB I have no idea how many minutes the others had, but that sounds great!

Tasha vas Nar Rayya wrote...

You just like the bad boys Kim Image IPB. Hopefully they will have another book/comic that will include even some more Saren, especially if it described his descent into indoctrination, that would be cool.

Yeah, that's true. :D It's sad that this means they're often killed off... but BioWare has made some awesome Saren-related things (Revelation, Evolution, the litho, and if there are any others that I've missed - someone, tell me) even though he died in the game, so I'm totally happy with that. I'd be even happier with another comic like the one you've described, of course. They even managed to make his death this epic, emotional moment that was an amazing part of the game. And if the spoilers I've read for Thane stay as they are, that is exactly how I would describe one of his possible scenes.

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Then you're very lucky that you to have your favorites with you. My favorite isn't going to be with me. No one from ME2 is going to be with us. Except for Garrus and Tali. Bioware just doesn't seem to be to interested in the rest of them. They haven't given any information on any of them, and at this point I don't expect them to. I'm also very use to my favorite characters being pushed to the side or killed. That's why this one bothers me so much, and one of the reasons that I feel no excitement about this game. How does anyone know that this is going to be a great game? Before I can decide that I have to play the game, but I'm not expecting much.

I'm guessing you haven't read the spoilers? Most (possibly all) of the squadmates who don't return to Shepard's team have good reason for it, at least in my opinion. I still consider their roles important, sometimes even more so than the squadmates.

My excitement is based mostly on the fact that I've enjoyed every BioWare game I've played (ME1, ME2, DAO & Awakening, DA2, Jade Empire, and part of KOTOR) more than any other, and partly based on what I've read from the leaked script.

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 In comparison, Mass Effect 2 only had 23 minutes of cutscenes, which leads me to believe the game will focus heavily on non-interactive plot development. On the other hand, this could also indicate various versions of each cutscene deepening on player choices throughout the game.