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[wasp777]

 I used Thane and Jack all the time on my engineer. I thought it was a really good combo, especially Thane providing the much needed sniper support and Jack breaking big groups and dragging people out from behind heavy cover.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     Tali and Legion would be funny combo...3 drones and 3 hacked synthetics...lol

Modifié par wasp777, 10 janvier 2012 - 06:57 .

[wildannie]

I use Thane plus one, I have used Mordin (like incinerate) and Garrus (bro) quite alot and recently I've been taking Kasumi (quite like the flashbang and shadowstrike) but other than that I vary them although it's very rare for me to use Grunt, Jacob or Zaeed outside of their loyalty mission.

[JECWSU]

The ones I use the least are Zaeed, Jacob, Samare or Tali.
It's going to be really hard not being able Thane with me in ME3. I take him with me everywhere from the moment I get him in in ME2.

[abnocte]

The Sarendoctrinator wrote...
*snip*

I was just wondering, after looking at the picture of Thane in a tux, if drell would have some kind of formal outfits that differ from what humans wear? I know what turian casual outfits look like, but drell are much closer to human body types. I think the only clothes we've seen for drells are those amazing jackets/assassin outfit, not that I would complain if their whole species dresses according to the rule of cool.

*snip*

Well... it's a videogame and Thane, Feron and Kolyat share the same body for obvious reasons, but if it were the real world.... I don't know what face I would make if I ever ran across a drell wearing such clothes but with a volus-like figure.... XD

I apologize if I offended someone!!


About squadmates.... now I totally metagame and choose depending on what kind of enemies I'm going to face:

- synthethics => someone with Overload, mainly Garrus
- organics => someone with Warp, Thane, Samara, or Mordin if I feel like setting things on fire  

it also depends on wich class I'm playing, no point in bringing Samara when I play as an Adept.


I actually found femHawke animations too exaggerated, it hurt just seeing her running, no woman runs swaying her hips like that without breaking her spine!!

This at least made me laugh: 

Modifié par abnocte, 10 janvier 2012 - 08:36 .

[JECWSU]

Shepard is so unladylike.
I laughed the first time I saw her sit like that.
I don't sit like that even when I'm wearing pants.

[RGC_Ines]

To be honest I never notice my fem Shep sit like that, but I dislike her moves...In ME1 I dislike the most " dance" , and it's not better in ME2...I don't care how she is moving in armor, but it was really bad experience to see her in a dress .....Please BW give her at last an asari moves model....

[JECWSU]

RGC_Ines wrote...

To be honest I never notice my fem Shep sit like that, but I dislike her moves...In ME1 I dislike the most " dance" , and it's not better in ME2...I don't care how she is moving in armor, but it was really bad experience to see her in a dress .....Please BW give her at last an asari moves model....

Shepards dancing is horrible, and I laugh everytime I see her run. Has anyone noticed how she runs and sometimes looks off to the side? I don't know why bioware thought that was a good idea.

[Wynne]

RGC_Ines wrote...

Be strong young padawan and don't go to dark side..ekhm..website with leaked scripts I mean
Honestly, I think, that VA will play a big and very important role in Kaidan romance,  There will be at last one, dialog between him and Shepard where I think, that theirs feelings will play a role, and I imagine a lot of passion/pain there ( and no I don't mean love passion),  after the....well plot that will probably happened ( I read the two version on it)...All depends on Sbarge talent here and if he will be succesfull in his task, then Im sure, that a lot of Kaidan's fangirls will like it.

 I will try to be strong! It's just so hard. I already peeked at some very vague, generalized semi-spoilers which helped because if they're true, I really like where things are going in some arenas.

Is it different for different characters? I mean, did you see him react any differently depending on who Shepard romanced? 'Cause I think the romances radiate different meanings if Shepard chooses them after being with Kaidan. Maybe more from his perspective.

Jacob: "I am like a dog in heat and I can't keep my lady-parts in my armor!" / "Screw all that weepy stuff, it's rebound time!" / "Whatever. Kaidan left. If he cared, he should be here."
Garrus: "Maybe a longtime friend makes more sense than a subordinate."
Thane: "I'm afraid of death. So is he. He gets me." / "Maybe it's okay to try to give him my heart--even if it wouldn't work for a lifetime, at least he won't have to face death alone. Neither will I." / "Sorry, Kaidan... I think this is what real love feels like."

I just think the range of motives for romancing Thane is far more immediately sympathetic than the others. With Jacob, it seems pretty sexual however you crack it. With Garrus, it's like, "Oh, so you were in love with him all along! You couldn't wait to get your hands on him once I was gone, could you?" which isn't fair but Kaidan won't be thinking rationally. Or maybe, "Couldn't you at least have picked someone who wasn't my friend?" 

With Thane, on the other hand... it's a dying man. So you've got Shepard's feeling of, "this might be the last chance I have to feel something with another person, and Kaidan chose not to be here" and then you add to it "plus, it is (you think at the time) DEFINITELY Thane's last chance," so the equation here seems more compelling to me than the others. But I'm not sure if that would occur to the writers... they have SO many things to think about. Still, 1000 variables is a lot...

JECWSU wrote...

I
like Jack also. On my next playthrough I'm going to make a MShep to do
her romance.

I was so pissed that you couldn't have a proper friendship with Jack that I essentially did just that. Well, to be honest, I was toying with the idea of giving my ManShep (who romanced Ashley, whom I loved) to her when I saw her in the trailer because I thought she was too awesome. Then I heard people saying good things about the Paragon side of her romance, and... well, my Torran is the only ManShep that I've ever played all the way through, so far. He happens to also be a real boy scout of a Paragon; a redhead, whom I created so that I could play him as the type I'd want to set up a beloved single friend with and feel like I could trust him. *has a thing for redheads, too*

Aaanyway, I grew to love Jack so much that I was like, "Okay, she is PERFECT for him." Because Torran is the nurturing type. He can put on the gruff, manly facade, but when it comes down to it, he needs to be needed, not just desired or appreciated. It's not a paternalistic thing, it's an internal stability thing--he knows how to offer respect and security to people who've never experienced it before because he's just so unwavering in his faith in people. So when he met Jack, he was ready to be her anchor, no strings attached... and then bit by bit, she melted his already soft heart into a gooey puddle of manly love. After which he dedicated himself to proving to her that good people existed and they could be survivors (Spacer/Sole Survivor, so he is that perfect guy for Jack, stable secure family life but he's still tasted of life's brutality and loss; like her he knows the feeling of being the only one who got out alive.)

So, yeah. I love my Torran, and I love him 4x as much now that he loves Jack. But it's going to suck for him having those conflicting feelings for Ashley. He really cared about her too. The guilt for having moved on will be intense.

Not to ramble on about stuff that maybe only I care about.

Purple_Lobster wrote...

Thane's romance is my favourite too.

Garrus' romance is cute with his adorable awkwardness but I feel that with his
and Shepard's connection, they deserved a better romance scene. It got
better towards the end though.

These are my opinions, too--I thought Garrus/Shepard deserved more romance than it got, but I have hope for ME3 being better. Still, Thane is the top of the list for me so far.

Graywolf11 wrote...

Want to know how I discovered it at
all? I played Skyrim and there is this marriage option right? And I was
like "meh, lets see who`s on the list" and from some thread I found
someone commenting that nothing beats Biowares romances, quick youtube
search and as soon as Thane came up I was sold I knew all the best
lines even before I started playing and I decided to do things right and
picked up ME1 first.

Oh, cool, a baby Mass Effect fan! *snuggles* I'm not saying that to be patronizing; I actually think that's awesome! I love it when new people discover the series and get as hooked as I did years back when ME came out for the PC.  Welcome to the fandom! 

Modifié par Wynne, 10 janvier 2012 - 09:35 .

[Friera]

Im currently reading ME: Redemption - and Daark Horse comic has made Feron so fricking fugly. But then again, I don´t really like the drawings in generall. But I wish they kept his outfit in ME2 though - its cool!

[Wynne]

Friera wrote...

Im currently reading ME: Redemption - and
Daark Horse comic has made Feron so fricking fugly. But then again, I
don´t really like the drawings in generall. But I wish they kept his
outfit in ME2 though - its cool!

*lol* Yeah... in the comics, I was fond of his personality, not his look, except for the coloring which I thought was kinda neat. But then I saw him in LotSB, and heard his voice, and I was all OM NOM NOM all over the screen. He's too tasty! My non-Liaramancing, non-Feron-interested Shepards would be happy to see him and Liara together, but I would so love to have a Shepard of mine with him. He gave me such a major crush on his minor-character self.

The Sarendoctrinator wrote...

@Wynne: I should read Redemption again, because I forgot a lot of what you mentioned there. Yes, if Feron was a romance option, he would get one of my FemSheps for sure. He would have anyway, but he's moved up on the list now. (And about Kaidan, I did read a lot of pain and passion in his dialogue. I can't say too much because you don't want to see the spoilers. )

I definitely recommend a reread! The comic shows more of Feron's depths, and it's how I got so excited to see that he could in fact be rescued and hadn't died, 'cause at the end it really looks like he's a goner. Boy did I ever squeal when I heard he was in LotSB! I would love it if they made him an option; there's just a certain poetic significance considering his pivotal role in Shepard's resurrection, not to mention the fact that he is already in good with her best friend.

Very glad to hear that about Kaidan... really, I can forgive a lot if I get the sense that he cared. That was what really killed me on Horizon; the feeling that he thought the worst of Shepard and wouldn't even give her a chance to explain otherwise. Everything could've played out the same, and if he hadn't said "you betrayed the Alliance, you betrayed me"... I don't know, I just wished he'd checked his anger enough to listen. To see Shepard's side, like she saw his.The most important thing to me in ME3 will be whether or not he can get it through his head that Shepard is the same woman he met in ME1, that it was HIM that was mistaken, that Cerberus was her only choice.

Modifié par Wynne, 10 janvier 2012 - 10:01 .

[RGC_Ines]

Wynne wrote...

[Is it different for different characters? I mean, did you see him react any differently depending on who Shepard romanced? 'Cause I think the romances radiate different meanings if Shepard chooses them after being with Kaidan. Maybe more from his perspective.

Well about Kaidan once again..all I saw was: Kaidan's question about Shepard's cheating.And the second is a talk after they meet Jacob ( if Jacob was an LI in ME2) So not too much....plus I had feelings that Kaidan didn't care too much about cheating. But, to be honest the best in spoilers were two dialogs...One between Shepard&Thane about Kaidan, if Thane wasn't LI, and the second about Kaidan also, if Thane was LI, but Shepard decided to return to Kaidan...and it was sooo.... After that, my sympathy for Thane leveled up... and his words  were...well  he is just really awesome.
Can't say  more, becouse there's not too much about this in leaked info ... What I dislike : Shepard dialog option in her scene with Kaidan, when he is asking about cheating...Hope at last there will be third option in final product...

Modifié par RGC_Ines, 10 janvier 2012 - 10:23 .

[Purple_Lobster]

mythlover20 wrote...

*TACKLEHUGS!!!!* OMGs thank you so much. You have NO idea how much it means to me to hear people like what I write. It really does help at three o'clock in the morning and I'm trying to edit a crappy combat scene.

Incidentally I was listening to David Garret's "Carmen Fantaisie", his cover of "L'amour est un oiseau rebelle" (aka Habanera) from George Bizet's Carmen (Act 1). It's not the dance I portrayed in the story, which was a waltz, but it is still a beautiful Argentine Tango. www.youtube.com/watch

*HUGS!!* Haha, you're very much welcome! I really did enjoy it, it was great. The ending was so bittersweet, I just loved it! I also listened to that piece of music and I actually found it soothing, it was really beautiful.

I am now about to attempt to copy a picture of Thane into this post, wish me luck on this difficult journey!
DUN DUN DUN....

<IMG src=" http://browse.deviantart.com/?q=Thane Krios&order=9&offset=72#/d41wvcg" alt=""/>

It probably didn't work but if it did, I found this on deviantART so I can't take the credit but it's a lovely photo! I love how the light captures his face!

Okay, it didn't work so I'll just put in the link if you're interested in looking up the picture.

http://browse.deviantart.com/?q=Thane Krios&order=9&offset=72#/d41wvcg

Modifié par Purple_Lobster, 10 janvier 2012 - 10:17 .

[Friera]

I hope Liara ends up with Feron. Cuz my Sheps not going to romance either one of them - ever. But Liara deserves a happy ending with someone. And she likes him, Im sure!
Its a shame they changed his personality for the LotSB. He´s kinda dfunny in the comic.

Modifié par Friera, 10 janvier 2012 - 10:29 .

[JECWSU]

For my one Shepard that left Kaidan there is no going back. Horizon was it for her, so she is done. Any Shepard that decieds to return to Kaidan doesn't deserve someone like Thane. I read some of that too and wanted to smack her. You should never play with someones feeling like that.
I'm starting to wonder if Thane is even going to get a decent romance. Everyone from ME1 will, but the rest I'm not to sure about.

[Purple_Lobster]

RGC_Ines wrote...

Well about Kaidanonce again..all I saw was: Kaidan's question about Shepard's cheating.And the second is a talk after they meet Jacob ( if Jacob was an LI in ME2). But, to be honest the best in spoilers were two dialogs...One between Shepard&Thane about Kaidan, if Thane wasn't LI, and the second about Kaidan also, if Thane was LI, but Shepard decided to return to Kaidan...and it was sooo.... After that, my sympathy for Thane leveled up... and his words  were...well  he is just really awesome.
Can't say  more, becouse there's not too much about this in leaked info ... What I dislike : Shepard dialog option in her scene with Kaidan, when he is asking about cheating...Hope at last there will be third option in final product...

Oh my goodness, the temptation to read these spoilers!
Anyway, I don't think I could make my Shepard leave Thane but I don't want her to break Kaidan's heart either. Argh! I can imagine Thane respecting Shepard's decision either way because he's just that awesome.

[JECWSU]

Friera wrote...

I hope Liara ends up with Shep. Cuz my Sheps not going to romance either one of them - ever. But Liara deserves a happy ending with someone. And she likes him, Im sure!
Its a shame they changed his personality for the LotSB. He´s kinda dfunny in the comic.

Are you talking about Feron?
I think if you didn't romance Liara maybe she will end up with Feron.

[Friera]

JECWSU wrote...

Friera wrote...

I hope Liara ends up with Feron. Cuz my Sheps not going to romance either one of them - ever. But Liara deserves a happy ending with someone. And she likes him, Im sure!
Its a shame they changed his personality for the LotSB. He´s kinda dfunny in the comic.

Are you talking about Feron?
I think if you didn't romance Liara maybe she will end up with Feron.

Ops, sorry, ment Feron.

Well, I think so too.

[RGC_Ines]

Purple_Lobster wrote...
Oh my goodness, the temptation to read these spoilers!
Anyway, I don't think I could make my Shepard leave Thane but I don't want her to break Kaidan's heart either. Argh! I can imagine Thane respecting Shepard's decision either way because he's just that awesome.

Well...my advice...don't read the spoilers ..Sometimes I regret that I read them, becouse can't stand right now with Kaidan...And Thane is really awesome....


JECWSU

While I never agreed, that moving to Thane in ME2 was a " cheating" I would never come back to Kaidan after my romance with Thane, becouse it would be for me true " cheating". Kaidan had a chance for mourning, for " move on", for  new life after  Shepard " death". While I can understand him ( well at last I tried) on Horizon, I think, that he know it was past, and they can or not to try to be again ..Thane it's different story, they started theirs relationship, and while they both know, that there's little chance to continue theirs relationship in a future, Shepard gave him a hope, a reason for living ( Kolyat & her feelings ). Toying like that with Thane ( return to Kaidan) would be extremaly  vile in my opinion...So IF I will ever want to be with Kaidan again ( and I really doubt about this) I will use my only " loyal" Shep for that.

[Purple_Lobster]

RGC_Ines wrote...

Purple_Lobster wrote...
Oh my goodness, the temptation to read these spoilers!
Anyway, I don't think I could make my Shepard leave Thane but I don't want her to break Kaidan's heart either. Argh! I can imagine Thane respecting Shepard's decision either way because he's just that awesome.

Well...my advice...don't read the spoilers ..Sometimes I regret that I read them, becouse can't stand right now with Kaidan...And Thane is really awesome....


JECWSU

While I never agreed, that moving to Thane in ME2 was a " cheating" I would never come back to Kaidan after my romance with Thane, becouse it would be for me true " cheating". Kaidan had a chance for mourning, for " move on", for  new life after  Shepard " death". While I can understand him ( well at last I tried) on Horizon, I think, that he know it was past, and they can or not to try to be again ..Thane it's different story, they started theirs relationship, and while they both know, that there's little chance to continue theirs relationship in a future, Shepard gave him a hope, a reason for living ( Kolyat & her feelings ). Toying like that with Thane ( return to Kaidan) would be extremaly  vile in my opinion...So IF I will ever want to be with Kaidan again ( and I really doubt about this) I will use my only " loyal" Shep for that.

Those are some really good points. I honestly don't think I could toy with Thane by going back to Kaidan. Giving him reasons to live then taking away one of them (Shepard's love) would just be cruel.

[JECWSU]

RGC_Ines wrote...

Purple_Lobster wrote...
Oh my goodness, the temptation to read these spoilers!
Anyway, I don't think I could make my Shepard leave Thane but I don't want her to break Kaidan's heart either. Argh! I can imagine Thane respecting Shepard's decision either way because he's just that awesome.

Well...my advice...don't read the spoilers ..Sometimes I regret that I read them, becouse can't stand right now with Kaidan...And Thane is really awesome....


JECWSU

While I never agreed, that moving to Thane in ME2 was a " cheating" I would never come back to Kaidan after my romance with Thane, becouse it would be for me true " cheating". Kaidan had a chance for mourning, for " move on", for  new life after  Shepard " death". While I can understand him ( well at last I tried) on Horizon, I think, that he know it was past, and they can or not to try to be again ..Thane it's different story, they started theirs relationship, and while they both know, that there's little chance to continue theirs relationship in a future, Shepard gave him a hope, a reason for living ( Kolyat & her feelings ). Toying like that with Thane ( return to Kaidan) would be extremaly  vile in my opinion...So IF I will ever want to be with Kaidan again ( and I really doubt about this) I will use my only " loyal" Shep for that.

I didn't mean to make it sound like I was talking about you.
I just don't think it's fair to do that to either one of them, because someone is going to get hurt.  Thane probably the most. I feel like Shepard shouln't have gotten involved with Thane if she still had feelings for Kaidan.  I just could never break Thane's heart like that. 

Kaidan will be fine. I have a loyal Shepard just for him.

[Wynne]

RGC_Ines wrote...

One between Shepard&Thane about Kaidan, if Thane wasn't LI, and the second about Kaidan also, if Thane was LI, but Shepard decided to return to Kaidan...and it was sooo.... After that, my sympathy for Thane leveled up... and his words were...well  he is just really awesome.
Can't say  more, becouse there's not too much about this in leaked info ... What I dislike : Shepard dialog option in her scene with Kaidan, when he is asking about cheating...Hope at last there will be third option in final product...

Ohhh... I can't wait to see what Thane said! As to the lame cheating dialogue, I hope that, since they aren't writing off fan complaints and may have changed stuff in response to them, that maybe they will fix it.

My Shepard did NOT cheat with Thane. <_< Kaidan called her a traitor, walked away, apologized in a stupid letter that  but never ONCE said anything like, "I want to mend fences even though I can't walk the same path with you. Meet me on the Citadel and we'll talk about it." That was NOT a relationship anymore. If there is even the slightest HINT of the word "cheating", then so help me... why is there not a nerdrage smiley? I need one! 

Kaidan's letter, even, said "maybe later... when things settle down..." those were his feelings, there was NEVER a promise from Shepard, NEVER a promise from him. He let her go off and risk her life alone. That is not a relationship anymore! If two people had ONE night together, don't live with each other for years, have an angry conversation about how they don't know each other, after which there's a letter of apology but no attempt whatsoever to reestablish contact... the idea that that is cheating just makes me so disgusted. It's like if I said I liked dark chocolate and someone immediately ranted about how I was the most racist person they ever met.

If that's how the game is going to treat this, after all this time and all the complaints from fans, I am seriously going to be pissed. It will distract me from my enjoyment of the game. I am not happy when I think about that.

Friera wrote...

Its a shame they changed his personality for the LotSB. He´s kinda funny in the comic.

If you'd had the dickens tortured out of you for ages just to amuse your former employer that you betrayed in order to save someone's life without knowing whether you were successful for sure, you wouldn't be very funny for a while, either. He could change.

JECWSU wrote...

For my one Shepard that left Kaidan there
is no going back. Horizon was it for her, so she is done. Any Shepard
that decieds to return to Kaidan doesn't deserve someone like Thane. I
read some of that too and wanted to smack her. You should never play
with someones feeling like that.

Does it have to be playing? When someone is going to die, and you think you might too, it seems less important to sit around and gaze at your navel and question your own motives 'til you're blue in the face. What if Shepard decided she wanted biological children now that she's survived so much? What if she just felt Kaidan suited her better in the long run? What if she was even just afraid that maybe Thane was better off without her? I can see a lot of character reasons for a Shepard to go back to Kaidan after Thane, depending. The issues are murkier when all three people involved are living in such extreme circumstances.

Hell, in the long run, if Shepard realizes her love for Thane isn't strong enough to last, he's better off having the chance to move on and find someone who can than if she stayed with him out of duty.

I will be so unhappy if the way the dialogue reads is that Shepard was just messing with Thane rather than feeling genuine attraction and warmth for him. Sometimes you realize you love someone deeply as a friend but don't have the stuff to make it long-term, but they were so awesome you found yourself wanting to try, wanting to believe it was real. I don't want to be forced, if I play a character torn between two LIs, to admit to being some kind of careless, thoughtless, heartless, biatch if I don't choose the VS. Just thinking about it makes the nerdrage in me begin to rise again.

Arrgghh, WHY do they insist on viewing it as cheating?!?! It's so utterly asinine! There was no relationship left! If I haven't lived with my boyfriend for two years and he says he's almost moved on, that is romantic tension, but we do NOT HAVE A RELATIONSHIP ANYMORE! Kaidan and Shepard are not together in ME2 EVEN IF THEY STILL LOVE EACH OTHER! Aieeeeeee!

*facedesk* 

Sorry, I don't mean to rant. It just is such a pet peeve of mine. I would never cheat, so even in fiction this bothers the ever-loving hell out of me.

Modifié par Wynne, 10 janvier 2012 - 11:15 .

[JECWSU]

I do understand that I just feel this is something Shepard should have realized before she got involved  with someone else. If she wants children than she probably shouldn't get involved with an alien. The only one who is going to loose is Thane or Kaidan, but not Shepard. It's pretty clear that Thane is in love with Shepard. If she doesn't even feel anything close to that then they should just stay friends. I hate the idea of giving him hope and making him think he has something to live for then taking it away. After reading that letter and everything else that happens in the romance I just couldn't do it.

It's the same thing with Garrus. You get him to take a chance and go out of his comfort zone. He even asks you if you want something closer to home and Sheapard says she wants him. Then she decieds to go back to Kaidan. That just isn't fair. It makes it seem like they are rebound relationships.

That's what would really bother me. If they had Shepard act as if her relationship with Thane was nothing. Like she didn't really care for him. That would make me angry,and it would make Shepard look really bad.

I agree I never veiwed it as cheating. You both just moved on.

Modifié par JECWSU, 10 janvier 2012 - 11:35 .

[Wynne]

@JECWSU: Maybe it's just my psych background here; relationship therapy has always sort of been my thing... but Shepard died. A bit of psychopathology, a bit of PTSD or even a lot of it? Entirely possible, even probable. And it does happen that people fall in love with two people at the same time, or get confused about what love is. Nobody's born knowing what love is. Most people have to crash and burn a little to learn that.

I had a very close friend that I cared for very much and was attracted to. Only the feeling that something was missing clued me in, but I told myself I was being unrealistic and asking for too much. It took the realization that he had been lying to me continually over the course of a month or so (about quitting smoking--I'd suspected otherwise and asked him, and he lied to my face) to make me see that it wasn't going to work.

Some of the Shepards I mentioned would be horrible biatches, or at least irresponsible and foolish; this is true. But what about an emotionally screwed up Mindoir Colonist who lost everyone she loved and just got the crap rejected out of her by Kaidan? Someone who just sees a devastatingly handsome, incredibly sensitive and mature exotic alien who is dying alone and as unloved as she is? Who only has memories of the past to cling to, much like her? Helping him put his life back together, fighting at his side, learning to trust him and care for him... it's easy to fall for someone amazing like Thane. Whether or not it would work in practice, though, is another thing than having deep feelings in the moment.

Love isn't just in the moment, though. Not even in the months. It's something different. Something where you feel you can learn from the other person for a lifetime. Me, I just hit a day where I realized there'd been something I needed to learn from the relationship with my friend--that friendship + attraction somehow doesn't sum up to love, and that the person I am cannot abide lying. I went into the relationship feeling sure that this could be the romance that worked for me... and I walked out of it understanding that even if he hadn't lied to me, we couldn't last because we were wrong. Not because he wasn't worthy of love, but because we were fundamentally flawed in ways that we wouldn't have known if we hadn't attempted to find love together.

We both had the best of intentions. Breaking up with him, despite his tears, was the kindest thing I could do, though. I was setting us both on the road to each finding a person who could love us long-term, not just short term.

Granted, Thane is a lot more mature. But it's why I think he could understand and forgive a Shepard who thought he was an amazing person, who loved being close to him... but who realized there was no other place for the relationship to go. Realized they didn't have as much in common as she thought despite how it had seemed from how they talked. Who tried her hardest, but still couldn't be the person he wanted and hated herself for it, but was dying inside from the conflict.

Personally, I'm not inclined to forgive Kaidan and take him back unless I find out some extreme reasons to sympathize with him that I wouldn't have expected. Personally, I think Thane is by far the better man of the two, at least from what I've seen. Except for his baggage, I see Thane as the guy who's far better to settle down with, and I don't even plan on having kids, currently. But I can see how a Shepard could fall for both men, eventually realize that her feelings for Kaidan were the stronger based on how he's changed over the course of ME 2 & 3, and not be a horrible person, but someone who grieves awfully over how she's hurting someone she deeply cares for.

It would just be one of those situation that just... sucks. Awfully. For basically everyone involved. And in those situations, you just have to go with your heart. (Hell, even if it means saying, "I love you both equally, which means I either don't know either of you well enough, or I am not truly in love with either of you.")

[JECWSU]

Wynne wrote...

Some of the Shepards I mentioned would be horrible biatches, or at least irresponsible and foolish; this is true. But what about an emotionally screwed up Mindoir Colonist who lost everyone she loved and just got the crap rejected out of her by Kaidan? Someone who just sees a devastatingly handsome, incredibly sensitive and mature exotic alien who is dying alone and as unloved as she is? Who only has memories of the past to cling to, much like her? Helping him put his life back together, fighting at his side, learning to trust him and care for him... it's easy to fall for someone amazing like Thane. Whether or not it would work in practice, though, is another thing than having deep feelings in the moment.

The shepard that I have that left Kaidan for Thane happens to be a sole survivor. For her Kaidan calling her a traitor was horrible. She was afraid to let someone get close to her for fear of loosing someone she loved a gain. It took a lot for her to let him in, but she did. She believed he loved her and trusted her. She sees him and he rejects her. He breaks her heart so the wall she built around herself goes back up. Until she meets Thane,and he slowly wins her heart. He gave her somehthing Kaidan didn't.

I think for her she can eventually forgive Kaidan, and might even understand his reason for the things he said. It's just too late for them.

I have never had that happen to me,and I've never done that to someone. I do think that if you manage to figure it out before you let the relationship go on to long then you shoud tell the other person. If you let it continue hope that your feelings will change then that isn't being fair to anyone.

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