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Asenza wrote...

Ellise wrote...


I'd think we could learn more if we read up on the internal ear structure of lizards. (as horrible as that sounds xD)

Ah, here we go:

" In many lizards the external ear is either absent or greatly reduced and most species have a superficial tympanum. The tympanic membrane is generally visible and covered with thin transparent skin which is also shed during ecdysis. In earless and horned lizards, the membrane is covered with scaly skin."

So, an earless Thane makes sense. ^^


Cool. I'll take it. No longer is it one of history's mysteries!




If you look closely at Thane's head, where the ribbing is or whatever that red part is called, there's a part that looks a little different.  It's right above the area where the green stripe on his neck begins.   I always thought that was his ear. 

But yeah hard to see regardless.

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Ellise wrote...

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I know this sounds mean, but I wouldn't feel that bad about it either. No one asked her to do those things, and no one made her. After what she said about Thane I really wouldn't feel bad.


Now, now, she never said anything bad about Thane specifically. She just questionned your reasons for being with him. 
It was a low blow, she wanted to hurt Shepard like she'd been hurt. The intention was to hit a nerve, and she succeeded. 
It would have been better if everyone else had gotten a b*tchy line, but oh well. The Thane romance his easier to pick on than the others. ;)

I'm not angry with Liara. I know she's angry and wants to hurt Shepard. I still think it was a awful thing to say. It made her look very petty and jealous. It also isn't  the reason I wouldn't feel bad about cheating on her. I guess I'm just not really attached to the character so it really wouldn't bother me that much. I probably would feel bad about Kaidan though.

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Enmystic wrote...

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I don't know what my Shepard would do if this ever happened,and poor Garrus. It was more than he wanted to know.

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Someone wrote this at "Why are there no attractive male alien" thread. They discussed Thane and his former wife.

"I will be waiting across the sea...with Irikah"
This is awkward...."

Kinda a point. >_>

Anyway, I actually never realized Thane didn´t have ears. And I even studied him when I drew him. Good point, Elise!
And I love the comic. Thane can´t control hos visions? I kinda imagined it did...

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Friera wrote...

Someone wrote this at "Why are there no attractive male alien" thread. They discussed Thane and his former wife.

"I will be waiting across the sea...with Irikah"
This is awkward...."

Kinda a point. >_>

I can see how this would be awkward for some (or even many), but in the case of my Natalie Shepard, it doesn't bother her at all. She has lost loved ones in her past, just like Thane, and she believes that Thane can love both her and his wife. And when they all eventually "cross the sea", she'll think of herself and them as one big happy (dead) family.

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Has Thane said that? When? O.o When you've romanced him? Because it does sound a wee bit awkward. xD

Also why create such a thread to start with... you're just asking for trolls or angry people. It's all about your own taste...

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I don't think he says those words exactly. xD He does say that he'll be waiting across the sea (can't remember when he says this at the moment), but I'm pretty sure the "...with Irikah" part was added in.

And yeah, I don't respond to threads like that either.

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The Sarendoctrinator wrote...

I don't think he says those words exactly. xD He does say that he'll be waiting across the sea (can't remember when he says this at the moment), but I'm pretty sure the "...with Irikah" part was added in.

And yeah, I don't respond to threads like that either.


Well. the Irikah part was added by one other forum member, who belived Thane was obsession over Irikah.
That being said, I partly agree with him. Althrough I would be slightly jelaous if I where Shep. He does talk a lot about her. But you can love two people, at different time. I just I was wondering if Thane would hoping to see Irikah as well at the other side of the sea. Just found it..kinda funny, and kinda agreed on it, thats all.

We have discussed this earlier. Didn´t mean to start another discussion really.

Nerana : Have you read the letter form Thane in The Shadow Broker´s dossiers? If you romanced him - after the suicide mission. There is just a lovely heartbreaking letter from Thane to Shep. At the very end of the letter it says "I will await you across the sea".
You can read it here; http://masseffect.wi...ers/Thane_Krios

Modifié par Friera, 18 janvier 2012 - 12:44 .


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That explains why I didn't remember where I heard Thane say it... he didn't say it, I read it on the wiki.

Yeah, I imagine situations like that could be very awkward depending on who was involved. I just assume that Irikah is not a jealous type (and depending on her views, it could either add to the awkwardness or lessen it), but I could be wrong about that. The same is probably true for asari too. They could go through five partners in the same lifespan. Just think about how awkward that meeting across the sea would be. xD

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The Sarendoctrinator wrote...

That explains why I didn't remember where I heard Thane say it... he didn't say it, I read it on the wiki.

Yeah, I imagine situations like that could be very awkward depending on who was involved. I just assume that Irikah is not a jealous type (and depending on her views, it could either add to the awkwardness or lessen it), but I could be wrong about that. The same is probably true for asari too. They could go through five partners in the same lifespan. Just think about how awkward that meeting across the sea would be. xD


I guess its a good think I belive there is nothing after death XD (Which is actually very sad...)

Btw, how old are you people... ?
Im 22.

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Enmystic wrote...

TOP edit:  This is worth a repost.

*peeks in from studying and* OMG, that is worth a THOUSAND reposts! Still.. giggling... :lol: that is so deliciously naughty! 

Friera wrote...

Someone wrote this at "Why are there no attractive male alien" thread. They discussed Thane and his former wife.

"I will be waiting across the sea...with Irikah"
This is awkward...."

Kinda a point. >_>

Ugh... yeah. :/ HE NOW HAS TO LIVE. Because that is so wrong. 

This is the one thing that still really makes me sigh about Thane. I love him, but I don't feel like I know him as well as I want to (though that's partially just ME2). I still just wish they hadn't Carthed him so much. Thinking about Irikah being so good for him and so amazing to him is such a buzzkill compared to how it would've been if it were just Thane, even if he'd had a son. They could've had it not work out with her, owing to the fact that he was gone so often and she disagreed with his life choices. Imagining sex with Shepard potentially triggering memories of sex with Irikah really bothered me. It's like the epic version of calling out your ex's name in bed! 

I really hope they can make me forget that feeling in ME3. :pinched:

I'm 31. I hope that doesn't make me, like, geriatric around here. :blink:

Modifié par Wynne, 18 janvier 2012 - 01:02 .


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23.

I've read the letter from the dlc actually, just once though so I barely remember it. Won't read it now either cause it'll just depress me. :P It did sound too weird for Thane to say tho, so someone adding it afterwards in a post? I'm not very surprised.

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Wynne wrote...

Enmystic wrote...

TOP edit:  This is worth a repost.

*peeks in from studying and* OMG, that is worth a THOUSAND reposts! Still.. giggling... :lol: that is so deliciously naughty! 

Friera wrote...

Someone wrote this at "Why are there no attractive male alien" thread. They discussed Thane and his former wife.

"I will be waiting across the sea...with Irikah"
This is awkward...."

Kinda a point. >_>

Ugh... yeah. :/ HE NOW HAS TO LIVE. Because that is so wrong. 

This is the one thing that still really makes me sigh about Thane. I love him, but I don't feel like I know him as well as I want to (though that's partially just ME2). I still just wish they hadn't Carthed him so much. Thinking about Irikah being so good for him and so amazing to him is such a buzzkill compared to how it would've been if it were just Thane, even if he'd had a son. They could've had it not work out with her, owing to the fact that he was gone so often and she disagreed with his life choices. Imagining sex with Shepard potentially triggering memories of sex with Irikah really bothered me. It's like the epic version of calling out your ex's name in bed! 

I really hope they can make me forget that feeling in ME3. :pinched:

I'm 31. I hope that doesn't make me, like, geriatric around here. :blink:


Ohmygod, you are 31. Im so happy! Makes me believe I´ll still love videogames in 10 years! :D I´d stop playing videogames for about 5 years, and then I discovered Dragon Age.. And my life changed. (Or something!) 
I hope I  never stop playing.

Anyway. Well, I know with myself. I had a ex boyfriend who talked a lot of his exgirl. I HATE it. Made me feel. Less special, really. We didn´t last long (thank god).

But I also belive you can love  more than one person in different time. Its just annoys me he talks so much about her. Litterary he is talking to Shep, and looses himself in the memory of Irikah. That really annoys me. "*slaps Thane* Hey, Im sitting right in front of you, in full flesh!!!" <--- Imagine Shep should have done.

Reading Kalanel ( http://www.fanfictio...1938295/kalenel )intepetention of their relationship made me feel lot better about it though...

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Wynne wrote...

Enmystic wrote...

TOP edit:  This is worth a repost.

*peeks in from studying and* OMG, that is worth a THOUSAND reposts! Still.. giggling... :lol: that is so deliciously naughty! 

Friera wrote...

Someone wrote this at "Why are there no attractive male alien" thread. They discussed Thane and his former wife.

"I will be waiting across the sea...with Irikah"
This is awkward...."

Kinda a point. >_>

Ugh... yeah. :/ HE NOW HAS TO LIVE. Because that is so wrong. 

This is the one thing that still really makes me sigh about Thane. I love him, but I don't feel like I know him as well as I want to (though that's partially just ME2). I still just wish they hadn't Carthed him so much. Thinking about Irikah being so good for him and so amazing to him is such a buzzkill compared to how it would've been if it were just Thane, even if he'd had a son. They could've had it not work out with her, owing to the fact that he was gone so often and she disagreed with his life choices. Imagining sex with Shepard potentially triggering memories of sex with Irikah really bothered me. It's like the epic version of calling out your ex's name in bed! 

I really hope they can make me forget that feeling in ME3. :pinched:

I'm 31. I hope that doesn't make me, like, geriatric around here. :blink:

I thought I was the only one thinking that.

I don't mind that Thane had a previous relationship, even him talking about Irikah doesn't bug me.  IIRC, Thane only talks about Irikah if you ask him about her, and during another conversation he makes it clear to Shepard that she's not replacing Irikah.  Also I think it's good that Thane can be open with Shepard about his previous relationship.  Shepard is Thane's second love, but he loves her all the same.  At least I think so.   

A few pages back I mentioned that one of the reasons I liked Thane's romance is because he's mature enough to handle the situation and allows himself to love again.  He's not one of those romances that drags around the previous one. 
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Wow so many great posts!!

@Graywolf11 and Ellise - I'm on board for interrupting my LI for hugs, kisses, ass-grabbing, whatever!!  I thought that part of DA:O was a lovely touch.  And made the romance more real.Posted Image  Plus can we request that flycam view for all??  It's fantastic.

@Wynne - if 31 is geriatric, I'm in trouble.  37 here.Posted Image  

@Friera, I just logged 140+ hours on Skyrim, am working on yet ANOTHER ME2 playthrough, and played both DA:O and DA2 at least 8 times.  In fact I bought DA:O on the PC AND 360!  If you love gaming now, I don't think you'll ever outgrow it!

And that picture of Thane with his hands around his knees - so sweet!  I'm going to have to look for that on this PT.  And one of the reasons my Shep won't stay loyal to Liara isn't because I don't like her as a character, but she's not right for my Shep.  She's just spent 2 years dead, and things have changed.  Even though TIM brought her back to be the exact same person, she isn't quite.  And Thane is better suited to her.  I agree that he seems more mature and the relationship is deeper (IMO) than some of the others.  
That comic is priceless - I'm sure he "accidentally" spills info he wasn't supposed to without even realizing it!Posted Image

And here's something for all the Thane fanGIRLS from Angua33 - definitely NSFW (boys you have been warned)
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Yay, interruption in he middle of the battle to kiss Thane, count me in!

I`m 29 btw..

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@Friera--*grins* I admit, I don't play as much as I used to (I'm more selective about the games I play; Bioware games, Skyrim, etc.--only the good ones with more going for them than gameplay do it for me) but I like to think
even when I'm 80, I'll love gaming like Shepard loves alcohol. "Hell yeah! Put more of the stuff in the... thing more stuff goes in!" :lol:

I do believe you can love more than one person, too. It's just, yeah... how he talks about her, how often it is, the fact that he doesn't have enough dialogue in general (chronic ME2 problem) and the fact that being a drell, he can practically relive their whole romance! I love drell memory as a concept, but it's part of the reason I'd like to see what it's like with Feron--I was expecting Thane to be like that in the beginning, and I'm curious how it feels to be around a drell who didn't love before. I still want to see where things go with Thane, but Feron interests me, too.

P.S. Don't link me to good fanfics! I can't stop reading it! *lol*

@Enmystic--The annoying part is, if you tell Thane, "I can't replace her," he tells you you're not--but then he takes it as being "romance over"! That's kinda unfortunate. I like that they addressed it, but not that that's the breakup line.

@Cosmochyck--*lol* I don't think it is, but way back when I was 18 and could stand up without hearing these old bones creak... ;)

Also, that artwork! I am fanning myself over here! :blush:

@Graywolf11--High five, girl. :)

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I'm 21.

I really don't mind that Thane talks about Irikah. I mean of course I wish that he didn't do it at such length, but that's only because he really only had like two romantic conversations, the one where the romance was initiated, and then the repetitive, "How are you feeling" one before the suicide mission.

She was a turning point of his life and her death was probably the lowest point of his. Should he never talk about her at all? Would you never talk about a previous loved one to someone you've gotten close to?

Haven't current divorce rates shot bullet holes in the whole, "first love is the deepest" concept? If you break up with Thane and say, "I can't replace your wife," Thane replies, "You wouldn't have. It is possible to love more than once in one's lifetime."

I think the majority of people bothered by Thane's previous relationship, who wave the issue like a burning flag to explain their dislike of him, are still watching Disney movies (except the second Pochahontas, man that movie sucked) and reading really bad romance novels.

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Oh sh*t... I think I might be the oldest here... 39...40 before the release of ME3

@Friera... you're never too old for video games :D... I'm still very much the same person as I was at 21... with a little more baggage and I don't see that ever changing (will probably collect some more baggage... its unavoidable ; ). I had something like a 20 year gap in my gaming 'career' but I always knew I'd return.

I'm fine with Thane talking about Irikah, its better that he loved before than if Kolyat was the product of a one night stand or a loveless relationship. I think that 40 year old single man *should* have past loves, if they don't then one would have to wonder why?

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wildannie wrote...

Oh sh*t... I think I might be the oldest here... 39...40 before the release of ME3

@Friera... you're never too old for video games :D... I'm still very much the same person as I was at 21... with a little more baggage and I don't see that ever changing (will probably collect some more baggage... its unavoidable ; ). I had something like a 20 year gap in my gaming 'career' but I always knew I'd return.

I'm fine with Thane talking about Irikah, its better that he loved before than if Kolyat was the product of a one night stand or a loveless relationship. I think that 40 year old single man *should* have past loves, if they don't then one would have to wonder why?


And besides, there's already several characters that have the whole "never shown their face to anyone"/never-had-a meaningful-relationship-before thing going for them.

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I don't find it akward at all because in the after life it won't matter. I don't know why some people have such a problem with the fact that Thane loved someone before Shepard. Shepard can't be evey LI's first love. Why does any of that matter. He only talks about Irikah because Shepard asks. To me whe he does talk about her he doesn't sound like a man who is still inlove with his dead wife. He sound like a man who is finaly letting go. If it wasn't for her he probably wouldn' tknow how to be in a relationship at all. No

In ME1 Kaidan talks about his first love and it doesn't seem to be a big deal for people, but Thane being married seems to be a problem for some. I really don't get it.

Thane is also 39. I would be more surpised if a man his age had never had a serious relationship..
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I don't mind Thane being married at all, like you're saying, with his age, most people will have had a relationship. I really love his line regarding "You can love more than once" because it's true.

The only thing confusing me was the thing with "I'll wait across the sea... with Irikah." because it sounded very odd for Thane to say. O.o But it was someone adding that in the forums. Even so, it wouldn't matter in after life, cause everyone has their own idea of how that'd be.

I guess people reason the same like they do with Thane's dying matter. "He should die, Thane is supposed to die, don't take his death away from him!" Just because they only saw one side of him.

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I like that he talks about Irikah. It makes Shep special in a way, that he could fall in love with her in spite of everything in his past.  

We don't know alot about Thane, but I think we can safely assume that he wouldn't enter a relationship with Shepard if he didn't feel strongly about her. He doesn't seem the type to bother if that wasn't the case. Also, I'm sure as hell he wasn't expecting it to turn out this way when they first met, I like that. :)

That being said, I hope we're past these dead wife/son/past life conversations in ME3, I want to get to know him better.

About the "I will await you across the sea" bit, assuming there even is an afterlife, Shep will probably have found someone else too by the time she dies so...Gah, how depressing. But that's assuming the after-life even works the way we think it does, it probably won't, which makes it a non-issue. We'll cross that bridge when we get there, I guess. ;p

I don't believe that you stop loving someone after they die, I think Thane is still in love with Irikah, but she's dead, he knows it and he let go. His willingness to enter a relationship with Shep is a testament to that, he's not the kind of guy who'd take this cr@p lightly.

@Enmystic:  That is comic gold! xD

@Cosmochyck: Oh...<3Angua never fails to make me swoon.

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Asenza wrote...




And besides, there's already several characters that have the whole "never shown their face to anyone"/never-had-a meaningful-relationship-before thing going for them.


That´s true. Thanes love is different than the other ME love as far as I´ve seen.

I was just wondering after reading that funny drell memory with Garrus - Can´t Thane control his memoriesflashes? Since they keep poping up. If not, the scene in the comic could actually happend XD 

Ellise : Yeah, Id like to get to know him better as well in ME3! And more about how he feels about Shep, except that he loves her.  But I have a feeling we wont really get much romance scenes with him. Considering there where so few when he was a squadmember...

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Thane never once said "I'll await you across the sea with Irikah". who ever said that was just trying to be funny, and they failed, because Thane would never say that.

I don't expect to hear anything about her in ME3. Maybe from Kolyat, but that wouldn't bother me because she is his mother.

I just think people who don't like it really have an issue with the fact that he loved someone before Shepard. He had a life before Shepard. Shepard can't be everybodys one and only love.