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[JECWSU]

In her post she says she has a issue with the fact that he gave shepard the same nickname. We are saying that we don't believe he did. We know he considers them both siha's. What I'm a saying is I don't believe he called Irikah that.

Asenza wrote...


DOES HE DRINK HOT CHOCOLATE OR IS IT COFFEE OR GREEN TEA IN THAT CUP?!

I've said it before that I think it's green tea or some kind of tea. There is a picture of Shepard and Thane with hot chocolat. I know Tasha can find that lovely picture

Modifié par JECWSU, 18 janvier 2012 - 09:41 .

[Graywolf11]

What about "I found another Siha"?
Edit: Nevermind  Must not keep the window open, you guys are too quick to respond 
 YAY 200 page, we need pictures! Hot ones!!!

Modifié par Graywolf11, 18 janvier 2012 - 09:46 .

[JECWSU]

Graywolf11 wrote...

What about "I found another Siha"?

 "I met another siha". 
That doesn't mean he called her siha.

Modifié par JECWSU, 18 janvier 2012 - 09:47 .

[JECWSU]

Graywolf11 wrote...

What about "I found another Siha"?
Edit: Nevermind  Must not keep the window open, you guys are too quick to respond 
 YAY 200 page, we need pictures! Hot ones!!!

I still can't find the hot chocolate one.

[Graywolf11]

[Friera]

Wynne wrote...

I do think Thane can/will move on. It's just, the characteristics they chose, added to how short the romance was, added to the fact that his has been done before for male romance options, but NOT EVER for a female (correct me if I'm wrong and there is a dead perfect husband and angsty teenage daughter somewhere)...

It's a double standard. A weird one. An unpleasant one. It's okay for a male LI, but not for a female one, to have already had a first "love of one's life." That makes it feel borderline insulting/sexist to me, that men are allowed to have pasts and be viewed as mature, but not women. David Gaider once said it's unrealistic to expect an LI to not have a past. Well, sure it is, I agree with that statement--but where are the women with the Carth/Sky/Thane backstory, then? I don't want an LI without a past--but does it always have to include a sweeping romance with a dead woman that still haunts him to this day? Can't it ever just be a divorce? I wouldn't see that character as some kind of failure, especially not if they were still friends or if she cheated on him and was a flake. Why must she always be the perfect love of his life who's dead?

Admittedly, at least with Thane we have a character who isn't torn and pining, just reflecting sadly on what he once had. There's room to build, to keep going. That's not bad. If you can't be in a new category to him, at least you're siha #2. But some of the things do give me little twinges like that... the fact that he gives Shepard the same pet name as Irikah instead of one unique to Shepard, however flattering and lovely the name might be. I get that he's saying you're her equal, but it doesn't quite spell out that you're a new chapter in his life. I think the clearer that is, the better, and though it's done pretty well I think it still could've been a bit better executed.

Just to be clear, I don't blame this on Thane, of course not--it's just, it made him less fun than he should've been for me personally. I really hope ME3 will be about him and Shepard; let us see more of who he is.

That's what I want. The focus on the character, and yes the past is part of that, but--under the circumstances, I find the implications distract me from the actual plotline and character. Even more so when there's so little dialogue, and thus the family conversations feel like a whole lot of the romance.

I just want ME3's Thane content to be about Thane and Shepard. I don't want him to suppress things, I just want the focus to be on them this time. Maybe Kolyat a little, too. If Irikah is mentioned, I want it to be in the context of, "I remember her fondly, but I've moved on." No more sunset-colored eyes, just Thane and Shepard gazing up at the pyramids with a smile. That's my desire.

Well said. A joy to read!

I was just wondering if anyone know where I can see these pics with higher resolution? They hare frickin awesome... http://www.walls360....hics-s/2291.htm
(Strange seeing Thanes mounth wide open.)

[Graceyn]

Hi Thane fans   Thane is definitely one of my favorite ME2 team members; I love his soulfulness.

So I have an in-progress femShep fic that covers the entirety of ME1 and ME2 (plus her backstory in the beginning).  For the ME2 story, each team member gets their own chapter, written in the form of a series of Journal entries by Shepard over the course of the story (up to the Omega 4 Relay).  The newest chapter is Thane, and I thought some of you might enjoy it.  Truthfully, out of 37 chapters, this turned out to be one of my very favorite: If It Meant Living-37: Thane  / Alt. Deviant Art Link.

For each chapter I also do screenshot manips to go with the story.  Here is the one for this chapter:

Assassin




Also, here is one I did of Thane a little while back:

Prayer for the Wicked



Thank you for your time .

[Friera]

Ellise wrote...

Friera wrote...

I was just wondering if anyone know where I can see these pics with higher resolution? They hare frickin awesome... http://www.walls360....hics-s/2291.htm
(Strange seeing Thanes mounth wide open.)

I laughed when I saw the M-5 Phalanx in his hand, my Shep swears by that thing. Best.pistol.ever.

They are awesome. I know I have a 1080p wallpaper of the Thane one...So hi-res versions do exist. I'd try a quick google search. You could also look for wallpaper versions on deviantart if all else fails.

I´ve tried a google search. Not sure what to google to get those pics.. Only small ones come up.
Any idea where to get them? Or what so search?

[Asenza]

@Friera,

Ohh, you killed the thread!

Two hundred pages, it was a good run.

Modifié par Asenza, 18 janvier 2012 - 11:58 .

[Graywolf11]

Welcome Graceyn!
World definately needs more Thane fics!
And I think I just found a new favourite picture-the upper one..mmmm

Modifié par Graywolf11, 18 janvier 2012 - 11:51 .

[Graceyn]

Graywolf11 wrote...

Welcome Graceyn!
World definately needs more Thane fics!
And I think I just found a new favourite picture-the upper one..mmmm

I'm glad you like it .  I was happy with how it turned out!

[The Sarendoctrinator]

You guys added three pages?  I was only gone for 12 hours! Super catch-up post... incoming!

Wynne wrote...

Imagining sex with Shepard potentially triggering memories of sex with Irikah really bothered me. It's like the epic version of calling out your ex's name in bed!

Okay, that would be extremely awkward. But hilarious. A bit sad for my poor Shepard though.

wildannie wrote...

I'm fine with Thane talking about Irikah, its better that he loved before than if Kolyat was the product of a one night stand or a loveless relationship. I think that 40 year old single man *should* have past loves, if they don't then one would have to wonder why?

It would be understandable if Thane, being an assassin since he was very young, didn't want to bring a serious relationship into his dangerous lifestyle. He took a huge risk with Irikah and Kolyat, and a lot of people in his position probably wouldn't have tried to have a family, but that's another one of the things I find so interesting about his character. 

Also, I agree that it's better with Kolyat being born to someone he loved. It makes his history much more emotional.

Ellise wrote...

About the "I will await you across the sea" bit, assuming there even is an afterlife, Shep will probably have found someone else too by the time she dies so...Gah, how depressing. But that's assuming the after-life even works the way we think it does, it probably won't, which makes it a non-issue. We'll cross that bridge when we get there, I guess. ;p

I don't believe that you stop loving someone after they die, I think Thane is still in love with Irikah, but she's dead, he knows it and he let go. His willingness to enter a relationship with Shep is a testament to that, he's not the kind of guy who'd take this cr@p lightly.

I agree with all of this. My Natalie Shepard is also the type who would eventually find someone else if Thane dies, although it would be years before she started looking. She thinks they'll all be like family when the time comes - Thane, Irikah, Kolyat, herself and whatever family she ends up with in the future, lost loves and close friends included. She's just an optimist about this sort of thing, I guess.

JECWSU wrote...

Does anyone think Thane would ever marry again? Would your Shepard even want to get married?

I'm sure he would be unlikely to do this if he would leave Shepard a widow after a few months, but if Thane was cured or could have his life prolonged for a good amount of years, I think it's a possibility. Natalie Shepard would definitely marry him if he asked, but it wouldn't be a deal-breaker if he didn't. She just wants to spend as much time as she can with the people she loves.

Asenza wrote...

On a rather separate note, I am a bit saddened at the lack of diversity when it comes to things like pairing and marriage in the ME universe. No polyandry or societies less-centered on the traditional nuclear family unit. No societies where the males and females only come together to procreate and the men raise the children and the women wander off... there are a ridiculous number of variations in nature on Earth, but we barely see anything different in space. You mean to tell me that an Asari, who can live for hundreds of years, never found two or three people at one time interesting enough to form a group with?

That's true, most of the alien species seem to have very human-like views in regards to that sort of thing, but the salarians are quite different.

Mass Effect Wiki says...


Due to their method of reproduction, salarians have no concept of romantic love, sexual attraction, or the biological impulses and social rituals that complicate other species' lives. Male-female relationships are rare (due to the scarcity of females) and more akin to human friendship. Sexuality is strictly for the purpose of reproduction. Ancient social codes determine who gets to fertilize eggs, which produces more daughters to continue the bloodline. Fertilization generally only occurs after months of negotiation between the parents' clans, and is done for purposes of political and dynastic alliance. No salarian would imagine defying this code.

Sounds more like a business deal to me. xD

Nerana wrote...

How many here will play the demo? (if it's available to everyone) I'll stay away from it personally, don't want more spoilers or more teasers. D:

I won't be playng the demo (no online connection to the Xbox), but if there are spoilers, I'll read about them here on BSN. I'm reading every spoiler I can find.

JECWSU wrote...

After everything is taken care of with the Reapers they would go to Shepards apartment or some other planet. Maybe they would just travel around the galaxy. My Shepard doesn't want to retire yet, but she would love to take Than on that desert vacation.

Same here, my Shep's not the type to retire, but a well-deserved vacation after the Reapers are dealt with would be nice. Of course, she'd want to be around for a while to repair their broken worlds, but as soon as things are running smoothly again, she (and Thane) could use some relaxation.

Wynne wrote...

I do think Thane can/will move on. It's just, the characteristics they chose, added to how short the romance was, added to the fact that his has been done before for male romance options, but NOT EVER for a female (correct me if I'm wrong and there is a dead perfect husband and angsty teenage daughter somewhere)...

Not sure about the "daughter" part, but from what I've read about Baldur's Gate, Jaheira had a husband who died before the second game, and can start a relationship with a male PC. I've not played the game yet to know any details about her husband though.

Asenza wrote...

Far more about Thane would be nice. Why doesn't he have more murder stories? He wouldn't delight in them, like Zaeed, but he should have a few anecdotes, at least. He should talk about his early-childhood training, or living on Kahje. Does he keep in contact with his parents, or is it not expected of one given up for The Compact? Does he only read poetry or does he have a weakness for historicals or plays?

I would love to find out this kind of information about Thane. The assassin lifestyle is just so interesting to me, and so is Thane's whole attitude about it, plus the cultural differences (drell/hanar in comparison to human).

[JECWSU]

Graceyn wrote...

Hi Thane fans   Thane is definitely one of my favorite ME2 team members; I love his soulfulness.

So I have an in-progress femShep fic that covers the entirety of ME1 and ME2 (plus her backstory in the beginning).  For the ME2 story, each team member gets their own chapter, written in the form of a series of Journal entries by Shepard over the course of the story (up to the Omega 4 Relay).  The newest chapter is Thane, and I thought some of you might enjoy it.  Truthfully, out of 37 chapters, this turned out to be one of my very favorite: If It Meant Living-37: Thane  / Alt. Deviant Art Link.

For each chapter I also do screenshot manips to go with the story.  Here is the one for this chapter:

Assassin

I enjoyed reading this.
Thank you for sharing it with us.

[Graceyn]

Ellise wrote...

/snip

I don't mean to embarrass you by quoting, but this part was lovely. It felt like a conversation he and my own Shep would have had.  

I loved it, thank you for stopping by and sharing it with us.

Thank you so much .  I'm glad you felt a personal connection to the story - it is very fulfilling whenever I hear that.  As I said, this is one of my favorite chapters I've written, I am happy to share it


@JECWSU: I'm glad you enjoyed it!

Modifié par Graceyn, 19 janvier 2012 - 02:09 .

[Asenza]

The Sarendoctrinator wrote...

Asenza wrote...

On a rather separate note, I am a bit saddened at the lack of diversity when it comes to things like pairing and marriage in the ME universe. No polyandry or societies less-centered on the traditional nuclear family unit. No societies where the males and females only come together to procreate and the men raise the children and the women wander off... there are a ridiculous number of variations in nature on Earth, but we barely see anything different in space. You mean to tell me that an Asari, who can live for hundreds of years, never found two or three people at one time interesting enough to form a group with?

That's true, most of the alien species seem to have very human-like views in regards to that sort of thing, but the salarians are quite different.

Mass Effect Wiki says...


Due to their method of reproduction, salarians have no concept of romantic love, sexual attraction, or the biological impulses and social rituals that complicate other species' lives. Male-female relationships are rare (due to the scarcity of females) and more akin to human friendship. Sexuality is strictly for the purpose of reproduction. Ancient social codes determine who gets to fertilize eggs, which produces more daughters to continue the bloodline. Fertilization generally only occurs after months of negotiation between the parents' clans, and is done for purposes of political and dynastic alliance. No salarian would imagine defying this code.

Sounds more like a business deal to me. xD

Oh sure, but the Salarians seem to be the exception. And in fact, there was an Asari/Salarian pairing on Illium if I remember correctly.

Everyone else though... no reversed gender roles or different family structures. The closest thing to it is the Krogan Male/Female camps on Tuchanka, but again, that's the exception, not the rule. It's like the Krogan and Salarians have a monopoly on differences, and everyone else has to conform to modern norms.

Modifié par Asenza, 19 janvier 2012 - 02:11 .

[The Sarendoctrinator]

Asenza wrote...

Oh sure, but the Salarians seem to be the exception. And in fact, there was an Asari/Salarian pairing on Illium if I remember correctly.

Everyone else though... no reversed gender roles or different family structures. The closest thing to it is the Krogan Male/Female camps on Tuchanka, but again, that's the exception, not the rule. It's like the Krogan and Salarians have a monopoly on differences, and everyone else has to conform to modern norms.

Perhaps the reason is because some of these aliens needed to be love interests for our human Shepards? I know it wasn't the case with Garrus and Tali in ME1, but Liara and Thane were designed to be appealing romantic options for Shepard, and they might have thought that making their relationship standards too "strange" (as humans would see them) would be too akward for a wide variety of people to want to play out. Would as many people get into a romance knowing that their Shepard will just be one of many partners to their LI, or if they had to deal with customs that are completely different from the way we humans view relationships? It's probably just safer to go the more "human" route.

I have no idea if that's the real reason. It's just a guess, considering the fact that the species whose relationships are the most different are also less human-like in appearance.

[The Love Runner]

Thane: "Let us rejoice for having reached the 200th step of a glorious horizon."

Side note: Any word on a cure for his condition?

[The Sarendoctrinator]

As far as I know, none of the spoilers have given any information about a cure. I know the information I saw was incomplete (mostly focused on romances and other character interactions, rather than plot points), but I'm sure I would have seen some mention of it if anyone else found out.

[mythlover20]

Okay, massive retroactive catch-up post starting from page 196 (this is going to happen every wednesday, isn't it?)

1. I imagine Kaidan would be the same as he is on Horizon, at least at first. I hope he will 'grow up' by the end, and that he will accept it. But I imagine a massive argument with Shepard and cold, tense silences with Thane, eventually culminating in the "move on" ultimatium. It won't happen that way, and I know that, but I'm in the mood for some drama right about now.

Asenza wrote...

JECWSU wrote...

I did notice that. What she says about everyone else is actually pretty funny, and whe she rolls her eyes when taking about Miranda's outfit made me laugh. I thought what she says about Thane was just plain cruel.

Oh, I don't think I ever heard what she said about Miranda. What did she say?

Tali "...Yes you came back, and now you can't wait to get under Tali's helmet." (More than just her helmet, but ok..)
Jacob "...and now you're more interested in seeing Jacob... with his shirt off." (Who wouldn't? You could grind rocks on those!)
Jack "...and now you're more interested in a tatooed woman with anger issues." (Actually... meh. That was just meh.)
Garrus "...and now Garrus is doing a lot more than calibrating the Normandy's guns." (Ha ha, very funny.)
Samara "..and now you're with a Justicar far more beautiful and interesting than I"  (Ok, sadly not.)
Thane "... and now you're trying to take the place of a dying man's wife." (Whaaa?!)

It's just particularly spiteful, is all.

I could think of loads of worse things to say about Tali or Garrus, Jacob and Jack.
 

I was NOT happy with Liara when I saw that on YouTube, cause I cheated on Kaiden for my Thane PT. And yeah, she was being spiteful. The facepalm immediately after did not mitigate my desire to break her nose.

@Saren, yeah you're right. They have to be biotic fish. No matter what happens, they always die on me. And I think maybe I should do that dead Kaidan for Thane as well, just to see what Ash's response would be.
@Cosmochyck: Fenris and Thane are just as irresistible as each other. I love both of them.

android654 wrote...

Just found this and thought you guys would enjoy it.

Oh dear gods no.

Graywolf11 wrote...

And I haven`t noticed but did you guys
saw that letter witch arrived about the time you get Thane in your
crew? Somewhat like an add- to Enkindlers "church"..I can`t recall what
it said exactly but something about curing Keprals and drell lying in
the water. I had another wtf moment right there.

Yeah, like Asenza said, it was junk mail. And having you mentioned it reminded me of a fanfic where FemShep recieved on of the eh, "male bodily enhancement" emails saying that someone thought she was "too small" and offering to "enhance" her, and she forwarded it on to TIM.

@Saren - again. Alistair's dog in Darkspawn Chronicles? You mean Barkspawn? Gods I love that name! And Ellise: I can't believe I forgot that Herron is a desire demon! Thanks for reminding me. And thanks for explaining Thane's ears. I thought  his ear holes (that's what I imagined, small holes like a bird's for some reason) would have been hidden behind his frills or something.
@Greywolf11: I want random hug interrupts! Please Bioware! Please say you've put some in! (Oh, wait a minute, just read Ellise's response. All three random Hug, Kiss, Shag Interrupts for ME3!!!)

[The Sarendoctrinator]

Well, even though I haven't read Kaidan's response to Thane, I have read his response to Jacob, and... [very minor spoilers?] he doesn't argue with Shepard or blame her, just accepts it. I can't imagine him being completely different with his reaction to Thane. [/very minor spoiler]

And I am determined to make my fish survive at least one playthrough. They'll be returning in ME3, so we'll see how that goes. Oh, I'll get distracted by the Reaper war and lose them all. XP

@Arcian: Great comic. xD I wonder if any other squadmates in existence could fit that description Shep gave in the last panel.

Modifié par The Sarendoctrinator, 19 janvier 2012 - 09:19 .