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#5576
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Really liked THE femShep trailer. Now go make some more, Bioware. What, you thought we'd be satisfied with a bone after MaleShep got a four-course meal?

New default looks good. Overall I really liked the trailer- was so happy to see Jacob and Samara (especially, especially Samara, with that gorgeous backdrop), if even for a few seconds. My thought was, "Wow, so they do remember Mass Effect 2 happened!"

Sad about no Thane. I'm surprised that Jacob, Samara and Miranda were in. Kinda makes it hurt a bit more because seeing as Jacob, Samara and Miranda are ME2 only characters, Thane would have fit in nicely- it would have also made the human/alien scale even.


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The game comes out in three weeks so I don't know if we will see Thane before then. I don't know if they plan on doing any more trailers and I know he won't be in the demo. I really hope they haven't forgotten about Thane.

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JECWSU wrote...

The game comes out in three weeks so I don't know if we will see Thane before then. I don't know if they plan on doing any more trailers and I know he won't be in the demo. I really hope they haven't forgotten about Thane.


Lets get cold and calculating about it then.

They spent a good bit of money and time making him. Consigning him to oblivion would be a waste.

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Asenza wrote...

JECWSU wrote...

The game comes out in three weeks so I don't know if we will see Thane before then. I don't know if they plan on doing any more trailers and I know he won't be in the demo. I really hope they haven't forgotten about Thane.


Lets get cold and calculating about it then.

They spent a good bit of money and time making him. Consigning him to oblivion would be a waste.


It would also be stupid.
Still hoping to see something. If not the game will be out soon enough.

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I still hope they plan something great with Thane and just want to torture us with him being absend in all that official stuff.
And now I go and send some prayers to Arashu and all the other gods. ;-)

@Asenza: What a wonderful picture of Thane! Thank you for sharing!

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 Would you like some ME 3 Thane? I have some and it's a really good fan trailer too. The Mass Effect 3 bits start at 2:45.

www.youtube.com/watch

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Thane is (I guess) the only character who can die beyond failure in the suicide mission and the only one basically sure to be dead 12 months after ME2. Sure, anyone else can die but they don't have their death set.

Bioware know this and I'm sure they'll make use of it. By keeping him as hidden as possible. For various reasons.

Like Asenza said; he's a character they worked a lot on. I can't see them toss him away with barely *anything*. Wasn't it a rumour that ME3 is placed 2 months after ME2? So Thane shouldn't be dead from his disease or die from it at all (Unless ME3 expands over a very long time)

Don't get me wrong, I'm preparing for the worst, even though I don't want to. I've always been the type who's rather pleasantly surprised than disappointed. But at the same time I can't help but be hopeful.

In a perfect world; all characters in ME3 should have equal chance of dying and living. It'll be most fair and frustrate less people. Just as that you can make through the suicide mission with everyone alive. It's your choice!

Making certain important characters forced to sacrifice themselves with no choice of who would fit a game like ME very badly... It's one thing to force Shepard to chose between two squadmembers, it's another to not get the choice at all and someone just dies.

Unless they do a ME1 and force you to pick between Thane and Garrus. I'd have trouble with that on either playthrough. xD

Sorry for the rant, I'm just trying to convince myself.

Modifié par Nerana, 10 février 2012 - 08:31 .


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Eliza wrote...

I still hope they plan something great with Thane and just want to torture us with him being absend in all that official stuff.
And now I go and send some prayers to Arashu and all the other gods. ;-)

@Asenza: What a wonderful picture of Thane! Thank you for sharing!


I hope you are right.

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I don't imagine Thane's outcome will be all that great, then again I thought that going into it. Is it a bit disappointing, being pretty sure BW isn't going to offer us a way to save Thane? Yeah, but that doesn't really change anything. Anyone know the numbers on how many people romanced him in the game? I know the figures are out there somewhere...

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I agree that they spent quite a bit of time developing him, and he was a large part of ME2 marketing. I doubt they would just throw him away!

Let's hope Hanar's banner for "the cure" was looked at daily and they give us an option. At this point, I'd take anything about Thane. Heck, I'll even use his line - It's difficult, all things worth keeping are.

I'm thinking that Bioware has been VERY careful to make sure that information is not leaked - this is the last of the trilogy and will wrap up Shepard's story. And they have definitely marketed it to be EPIC so they have a lot riding on this. There may be more games in the Mass Effect uni, but this is it for Shep.

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OMTING52601 wrote...

I don't imagine Thane's outcome will be all that great, then again I thought that going into it. Is it a bit disappointing, being pretty sure BW isn't going to offer us a way to save Thane? Yeah, but that doesn't really change anything. Anyone know the numbers on how many people romanced him in the game? I know the figures are out there somewhere...


I'll be pretty pissed off (understatement) if there's no way to cure Thane, it's bad enough that it seems I'm going to be stuck with a fairly unlikely squad for my Shepards, if I can't even have the option to save Thane I'll be ******' raging.  I need to be able to make these kinds of choices in Mass Effect, it's what I love about it.

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I totally go with you, wildannie. I want to have a choice, it should be Shepard who has it in her hand what fate Thane is going to have.
What I always had in mind since my first ME 2 run was, that maybe you can decide in ME 3 to go for a cure or new antibiotics (maybe the Quarians can help out with this issue?), but that mission will make it harder or impossible to get something else important fixed.

But if there is no cure and BW really wants to let Thane die in ME 3, I hope his end will be tragic and epic at the same time ... i. e. giving his life to save Shepard, since he will die anyway.
Or, to give it an even more dramatic touch: Thane has been cured, but sacrifices his life for Shepard, telling his Siha with his last breath that they will see each other on the other side of the sea one day her soul leaves her body.

What I am also wondering about are the consequences it will have if you romanced someone else in the first game. Nothing heard about that so far.

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I agree, and I will be more than pissed if they take that choice away from us.

I personly don't think the consequences will be that great if LotSB was any indication. Liara was upset and then she got over it. I have one playthrough were my shepard left Kaidan for Thane so I want I am curious to see what happens.

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But if there is no cure and BW really wants to let Thane die in ME 3, I hope his end will be tragic and epic at the same time ... i. e. giving his life to save Shepard, since he will die anyway.
Or, to give it an even more dramatic touch: Thane has been cured, but sacrifices his life for Shepard, telling his Siha with his last breath that they will see each other on the other side of the sea one day her soul leaves her body.


While I know this is better than some "dying in a hospital bed" or heaven forbid, off screen, this kind of thing would still ****** me off some immensely. Because I still didn't get to make the choice. Sure, I'd prefer an epic death than anything else but... ooof.. D:

But curing him and THEN killing him off anyway? I don't know what I'd do it they did that. I'd probably drop the playthrough right there and head to the Garrus one cause I bet his would end ten times better. And be very annoyed with Bioware forever after that, because that's just cruel.

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[quote]Nerana wrote...

[quote]But curing him and THEN killing him off anyway? I don't know what I'd do it they did that. I'd probably drop the playthrough right there and head to the Garrus one cause I bet his would end ten times better. And be very annoyed with Bioware forever after that, because that's just cruel.
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That would be very cruel, I know - and so I am sure that is happens only in my badest dreams and not in the game.
Come on, BW may have some bad news for us about Thane in the game - but not that bad ones.;)

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Yeah, I hope so. Temporary lack of trust there, I apologize.

Don't make me regret saying that, Bioware! D:

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The thing that worries me is that they seem to have tossed aside the entire ME2 squad (minus Tali and Garrus). They put a lot of work into all of those characters but it feels more and more like they've been pushed aside in favor of new squadmembers mixed with old squaddies from the first game.

Where does that leave Thane and the rest of the jilted ME2 squad? How they handle these characters will likely not be equal. There's too many of them and depending on how the suicide mission played out they could be dead. That makes it harder to work them into the story in a meaningful way. I'm just so worried about Thane. I wish Bioware would do something to show they haven't forgotten him.

I really hope he can be cured because I hate the thought of his death being a forced event. How can these characters live in a universe in which someone can be brought back from the dead but they can't cure a lung disease? His LoTSB file said he was eligible for a transplant. Why not expand on that? All we're asking for is a choice. I don't think that's too much to ask for. :/

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Eliza wrote...

I totally go with you, wildannie. I want to have a choice, it should be Shepard who has it in her hand what fate Thane is going to have.
What I always had in mind since my first ME 2 run was, that maybe you can decide in ME 3 to go for a cure or new antibiotics (maybe the Quarians can help out with this issue?), but that mission will make it harder or impossible to get something else important fixed.

But if there is no cure and BW really wants to let Thane die in ME 3, I hope his end will be tragic and epic at the same time ... i. e. giving his life to save Shepard, since he will die anyway. 
Or, to give it an even more dramatic touch: Thane has been cured, but sacrifices his life for Shepard, telling his Siha with his last breath that they will see each other on the other side of the sea one day her soul leaves her body.


What I am also wondering about are the consequences it will have if you romanced someone else in the first game. Nothing heard about that so far.


That wouldn't be any consolation to me, romanced Thane dying is never going to be good imo.  Is he going to be waiting across the sea with Irikah?? how awkward :blush:.  Alternatively, if he's going across the sea to be with Irikah it belittles the relationship he had with Shepard <_<.   If there had never been an Irikah his dying as a LI wouldn't be as bad because it would be easier to believe that he would be waiting across the sea for Shepard and this could work with an Ultimate Sacrifice ending but the Irikah factor throws doubt and uncertainty over that.

I don't think there are going to be many consequences for 'cheating', which is kind of good as there was no established relationship when Shep died (dialogue suggests they only had the pre Ilos encounter).  For Kaidan to flip out over Thane would be a bit ...over possessive / creepy.  He should be sad but he should be man enough to take it with dignity. :P

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Ah, sorry, I totally forgot about Irikah maybe waiting for Thane :crying:... that makes things a little bit more complicated, I guess. Hm, but maybe she found someone else in the meantime ... well, she's across the sea for over 10 years now and a very attractive drell woman, I guess ... and who knows, maybe she is very angry about Thane leaving her alone too long when he made his "business trips" and doesn't want him back after all ... (just kidding, girls, just kidding ... don't take me to serious tonight:P).


I hope Kaidan will be very upset when finds out about Thane and Shepard ... I really would like to see him jealous like hell:D.

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Eliza wrote...

Ah, sorry, I totally forgot about Irikah maybe waiting for Thane :crying:... that makes things a little bit more complicated, I guess. Hm, but maybe she found someone else in the meantime ... well, she's across the sea for over 10 years now and a very attractive drell woman, I guess ... and who knows, maybe she is very angry about Thane leaving her alone too long when he made his "business trips" and doesn't want him back after all ... (just kidding, girls, just kidding ... don't take me to serious tonight:P).


I hope Kaidan will be very upset when finds out about Thane and Shepard ... I really would like to see him jealous like hell:D.


Although I think Kaidan getting very upset wouldn't really fit the relationship I would very much enjoy seeing it too:D

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Juliaxo wrote...

The thing that worries me is that they seem to have tossed aside the entire ME2 squad (minus Tali and Garrus). They put a lot of work into all of those characters but it feels more and more like they've been pushed aside in favor of new squadmembers mixed with old squaddies from the first game.

Where does that leave Thane and the rest of the jilted ME2 squad? How they handle these characters will likely not be equal. There's too many of them and depending on how the suicide mission played out they could be dead. That makes it harder to work them into the story in a meaningful way. I'm just so worried about Thane. I wish Bioware would do something to show they haven't forgotten him.

I really hope he can be cured because I hate the thought of his death being a forced event. How can these characters live in a universe in which someone can be brought back from the dead but they can't cure a lung disease? His LoTSB file said he was eligible for a transplant. Why not expand on that? All we're asking for is a choice. I don't think that's too much to ask for. :/



I honeslty don't know what's wrong with Bioware. If they can manage to work in a story for Tali and Garrus then they should have been able to do it for the rest of them. 
No one asked them to give us so a twelve member team, and the suicide mission was their bright idea. Now that they realize it might not have been the best thing, so the ME2 squad and their fans have to suffer for it.

Honeslty I have no idea what they are going to do with Thane. I don't really trust Bioware, and I dont have much faith left in them. I just don't even know if they care anymore.

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Eliza wrote...

Ah, sorry, I totally forgot about Irikah maybe waiting for Thane :crying:... that makes things a little bit more complicated, I guess. Hm, but maybe she found someone else in the meantime ... well, she's across the sea for over 10 years now and a very attractive drell woman, I guess ... and who knows, maybe she is very angry about Thane leaving her alone too long when he made his "business trips" and doesn't want him back after all ... (just kidding, girls, just kidding ... don't take me to serious tonight:P).


I hope Kaidan will be very upset when finds out about Thane and Shepard ... I really would like to see him jealous like hell:D.


Irikah might be waiting for Thane, and she might not. I don't think it will matter because in the afterlife there is no jealousy or awkwardness. I don't think my shepard would worry about that at all, and I don't think Thane does either.

Kaidan will probably be a little upset and hurt, but he will get over it.
He still has that doctor, and in another playthrough he has another of my shepards.

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Sorry to kind of sidetrack off the whole "ME2 Team" thing, I totally agree with you guys about how they've kinda pushed aside developed characters but I'm watching Hellboy for the first time ever, it's a pretty good movie so far.

But I swear Bioware got Thane's appearance idea from "Abe" in that film. Seriously.
http://upload.wikime...0px-Abesap2.jpg

Look familiar to anyone? :P

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I think Thane is closely tied to some major quest, at least I`m hoping for. My ideal headcanon would be- Shepard helping Thane find cure for Keprals. It would be hard and long mission with lots of dialogue and cuddling with him and so on. Then Shep leaves to save the galaxy, when everything`s done, she meets him in some beautiful location, wearing flowing (yellow) dress, holding hands blah-blah. He has been cured now, received an implant (cause let`s face it-I don`t think his one lung is functional anymore) and they can live happily ever after...
Yeah, that would be nice.

Modifié par Graywolf11, 10 février 2012 - 11:22 .


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Damn you internet..
double post sry
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Modifié par Graywolf11, 10 février 2012 - 11:21 .