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Well, BioWare haven't really given us much to be happy about...
I can't feel too badly for the writers when it seems like they never planned out where each character's storyarc was going. Why create so many love interests, allow players to get attached, only to reduce them to bit parts at the end of the trilogy? It seems like sloppy writing and planning on their part. And knowing they already had so many established characters to write for, did not stop them from creating completely new characters to add to the pile.

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What bothers me about Thane is that, unlike most of the rest of the ME2 exclusives, Thane's the only one with a death clock over his head.

If Shepard has been incarcerated for X amount of time when the game starts, has she been able to get in contact with him, and he, her? Depending on how the game progresses and how long it is until she can reunite with him, unless some sort of cure/life-prolonging thing has happened to Thane, there is really no way that the conclusion to this romance can be in any way satisfactorily concluded if Thane is dying somewhere and one contrived reason after another is thrown in the way to keep Shepard away.

And yes, I understand that the galaxy is at war, Shepard has sh** to do, but seeing as ME3 is supposed to be a bit like World War 2, with some places fighting and others out of the action, I don't see how it would be unreasonable to hit up (or at least attempt to) old squadmates that might be in danger's path.

I don't know what excuse they might give for the other LI's for their separation from Shepard but with Thane, a total lack of communication between the two of them, given his condition would be disturbing and bizarre.


This. So much.

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At this rate I think we have gone through every possible scenario. Many of them look grim too. >.<

Poor visitors to this thead, it's so negative. xD And with good reasons, I fear. I just wish they'd say anything about Thane. Even a screenshot would be nice now...


Oh, the things I'd do for a screenshot...

I was pausing the FemShep trailer every half a second, hoping to catch him or Jack- was glad to see Samara because the only one I felt as depressed about after Thane was her and Jacob, and there they were.

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Concerning the artbook:

could you please scan any pages on thane? :3

Will do! Though they’re from the ME2 section. There was no Thane ME3 art.


D:

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Juliaxo wrote...

Concerning the artbook:

could you please scan any pages on thane? :3

Will do! Though they’re from the ME2 section. There was no Thane ME3 art.


D:


I have the artbook but there's not ME3 art on anyone ME2 Exclusive really save Ashley, Kaidan and Vega.

Thane's section is a bit... >_< Well most of it what we've all already seen, from that article where they described how they came up with Thane's appearance.

I'd scan it but I don't have a scanner here. Maybe I could take pictures with photobooth but by god the quality will be about as bad as Thane's prospects...

Modifié par Asenza, 11 février 2012 - 06:48 .


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The person I quoted said they'd scan Thane's page. Not sure when it'll be up though.

Didn't Jack also have a section? I guess she's the only ME2 squad member with an updated look.

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**big sigh**I should go and create another FemShep who won't set a feet in the life support-room to avoid romancing Thane. Maybe she even should not recruit him and give these reapers in ME 3 what they deserve without dying after defeating them of a broken heart.

Although, for all gamers who like tragedy the perfect ending would be this one: reapers defeated, Thane dead, Shepard dying of a broken heart holding Doc Chakwas hand, sighing her last famous words: "Why the hell could I rescue the galaxy but not Thane, Doc? That's unfair." - Chakwas: "That's not unfair, that's life, Shepard." **looking for more Kleenex for all the tears running over my cheeks now**

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Juliaxo wrote...

The person I quoted said they'd scan Thane's page. Not sure when it'll be up though.

Didn't Jack also have a section? I guess she's the only ME2 squad member with an updated look.


Oh right, she did. They even explained some of her tattoos. Awesome.

@ Eliza,

To those gamers I would say again that Bioware doesn't handle death well when it comes to squadmates. And character death, when done incorrectly, is simply shallow emotional manipulation, like the child that died in the demo. In both the scene and aftermath. From the MAGICAL ressurection when it came to Leliana from DA:O to DA2, to the death on Virmire in ME1 and the deaths during and after the Suicide Mission on ME2...

The one that didn't survive Virmire wasn't just dead. Except for a line or two from the VS, and a few paltry mentions in ME2, it was if they had never existed. After the Suicide mission in ME2, not a single squadmate mentions the death of one of the others. Even if they were Shepard's love interest!

There are two phases to character death: the actual death scene and the aftermath. Bioware hasn't done well at either, but seems to prefer to focus more on the actual death as opposed to the effects it would have on other characters after.

I have absolutely no faith in Bioware being able to project a heart-broken Shepard. And a death-scene, no matter the character is worthless if there is not only several avenues open to avoiding the death in the first place, but if the aftermath isn't handled correctly.

EDIT: Oh, dear. Now I'm in JECWSU's camp.

Modifié par Asenza, 11 février 2012 - 07:33 .


#5633
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Eliza, now you're making me cry, too! D: *hugs*

I love Thane too much not to romance him. Even if it feels like my heart has been ripped out, stomped on and ground into a fine paste. I'm hoping there's a 'sacrifice yourself' ending. If Thane dies, the chance of meeting him across the sea is as good as its going to get.

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Haven't had a chance to read all the posts, but just popping in to drop this off to keep our optimism up!
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Juliaxo wrote...

Well, BioWare haven't really given us much to be happy about...
I can't feel too badly for the writers when it seems like they never planned out where each character's storyarc was going. Why create so many love interests, allow players to get attached, only to reduce them to bit parts at the end of the trilogy? It seems like sloppy writing and planning on their part. And knowing they already had so many established characters to write for, did not stop them from creating completely new characters to add to the pile.
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I can't feel to bad for them either.  The did this to themselves. No one asked them to create so many LI's.
It didn't once occur to them that this might be a problem, and then they just go and create more for ME3 when they had enough to begin with. All the new ones and the ones form ME1 will be getting all the good content. Some of them aren't even in your squad and they will be getting better content. There is no way to fix this. I don't even think a dlc could fix this, and the worse thing is Bioware doesn't seem to care.



Asenza wrote...

I have absolutely no faith in Bioware being able to project a heart-broken Shepard. And a death-scene, no matter the character is worthless if there is not only several avenues open to avoiding the death in the first place, but if the aftermath isn't handled correctly.

EDIT: Oh, dear. Now I'm in JECWSU's camp.


Sorry Asenza.

My fath in Bioware just doesn't seem to exist anymore. It's not that they couldn't make a good death scene and let us see the emotions of a heart-broken Shepard. I just don't think they will.  It's easeir for them to have Shepard go on and act like nothing happened.Image IPB


How did some people get their hands on that demo so early?

Modifié par JECWSU, 11 février 2012 - 08:06 .


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Hopefully Bioware's quietness on Thane (& Grunt) means that they'll be surprise teammates?

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If Thane ended up to be a permanent squadmember in ME3 I'd be so shocked I'd probably fall off the chair... >.> Or off the earth.

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Pretty art, Cosmochyck!

JECWSU wrote...
I can't feel to bad for them either.  The did this to themselves. No one asked them to create so many LI's.
It didn't once occur to them that this might be a problem, and then they just go and create more for ME3 when they had enough to begin with. All the new ones and the ones form ME1 will be getting all the good content. Some of them aren't even in your squad and they will be getting better content. There is no way to fix this. I don't even think a dlc could fix this, and the worse thing is Bioware doesn't seem to care.


Exactly! That's why I haven't been able to get excited about any new squadmates like Vega. It just feels like a slap in the face. I feel like BioWare are telling players who romanced any ME2 character (who aren't Tali or Garrus) that they made the ~wrong~ choice, so here romance this character instead. :/

BioWare only care about their bottom line.

And I have no faith they will be able to portray a heartbroken Shepard either. As soon as Thane dies, everyone including Shepard. will get amnesia and he will never be referenced again. D:

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How did some people get their hands on that demo so early?


Facebook is hosting a game in which you can try to win a code (for the xbox) to download the demo early.
https://apps.faceboo...oxmasseffect/uk

DeadpoolBub wrote...

Hopefully Bioware's quietness on Thane (& Grunt) means that they'll be surprise teammates?


If only...

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I've not got one iota of sympathy for the writers, its their job to plan and execute the story, if they write themselves into a hole then they only have themselves to blame... but its us who will suffer.

I still have hope that our fears will prove unfounded but if not I will not be feeling sorry for anyone except the disappointed fans.

nice pic cosmochyck :D

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Juliaxo wrote...

Pretty art, Cosmochyck!

JECWSU wrote...
I can't feel to bad for them either.  The did this to themselves. No one asked them to create so many LI's.
It didn't once occur to them that this might be a problem, and then they just go and create more for ME3 when they had enough to begin with. All the new ones and the ones form ME1 will be getting all the good content. Some of them aren't even in your squad and they will be getting better content. There is no way to fix this. I don't even think a dlc could fix this, and the worse thing is Bioware doesn't seem to care.


Exactly! That's why I haven't been able to get excited about any new squadmates like Vega. It just feels like a slap in the face. I feel like BioWare are telling players who romanced any ME2 character (who aren't Tali or Garrus) that they made the ~wrong~ choice, so here romance this character instead. :/

BioWare only care about their bottom line.

And I have no faith they will be able to portray a heartbroken Shepard either. As soon as Thane dies, everyone including Shepard. will get amnesia and he will never be referenced again. D:

JECWSU wrote...
How did some people get their hands on that demo so early?


Facebook is hosting a game in which you can try to win a code (for the xbox) to download the demo early.
https://apps.faceboo...oxmasseffect/uk

That's exactly what it feels like. It feels like they are saying we should have chosen Garrus, Tali, or Liara as our LI.

Thanks about the demo.
I was so surprised that some were playing it already.

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I won early access for demo and I have to say that..I miss Thane a lot as a companion...Was fine to see Garrus and Liara again in my team, but I think that Thane/Samara or Thane/Zaeed would work better for me...

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Urgh. Personally I'm not thrilled to have Liara back in my team at all... I want Thane!

How is this thread going to be regarding demo spoilers? It might be time for me to leave the thread, if it's going to get spoilery. D:

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Urgh. Personally I'm not thrilled to have Liara back in my team at all... I want Thane!

How is this thread going to be regarding demo spoilers? It might be time for me to leave the thread, if it's going to get spoilery. D:

Can't see any spoilers in my previous post...I thought that everyone knew that Garrus and Liara are squad mates?

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Not aimed at you, I meant in general, sorry. The demo will probably reveal more than what has been mentioned so far I assume.

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Nerana wrote...

Not aimed at you, I meant in general, sorry. The demo will probably reveal more than what has been mentioned so far I assume.

Don't be worry...the demo is exactly this same like from E3 or someting..Proloque plus this one mission we saw . There's no new spoilers or something like that. Plus character creator and You can learn more about every profession skills...

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Exactly! That's why I haven't been able to get excited about any new squadmates like Vega.

Every time I see him I am wondering if he uses to pump up his muscles. Whatever it is, it can't be very healthy.

It just feels like a slap in the face. I feel like BioWare are telling players who romanced any ME2 character (who aren't Tali or Garrus) that they made the ~wrong~ choice, so here romance this character instead. :/

We did made no wrong choice, ladies, we made the right one - no one of the other LIs has such a charming pet name for Shep like Thane and does care about her feeling well so much. His tender "Siha" is the best I've ever heard in a game.

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Nerana wrote...

Urgh. Personally I'm not thrilled to have Liara back in my team at all... I want Thane!

How is this thread going to be regarding demo spoilers? It might be time for me to leave the thread, if it's going to get spoilery. D:


I don't think we will say exactly what happens , but we can post pictures of how our Shepards look in ME3. Some people in other threads are already doing that. I also think Seran wanted to see how Shepard looks and the new hair and character creation. I think taking pictures of scenes we have already seen is ok too. Just not to much detail for those who don't want to know.

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Eliza wrote...


It just feels like a slap in the face. I feel like BioWare are telling players who romanced any ME2 character (who aren't Tali or Garrus) that they made the ~wrong~ choice, so here romance this character instead. :/

We did made no wrong choice, ladies, we made the right one - no one of the other LIs has such a charming pet name for Shep like Thane and does care about her feeling well so much. His tender "Siha" is the best I've ever heard in a game.



I don't think anyone regrets choosing Thane. It just feels like bioware is telling us we chose the wrong LI.

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I would say, if only stop being negative for a few minutes, that I am really happy that Thane calls Shepard Siha.

For some reason, recently it's really hitting me how often someone goes, "Shepard!" and then they go "Ashley!" I understand the reasons behind it, and I know that having every character give Shepard a nickname wouldn't probably work, but still...

Jacob: So how about we drop that Mr. Taylor business.
Shepard: Make me.
Jacob: How do you always know just how to push my buttons and make me like it? I'll see you soon enough Shepard, for now, we got a job to do. (>_<)

Shepard: Thane.
Thane: Siha, I... you've helped me achieve more than I thought possible. We've righted many wrongs. I've spoken to my son. I should be at peace on the eve of battle. (^_^!!!)

On another topic, I was watching the "rejection" during Thane's final romance scene, and... well it wasn't really a rejection, so far as I saw it. In fact, I really liked several of the lines spoken both by Shepard and Thane... the ending was sad and Thane was a bit vague, but it wasn't a full out rejection like Garrus' or Jack's.

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Thane's rejection isn't bad at all. Garrus is pretty bad, but Jack's is the worst.
Shepard is just being mean in his rejection of Jack.