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[Asenza]

Alittlekitty wrote...

Hello,
Personally, I don't think Thane will be a full time squad member like Liara or Ashley/Kaidan, but I also don't expect that for the majority of the cast for ME2 (except, well, Garrus and Tali). Since one of the first things that is stated about Thane when he is introduced into ME2 is the fact that he's dying, I consider it most likely that he'll die in ME3 from the disease (which would be sad, but not surprising).

I just hope that there will be time to explore the LI a bit more before that, and I think they will do that for all LIs from ME2 that do not seem to be available for the full time squad (Miranda, Jack, Jacob, Thane basically.. maybe Samara?). Miranda for instance was quite popular as an LI because of her fantastic personality, so it seems likely that they won't just be ignored.

The only thing that would upset me is if Thane would be introduced only to be killed off immediately (despite people romancing him/ doing his loyalty mission), without having the opportunity to interact/build a story with the character at all. I also hope that it will be a bit sexy/funny/entertaining and not all just emotional/dramatic .


I am pretty curious though how Shepard (m/f) will react to a LI death. Story-wise, if Shep is brought back to earth right after/shortly after the Suicide Mission, is the LI really like a relationship or more like a fling?

Personally, I had enough tragedy and angst in ME2...

[Thrazesul]

I won't mind Thane dying, IF it's my own choice. There should be an option for him to live, it's a RP game after all.

If he does die without any choice or chance to change it, fine, but ME will became less of a choice game to me.

Has a squadmember in either game just died without any choice or player effected way? Ashley/Kaidan was a choice, if a difficult one. Wrex was how much you had invested in his quest or your alignment score. The ME2 squad was all choice of how much you wanted to invest to get everyone through alive.

[Cosmochyck]

@Asenza - me too. Although I swear if Thane is handled poorly, I will load a save from ME2, fail everyone's loyalty missions and kill as many as possible during the SM. Then my Shep can move onto ME3 without any baggage like feelings or friends.
This is why at times I feel that Shep has no choice but to be Renegade - BW is going to screw my Paragon Shep over anyway, so might as well ****** off as many people as possible!
Ok ranting done.
Go Team Thane!!

By our very own Graceyn

[JECWSU]

Bioware doesn't really do death well in my opinion. Virmire didn't make me feel anything, and neither did a squadmat dying during the suicide mission. I doubt they would have shepard react at all.

I don't think anyones death has ever been mandatory in ME. I'm still hoping we have a choice when it comes to Thane.

[Alittlekitty]

Nerana wrote...

I won't mind Thane dying, IF it's my own choice. There should be an option for him to live, it's a RP game after all.

If he does die without any choice or chance to change it, fine, but ME will became less of a choice game to me.

Has a squadmember in either game just died without any choice or player effected way? Ashley/Kaidan was a choice, if a difficult one. Wrex was how much you had invested in his quest or your alignment score. The ME2 squad was all choice of how much you wanted to invest to get everyone through alive.

But Ashley/Kaidan/Wrex etc. were not introduced as a terminally ill person. I see your point, but I can also see why other people say its not comparable and it makes more sense story-wise if he passes away...  

The fact that they have drell as a character class for the multiplayer is perhaps a bit more promising, hopefully we'll get more general information on drell/Thane... and perhaps even see a female.

[Asenza]

Asenza
@BioEvilChris, Is there any chance of seeing Thane or hearing any information about him before the game is released? Hint please?

BioEvilChris Chris Priestly
@Asenza Thane? Thane who?


Me: Lets burn his house down.

Modifié par Asenza, 13 février 2012 - 09:45 .

[Thrazesul]

I believe Thane was sick in the first place to give him a reason to join the suicide mission to begin with. Far fetched maybe, but I like that theory. xD

Since the reapers are attacking Earth, I'll guess that ME3 takes place in a very fast rate. Several months and Earth might be too late to save, which might defeat the purpose of the game.

Now unless ME3 takes place 8-12 months after ME2, Thane will be in a bit of trouble and probably sick. So it'd be typical if Bioware picked that time for the reapers to come >.<

Female drell would be awesome to see, heck any female from the other alien races would be awesome...


Edit: What the heck, was that his answer? LOL I'm not sure whether to kick something or just... be more puzzled...

Modifié par Nerana, 13 février 2012 - 09:42 .

[JECWSU]

Asenza wrote...


Asenza
@BioEvilChris, Is there any chance of seeing Thane or hearing any information about him before the game is released? Hint please?

BioEvilChris Chris Priestly
@Asenza Thane? Thane who?


Me: Lets burn his house down.

What kind of stupid answer is that.
Was he joking because if he was it wasn't funny.

[Asenza]

@ alittle kitty,

While Thane was introduced as a dying man, in is first conversation with Shepard on the Normandy he mentions a cure. It's not even a bit of dialogue you have to search for, he just brings it up when Shepard asks if there's anything she can do for him.

Given a handful of other information spread throughout the Shadow Broker dossiers and the CDN, it is not wholly outside the realm of possibility that a cure, if not some method of life extension is possible that would enable Thane to live long enough to receive the Hanar cure. These things aren't fanfiction dredged up in the mind of deranged Thane fans, this is foreshadowing. Bioware brought it up. If they drop all of it without so much of a word well... that's bad storytelling.

Also, this is a universe where death can be bested in two years if you throw enough money at it, a universe where cancer has been cured. All that being possible, but not a cure for Thane and his pseudo-Cystic Fibrosis?

Suspension of disbelief = snapped.

@JECWSU,

That's all he said. That and a  face. So no even semi-helpful/interesting/new/uplifting information there.

I've got torches and pitchforks if anyone's interested.

Modifié par Asenza, 13 février 2012 - 10:01 .

[Cosmochyck]

Asenza wrote...


Asenza
@BioEvilChris, Is there any chance of seeing Thane or hearing any information about him before the game is released? Hint please?

BioEvilChris Chris Priestly
@Asenza Thane? Thane who?


Me: Lets burn his house down.

I am on board with this!  So not funny!  Although perhaps that means Thane has a bigger role and they are keeping it tight-lipped?  

Anyway, who lives closest so they can start the fire? 

Modifié par Cosmochyck, 13 février 2012 - 10:05 .

[coldwetn0se]

Hi all!  Have posted here before, but didn't properly say hello. 

So, been considering a few things regarding Thane (and please feel free to correct me if I am wrong, it's been known to happen):

1)  It is said in the LotSB dosier, that he was/is a good canidate for a lung transplant.  Not a cure, true, but something that could potentially extend his life till a cure is found....maybe, maybe.

2) If you complete his LM successfully, and either continue chatting him up (as a friend), or romance him, he gives multiple reasons to have a will now to live (i.e. family, friends, potentially lovers.....).

So, with this info, AND for this being an RPG....players wanting agency and choices from one game making an impact into the next game.... here is a simple story line that would allow for multiple outcomes for our lovely Drell, that could easily satisfy most players.

If the plot flags for a successful LM with Thane are marked, and he didn't die in the SM, then he has chosen to go through the risk of the lung transplant.  His character believes that fighting for his life even in the eve of destruction from the Reapers, is worth it for family, friends, and Shepard (romanced or not).

Then, if the romance flag is also marked, the letter found in his file at the Lair of the Shadow Broker, after the SM, would begin to make more sense.  He wanted to leave a letter for Shepard should he die on the operating table, or the transplant was rejected.  The letter, at least to me, makes more sense in this line of thinking.

Lastly, for those that chose to ignore Thane's LM or fail it, and again, did NOT die in the SM, he simply has his time/mission in ME3, and then is set to die (so sad to ponder, but there are those who seem to think this is fitting.....for shame!!).

OK, admittedly total speculation, but an easy (possibly) way to pull off a player choice scenario, and make all friends of Drell happy.  And obviously, if the Romance Flag is initiated, and that Shepard stays loyal to said romance with Thane, extra LI scenes between Shepard and Thane occur....as they hopefully would for all other LI's.

Happy thoughts, Thane lovers!!



Edit: for Spelling...Doh!

Modifié par coldwetn0se, 13 février 2012 - 10:15 .

[wildannie]

@coldwetn0se I like your happy thoughts...

Chris is just a touch evil but he's never going to be able to answer that kind of question anyway. The silence regarding Thane must be deliberate, the reason for this silence could be good or bad... at least he responded

@cosmochyck... you live closer than I do so get over there with your pitchforks

[Eliza]

@coldwetn0se: You and your conclusions give me hope. Since Thane has a new reason to life (or better two - Shepard and Kolyat), it is possible that he changes his mind about the transplantation.
Another thing that came into my mind: Maybe on one of the missions in ME 3 they can find new antibiotics, maybe the Quarians have developed good ones (they need much of it we know), but did not share with other species before. So Shepard maybe should ask her old friend Tali to help out with some of the Quarian antibiotics.

[wildannie]

Eliza wrote...

@coldwetn0se: You and your conclusions give me hope. Since Thane has a new reason to life (or better two - Shepard and Kolyat), it is possible that he changes his mind about the transplantation.
Another thing that came into my mind: Maybe on one of the missions in ME 3 they can find new antibiotics, maybe the Quarians have developed good ones (they need much of it we know), but did not share with other species before. So Shepard maybe should ask her old friend Tali to help out with some of the Quarian antibiotics.

oooo don't say that  my first import is going to be one where Shep didn't recruit Tali... I'm guessing that should mean that Tali died .  That would teach me if Thane's survival was to hinge upon her survival .  It is quite a good point though, the quarians should be leaders in the development of antibiotics.

[Juliaxo]

Asenza wrote...
Asenza
@BioEvilChris, Is there any chance of seeing Thane or hearing any information about him before the game is released? Hint please?

BioEvilChris Chris Priestly
@Asenza Thane? Thane who?

Me: Lets burn his house down.

That is so not reassuring. D: Did you write him back?

coldwetn0se wrote...Hi all! Have posted here before, but didn't properly say hello.

So, been considering a few things regarding Thane (and please feel free to correct me if I am wrong, it's been known to happen):

1) It is said in the LotSB dosier, that he was/is a good canidate for a lung transplant. Not a cure, true, but something that could potentially extend his life till a cure is found....maybe, maybe.

2) If you complete his LM successfully, and either continue chatting him up (as a friend), or romance him, he gives multiple reasons to have a will now to live (i.e. family, friends, potentially lovers.....).

So, with this info, AND for this being an RPG....players wanting agency and choices from one game making an impact into the next game.... here is a simple story line that would allow for multiple outcomes for our lovely Drell, that could easily satisfy most players.

Well said. It just goes to show that BioWare could easily write in a choice to keep Thane alive. They've already introduced the possibility so it's not like the treatment would come out of nowhere. There have been hints and it would just be cruel of them to force Thane's death on us knowing it could have gone another way.

We're not asking for the impossible here.

Isla-Shepard wrote...

Hey If you want to see pictures of Thane I suggest you tweet like hell to Chase Boyajian as he tweeted

"Thanks for the great response last week on the #femshep trailer! on to the launch trailer! who do you want to see in it? #masseffect"

Let's assault this guy's twitter with pleas for Thane. Maybe he'll actually appear in the trailer if enough of us ask/beg/plead.

Modifié par Juliaxo, 13 février 2012 - 11:34 .

[Asenza]

Isla-Shepard wrote...

Hey If you want to see pictures of Thane I suggest you tweet like hell to Chase Boyajian as he tweeted

"Thanks for the great response last week on the #femshep trailer! on to the launch trailer! who do you want to see in it? #masseffect"

Tweeted: Thane! Please take pity on a wretched group of Thane fans, spirits are quite low among us.

@ Julia,

I replied, saying, Oh you know, the first Drell out of the only three that seem to exist in the ME universe... the LI one, the master assassin.

Modifié par Asenza, 13 février 2012 - 11:38 .

[coldwetn0se]

Eliza wrote...

@coldwetn0se: You and your conclusions give me hope. Since Thane has a new reason to life (or better two - Shepard and Kolyat), it is possible that he changes his mind about the transplantation.
Another thing that came into my mind: Maybe on one of the missions in ME 3 they can find new antibiotics, maybe the Quarians have developed good ones (they need much of it we know), but did not share with other species before. So HowevShepard maybe should ask her old friend Tali to help out with some of the Quarian antibiotics.

Hi Eliza, glad my post gave you a glimmer of hope.
Hmmm, Quarian medicine is a very interesting thought.  The only hiccup I can see with "antibiotics" being the answer, is just like with CF (Cystic fibrosis), even if the secondary infections (bacterial) that lead to decreased lung efficiency could be helped by said antibiotics, by the time Thane is to the stages that  his Keprel's disease would mimic a late stage CF patient, the actual hardening and reshaping of the lung/s have potentially doomed the patient, unless they get a transplant. 

However, Dr. Chakwas reports were somewhat spare, so if any hardening or deforming of the lungs can be further prevented with the aid of Quarian medicine (antibiotics/anti-viral), then maybe it WOULD help.

Not sure how coherent that train of thought was, so I apologize to those reading this that just went....unk!  Thoughts are getting away from me...heehee!

[Eliza]

If Quarian medicine would prolong Thane's life until a real cure is found (or he agrees for transplantation), that would be fine. If no cure cane be found in acceptable time frame, so maybe it brings some months or better years of happiness for him and Shep after the reapers are defeated.
They both deserve a little bit of happiness after all they've gone through - Shep lost so many beloved people in her life (my default Shep has the Mindoir background), lost friends and squadmates and crewmembers and never seemed to have something that was worth calling a "private life". Well, and Thanes childhood and youth were not what anyone of us would call "happy". So I really hope for a cheesy "happily ever after" ending for Thane and my Shep.

[Juliaxo]

My mainShepard has the colonist background, too. It would tear her apart if she lost Thane. I think a lot of us are hoping for the possibility of a happy ending against all odds.

Speaking of the romance, some people were speculating whether this music track might be the romance theme? Someone ripped a whole bunch of unnamed soundfiles from the demo which is where it came from. Not sure if it is, but it sounds beautiful and somber. What do you guys think?
To be positive, we know Thane is viable for a transplant, if it comes down to that. He'd just need a donor. What worries me is that he'd need to pursue this on his own since Shepard is locked up and has been for months at the start of ME3.

Asenza wrote...
Tweeted: Thane! Please take pity on a wretched group of Thane fans, spirits are quite low among us.
@ Julia,

I replied, saying, Oh you know, the first Drell out of the only three that seem to exist in the ME universe... the LI one, the master assassin.

I tweeted too. Let's hope they listen. It would make me so happy to see Thane in the trailer after a year of nothing.

[JECWSU]

Juliaxo wrote...

My mainShepard has the colonist background, too. It would tear her apart if she lost Thane. I think a lot of us are hoping for the possibility of a happy ending against all odds.

Speaking of the romance, some people were speculating whether this music track might be the romance theme? Someone ripped a whole bunch of unnamed soundfiles from the demo which is where it came from. Not sure if it is, but it sounds beautiful and somber. What do you guys think?
To be positive, we know Thane is viable for a transplant, if it comes down to that. He'd just need a donor. What worries me is that he'd need to pursue this on his own since Shepard is locked up and has been for months at the start of ME3.

Asenza wrote...
Tweeted: Thane! Please take pity on a wretched group of Thane fans, spirits are quite low among us.
@ Julia,

I replied, saying, Oh you know, the first Drell out of the only three that seem to exist in the ME universe... the LI one, the master assassin.

I tweeted too. Let's hope they listen. It would make me so happy to see Thane in the trailer after a year of nothing.

I have two sheprads that romanced him. One is a colonist and the other is earthborn. I agree that Shepard and Thane have had enough loss in their lives and deserve to be happy. I do hate the fact that if he is looking for a donor or a doctor to help him he has to do it alone. I know my shepard would help if she could.

I really hope Bioware listens as well.

Modifié par JECWSU, 14 février 2012 - 02:15 .

[Cosmochyck]

I just read that if you play campaigns on multiplayer, it will allow us to improve the ending of the single player campaign. Perhaps to save/cure Mr. Krios??

[Lucky Thirteen]

Cosmochyck wrote...

I just read that if you play campaigns on multiplayer, it will allow us to improve the ending of the single player campaign. Perhaps to save/cure Mr. Krios??

They wouldn't dare. There would be so much friggen fan rage.

[Fiery Phoenix]

Asenza wrote...


Asenza
@BioEvilChris, Is there any chance of seeing Thane or hearing any information about him before the game is released? Hint please?

BioEvilChris Chris Priestly
@Asenza Thane? Thane who?

Me: Lets burn his house down.

[Asenza]

From the new Mac Walter interview, ():

MW: Mass Effect 3 has been the ultimate example of tying up loose ends. We did some in ME2, more like dealing with consequences from the original, but we knew that ME3 had to be an amazing story regardless of what the player's choices were previously. The biggest and most obvious example of course is the conclusion of Mass Effect 2 and the suicide mission that would dictate character roles in ME3. We don't know how that played out from player to player, but early on we had to say that they're all coming back in some form or fashion IF they're alive in the player's universe. So again it came back to the fact that we had to tell an amazing story with or without them. The planning on that was probably the hardest thing. To make a side mission feel relevant and interesting with or without a certain character. You also have to look at all of the consequences of including them as well and decide how they will be addressed in ME3. Does one character get a whole mission while another gets a minor plot on the Citadel? Then it's just hammering down, checking things off, and ensuring we have all of the things that people want to see tied up included in the game.

DK: Alright, just to finish us out. Obviously people are really passionate about the game and the universe you all have created. Do you worry about trying to please everyone and be all things to all people? Certain characters are favorites to certain players, so do you worry that some of the story conclusions are stronger than others and that some fans might be let down by the way certain characters are handled?

MW: Well, it only takes one look at the forums or Twitter or whatever it is to realize that every fan has a favorite and they all want that character to be the star of the next Mass Effect game. Obviously, we can't do that. It all comes down to kind of the same thing which is, 'What amazing story can we tell about Ashely' for instance. Something that would feel fulfilling for her and the players that love that character. And then, given her scope within the game, how do we do that? Then there are tough calls about certain characters because we'd be making the game for 10 more years if we did every thing for every character that every fan wanted us to do. Again, time will tell whether we've satisfied everyone or not, but keep in mind that BioWare is filled with fans of the game and we use those people to find out if they connected with the characters in the way they wanted to. Did they have the experience they wanted to and was it fulfilling? By and large those people say 'yeah, it actually met or exceeded the expectations I had'. Sure, there are a few complaints about not being able to take character X on a certain mission or something, but people get over it really quick and then say 'I just enjoyed the ride – and it was amazing.'

Going by this, Thane fans who wanted the ability to choose whether or not to save Thane (I don't think I could go amiss by stating that the majority want a chance to save Thane) shouldn't have anything to worry about.

But going by that hull-breach back in November... Yes, I know I'm taking this completely out of context.

Pessimism is painful. JECWSU, I blame you.

Modifié par Asenza, 14 février 2012 - 05:06 .