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[Tasha vas Nar Rayya]

Just gonna whack it on here, as I can't seem to find many people who are playing the ME3 demo multiplayer on PC, if you want to play with me, then I am 'SystematicSlayer' (without the apostrophes.) My profile picture is Jack. Feel free to add me. Still need to unlock Thane's long lost twin. But I have a turian and salarian thus far. And no female drell. You can't even play as a male quarian, even though the model already exists.

So just add me, often online, up for a game if you add me and PM me

And a top! Drellicious! Biotic bubbly Thane:

Modifié par Tasha vas Nar Rayya, 19 février 2012 - 12:00 .

[Thrazesul]

I'm going to be really peeved if we don't get at least *somekind* of message from the LI at the start of ME3. I do see Thane getting concerned at the fact that Shepard is stuck on Earth with the trial and then the planet is attacked by reapers... Unless said attack is very fast and Shepard leaves earth in a manner of hours...

But if Thane doesn't appear until 5-7 missions afterwards with no message at all? That'd be just weird.

[Asenza]

@Nerana,

Especially considering his condition. When recruited Thane said he wouldn't show symptoms for another 8-12 months, and the events of ME2 take place over 9 months and seeing as ME3 takes place six months after Arrival...

Well, either his estimates were off, or he received some kind of treatment/transplant to extend his life or... he's in really serious condition, barely hanging on.

If I don't get a damn email I'm going to be pissed, and if I can't just zoom off to find him, even more so. Hey, I can always start gathering allies for the Reaper war wherever he happens to be...

[Thrazesul]

Wait, those time dates have been confirmed? ME2 is really over 9 months? And ME3 is really 6 months afterwards? O.O

If that's the cause then Thane must have been either cured or very ill. >.<

GAH

[Lucky Thirteen]

Well judging by the demo, when the Reapers start attacking Shepard leaves immediately. I personally have always gotten the impression that it's difficult and costly to send a message across space. Perhaps made worse when you are on a ship that's moving So if there is no message, I'll just assume Bioware didn't think about it and pretend Thane tried to but it got lost somewhere in cyberspace. It'd be cool to get a email from him, but I can't help liking the idea of them meeting and speaking in person for the first time since Shepard's arrest because of all the complications preventing them from contacting each other, even preventing a little email. Absence makes the heart grow fonder you know.

Besides that, I've been thinking the Alliance would make it incredibly difficult for them to be in contact. There's the risk that Thane or just anyone of the ME2 crew could hatch a plan to get Shepard out of there. There is also the fact they can be considered accomplices to what happens in Arrival, especially if Shepard chooses not to turn herself/himself in. That could be the whole reason they were all separated. They could all be considered guilty by association.

[Asenza]

Lucky Thirteen wrote...

Well judging by the demo, when the Reapers start attacking Shepard leaves immediately. I personally have always gotten the impression that it's difficult and costly to send a message across space. Perhaps made worse when you are on a ship that's moving So if there is no message, I'll just assume Bioware didn't think about it and pretend Thane tried to but it got lost somewhere in cyberspace. It'd be cool to get a email from him, but I can't help liking the idea of them meeting and speaking in person for the first time since Shepard's arrest because of all the complications preventing them from contacting each other, even preventing a little email. Absence makes the heart grow fonder you know.

Besides that, I've been thinking the Alliance would make it incredibly difficult for them to be in contact. There's the risk that Thane or just anyone of the ME2 crew could hatch a plan to get Shepard out of there. There is also the fact they can be considered accomplices to what happens in Arrival, especially if Shepard chooses not to turn herself/himself in. That could be the whole reason they were all separated. They could all be considered guilty by association.

Come on...

No email? I can hologram-face to face with TIM via quantum entanglement, but Thane can't send me a damn email? A hand-written letter? A text message?

A forum post: No worse than ever. You are well?-- Thane.

I mean, it makes sense for Miranda to stay away, she's Cerberus. Same with Jacob. They would probably stay away because having some Cerberus people calling you up while you're on trial wouldn't help your case much, but Thane's not connected to any "terrorist" group, nor has he been convicted of anything. Actually, it'd be pretty funny to hear someone try to rationalize an alien's involvement in an anti-alien establishment.

If we could think about it, why couldn't Bioware? And if they did, and decided to make it a non-issue for the sake of OHH DRAMA, boo on them.

Modifié par Asenza, 19 février 2012 - 04:05 .

[Thrazesul]

Hm, that's all true, admittingly. Getting messages in ME2 was easy, but yeah that's because it had to work to get messages back and forth gamewise. And most of them did say they had to dig around to find the right adress.

Well, with that in mind, plus the whole guilty by association, I suppose it makes sense that a message wouldn't work. >.> So I can relax again, thanks.

Also, is the demo worth playing through? Been playing the MP a lot, its so darn addictive, but I'm scared of the single player one. xD Friends are nagging at me to play it but I'm afraid I'll ruin something by doing it. And I really do know most of what has happened in it anyway... I think.

[mythlover20]

Well, I'm just putting it out there too, I'm on the PS3 now and if anyone wants to add me my PSN ID is mythlover20. I have the same tag pretty much everywhere, except Origin, where it's just mythlover. I'm usually on the PC these days, busy typing up my story and various other things, so it may be easier to get me there, but when I ordered my copy a few months ago I didn't know ME3 would work on my laptop so I'm mainly going to be on the PS3 multiplayer when it comes out. At least until I can get my hands on a pc copy.

I also suck at using PC controls so Tasha, I apologise in advance. :S

[Alittlekitty]

Asenza wrote...

Lucky Thirteen wrote...

Well judging by the demo, when the Reapers start attacking Shepard leaves immediately. I personally have always gotten the impression that it's difficult and costly to send a message across space. Perhaps made worse when you are on a ship that's moving So if there is no message, I'll just assume Bioware didn't think about it and pretend Thane tried to but it got lost somewhere in cyberspace. It'd be cool to get a email from him, but I can't help liking the idea of them meeting and speaking in person for the first time since Shepard's arrest because of all the complications preventing them from contacting each other, even preventing a little email. Absence makes the heart grow fonder you know.

Besides that, I've been thinking the Alliance would make it incredibly difficult for them to be in contact. There's the risk that Thane or just anyone of the ME2 crew could hatch a plan to get Shepard out of there. There is also the fact they can be considered accomplices to what happens in Arrival, especially if Shepard chooses not to turn herself/himself in. That could be the whole reason they were all separated. They could all be considered guilty by association.

Come on...

No email? I can hologram-face to face with TIM via quantum entanglement, but Thane can't send me a damn email? A hand-written letter? A text message?

A forum post: No worse than ever. You are well?-- Thane.

I mean, it makes sense for Miranda to stay away, she's Cerberus. Same with Jacob. They would probably stay away because having some Cerberus people calling you up while you're on trial wouldn't help your case much, but Thane's not connected to any "terrorist" group, nor has he been convicted of anything. Actually, it'd be pretty funny to hear someone try to rationalize an alien's involvement in an anti-alien establishment.

If we could think about it, why couldn't Bioware? And if they did, and decided to make it a non-issue for the sake of OHH DRAMA, boo on them.

..? Shepard murdered thousands of Batarians and was pretty much arrested by the Alliance for mass murder, or something similar. But she/he can contact the outside world on a forum?  I'm sorry but Lucky Thirteen has several good points. Maybe if you don't like "Ohh drama", perhaps you shouldn't have romanced the terminally ill guy with a dysfunctional family?  

Also, I hope Bioware's reaction is something roughly among the lines of "COME AT ME BRO". :')))

[Asenza]

Alittlekitty wrote...

..? Shepard murdered thousands of Batarians and was pretty much arrested by the Alliance for mass murder, or something similar. But she/he can contact the outside world on a forum?  I'm sorry but Lucky Thirteen has several good points. Maybe if you don't like "Ohh drama", perhaps you shouldn't have romanced the terminally ill guy with a dysfunctional family?  

Also, I hope Bioware's reaction is something roughly among the lines of "COME AT ME BRO". :')))

It's called a joke. I'm assuming you've never heard of one considering how ludicrous my suggestion of contacting Thane via an internet forum was.

So far as the demo shows, Shepard has gotten off with a slap on the wrist for that whole genocide thing.

The reason I called into question the lack of communication issue is BECAUSE Thane, unlike all the other LI's, is dying. It's a matter of time. Last we saw of Thane, he really doesn't have much of it left. By the beginning of ME3, a  Shepard that romanced Thane would be more than a little worried about him, if not half-convinced that he couldn't possibly still be alive by the time they leave Earth.

Yes, Reapers = here and all, but the devs have said that the war is like WW2, with some places involved in the war and other places not and others still sitting on the sidelines eating popcorn. Running off to at least warn some previous squadmates that teh end iz nigh and let them know that Shepard is still alive and/or recruit them if possible... well, that's killing four or five birds with the same stone.

I like drama just fine. But forced drama, contrived, overwrought and cheap drama is another matter entirely.

Modifié par Asenza, 19 février 2012 - 04:42 .

[Lucky Thirteen]

Asenza wrote...

Come on...

No email? I can hologram-face to face with TIM via quantum entanglement, but Thane can't send me a damn email? A hand-written letter? A text message?

A forum post: No worse than ever. You are well?-- Thane.

TIM has billions and billions of credits and advanced technology within his reach to bring a person back from the dead. Thane does not. Thane is more on par with the average person.  If Thane had everything TIM does, he probably would work on that cure.

That's why TIM can contact you hologram-face to face and Thane would have problems sending a simply email.

And yeah, a Shepard that romanced Thane would be more than a little worried about it. But this is one of those times where if Shepard let's that occupy her mind too much, it can spell trouble for the entire galaxy. Sometimes it's better to remember a person you love when they were healthy and happy, then have your memory filled with them sick and dying.

Also, I think the whole reason Shepard gets off with a slap on the wrist from the Alliance is because a lot of them know what Shepard did was to prevent the Reapers. They just arrested Shepard for show mostly, why else would they go hand pick Vega to be Shepard's bodyguard like they did instead of hiring some random guy.

Modifié par Lucky Thirteen, 19 février 2012 - 04:50 .

[Asenza]

Lucky Thirteen wrote...

Asenza wrote...

Come on...

No email? I can hologram-face to face with TIM via quantum entanglement, but Thane can't send me a damn email? A hand-written letter? A text message?

A forum post: No worse than ever. You are well?-- Thane.

TIM has billions and billions of credits and advanced technology within his reach to bring a person back from the dead. Thane does not. Thane is more on par with the average person.  If Thane had everything TIM does, he probably would work on that cure.

That's why TIM can contact you hologram-face to face and Thane would have problems sending a simply email.

That was a joke.

But why would Thane have problems sending an email? If a Purgatory escapee can get my email address and send me a message, why couldn't Thane?

I'm still not completely sold on the idea that the alliance would lock Shepard in a room handcuffed for six months and keep them from any outside contact... to what end? I mean in the demo Shepard's basically at liberty, standing there watching that kid on the rooftop. If the whole trial/court-marshalled/stripped of command matter was all but resolved save for Anderson's declaration of reinstatement then I don't see why Shepard couldn't send out some messages or receive them.

[Jack Pistols]

I love thane

[Lucky Thirteen]

If you pay attention to lore and like I said, it's expensive and difficult to get messages sent. I would imagine it would be worse with the Reaper attacks, the system will be clogged. There is also the fact they say in the beginning of that demo, they can't contact anyone when the reapers attack.

[wildannie]

I'm hoping that the intro conversations change depending upon the import, most of shepard's responses to Anderson made little sense - I thought that one in particular was made her look a bit thick. I'm hoping there'll at least be an email from Thane available as soon as Shep gets to check her messages, a video message would be better.

@Alittlekitty I don't think you should assume that those who chose to have there Shepard romance Thane like drama, I certainly don't. I like Thane despite the terminally ill aspect of his story which I find to incredibly cheap within the Mass Effect universe and all its scientific achievements. I can only hope that there is opportunity to treat or cure him in ME3.

[Asenza]

Lucky Thirteen wrote...

If you pay attention to lore and like I said, it's expensive and difficult to get messages sent. I would imagine it would be worse with the Reaper attacks, the system will be clogged. There is also the fact they say in the beginning of that demo, they can't contact anyone when the reapers attack.

Of course contact gets iffy once the Reapers show up. But in the preceding six months Shepard was in custody?

So far as it being expensive and difficult it is to get emails sent, ME2 certainly didn't act like it. But fine, I'll play. Thane must have some money left over after working as the galaxy's best assassin, I'm pretty sure he can afford a few emails.

Your turn.

[Alittlekitty]

@wildannie

I'm not assuming people love drama. But apparently people have trouble accepting that when a character is written as being terminally ill, it is unlikely that their LI/romance story will have a 'happy ending'. I think one can expect that beforehand, and don't see the point in being unhappy with it later.

I personally agree with Lucky Thirteen that I consider it unlikely that Thane can contact Shepard while in custody for mass murder/genocide/whatever. Perhaps the in-cannon explanation will be that emails are being screened. Even if its technically possible, the main focus of the story is on the impending war with the Reapers, not on your love interest of choice. But hey, perhaps we do get emails from him; that would be nice, I certainly wouldn't mind. Perhaps we can cure him too: I would if I could.

I'm just not expecting it.

[Asenza]

@alittlekitty,

Apparently some people have trouble recognizing clear, repeated foreshadowing that indicates a terminally ill character's condition does not have to remain that way.

Character romances have always been on the side of the main plot. I don't think anyone here has said that the main focus of the story is one's LI.

Modifié par Asenza, 19 février 2012 - 05:40 .

[wildannie]

@Alittlekitty its a game about choice where it was possible to cure Shepard from death.

Thane's a viable candidate for transplant, romanced Thane wants to live, the hanar are working on a cure, there have been recent breakthroughs in the treatment of some lung conditions. All this is fact in the ME universe so it should not be unlikely for players to get as happy and ending as those who chose other characters. Why should players be content with forced drama that impacts little on the overall plot in a game?

There is plenty of drama to be had, forcing the death of any LI would be a bad move.

[Alittlekitty]

... right, so like I said one post up, I'm perfectly fine with 'a terminally ill character's condition not remaining that way'.
I'd happily cure Thane.
Considering the story so far, I don't think it's likely to happen, nor would it be bad story telling IMHO.
Not expecting an email and neither does Lucky Thirteen (I think?).

I just don't agree with you.


Also, some Thane art on DA: http://chestymcgee.d...qo=45&offset=60

Modifié par Alittlekitty, 19 février 2012 - 06:07 .

[wildannie]

Alittlekitty wrote...

... right, so like I said one post up, I'm perfectly fine with 'a terminally ill character's condition not remaining that way'.
I'd happily cure Thane.
Considering the story so far, I don't think it's likely to happen, nor would it be bad story telling IMHO.
Not expecting an email and neither does Lucky Thirteen (I think?).

I just don't agree with you.


Also, some Thane art on DA: http://chestymcgee.d...qo=45&offset=60

you may be right and we won't get a cure, but considering all the hints that this could be possible I don't know why you're so pessimistic.  

nice picture... not sure smokings such a good idea 

Modifié par wildannie, 19 février 2012 - 06:17 .

[Alittlekitty]

wildannie wrote...

Alittlekitty wrote...

... right, so like I said one post up, I'm perfectly fine with 'a terminally ill character's condition not remaining that way'.
I'd happily cure Thane.
Considering the story so far, I don't think it's likely to happen, nor would it be bad story telling IMHO.
Not expecting an email and neither does Lucky Thirteen (I think?).

I just don't agree with you.


Also, some Thane art on DA: http://chestymcgee.d...qo=45&offset=60

you may be right and we won't get a cure, but considering all the hints that this could be possible I don't know why you're so pessimistic.  

nice picture... not sure smokings such a good idea 

Well I like to think of myself as realistic, though perhaps that thought in itself is a bit optimistic... now it just got confusing

Apparently the picture is based on/inspired by Deus Ex Human Revolution (which is awesome, in case you haven't played/tried it yet), but yeah the smoking thing is a bit ironic to say the least... 

[Thrazesul]

With all the hints about Thane being liable for an operation and the daily news things about the cure itself... it'd just seem strange they even bothered writing those things if there won't be any chance at all to make use of it. If they hadn't made any hints like that whatsoever I think a lot more people would be acceptable of Thane's death but now it just seems like a cruel joke if no option's shown.

[wildannie]

I thought there was something familiar about that picture, I'd say Thane pulls it off better than Adam Jensen though... I must finish Deus Ex HR, I got distracted.

[Juliaxo]

wildannie wrote...
@Alittlekitty I don't think you should assume that those who chose to have there Shepard romance Thane like drama, I certainly don't. I like Thane despite the terminally ill aspect of his story which I find to incredibly cheap within the Mass Effect universe and all its scientific achievements. I can only hope that there is opportunity to treat or cure him in ME3.

I hate the illness aspect of his story as well. I had Shepard romance him  in spite of it, definitely not because of it.
Thane would still be compelling without it. Probably more so, because I get the impression that some players were scared off by the fact that he's ill.

Still it boggles my mind that the idea of a cure or treatment seems so ludicrous to some people. Thane and Shepard inhabit a world much more advanced than our own and a cure IS being worked on. Why would BioWare mention that he's viable for a lung transplant in his medical report - if it's not going to mean anything in the end? If he can't be helped? I don't think it's unreasonable to want options in a game about choice.

Also, concerning the messages debate, I just think back to ME2 and how basically everyone Shep met sent her an email. From the Salarian you rescue in Thane's recruitment mission to the random crazypants convict who escapes during Jack's recruitment mission. These random people somehow got a hold of Shepard's email and sent her messages.

Considering that, I don't think it'd be dificult for Thane to send her a message unless the Alliance is preventing her from receiving any. Contrived reason #4356365 to seperate Shepard from the ME2 squad.