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[Lilunebrium]

KingofEverything wrote...

In a game where you are supposed to be able to determine the outcome, this is way too much of a tease to not have the option of saving him if you do the right thing.

Indeed. Which is why I'm sure he'll live in at least one possible ending.

If not, that means the writer chose to have him die in every possible conclusion a player can get, which means Thane's death is very important to him (her?), which in turn means his death will be handled superbly.

Unless, of course, J.K. Rowling managed to write Thane for ME3, in which case we're screwed.


Edit: Oh God. ToP.


By Domirine

Modifié par Lilunebrium, 03 mars 2012 - 08:34 .

[XX55XX]

Way back during ME2's release, wasn't there a "Thane" DLC rumor making the rounds?

Unfortunately, if they haven't changed the leaked script, Thane has a scripted death. Shepard performs his last rites, and away he goes... But, they did say back in November that they might change a few things, so who knows...

[Lilunebrium]

XX55XX wrote...

Way back during ME2's release, wasn't there a "Thane" DLC rumor making the rounds?

Unfortunately, if they haven't changed the leaked script, Thane has a scripted death. Shepard performs his last rites, and away he goes... But, they did say back in November that they might change a few things, so who knows...

Dude. Really. I'm convinced you aren't doing this on purpose, but there are people here in this thread who don't want to get spoiled on the events of ME3, including yours truly.

If you want to post something regarding the leaked script, could you perhaps use the [ spoiler] and [ /spoiler] tags, without the spaces inbetween? 

If I'm being too nitpicky, feel free to go "Oi, Lil - no one cares, now shush".

Modifié par Lilunebrium, 03 mars 2012 - 08:38 .

[JECWSU]

I doubt Bioware would do a great job with Thane's death if he does die. They haven't done such a great job with character deaths so far. My biggest fear is that if he does die Shepard will act as if it's just another day. She won't mention him even once. No one will. It will be like he was never there.

[JECWSU]

XX55XX wrote...

Way back during ME2's release, wasn't there a "Thane" DLC rumor making the rounds?

Unfortunately, if they haven't changed the leaked script, Thane has a scripted death. Shepard performs his last rites, and away he goes... But, they did say back in November that they might change a few things, so who knows...

This sounds really terrible, and just plain stupid. I don't want to see this in the game at all.

[XX55XX]

JECWSU wrote...

XX55XX wrote...

Way back during ME2's release, wasn't there a "Thane" DLC rumor making the rounds?

Unfortunately, if they haven't changed the leaked script, Thane has a scripted death. Shepard performs his last rites, and away he goes... But, they did say back in November that they might change a few things, so who knows...

This sounds really terrible, and just plain stupid. I don't want to see this in the game at all.

The ending scene is really touching, though. 

With the changes in the ToS as of late around here, BioWare knows that they are going to have a lot of angry fans lined up around here. 

Still will be an excellent game, though. 

[Lilunebrium]

JECWSU wrote...

I doubt Bioware would do a great job with Thane's death if he does die. They haven't done such a great job with character deaths so far. My biggest fear is that if he does die Shepard will act as if it's just another day. She won't mention him even once. No one will. It will be like he was never there.

I fortunately haven't experienced many deaths in BioWare games, but my points was that if Thane dies in every outcome, the writer means something with it. I'm not sure how to properly explain my reasoning, so I hope my meaning gets across, but in such a situation, one of the most important traits of Thane will be his death. 

His writer would have written him knowing he's going to die no matter what, perhaps even created Thane out of a Character-Who-Always-Dies-concept. Considering similar cases, I very much doubt the quality of his death will be disappointing. The death itself, naturally, and I for one wouldn't be surprised if I spent the following half an hour shamelessly pouring waterfalls out of my eyes, but there's hardly a doubt left in my mind that the quality of his death will be anything less than satisfying.

Regarding reactions to his death and the way Shepard may handle it - I'm not feeling all too negative about this aspect either. Considering how ME3 is supposed to be the most emotional and Shepard-humanizing game of the bunch, I actually think we won't be disappointed.

I don't know. Call me a blind optimist, but I have faith that whatever happens with Thane, BioWare will handle it well.

Modifié par Lilunebrium, 03 mars 2012 - 08:48 .

[JECWSU]

Lilunebrium wrote...

JECWSU wrote...

I doubt Bioware would do a great job with Thane's death if he does die. They haven't done such a great job with character deaths so far. My biggest fear is that if he does die Shepard will act as if it's just another day. She won't mention him even once. No one will. It will be like he was never there.

I fortunately haven't experienced many deaths in BioWare games, but my points was that if Thane dies in every outcome, the writer means something with it. I'm not sure how to properly explain my reasoning, so I hope my meaning gets across, but in such a situation, one of the most important traits of Thane will be his death. 

His writer would have written him knowing he's going to die no matter what, perhaps even created Thane out of a Character-Who-Always-Dies-concept. Considering similar cases, I very much doubt the quality of his death will be disappointing. The death itself, naturally, and I for one wouldn't be surprised if I spent the following half an hour shamelessly pouring waterfalls out of my eyes, but there's hardly a doubt left in my mind that the quality of his death will be anything less than satisfying.

Regarding reactions to his death and the way Shepard may handle it - I'm not feeling all too negative about this aspect either. Considering how ME3 is supposed to be the most emotional and Shepard-humanizing game of the bunch, I actually think we won't be disappointed.

I don't know. Call me a blind optimist, but I have faith that whatever happens with Thane, BioWare will handle it well.

I understand what you are saying. I don't have very much faith in bioware at this point.
I would love to be proven wrong, and have everything turn out ok for Thane in ME3, and I hope you are correct about Thanes writer because he does have a different one in ME3. I just hope whoever is writing him now understands the character, and does his story justice.

[Fiery Phoenix]

I just want to know if that Invictus mission is reality; if it is, I'm game. It certainly sounds better than anything I've heard about him.

Modifié par Fiery Phoenix, 03 mars 2012 - 09:04 .

[Thrazesul]

A scripted death will still annoy the hell out of me, no matter how well it's done but I'm the kind of person who HATE characters death. I remember reading a trilogy once and my fave character died in the third book. I was so mad and I havn't touched or mentioned the books since then. Call me childish but... I don't deal with that kind of deaths well.

Also this subject can be discussed to death I think and we won't know until... well whenever. It just makes me saaad. D:

I'll hack the game and put in a happy ending, dangit! >.>

[JECWSU]

Fiery Phoenix wrote...

I just want to know if that Invictus mission is reality; i it is, I'm game. It certainly sounds better than anything I've heard about him.

It's the only bright spot in all of this, so I really hope it wasn't some kind of hoax.

[nitefyre410]

Nerana wrote...

A scripted death will still annoy the hell out of me, no matter how well it's done but I'm the kind of person who HATE characters death. I remember reading a trilogy once and my fave character died in the third book. I was so mad and I havn't touched or mentioned the books since then. Call me childish but... I don't deal with that kind of deaths well.

Also this subject can be discussed to death I think and we won't know until... well whenever. It just makes me saaad. D:

I'll hack the game and put in a happy ending, dangit! >.>

 

its not the death its how the death of the character  is handled. I have see some really crapoy ways to kill of a / character. I have seen some down awesome, tragic and moving  deaths that brought  so much more to a story... Honestly as much as I like  Thane , I can't  picture him surviving its just not him -  he is a warrior to the bone.. almost very samurai like in his ways of thinking. I can see him making a bad ass last stand and you just come  to find him peacefully resting with his rifle on his shoilder.   

I think that would ratther fitting. 

[Thrazesul]

nitefyre410 wrote...
I can see him making a bad ass last stand and you just come  to find him peacefully resting with his rifle on his shoilder.   

The last game that tried that, I stopped playing entierly... Just how I am. xD

Granted that death basically happened offscreen which is the lowest point you can go to kill a character, if you have to.

Modifié par Nerana, 03 mars 2012 - 09:17 .

[nitefyre410]

*delete* 

Modifié par nitefyre410, 03 mars 2012 - 09:42 .

[nitefyre410]

Nerana wrote...

nitefyre410 wrote...
I can see him making a bad ass last stand and you just come  to find him peacefully resting with his rifle on his shoilder.   

The last game that tried that, I stopped playing entierly... Just how I am. xD

Granted that death basically happened offscreen which is the lowest point you can go to kill a character, if you have to.

 

I agree with you there offscreen death is rather disrepectful. 

[Purple_Lobster23]

Oh dear. So Thane might die no matter what you do? Nope, I refuse to believe that. Nope, nope, nope. As someone said before, Mass Effect is a game determined on what the player chooses. Well, I choose to save Thane and have plenty of little green babies and have lots of desert holidays. There has to be an option to save Thane or at least prolong his life, there just has to be.
I'll just continue thinking about what myself and Dovahkiin were talking about: Paragon Hug and Kiss interrupts.

[Asenza]

Thane on page two? When his fans need him most?

This is an outrage!

[JECWSU]

Hopefully once the game comes out there will be more to talk about.
Hopefully something good.

[Purple_Lobster23]

JECWSU wrote...

Hopefully once the game comes out there will be more to talk about.
Hopefully something good.

Hopefully something great. I'm going to try and remain positive - I can't wait until we get to hear Thane's voice. Keythe Farley voices Thane perfectly and I'm really excited to see how he goes in ME3. Someone said that Keythe Farley was really excited for ME3, right? Maybe that means he got some really interesting and emotional dialouge. Maybe even happy dialogue! Maybe even some dialogue that occurs after a, um, you know...*whispers* Paragon Kiss Interrupt..

[Hadeedak]

If there's not going to be more green in this thread, I'm going to have to start DRAWING THANE MYSELF.

And then I'll probably try Garrus. And a krogan. And that's the way to madness.

[Purple_Lobster23]

Trust me, I really, really want to post a heap of pictures of Thane in this thread but I epically fail at it. Posting images never works for me. I'd draw Thane but I have no drawing abilities. So I'll stick to thinking and talking about him. xD

Modifié par Purple_Lobster23, 04 mars 2012 - 02:06 .

[Lucy Glitter]

The sole reason I HATE the scripted death is because of LotSB.

Why say there is a possible cure if you won't do anything with it? ME3 suffers from a lot of dead ends and red herrings. So many hints in the first two games went nowhere in 3 and it's very upsetting from a writing point of view to see things being ignored. Anyone else agree?

Like, pretending it never happened or ignoring it is going to do Jack Shepard (lolol i'm so funnehs) and arrrggghhghghghghghghhghhh. From a writing standpoint, from what I have read, 3 is very very flawed.

[Asenza]

Lucy_Glitter wrote...

The sole reason I HATE the scripted death is because of LotSB.

Why say there is a possible cure if you won't do anything with it? ME3 suffers from a lot of dead ends and red herrings. So many hints in the first two games went nowhere in 3 and it's very upsetting from a writing point of view to see things being ignored. Anyone else agree?

Like, pretending it never happened or ignoring it is going to do Jack Shepard (lolol i'm so funnehs) and arrrggghhghghghghghghhghhh. From a writing standpoint, from what I have read, 3 is very very flawed.

Agree. It's not fans desperately reaching for any solution. THEY mentioned the hanar cure, THEY put Thane's transplant candidacy in the Lair of the Shadow Broker dossier, THEY ressurected Shepard, raising the bar of plausibility in the Mass Effect universe.