Nah, I cried alot with Final Fantasy X. But I was about 19 I think. I shed some real tears for Thane but I was expecting it so I think that helped. I only teared up for Mordin.
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Posté 09 mars 2012 - 03:49
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I cried long and hard, heck I'm taking a break now from my 2nd play through and just got past the part where he goes and I cried just as long and hard. It didn't get any better the 2nd time. I'm heading for the achievements then I am done. This game treated not only Thane's romance poorly but a few others. I think the only one who got screwed worse than Thane was Jacob. He knocked someone else up. I think they wanted us to choose Liara or Kaidan. Too bad, I don't like either of them.
The whole leaked script thing where it was said that it was not to taken as finished or fact. This looked like the leaked script to me EXCEPT they took out some of the good romance lines between Thane and Shep before his death. WTF? They really had no clue as to what the heck they were doing. The dialogue system is horrid. There are many places in there that they auto inserted stuff my Shep would never say. Ok but enough on that.
What really gets me is the following: When he's laying there and needs medical help, my Shep would NEVER just leave just because he told her too. She'd tell him too bad and stay by his side. I'm sure Javik and James could have handled the rest of the troops. He got to say what he wanted to say to her at his end but Shep didn't get the chance to even say "I love you" or anything remotely close. Garbage. After my Shep is heartbroken, not ONE person even mentions him. WTF! I guess someone says Garrus does when he's in front of the Death Wall but not in mine. I found him there and he wants to talk about Ashley (yeah this was my play through where I had no romances before 2). Really? Ashley...hello you dolt, I just lost Thane.
At least Shep remembers Thane when she gives Leng what he deserves.
After I get done earning the achievements, I'm going to just play 2 again and pretend 3 never happened. It will be nothing but a nightmare where Shep wakes up and Thane is next to her in her stolen Cerberus frigate.
The whole leaked script thing where it was said that it was not to taken as finished or fact. This looked like the leaked script to me EXCEPT they took out some of the good romance lines between Thane and Shep before his death. WTF? They really had no clue as to what the heck they were doing. The dialogue system is horrid. There are many places in there that they auto inserted stuff my Shep would never say. Ok but enough on that.
What really gets me is the following: When he's laying there and needs medical help, my Shep would NEVER just leave just because he told her too. She'd tell him too bad and stay by his side. I'm sure Javik and James could have handled the rest of the troops. He got to say what he wanted to say to her at his end but Shep didn't get the chance to even say "I love you" or anything remotely close. Garbage. After my Shep is heartbroken, not ONE person even mentions him. WTF! I guess someone says Garrus does when he's in front of the Death Wall but not in mine. I found him there and he wants to talk about Ashley (yeah this was my play through where I had no romances before 2). Really? Ashley...hello you dolt, I just lost Thane.
At least Shep remembers Thane when she gives Leng what he deserves.
After I get done earning the achievements, I'm going to just play 2 again and pretend 3 never happened. It will be nothing but a nightmare where Shep wakes up and Thane is next to her in her stolen Cerberus frigate.
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Posté 09 mars 2012 - 03:49
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Hainkpe wrote...
I tweeted to Mac Walters, I had too.
@macwalterslives In #ME3, Thane Krios storyline. I had hoped if he was your LI then you could save him, but nothing. No chance. Why?
Mac Walters in Reaper voice: 'Your resistance is futile. Your feelings are nothing. You excist because we allow it and Thane will die because we demand it."
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Posté 09 mars 2012 - 03:57
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Since spoilers are allowed, I'll pop my head in here and give my two cents.
I figured Thane was going to die, and I found myself not minding that so much. He had a good death, and Kolyat wasn't forgotten as I feared he would be.
Everything else involving the 'romance', however, was far worse than I had expected. Meeting up with him in the hospital was nice, and I was under the impression you'd get more than one conversation with him. Instead, I passed Thane multiple times while buying Kaidan gifts and watching Shepard show real emotion around him. You get a couple lines of dialog before the fight with Kai Leng, Thane gets rushed to the hospital, and the final scene happens. I was okay with it from a friendship standpoint, and found it quite touching. For a romanced Thane, however, Shepard seemed rather...stoic. In comparison to ME2, I found it to be a really touching scene, but after seeing Shepard give the VS the monologue when visiting them in the hospital for the first time, I was underwhelmed.
So there's one conversation and a death scene. Okay, that was short, but at least Shepard can grieve, right? Nope. I got all excited seeing Garrus at the memorial wall, but sat there with my jaw wide open when, after mentioning how hard the day was, he talked about how hard it must have been to face Kaidan like that, and asking if Shepard missed Ashley. No word about Thane. Not even a quick little, "Sorry about Krios." We get all these lines about Mordin's death, and nothing about Thane?
The fact that he doesn't qualify for the Paramour achievement is just an extra kick in the quad. I can respect that the writers decided to go for Thane's death, especially if they were going for 'realism', but the fact that no one mentions him after his passing and Shepard doesn't mourn in the slightest is not realistic to me. It's throwing Thane (and Jacob, for that matter, since his treatment was also pretty awful) under the bus.
I figured Thane was going to die, and I found myself not minding that so much. He had a good death, and Kolyat wasn't forgotten as I feared he would be.
Everything else involving the 'romance', however, was far worse than I had expected. Meeting up with him in the hospital was nice, and I was under the impression you'd get more than one conversation with him. Instead, I passed Thane multiple times while buying Kaidan gifts and watching Shepard show real emotion around him. You get a couple lines of dialog before the fight with Kai Leng, Thane gets rushed to the hospital, and the final scene happens. I was okay with it from a friendship standpoint, and found it quite touching. For a romanced Thane, however, Shepard seemed rather...stoic. In comparison to ME2, I found it to be a really touching scene, but after seeing Shepard give the VS the monologue when visiting them in the hospital for the first time, I was underwhelmed.
So there's one conversation and a death scene. Okay, that was short, but at least Shepard can grieve, right? Nope. I got all excited seeing Garrus at the memorial wall, but sat there with my jaw wide open when, after mentioning how hard the day was, he talked about how hard it must have been to face Kaidan like that, and asking if Shepard missed Ashley. No word about Thane. Not even a quick little, "Sorry about Krios." We get all these lines about Mordin's death, and nothing about Thane?
The fact that he doesn't qualify for the Paramour achievement is just an extra kick in the quad. I can respect that the writers decided to go for Thane's death, especially if they were going for 'realism', but the fact that no one mentions him after his passing and Shepard doesn't mourn in the slightest is not realistic to me. It's throwing Thane (and Jacob, for that matter, since his treatment was also pretty awful) under the bus.
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Posté 09 mars 2012 - 04:13
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Aislinn Trista wrote...
stwu wrote...
Aislinn Trista wrote...
I finished my first playthrough (and did everything). I have to say I'm extremely angry, disappointed and utterly robbed. Fail Bioware. Fail.
Good to see you again. I wish you were Biowares lead writer.
Oh believe me, if I was... this ALL would have turned out quite differently.
I wish you had been the writer, because what we got from bioware was a complete joke. How could they possibly think what they gave us was going to be satisfactory.
I don't even know if any fanfic could fix this for me.
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Posté 09 mars 2012 - 04:20
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I wrote this in a PM to Raine_Rose_Hart and thought I'd just share it here since it's OK to spoil:
(I warn you, this is ragey)
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It may sound bitter, but it's almost like Bioware just didn't care about what their fans wanted to see in the romance department. Character interactions seemed quick, sterile and utterly brief.
No, he wouldn't want to sit in a hospital and wither away. It wasn't that Thane died, I could see him sacrificing himself for the right reason. They had a great opportunity to further explore or dramatize the relationship up to and including that point, but they didn't.
What made me angry was the fact that it was handled so casually. I felt like my FemShep had little to no reaction, not to mention the brevity of time spent with him. She didn't even get to tell him 'I love you' or anything of that nature before he passed. They did not do him justice, save for the fact he was able to still kick Kai Leng's ass (regardless of his crippled physical state).
No one on the Normandy mentioned him, or tried to console my character. At all. This also bothered me a great deal. It's like no one even took note of, or cared about his sacrifice. She also seemed to just move on without a second thought, which I find highly un-realistic. Then, to add insult to injury, Kaidan decides to profess his feelings for my Shep shortly after. That's some great tact, Bioware (though it is kinda cool you get a second chance to romance Kaidan).
The only consolation I had was being able to stab Kai Leng in the gut (and that's a renegade interrupt). That just seemed more like a temporary act of catharsis, anyway. Nothing could make me feel better at that point.
Then the scene before attacking Cerberus, in the dream you briefly hear his voice... and that's it. I thought, 'Hey, they could put Thane in this dream' or 'My Shepard could be remembering her time with Thane', but no... my Shep wakes up in her underwear and walks off to do her duty. Nothing.
It's just so disappointing and sad how they handled many of the relationships, not just Thane. And the ending.... don't even get me started there. What a half-hearted, annoyingly vague cop-out. Somehow, I picture everyone at the Bioware office sitting there and making troll faces while rolling around in our money.
I don't believe I'll be purchasing any of their games in the future. It's sad, because I'm a hardcore fan of their games. This however, is utterly unacceptable.
(I warn you, this is ragey)
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It may sound bitter, but it's almost like Bioware just didn't care about what their fans wanted to see in the romance department. Character interactions seemed quick, sterile and utterly brief.
No, he wouldn't want to sit in a hospital and wither away. It wasn't that Thane died, I could see him sacrificing himself for the right reason. They had a great opportunity to further explore or dramatize the relationship up to and including that point, but they didn't.
What made me angry was the fact that it was handled so casually. I felt like my FemShep had little to no reaction, not to mention the brevity of time spent with him. She didn't even get to tell him 'I love you' or anything of that nature before he passed. They did not do him justice, save for the fact he was able to still kick Kai Leng's ass (regardless of his crippled physical state).
No one on the Normandy mentioned him, or tried to console my character. At all. This also bothered me a great deal. It's like no one even took note of, or cared about his sacrifice. She also seemed to just move on without a second thought, which I find highly un-realistic. Then, to add insult to injury, Kaidan decides to profess his feelings for my Shep shortly after. That's some great tact, Bioware (though it is kinda cool you get a second chance to romance Kaidan).
The only consolation I had was being able to stab Kai Leng in the gut (and that's a renegade interrupt). That just seemed more like a temporary act of catharsis, anyway. Nothing could make me feel better at that point.
Then the scene before attacking Cerberus, in the dream you briefly hear his voice... and that's it. I thought, 'Hey, they could put Thane in this dream' or 'My Shepard could be remembering her time with Thane', but no... my Shep wakes up in her underwear and walks off to do her duty. Nothing.
It's just so disappointing and sad how they handled many of the relationships, not just Thane. And the ending.... don't even get me started there. What a half-hearted, annoyingly vague cop-out. Somehow, I picture everyone at the Bioware office sitting there and making troll faces while rolling around in our money.
I don't believe I'll be purchasing any of their games in the future. It's sad, because I'm a hardcore fan of their games. This however, is utterly unacceptable.
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Posté 09 mars 2012 - 04:23
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The intent was not to get an answer. I do not expect one. What I did want to do was convey the confusion I feel as well as the hope that did linger.stwu wrote...
Mac Walters in Reaper voice: 'Your resistance is futile. Your feelings are nothing. You excist because we allow it and Thane will die because we demand it."
In the end, it reminds me very much of how Firefly ended. Only this time we don't get a funeral scene at the end that allows us closure. Instead we get no mention of Thane. He disapppears, it is as if he never existed.
I am going to finish my playthrough this weekend, then go back to SWTOR and Skyrim. ME is done for me. I would rather playthrough ME and ME2 and just leave it there than play this game again.
Sad part is, I know a lot of gamers on my other boards who, like me, have been hopeful and optimistic and now are disappointed. Not that I think anyone cares, they don't. I don't think this is Biowares fault. I think its EA that is at the root of the issue, not only with the LIs storylines like Thanes but also some of the loose ends that just seem to be glossed over in the game.
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Posté 09 mars 2012 - 04:32
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So, here is what Thane inspired me to do today...(such a cheez ball!!). Because I refuse to play right now...have no idea if I can even return to my brand new Shep (male Shep named Kane) for at least a week, after work took my dog for a long walk....granted, I do that EVERY day, but hush....next I took my self on a bike ride up to the top of Tabor (hill in my town), just so my lungs would hurt 
. Okay, I think I've lost it. Too much bad luck these days, combined with my "escape" tool (i.e. ME, DA), deciding I needed MORE bad feelings (looking at you ME3). So, I guess I should say "Thanks, BW." You got me outta the house and away from the T.V. good job! Heeeya!
My only hesitation (besides being depressed about Thane in general), with playing this game any further, is that I have been experiencing a lot of gameplay bugs. Had to restart two missions Palaven's moon (can't remember the name of it), and Grissom's Academy. Also have had a few minor bugs.....kinda funny in fact: Liara's room when having the second convo with her it looks like Cate Shepards neck is broken and twisted to the side. Eventually, Liara starts doing the same thing....we're like a freekin' circus act, HA!!
Another long winded post, sorry. Hope everyone's day was good.....gonna check on a few DA threads, and call it a night. Ciao bela!!!!
. Okay, I think I've lost it. Too much bad luck these days, combined with my "escape" tool (i.e. ME, DA), deciding I needed MORE bad feelings (looking at you ME3). So, I guess I should say "Thanks, BW." You got me outta the house and away from the T.V. good job! Heeeya! My only hesitation (besides being depressed about Thane in general), with playing this game any further, is that I have been experiencing a lot of gameplay bugs. Had to restart two missions Palaven's moon (can't remember the name of it), and Grissom's Academy. Also have had a few minor bugs.....kinda funny in fact: Liara's room when having the second convo with her it looks like Cate Shepards neck is broken and twisted to the side. Eventually, Liara starts doing the same thing....we're like a freekin' circus act, HA!!
Another long winded post, sorry. Hope everyone's day was good.....gonna check on a few DA threads, and call it a night. Ciao bela!!!!
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Posté 09 mars 2012 - 04:53
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I am always a minority, always. So alone.
Although I found his hospital meeting stuff a little awkwardly done I fully expected Thane to die. I knew it for sure cause ME3 needed drama and he was set in stone for potential drama. I was utterly distraught by his death scene and knew we would be getting the letter again since Thane wouldn't have known we had read it. I asked Bioware to make me bawl and they delivered, friendmance, romance. I was utterly destroyed by his passing, I'll miss my drell, my throat tightens everytime I see his name on the memorial wall.
I will admit that things could have been done better, but his death scene, was pretty epic, my heart was in my throat the whole fight, and Kai Leng is done for if we meet again. I will rely on fanfics for my happy behind the scenes stuff, and my head and continue on with the fight. This is real life, sometimes there isn't time to mourn and the only reason people got those lines with Garrus after Mordin died is because it was a potential moment to say you sabotaged the genophage and he is the only person you can tell.
Although I found his hospital meeting stuff a little awkwardly done I fully expected Thane to die. I knew it for sure cause ME3 needed drama and he was set in stone for potential drama. I was utterly distraught by his death scene and knew we would be getting the letter again since Thane wouldn't have known we had read it. I asked Bioware to make me bawl and they delivered, friendmance, romance. I was utterly destroyed by his passing, I'll miss my drell, my throat tightens everytime I see his name on the memorial wall.
I will admit that things could have been done better, but his death scene, was pretty epic, my heart was in my throat the whole fight, and Kai Leng is done for if we meet again. I will rely on fanfics for my happy behind the scenes stuff, and my head and continue on with the fight. This is real life, sometimes there isn't time to mourn and the only reason people got those lines with Garrus after Mordin died is because it was a potential moment to say you sabotaged the genophage and he is the only person you can tell.
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Posté 09 mars 2012 - 04:58
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The problem isn't so much his death. It's the way they treated his romance too.
My shepard should not stand there like it's just another day when the man that she loves has just died. That's not reality. That's just bad writing.
I knew that this is how bioware would handle his death. Shepard just moves on as if nothing happened and not one person even mentions his name. It's like he was never there.This is what bioware expects us to be happy with.
My shepard should not stand there like it's just another day when the man that she loves has just died. That's not reality. That's just bad writing.
I knew that this is how bioware would handle his death. Shepard just moves on as if nothing happened and not one person even mentions his name. It's like he was never there.This is what bioware expects us to be happy with.
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Posté 09 mars 2012 - 05:28
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I doubt they need us to be happy, I felt they were going for more of a distraught vibe. *shrug*
See this is why you don't put all your salarian eggs into one terminally ill Drell basket
, I have a rough time being uber disappointed given how well my non-Thane romance is going. It's hard to be mad when your equally happy, who knew liking Garrus and Thane equally would actually be my saving grace. 
Like I said, it wasn't great, but it made me hurt and that's all I hoped for. Thane in ME3 was very much so a "kinda there" character, not surprising since there are many an opportunity for him to die in the SM.
The only thing I am a little mournful about is that so far BW is literally killing off all my fave sidekicks and leaving my "meh" ones alive. It's like they want my poor Shep miserable.
See this is why you don't put all your salarian eggs into one terminally ill Drell basket
, I have a rough time being uber disappointed given how well my non-Thane romance is going. It's hard to be mad when your equally happy, who knew liking Garrus and Thane equally would actually be my saving grace. Like I said, it wasn't great, but it made me hurt and that's all I hoped for. Thane in ME3 was very much so a "kinda there" character, not surprising since there are many an opportunity for him to die in the SM. The only thing I am a little mournful about is that so far BW is literally killing off all my fave sidekicks and leaving my "meh" ones alive. It's like they want my poor Shep miserable.
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Posté 09 mars 2012 - 05:32
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Hainkpe wrote...
The intent was not to get an answer. I do not expect one. What I did want to do was convey the confusion I feel as well as the hope that did linger.stwu wrote...
Mac Walters in Reaper voice: 'Your resistance is futile. Your feelings are nothing. You excist because we allow it and Thane will die because we demand it."
In the end, it reminds me very much of how Firefly ended. Only this time we don't get a funeral scene at the end that allows us closure. Instead we get no mention of Thane. He disapppears, it is as if he never existed.
I am going to finish my playthrough this weekend, then go back to SWTOR and Skyrim. ME is done for me. I would rather playthrough ME and ME2 and just leave it there than play this game again.
Sad part is, I know a lot of gamers on my other boards who, like me, have been hopeful and optimistic and now are disappointed. Not that I think anyone cares, they don't. I don't think this is Biowares fault. I think its EA that is at the root of the issue, not only with the LIs storylines like Thanes but also some of the loose ends that just seem to be glossed over in the game.
Bolded for point: Okay, wanna marry ya and have weird lil' green babies. Just sayin' cuz it's the internetz and all. Had the same reaction to the end of Serenity as well. Nearly chucked my 695oz cola through the movie screen!! But,,,,and it's a big but (slightly lopsided aaannnnd squishy), Joss W. gave us the closure of a funeral. And if that had actually happened in the series, I believe he would have expanded on it further with dialog and flashbacks. So, Nnnnuuuu!!
Hmmmm, probably should go to bed. Starting to get strange.......er, than normal.
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Posté 09 mars 2012 - 05:40
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I understand that, but if that is what they were going for I think they failed.
I'm sorry, but I've seen a storyline like this hanled better in a soap opera or in a movie. The death scene did make me cry,but Shepards lack of a reaction and the dialogue was a huge disappointment.
I think a lot of us have other romances besides Thane. I know I do, but Thane was my favorite, and his treatment in this game has just left a bad taste in my mouth.
I'm sorry, but I've seen a storyline like this hanled better in a soap opera or in a movie. The death scene did make me cry,but Shepards lack of a reaction and the dialogue was a huge disappointment.
I think a lot of us have other romances besides Thane. I know I do, but Thane was my favorite, and his treatment in this game has just left a bad taste in my mouth.
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Posté 09 mars 2012 - 05:47
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I have no favourites, if I said Thane, Garrus would snipe me, if I say Garrus, Thane would give me that adorable pout... so that I would drop my defences and he could neck-snap me. I refuse to be dour or glum, refuse. So I'll take my crappy Thane romance, and just be glad they included him at all cause I seriously thought he wasn't going to show, I looked in the guide for hours.
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Posté 09 mars 2012 - 05:58
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JECW wrote..
I think a lot of us have other romances besides Thane. I know I do, but Thane was my favorite, and his treatment in this game has just left a bad taste in my mouth.
More the fool, I. I don't have one import where he is not the LI. Unless you count the carryover Kaidan but I don't really because I'll never go that route. Horizon was bad enough and Mars...well, he should have STFU and maybe we could have been friends. Nope, shot him. So I'll be replaying ME2 and acting ME3 was just a horrible dream. Not too hard to do since some of it was just plain horrible. This is why I don't feel bad for killing Shep at the end at least then she can be with him.
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Posté 09 mars 2012 - 06:08
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utaker1988 wrote...
JECW wrote..
I think a lot of us have other romances besides Thane. I know I do, but Thane was my favorite, and his treatment in this game has just left a bad taste in my mouth.
More the fool, I. I don't have one import where he is not the LI. Unless you count the carryover Kaidan but I don't really because I'll never go that route. Horizon was bad enough and Mars...well, he should have STFU and maybe we could have been friends. Nope, shot him. So I'll be replaying ME2 and acting ME3 was just a horrible dream. Not too hard to do since some of it was just plain horrible. This is why I don't feel bad for killing Shep at the end at least then she can be with him.
I don't think anyone is a fool for just having one LI. We like who we like, and Thane fans shouldn't be punished for not picking one of relashionships bioware chose to focus on the most. Even though I have a romance for Garrus and Kaidan Thane is my favorite. He was the one I connected with the most. I have two shepard with him, but I don't know if I can go through this twice.
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Posté 09 mars 2012 - 06:32
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I did go through it twice and it wasn't better the second time around. I did dawdle around though, took my time trying to avoid it. Now my poor Sheps have no one to keep them in line. She was complete renegade in ME and in ME2 until she met him. I am still trying to figure out what happens to Kolyat. Does he stay on the Citadel? If so, then does that mean he dies. And then there are the questions I don't have clear answers too. I know that if Kirrahe is alive and you do not talk to Thane then it is Kirrahe who dies. Does that mean Thane still dies at that point or can it be delayed? I'll probably never know as like in ME2, Shep cannot stay away from him.
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Posté 09 mars 2012 - 06:38
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I tried to delay it as long as I could. I found it so hard to even go to the hospital.
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Posté 09 mars 2012 - 07:13
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Wow I blubbered like an idiot seeing him die, I knew it was going to happen but yeah, glad everyone is out of the house...
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Posté 09 mars 2012 - 08:28
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JECW wrote...
I understand that, but if that is what they were going for I think they failed.
I'm sorry, but I've seen a storyline like this hanled better in a soap opera or in a movie. The death scene did make me cry,but Shepards lack of a reaction and the dialogue was a huge disappointment.
I think a lot of us have other romances besides Thane. I know I do, but Thane was my favorite, and his treatment in this game has just left a bad taste in my mouth.
I agree. It felt like someone read the dialogue from me2 and tried to piece together Thane and Shepard's relationship without listening to any feeling behind it.
I happen to be playing at the same time as my siblings, who romanced Garrus and Tali, and the difference is very obvious. They could have kept him on the Citadel without making the relationship sound they'd both given up on it months ago. Maybe he's keeping tabs on Kolyat. And perhaps, since he can't fight at optimal capacity anymore, he can be Shepard's eyes and ears on the Citadel- the role he ended up playing anyways, but the confirmation would have been nice. Something like 'I cannot fight with you, siha, not like this- but I can watch, I can listen.' Tweak it a little, and it would work for people who are just buddies with him.
I'm just seriously disappointed in how they let his memory basically disappear afterwards. Maybe I'm just not far enough ahead, but come on- no letter from Kolyat? No brief holo-vid? No being able to sit down with Cortez and say 'I understand what you're going through'?
And seriously, no cheevo popping for rekindling a romance? <_<
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Posté 09 mars 2012 - 08:39
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So I compared the non-mance to ThaneMance final scenes. There's what... One, maybe two new lines, and they're about the Councilor. Refers to you as Siha once, maybe. Very disappointing.
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Posté 09 mars 2012 - 08:54
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Miktia wrote...
So I compared the non-mance to ThaneMance final scenes. There's what... One, maybe two new lines, and they're about the Councilor. Refers to you as Siha once, maybe. Very disappointing.
They basically swap Shepard for Siha. It's very.... flat. Sucks, I love his VA and a little more time would have been appreciated.
#6598
Posté 09 mars 2012 - 09:00
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I wish they would of done more...doing Kai-Leng in gave me a bit of satisfaction but no one will replace my favorite drell.
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Posté 09 mars 2012 - 09:01
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I guess I should start off by saying hello. 
I've been lurking here for the last couple months, but I've never really been big into posting on forums. Things change though. XD
I agree with everything you said in your PM.
There has only been two times where I've had to put down the controller and walk away from a game. One of those times is Thane's death. I literally dropped the controller, left the room, and cried. I was expecting so much more. I was hoping for a cure but even if we couldn't cure him, I wanted him to have an honorable death... not die to the disease.
When we first meet him and he's in the hospital... and wants to stay there... all I could ask myself is, "WTH am I missing here?" Okay, maybe he isn't in his best condition, but if the doctors can't do anything more for him... why not come back to the Normandy? We have Chakwas and she's familiar with him and the disease. I'm sure most of us would have been okay with him being back in life support or sharing Shepard's room and letting Kolyat take one of the spare rooms so he didn't have to travel far to see his father or wait for us to return in order to see him. (And they've done something similar before - Anders in DA2 - you can give him the key to your house so he can stay there or opt out and let him stay in Darktown. So, I know they could do something like that if they really wanted to. Different writers, I know, but you get the idea.) If Thane still didn't want to help fight, fine, he didn't have to. I understand, he's in rough shape, but it's not like we don't have other people on the ship that aren't squad members. They even had a chance here to let Kolyat tag along with Shepard or get to know his son. So many things could have been done differently. I'm sorry, maybe it's just me... but if I had to leave someone I loved in the hospital while I was off fighting to save the world, it would eat at me. I'm just going to overlook the fact that Shepard had to leave him for the 6 months while being detained and they lost out on all that time.
One conversation before his death. One. No, I'm sorry, but it didn't sit right with me.
As for the fight, he did his best and I'm glad he was fighting to save someone... honorable. But, the stab wasn't fatal. The death was a cop out, blame the disease. I'm glad Kolyat was there at his side when he passed and wasn't forgotten. I enjoyed the prayer and it being said for Shepard.
No "I love yous" (besides the letter most of us have already seen), no squad interaction after his death (for some of us), my Shepard is walking along and seems fine, and yes - the kick in the gut with the whole achievement thing.
If I said I was disappointed, it would be the understatement of the year. I did one more mission after that whole ordeal, and I'm not sure I'm going to be able to finish the game... at least not right now.
The whole thing was handled poorly.
I've been lurking here for the last couple months, but I've never really been big into posting on forums. Things change though. XDAislinn Trista wrote...
I wrote this in a PM to Raine_Rose_Hart and thought I'd just share it here since it's OK to spoil:
(I warn you, this is ragey)
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I agree with everything you said in your PM.
There has only been two times where I've had to put down the controller and walk away from a game. One of those times is Thane's death. I literally dropped the controller, left the room, and cried. I was expecting so much more. I was hoping for a cure but even if we couldn't cure him, I wanted him to have an honorable death... not die to the disease.
When we first meet him and he's in the hospital... and wants to stay there... all I could ask myself is, "WTH am I missing here?" Okay, maybe he isn't in his best condition, but if the doctors can't do anything more for him... why not come back to the Normandy? We have Chakwas and she's familiar with him and the disease. I'm sure most of us would have been okay with him being back in life support or sharing Shepard's room and letting Kolyat take one of the spare rooms so he didn't have to travel far to see his father or wait for us to return in order to see him. (And they've done something similar before - Anders in DA2 - you can give him the key to your house so he can stay there or opt out and let him stay in Darktown. So, I know they could do something like that if they really wanted to. Different writers, I know, but you get the idea.) If Thane still didn't want to help fight, fine, he didn't have to. I understand, he's in rough shape, but it's not like we don't have other people on the ship that aren't squad members. They even had a chance here to let Kolyat tag along with Shepard or get to know his son. So many things could have been done differently. I'm sorry, maybe it's just me... but if I had to leave someone I loved in the hospital while I was off fighting to save the world, it would eat at me. I'm just going to overlook the fact that Shepard had to leave him for the 6 months while being detained and they lost out on all that time.
One conversation before his death. One. No, I'm sorry, but it didn't sit right with me.
As for the fight, he did his best and I'm glad he was fighting to save someone... honorable. But, the stab wasn't fatal. The death was a cop out, blame the disease. I'm glad Kolyat was there at his side when he passed and wasn't forgotten. I enjoyed the prayer and it being said for Shepard.
No "I love yous" (besides the letter most of us have already seen), no squad interaction after his death (for some of us), my Shepard is walking along and seems fine, and yes - the kick in the gut with the whole achievement thing.
If I said I was disappointed, it would be the understatement of the year. I did one more mission after that whole ordeal, and I'm not sure I'm going to be able to finish the game... at least not right now.
The whole thing was handled poorly.
Modifié par DarkPhoenixAsh, 09 mars 2012 - 09:10 .
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Posté 09 mars 2012 - 10:07
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I couldn't have said it better myself. I've resorted to building a lot of headcanons for myself, since they completely dropped the ball in theThanemance. I couldn't believe Shepard didn't have the option of telling him that she loved him before he died -__-I agree with everything you said in your PM.
There has only been two times where I've had to put down the controller and walk away from a game. One of those times is Thane's death. I literally dropped the controller, left the room, and cried. I was expecting so much more. I was hoping for a cure but even if we couldn't cure him, I wanted him to have an honorable death... not die to the disease.
When we first meet him and he's in the hospital... and wants to stay there... all I could ask myself is, "WTH am I missing here?" Okay, maybe he isn't in his best condition, but if the doctors can't do anything more for him... why not come back to the Normandy? We have Chakwas and she's familiar with him and the disease. I'm sure most of us would have been okay with him being back in life support or sharing Shepard's room and letting Kolyat take one of the spare rooms so he didn't have to travel far to see his father or wait for us to return in order to see him. (And they've done something similar before - Anders in DA2 - you can give him the key to your house so he can stay there or opt out and let him stay in Darktown. So, I know they could do something like that if they really wanted to. Different writers, I know, but you get the idea.) If Thane still didn't want to help fight, fine, he didn't have to. I understand, he's in rough shape, but it's not like we don't have other people on the ship that aren't squad members. They even had a chance here to let Kolyat tag along with Shepard or get to know his son. So many things could have been done differently. I'm sorry, maybe it's just me... but if I had to leave someone I loved in the hospital while I was off fighting to save the world, it would eat at me. I'm just going to overlook the fact that Shepard had to leave him for the 6 months while being detained and they lost out on all that time.
One conversation before his death. One. No, I'm sorry, but it didn't sit right with me.
As for the fight, he did his best and I'm glad he was fighting to save someone... honorable. But, the stab wasn't fatal. The death was a cop out, blame the disease. I'm glad Kolyat was there at his side when he passed and wasn't forgotten. I enjoyed the prayer and it being said for Shepard.
No "I love yous" (besides the letter most of us have already seen), no squad interaction after his death (for some of us), my Shepard is walking along and seems fine, and yes - the kick in the gut with the whole achievement thing.
If I said I was disappointed, it would be the understatement of the year. I did one more mission after that whole ordeal, and I'm not sure I'm going to be able to finish the game... at least not right now.
The whole thing was handled poorly.
