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Hadeedak wrote...

I'm moving fairly slowly, so I just got to the Thane death. I was spazzing over what a badass he was in that scene (Seriously, that was amazing), my (nonromantically involoved) Shep's reactions, and then the hospital.

I do see what people are saying about the romance arch -- makes me nervous, since my Thanemancer is next in line -- but from a friendship path, it seemed pretty amazing. And utterly brutal. But in a good way.


I guess you could say that it was ok form a frienship path, but given how Shepard reacts to Kaidan almost getting killed even the friendship path is lacking a bit.

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Hadeedak wrote...

I'm moving fairly slowly, so I just got to the Thane death. I was spazzing over what a badass he was in that scene (Seriously, that was amazing), my (nonromantically involoved) Shep's reactions, and then the hospital.

I do see what people are saying about the romance arch -- makes me nervous, since my Thanemancer is next in line -- but from a friendship path, it seemed pretty amazing. And utterly brutal. But in a good way.


Agreed, Just did that, it was great and later on very sad. And it will only get worse when I will play with my FemShep who romanced Thane. But yeah, hunting down Kai Leng just became a lot more personal.

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I still want to know why the life support is open and why the cup is still there...

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Nerana wrote...

I still want to know why the life support is open and why the cup is still there...


It's where my Shep weeps after everyone else is sleeping.  :crying:
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Yup, I'm in agreement with describing BW as cruel, heartless and I'll add mean and thoughtless to that.

I've got one Kaidan PT but the rest are Thane, I enjoy trying out the different classes but tend to follow the characters and stories I enjoyed the most (Thane, Mordin, Garrus, Jack) so I'm left with loads of saves that I'll never play. I'll complete my Thane, maybe Kaidan and then... nothing.

I'm totally drained too, I cried when I found out what they'd done (I'm lame, I know) not because of Thane directly but because I'm so upset that BW thought so little of us in the end... individually we have all put as much effort into the game as any other player and I wish that they had respected that.

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I think it's very well done -- for one thing, it's the first time I've EVER cried at a video game and I don't cry at many movies, either -- and I appreciate that. Damn brutal, though. And I wish there were more scenes with him in general, though I sense I'm going to think this about almost every character.

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Not exactly Thane related but I need to vent... so if you don't want to see venting about the game in general just ignore me.



I sound so stupid for saying this but I don't think I can recover from this. I'm very cynical and negative RL already, this will not help. Games have been my way of taking breaks from RL and now the game series that did that... is ruined for me. Sorry if it sounds emo, but it's how I feel at the moment. I was expecting to have fun replying this several times, trying different classes and solutions. Now I won't even touch the game, maybe not even the multiplayer and I had looked forward to that too.

Three games. Several years of being excited. Gone in ten minutes. Now instead I am sitting with years of disappointment. It's not a good feeling.

I'm getting past the mellow sad/disappointed phase.

I am now getting angry. Very. Angry. And I am not expecting Bioware to fix this.

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I'm only halfway through the game, but I will say this.

I've not been the biggest fan of thane. In ME2 he was just that nice guy I usually forgot to talk to before and after his loyalty mission save for his upgrades. He was cool and all, but he didnt seem fit for front line combat (roleplay wise) and I wasn't very interested in him.

Then comes ME3. His introduction... A bit of remembrance. Then came the coup, and he distinguished himself, it was amazing, and it was terrible. And after it was all over... in the hospital...

He was dying, I was sad but I was expecting it. He didn't have much time left, so the scene was playing and kinda rolling over me, and then came the prayer. It was nice little ceremony, but the kicker finally came at the end after he passed.... He wasn't praying for himself, he was praying for me.

I actually cried.

Kai Leng is going to pay.

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Nerana wrote...

Not exactly Thane related but I need to vent... so if you don't want to see venting about the game in general just ignore me.



I sound so stupid for saying this but I don't think I can recover from this. I'm very cynical and negative RL already, this will not help. Games have been my way of taking breaks from RL and now the game series that did that... is ruined for me. Sorry if it sounds emo, but it's how I feel at the moment. I was expecting to have fun replying this several times, trying different classes and solutions. Now I won't even touch the game, maybe not even the multiplayer and I had looked forward to that too.

Three games. Several years of being excited. Gone in ten minutes. Now instead I am sitting with years of disappointment. It's not a good feeling.

I'm getting past the mellow sad/disappointed phase.

I am now getting angry. Very. Angry. And I am not expecting Bioware to fix this.


That's why I'm so upset too, I escape from the grim through games (esp ME and DA) and had an expectation that ME3 could entertain me for a good few months (at least).  Instead it has actually triggered a depression.

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Aislinn Trista wrote...

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Yes. Promoting the 'Cure For Thane' banner and giving people a false sense of hope was cruel and heartless, to say the least. That's me using my 'nice' words.  If I wasn't afraid of getting reprimanded, I'd say more.


It was beyond cruel for them to pretend they actually cared. I guess they though it would make them look good if they supported this.

Another thing that bothers me is them saying all that BS about all romances will get equal treatment. How many times did they say that, and then hand us this. I guess this is their version of equal treatment.

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JECW wrote...

Did anyone get the paramour achievement because I didn't?
I guess they are trying to say this romance never happened.


There's apparently no paramour achivement JECW for Thane in ME3. I didn't get it , couple of my friends didn't get it either.

And even when I thought that Kirrahe taking Thane's place could actually mean something good for romanced Thane....it ended up being only "avoiding the unavoidable".
I really prefered the leaked script over what we got in game. Still can't believe I'm saying this.

Still I would liike to take time again and repeat: I salute to all who saw the core, the very essence of Thane in his impending and necessary death. They won (since BioWare cleary listened to them) and now they can complain over the fact that their Shepards cannot be reunited with their ALIVE LI's and the end of ME3.
What gets me upset the most is that Thane is the only LI, besides Jacob, whose fate is set in stone. You CAN'T change it. I only wonder why would they do that? Why give us false hope only to be so deeply disappointed in the end?

For those who say that his role in ME3 is great and just as they imagined, I can say that I agree. I agree from perspective of someone who didn't romance him and chose a friendship path or didn't really bother much with him at all.

To clarify another thing. The romance dialog isn't actualy much different from the non-romanced Thane lines. We get exactly the same as all of you who didn't romance him get. Exactly the same. Well except that first conversation that clearly does differ from the non-romaned Thane one.

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I think it's weird to see life support open as well. his cup is even still there! I can't help but wonder how quickly the Alliance kicked him off the ship.

I'm playing quinn at the moment (my paragon kadian romance) I haven't even finished penny's me2 game yet, but I probably will. I know it's not the end I wanted for her, but penny is my canon shep and I can't just not do her game.

I was thinking how mad and angry shep is after trying to help the asaries and that is the kind of reaction I wanted Penny to have after losing Thane. angry, telling people she wasn't in the mood for jokes. She did not necessarily have to cry and break down (I will do that enough for her), but mad and let everyone know to keep their distance for a short while.

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Aello89 wrote...

JECW wrote...

Did anyone get the paramour achievement because I didn't?
I guess they are trying to say this romance never happened.


There's apparently no paramour achivement JECW for Thane in ME3. I didn't get it , couple of my friends didn't get it either.


So on top of everything else they don't even give us the credit for completing the romance.
I would really really like to know what they were thinking, or if they were thinking at all when they came up with this.

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The only word I can come up with on how they treated the Cure for Thane, promoting it and then this is....sadistic. That's right, taking pleasure from someone's pain. No I didn't get a paramour achievement either, I guess in their eyes, he doesn't count. At least it made my decision on what to do with her very easy. She died making the galaxy a brighter place. She's across the sea and there is no wondering what happened to her. So, in case they get any bright ideas on trolling us with a Shep lives dlc or god forbid another game (I know they said never but gaming companies are good for backtracking on that if the money is good enough), I won't have to bother because my Shep is forever dead.

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JECW wrote...

So on top of everything else they don't even give us the credit for completing the romance.
I would really really like to know what they were thinking, or if they were thinking at all when they came up with this.


It's almost laughable, if I wasn't busy crying.

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JECW wrote...

Aello89 wrote...

JECW wrote...

Did anyone get the paramour achievement because I didn't?
I guess they are trying to say this romance never happened.


There's apparently no paramour achivement JECW for Thane in ME3. I didn't get it , couple of my friends didn't get it either.


So on top of everything else they don't even give us the credit for completing the romance.
I would really really like to know what they were thinking, or if they were thinking at all when they came up with this.


Its quite disgusting, I don't want to get the paramour acheivement with any other character on principle.

@utaker1988 'sadistic' , yes! another very apt description.

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Ugh - what's worse is Thane dies, Kaidan hits on you. I did a save and tried it - if I say something like, yeah let's do this, I get the paramour achievement AND at the end I tell him I love him? WTF?? Thane died RECENTLY but apparently I've loved Kaidan forever. Seriously. So brutal. Terrible writing. Brutal. Should I say that again? Brutal.

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Kaidan never got the opportunity to corner me after Thane died. I shot him because he was in the way of me getting Udina. Does he do this even if you tell him it's true about you and Thane? Because if so, then that would be the one of the biggest lack of tact I could possibly fathom.

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Okay my lovely Thanemancers, I thought I would write in a little something that I did today. When I wrote earlier that I was in the process of packing away my ME discs (yes, all of them), I really meant it! I boxed them up (I am admittedly messy....drives my husband batty, HA!), and put them on the shelf backwards, so I can't even read the titles. I'm such a dork! BUT BUT BUT......it really did help!!! Go figure. I almost immediately felt better.

Hmmmm, I guess the old adage of "Out of sight, out of mind" rang true for me. NOW I'm not suggesting that you all should do this, but I just found it interesting that it actually made me feel better. It was a good move for me.

If I had some Thane art right now, I'd post it, but alas......

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coldwetn0se wrote...

Okay my lovely Thanemancers, I thought I would write in a little something that I did today. When I wrote earlier that I was in the process of packing away my ME discs (yes, all of them), I really meant it! I boxed them up (I am admittedly messy....drives my husband batty, HA!), and put them on the shelf backwards, so I can't even read the titles. I'm such a dork! BUT BUT BUT......it really did help!!! Go figure. I almost immediately felt better.

Hmmmm, I guess the old adage of "Out of sight, out of mind" rang true for me. NOW I'm not suggesting that you all should do this, but I just found it interesting that it actually made me feel better. It was a good move for me.

If I had some Thane art right now, I'd post it, but alas......


Glad you're feeling a bit better, I may do this once I've finished the game... I'm going to find it hard to let go though, I was so looking forward to this :(

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wildannie wrote...

coldwetn0se wrote...

Okay my lovely Thanemancers, I thought I would write in a little something that I did today. When I wrote earlier that I was in the process of packing away my ME discs (yes, all of them), I really meant it! I boxed them up (I am admittedly messy....drives my husband batty, HA!), and put them on the shelf backwards, so I can't even read the titles. I'm such a dork! BUT BUT BUT......it really did help!!! Go figure. I almost immediately felt better.

Hmmmm, I guess the old adage of "Out of sight, out of mind" rang true for me. NOW I'm not suggesting that you all should do this, but I just found it interesting that it actually made me feel better. It was a good move for me.

If I had some Thane art right now, I'd post it, but alas......


Glad you're feeling a bit better, I may do this once I've finished the game... I'm going to find it hard to let go though, I was so looking forward to this :(


I completely understand, Annie.  Posted Image  If I end up have the dreams I had last night though, I might be right back where I started...BAH!

But, I will take what I can..........with beer. Posted Image
One day I might be able to finish my ginuea pig Shep, but till then.....Elves and Dwarves for everyone!!

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wildannie wrote...

coldwetn0se wrote...

Okay my lovely Thanemancers, I thought I would write in a little something that I did today. When I wrote earlier that I was in the process of packing away my ME discs (yes, all of them), I really meant it! I boxed them up (I am admittedly messy....drives my husband batty, HA!), and put them on the shelf backwards, so I can't even read the titles. I'm such a dork! BUT BUT BUT......it really did help!!! Go figure. I almost immediately felt better.

Hmmmm, I guess the old adage of "Out of sight, out of mind" rang true for me. NOW I'm not suggesting that you all should do this, but I just found it interesting that it actually made me feel better. It was a good move for me.

If I had some Thane art right now, I'd post it, but alas......


Glad you're feeling a bit better, I may do this once I've finished the game... I'm going to find it hard to let go though, I was so looking forward to this :(


I understand how you feel.
I wasn't looking forward to this game though. I was so worried that they would do exactly what they did that I couldn't get excited for this game at all.

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JECW wrote...

I understand how you feel.
I wasn't looking forward to this game though. I was so worried that they would do exactly what they did that I couldn't get excited for this game at all.


You were right to be cautious, I did have fears but I guess I didn't think they would be so mean... my language is so nice on this forum, but the air is blue at home... I swear like a trooper at the best of times :lol: 

.... *remembers what BW has done to Thane* :mellow::unsure::crying::(:sick:

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I was also wondering if you guys noticed that after Thane dies, Kai Leng sends you that letter... then to add yet another proverbial slap in the face:

Thane's letter from LotSB gets delivered to your inbox, which I'm sure he arranged to happen after he died. Talk about removing your heart through your throat, tossing it on the floor and stomping on it.

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wildannie wrote...

JECW wrote...

I understand how you feel.
I wasn't looking forward to this game though. I was so worried that they would do exactly what they did that I couldn't get excited for this game at all.


You were right to be cautious, I did have fears but I guess I didn't think they would be so mean... my language is so nice on this forum, but the air is blue at home... I swear like a trooper at the best of times :lol: 

.... *remembers what BW has done to Thane* :mellow::unsure::crying::(:sick:


I still had just a little hope that this wouldn't happen. I will never understand why they decided that the ME2 cast was was worthless and just tossed them aside. What was the point of giving us new LI's. Why did they tell us these romances would be treated the same. Did they even like any of the characters in ME2.

They should have just told us not to get attached to these characters because they are only temporary and they won't get a satisfactory conclusion to their romance. It would have saved me a lot of heartache.