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[Thrazesul]

I believe Thane had arranged the letter to be delievered at his death, so I don't think Kai Leng sent it. After all, he had arranged for a package to be sent to Kolyat at his death.

Doesn't make the whole thing any easier. I was itching to kill Kai Leng for a loooong while...

Modifié par Nerana, 10 mars 2012 - 02:59 .

[JECW]

Does Kai Leng send the LotSB letter or does he send a different one.

[coldwetn0se]

I have never been one to care about achievements, but I will use some of them as guides. For example: if you get the Paramour achievement for Thane's romance in ME2 (which generally you can only get those romance achievements if you triggered the romance flag and had the bedroom scene/last romance scene), then you should get a FULL romance arc, and be rewarded with the same achievement as the previous game.

Thane was NOT a quasi-romance in ME2. Should NOT be such in ME3!

Gonna pet my pug.....soft, calming.

[Cyansomnia]

Nerana wrote...

I believe Thane had arranged the letter to be delievered at his death, so I don't think Kai Leng sent it. After all, he had arranged for a package to be sent to Kolyat at his death.

Doesn't make the whole thing any easier. I was itching to kill Kai Leng for a loooong while...

You misread what I typed.  I meant, you get the letter where Kai Leng taunts you (which made me rage all over the place).  Then you also get the letter from Thane.

[Lucy Glitter]

Guys, if it makes you feel better, all ME2 romances (aside from Garrus and Tali... kinda) were terrible. Jacob cheats on you!

[Maera Imrov]

Nerana wrote...

Not exactly Thane related but I need to vent... so if you don't want to see venting about the game in general just ignore me.



I sound so stupid for saying this but I don't think I can recover from  this. I'm very cynical and negative RL already, this will not help. Games have been my way of taking breaks from RL and now the game series that did that... is ruined for me. Sorry if it sounds emo, but it's how I feel at the moment. I was expecting to have fun replying this several times, trying different classes and solutions. Now I won't even touch  the game, maybe not even the multiplayer and I had looked forward to that too.

Three games. Several years of being excited. Gone in ten minutes. Now instead I am sitting with years of disappointment. It's not a good feeling.

I'm getting past the mellow sad/disappointed phase.

I am now getting angry. Very. Angry. And I am not expecting Bioware to fix this.

Sums it up nicely. I've been in a funk I just can't seem to shake for several months now. It used to come and go, now it never goes. This game, despite me intentionally not letting myself get hyped, and in fact largely ignoring all info until a week out, has disappointed and depressed me even more. I really didn't need that.

So I keep vascillating between angry and depressed. I've known about the endings for about a week prior to launch, and because of them, and then subsequently finding out what happens to Thane, I just can't be bothered to finish ME3. And on a lesser tangent of Thane, perhaps it was just my game being glitchy, but when my FemShep reunited with him, it looked like they were supposed to be holding hands or something but instead she was just holding her hand way above his and doing something odd with it. It was stupidly jarring. As was the kiss, really. Maybe my PC was just being strange.

JECW wrote...

Aislinn Trista wrote...

@Shepenwepet

Yes. Promoting the 'Cure For Thane' banner and giving people a false sense of hope was cruel and heartless, to say the least. That's me using my 'nice' words.  If I wasn't afraid of getting reprimanded, I'd say more.

It was beyond cruel for them to pretend they actually cared. I guess they though it would make them look good if they supported this.

Another thing that bothers me is them saying all that BS about all romances will get equal treatment. How many times did they say that, and then hand us this. I guess this is their version of equal treatment.

And then there is this. Talking about the banner, promoting it then, 'lolsorry, nothing you do can save him.' Meh. Yeah, it was well done. Yes, it was -more or less- a fitting end. Doesn't mean I didn't want another option for him. There were teasers of at least hope, and then nothing. Even if it had drastic costs in War Assets to save him, it still could have been a choice. Meh.

Modifié par Maera Imrov, 10 mars 2012 - 03:18 .

[JECW]

Aislinn Trista wrote...

Nerana wrote...

I believe Thane had arranged the letter to be delievered at his death, so I don't think Kai Leng sent it. After all, he had arranged for a package to be sent to Kolyat at his death.

Doesn't make the whole thing any easier. I was itching to kill Kai Leng for a loooong while...

You misread what I typed.  I meant, you get the letter where Kai Leng taunts you (which made me rage all over the place).  Then you also get the letter from Thane.

It's really sad that the only time Thane is mentioned is in a letter to taunt you from the psycho that killed him, and from Sheaprd when she kills leng.

[coldwetn0se]

Lucy_Glitter wrote...

Guys, if it makes you feel better, all ME2 romances (aside from Garrus and Tali... kinda) were terrible. Jacob cheats on you!

Nope, it doesn't make me feel better, just bad for others that also suffered.  All the romances should have been treated respectfully.  But I do understand your sentiment. 

Cookies??

[Sealy]

Hadeedak wrote...

I'm moving fairly slowly, so I just got to the Thane death. I was spazzing over what a badass he was in that scene (Seriously, that was amazing), my (nonromantically involoved) Shep's reactions, and then the hospital.

I do see what people are saying about the romance arch -- makes me nervous, since my Thanemancer is next in line -- but from a friendship path, it seemed pretty amazing. And utterly brutal. But in a good way.

That... so that. I mean he put my heart in my throat the whole scene, he was amazing. It was a beautifully done fight scene. My only problem was I had myself and Garrus and Liara too, and apparently we were all too stunned by all the pretty to -oh I don't know- help? Also from a romance standpoint, my shep wouldn't care if he brought the councilers down and lined them up to die, she wouldn't have left Thane stabbed and alone.

[Levvi]

 I don't know what everyone is so upset about. Thane clearly got an emergency lung transplant after his fight with Kai Leng and lived.

[Hadeedak]

As a vanguard, I had Garrus and Javik. If there'd been a 'flatten this guy' option, I would have taken it. That being said, beyond Thane's illness, I think that's another reason they kept the fight in fairly close quarters, without much moving around -- to prevent an obvious moment for Shepard and co to take the shot.

And with Thane using the gun, it really seemed like he was weakened compared to the cutscenes and cinematics from 2, but still Thane. Tears started going the second I saw him. Great job on showing he was sick without saying it. That damn scene was brutal.

It's worth noting this Shepard's close circle of friends was Garrus, Tali, Thane, Samara and Mordin. I also timed it really badly so Thane and Mordin went down right after each other (something I won't be doing on subsequent playthroughs unless I decide to pick on a Shep). I'm not sure there's enough booze in the world for her.

[Raven_26]

Hainkpe wrote...

Fleshdress wrote...
Also from a romance standpoint, my shep wouldn't care if he brought the councilers down and lined them up to die, she wouldn't have left Thane stabbed and alone.

This! I can not begin to express my anger and outrage. Shepard left him. She left HIM! Stabbed and bleeding to chase after that... that.... Ugh!  WTH? Seriously. GHA!

I need to... ugh.

I completly agree with this, also - Spoiler-

What really made me somewhat mad as well, was that after Thane dies and you romanced him (with or with no romance from ME1) no one, not even shepard say's one thing about it!! - I mean they comment on Mordin and Legion, but Thane gets noting? :'(   - that made me just so sad:(

[coldwetn0se]

Levvi wrote...

 I don't know what everyone is so upset about. Thane clearly got an emergency lung transplant after his fight with Kai Leng and lived.

I like this Thanemancer - they understand.

[Raiil]

Hainkpe wrote...

Fleshdress wrote...
Also from a romance standpoint, my shep wouldn't care if he brought the councilers down and lined them up to die, she wouldn't have left Thane stabbed and alone.

This! I can not begin to express my anger and outrage. Shepard left him. She left HIM! Stabbed and bleeding to chase after that... that.... Ugh!  WTH? Seriously. GHA!

I need to... ugh.

I could understand the need to do so- galaxy at stake, idiot politicians who can't take care of themelves, Shepard is made of sheer firepower and Duty, etc- but the line he gives to a friend is better, sadly enough, imho.


Most of my issues is with the writing, to be honest. I knew there was a good chance he was going to die but did they have to make all the interactions so flat?

[utaker1988]

Shep leaving him was wrong on many levels, I was pissed and shocked. I would not have left him there, just as I would not ever leave my husband there, duty to the military or not. At this point, what were they going to do? Court martial the person they want to save the galaxy...I think not.  After watching Thane kick Leng around I thought, "hmmm, another contradiction, he couldn't come on the Normandy for light duty but he can do this?" I swear I wasn't going to drag him to Pragia this time. He could have just stood around and looked pretty. Gave her some much needed moral guidance. When having Ashley alive he mentions her as being or going to be in the same physical therapy group as him. Well, on the Normandy, Shep could have given him free physical therapy. :innocent:   Heck, I would have taken Kolyat with me as well if it pacified him.  I'm sure Thane and Javik would have gotten along wonderfully.  

[coldwetn0se]

utaker1988 wrote...

Shep leaving him was wrong on many levels, I was pissed and shocked. I would not have left him there, just as I would not ever leave my husband there, duty to the military or not. At this point, what were they going to do? Court martial the person they want to save the galaxy...I think not.  After watching Thane kick Leng around I thought, "hmmm, another contradiction, he couldn't come on the Normandy for light duty but he can do this?" I swear I wasn't going to drag him to Pragia this time. He could have just stood around and looked pretty. Gave her some much needed moral guidance. When having Ashley alive he mentions her as being or going to be in the same physical therapy group as him. Well, on the Normandy, Shep could have given him free physical therapy. :innocent:   Heck, I would have taken Kolyat with me as well if it pacified him.  I'm sure Thane and Javik would have gotten along wonderfully.  

Bolded for point.  I TOTALLY think he would have gotten on with Javik, and I can imagine some very interesting dialogues from those two.

Oh, and agree with everything else you wrote.  Definately a character assassination......see what I did there??

[Aeyl]

When you're fighting Kai Leng on Thessia, he says, "Your friend Thane died like a coward." Props to Bioware for making me feel such intense hatred towards an imaginary character, hahahahaha (Just did that part of the game which is why I'm bringing it up)

Modifié par Aeyl, 10 mars 2012 - 07:17 .

[utaker1988]

I just passed that point a little while ago in my second play through, I got angry, saved and turned it off. He's done for tomorrow. Ugh, he's just an irritating little runt. For just a second, I wished I was being taunted by Harbinger again.

[LoliLiana]

 - Spoiler-

What really made me somewhat mad as well, was that after Thane dies and you romanced him (with or with no romance from ME1) no one, not even shepard say's one thing about it!! - I mean they comment on Mordin and Legion, but Thane gets noting? :'(   - that made me just so sad:(

Ok...on my second playthrough and this was what I was really hoping for after just finishing up his death scene.  I am now just bummed.  All I wanted was mention of his passing as perhaps a bridging between Shep and her previous romance/break up with the ME1 companion.  Since it was pretty blatantly implied of my "cheating" (hard for us PS3 users who have only ME2 as the experience) on them.  This made a great excuse to reconcile...or whatever.

I have a hard time bridging an attachment to the ME1 sadly.  Bioware...you ever curious to the rage I sometimes I get with you?  Well this is the finest example.  Of course I grew severely attached to Thane.  First romance choice "ever" in the ME universe.  Just to see that this character you used plenty for ME2 advertising was sort of jipped in the end for this game was depressing.

Despite...maybe these terrible endings aren't so bad since she'll rejoin him across the sea.  *le sigh*

Modifié par LoliLiana, 10 mars 2012 - 07:34 .

[Shepenwepet]

Aeyl wrote...

When you're fighting Kai Leng on Thessia, he says, "Your friend Thane died like a coward." Props to Bioware for making me feel such intense hatred towards an imaginary character, hahahahaha (Just did that part of the game which is why I'm bringing it up)

 Ah, so that's what he says. I prefer the version I got, "Your friend Thane diedRECHARGING SHIELDS!"

[Verly]

Aeyl wrote...

When you're fighting Kai Leng on Thessia, he says, "Your friend Thane died like a coward." Props to Bioware for making me feel such intense hatred towards an imaginary character, hahahahaha (Just did that part of the game which is why I'm bringing it up)

I was thinking...well, Thane wanted you to know you are a loser and a poor excuse for an assassin.

[Aeyl]

Shepenwepet wrote...

Aeyl wrote...

When you're fighting Kai Leng on Thessia, he says, "Your friend Thane died like a coward." Props to Bioware for making me feel such intense hatred towards an imaginary character, hahahahaha (Just did that part of the game which is why I'm bringing it up)

 Ah, so that's what he says. I prefer the version I got, "Your friend Thane diedRECHARGING SHIELDS!"

Hahahaha, oh gosh

If there is any more dialogue in this game from Thane (perhaps in a dream), I'm hoping I don't get one of those conversation blips. Already had a pep talk from Garrus blip to "You're the only one who can" halfway through a sentence

Edit: @Verly: Yeah, considering that Thane was pretty much suffocating during the entire fight, and still had the upper hand for most of it...And then KL needed a gunship to bring me down....It appears that there is some lingering insecurity.

Modifié par Aeyl, 10 mars 2012 - 08:26 .

[Raiil]

Eh, actually, if you're good enough (and Thane's generally good enough ) it's better to close the distance if your attacker has a hand-held bladed or blunt object. Once you're within a certain proximity, they've effectively lost use of one hand due to lack of distance and the inability to generate the force needed to really injure you, and it's easier to disarm them or throw them to the ground.