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[MassStorm]

Thane....Thane.... "Ah yes! We dismissed that claim!"

[kaykayhyde]

So this might be an old speculation, but I'm going to say it anyway.
I expect his cure to be DLC that won't be released til the end of the run.
Wild speculation but how it plays out in my head - he WILL die.  However, about 8 months later (long enough to kind of get over it but not completely), Thane's cure DLC is going to come out.

[JECWSU]

Gnas wrote...

Haters will hate.

Besides, its up to BW to decide Thane's fate. Thankfully.

I completely agree Gnas.
 
so does Thane.

[jtav]

It's not necessarily hatred to want Thane to die. I want him to die because I signed on for a tragic romance and I want that promise fulfilled. I don't want him to die offscreen, and his death may not necessarily interfere with a sizable role in ME3, but I'll be extremely annoyed if he's cured.

[magelet]

I agree with jtav. It wouldn't be a total game-ruiner for me if he dies. I mean, I'd prefer that he didn't, although not if it was in a deus ex machina kind of way.
If they make his death appropriately tragic and deep, then it could work for me.

[CheeseEnchilada]

Jtav has a point. I want Thane treated, no doubt about it, but a deus ex machina cure, even if from Reaper technology, would have to be done really well for me to fully accept it story-wise. In my mind, it boils down to four options:

-If they outright cure him, the selfish part of me will be delighted. The part of me that craves a good story and solid writing would be very put-off, unless they did it in a way that doesn't come across as contrived. I'm sure they could do it, but I'm skeptical.

-Treatment, like the oft-talked about lung transplant. I still maintain this is the best option. Metastasis has already taken place to vital organs, so it isn't a cure, but it'll give him a little time. We get to keep him around through ME3, and it's a good opportunity for character development. Thane still dies from his disease, but in the epilogue or off-screen, it isn't contrived and has already been mentioned in-story. And if you want to kill him off that badly, you had a chance in ME2 and will probably have another in ME3.

-Thane dies of Kepral's. If they make this emotional and heartfelt, I'd end up being okay with it. Would I prefer him being treated? Of course, as that above bullet so obviously states. But if it was truly emotionally engaging and a wonderfully done scene that isn't forgotten in five minutes, I'll respect the decision the writers made.

-Thane dies in-between games, and you get a letter from Kolyat stating so. If that happens, I will eat my controller.

Modifié par CheeseEnchilada, 20 juillet 2011 - 03:56 .

[Raiil]

CheeseEnchilada wrote...



-Thane dies in-between games, and you get a letter from Kolyat stating so. If that happens, I will eat my controller.

I will be right behind you.


However, I really doubt they're going to kill Thane off before the game, if only for the epic catfight that keeps getting bantered about (more like battle of the passive-aggressive, but whatever). I'm betting on him making it through to the end of the mission. In fact, I'm counting on it, because I want an ending where Shepard and their LI can sacrifice themselves to save humanity. It would be a fitting end for them, I think. Two bone-weary soldiers giving their all to make the galaxy a better place.

[CheeseEnchilada]

51ha wrote...

Well the game will be totally ruined for me if he does die. And this is for numerous reasons not just emotional. The stupidity of dying from infection in a sci-fi, not having a big impact on the story, Shepard acting afterwards like nothing happened, no character development, existence of cryostasis pods...

I will not be able to play the game. So there. Which is worse I ask you? You being annoyed or me not being able to play the game (not buying the game).

If Thane dies and I don't see any of these things, I am going to be seriously aggrivated. But what if he does get these things? If he dies near the end of the game, after having struggled and finally come to terms with his death, after seeing Kolyat finally forgive him? If we have other squadmates ask if Shepard's okay, if she can mention him in dialog and be able to mourn? If his death can affect the morale of the squad, of Shepard? Will his death be okay then?

Believe me, I want him to live too. But we don't know what the writers will do, and we are dealing with a terminally ill character here. It's always good to prepare for the worst, no matter how much the thought sucks. Not that anyone has to stop waving flags for cures and treatments, of course! 

[CheeseEnchilada]

 But he could come to terms with the fact that he doesn't want to die but has to accept it again and...gah, I am grasping at straws here. Treatment is the best option, especially for character development. It's hard to see where any character development comes in with death, and it makes sense for him to take the option for Kolyat if nothing else. You gain so much more from getting him to understand he deserves a second chance than killing him off.

And you're probably right. Again. I'm nervous and trying to convince myself that if they kill him, it'll be done well...but yeah. It'll probably be a one-scene thing. And unless we see that scene in the epilogue, I won't be pleased.

I've been such a bad fan, take me back? 

[Artanisia]

I just hope that BW makes the clash of the LIs into nice little snarkfests. Apart from that, I try not to imagine any scenarios. Especially scenarios where Thane might be dead of dying. I know myself: once I start going down that route, I just end up painting it all in doom and gloom...

[Tasha vas Nar Rayya]

As long as there is a really emotional scene which has a lot of depth and meaning to it, then I can understand if Thane woud die. I wouldn't like it to be compulsory though. I just think it will be the easiest way to appease to the audience. Some people feel that a cure would go against what his character was set up to be, or that it may on some way cheapen his character.

But others want their Sihas to continue being with Thane and will do anything to do so

However, I like the Mass Effect games for more than just Thane (although he contributes!) And I am sure ME3 will not dissappoint me.

[wildannie]

I'm pretty much with 5iha in that if Thane's death is canon, it will largely ruin the game for me. There is no way in which they could kill off Thane that would not put a massive dampener upon my enjoyment. I'd be lying if I said I wouldn't play it but probably only once, no DLC.

In general I *hate* death scenes, they make me feel sad, I play games for fun and escapism, not angst.

[magelet]

I think it would be best if Thane is neither cured nor killed in ME3. Just...that he still has Keprals and hasn't died. That way they'd avoid fanrage from killing him and the awkwardness of deus ex machina.

[JECWSU]

wildannie wrote...

I'm pretty much with 5iha in that if Thane's death is canon, it will largely ruin the game for me. There is no way in which they could kill off Thane that would not put a massive dampener upon my enjoyment. I'd be lying if I said I wouldn't play it but probably only once, no DLC.

In general I *hate* death scenes, they make me feel sad, I play games for fun and escapism, not angst.

I pretty much agree with every thing you have said.

If Thane is not in this ME3 I'm not going to enjoy it. I will still buy the game. It just won't be as fun for me, and I probably won't replay it as much as I did ME1 and 2.

Death scenes are depressing, and in video games they usually do nothing for me. I know Virmire was suppose to be emotional, but I felt nothing while watching it. 

I agee that maybe the transplant is the best option. He isn't cured, but he will still be alive for ME3.

Modifié par JECWSU, 21 juillet 2011 - 12:38 .

[Plakto]

I am going to briefly note on this because its’ 2:00am Est and I really should be in bed, but this needs to be said.
Why is it that Thane’s death is MUST for the story to be canon / no fanservice / any good? I can’t wrap my head around it.
Tali is a walker immune system disorder. She is exposed daily to things that could incapacitate her or consequently end her life without a moment’s notice. HOWEVER, she can have sex with Manshep with little more than a stuffy nose for a few days. Little to no consequences at all for her supposed life endangering actions.
Garrus is completely sexually incompatible with humans. Our proteins are poison to one another, however everybody screams at the very thought of banging the dinosaur. Mind you, it’s an amazing character and I like him a lot, but it still frustrates me how both these romances can be pursued with little to no consequences, however when fans gather to sing songs and hold hands about how they wish for thane to be cured – we monsters worthy of trolling because “HE SHOULD TATALLY DIE KTHX. ITS TRAGIC N COOL.”
Why must someone die in a romance for it to be any good? No, we don’t always get a happy ending, but I think Bioware has made that very clear in other romances for other games. Bioware stings female players with a hot poker in romances time and time again, and here some of you are, in a thane support thread, begging to them to poke you again, to break you little masochistic heart; and have the gall to call us wanting a “miracle cure” if we wish for a better future.

the reason why bioware cures thane in Me3 - his fanbase was strong and people wanted it. its why you got a romance for garrus and tali from me1 to me2. Why are we wrong for wanting a change for our favorite character?

[Raiil]

Actually, there are a decent number of people who didn't romance him that would like for him to be alive/keep him cured. We just happen to be the loudest, for obvious reasons.

On the other hand, it's no more unreasonable to want to see the conclusion of Thane's journey as his death. I don't want him to die, but I- and the rest of us- went into the romance/friendship knowing that his time was limited. It's not canon one way or another if he survives, and I suspect it will be partially up to us whether he survives past end-game, but wanting him to exit the series doesn't make a person horrible or a jerk either.

In the old thread, I said I'd rather have Thane die in a glorious fashion than have some hackneyed device introduced- an off-screen miracle cure, essentially- that completely subverted his character, and I got flamed to a crisp for saying that. If people want a calm, rational discussion or response, they have to be open to giving one as well. There are equally intelligent, passionate reasons for wanting him alive as there are for having him die in-game. You don't have to actively dislike him to want to see his death. All people see the characters in different ways. Those of us in this thread have a vested interest in keeping him alive- we romanced him and we all want our happy ending. But BioWare shouldn't cater to us against the wishes of others, either. They should write a damn good story and with any luck, we'll be able to get it, but it's still ultimately one thread in a giant tapestry.

[JECWSU]

I don't know why any of these people who want him to die care. Some of them don't really like his character. A lot of them didn't even talk to him much less romance him, because half the time they get the information about him wrong. What difference does it make if he lives or dies. I don't know why he has to die or it will ruin his character. That makes no sense to me. No one seems to have a problem with playing someone who was dead for two years, but somehow a cure for Thane is the worst thing ever.

I also like to think that Bioware never had any real intention of killing him. Just because they gave him this disease doesn't mean that they actually planned on letting him die.

[Raiil]

Some people find that a miracle cure would cheapen the deepness of his character. Part of who he is is a dying man looking for one more chance to shed light onto a galaxy he knows to be dark and painful in places. Whether giving him a reason to go on is a good enough reason to get that cure is ultimately personal interpretation, not something rooted in fact. Thane is a classic atoner, throwing himself into deadly situations because he's dying and this is his last chance to make the world better.

Some people, yes, dislike him. Their opinion weighs as much as ours.


Some people want that tragic romance, for Shepard to find real love- and then lose it because the world is a s--tty place and we don't always get what we deserve it. Others want to bow to the grief of losing a good man and a good friend.


There are reasons to keep him alive, and reasons to keep him dead.

[JECWSU]

Those reasons would be fine if I thought most of these people actually cared about him. Judging from that one thread, and some of the others I've seen they don't. Most of the time I don't see any of those reasons you gave listed. It's always the same thing. He needs to die. His disease defines him. If he doesn't die it will ruin him. They can never see past that disease. They can never give a good reason why he should die.