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Xeyska wrote...

JECW wrote...

If you don't go talk to Thane I know he doesn't end up fighting Kai Leng, and he still dies. Do you still get the death scene with him. I haven't tried it myself.


You don't get a death scene at all, I'm not sure if his name still appears on the Memorial Board though.

So you don't get a death scene at all. He's just dead and that's it.
You can't even go back and get the dialogue a little later?

It remindes me of how Cerberus turns Jack into some phantom if you don't go to Grissom Academy, and you don't find out until you get to the Cerberus base. Then you have to kill her.

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JECW wrote...
So you don't get a death scene at all. He's just dead and that's it.
You can't even go back and get the dialogue a little later?

It remindes me of how Cerberus turns Jack into some phantom if you don't go to Grissom Academy, and you don't find out until you get to the Cerberus base. Then you have to kill her.


After the Citadel Coup, he just disappears off-screen. Thane doesn't have any more dialogue beyond first meeting him, during the coup, and at his death bed.

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JECW wrote...

Xeyska wrote...

JECW wrote...

If you don't go talk to Thane I know he doesn't end up fighting Kai Leng, and he still dies. Do you still get the death scene with him. I haven't tried it myself.


You don't get a death scene at all, I'm not sure if his name still appears on the Memorial Board though.

So you don't get a death scene at all. He's just dead and that's it.
You can't even go back and get the dialogue a little later?

It remindes me of how Cerberus turns Jack into some phantom if you don't go to Grissom Academy, and you don't find out until you get to the Cerberus base. Then you have to kill her.


His name still appears on the Memorial Board, that's the only mention he gets if you don't go talk to him.

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Xeyska wrote...

JECW wrote...
So you don't get a death scene at all. He's just dead and that's it.
You can't even go back and get the dialogue a little later?

It remindes me of how Cerberus turns Jack into some phantom if you don't go to Grissom Academy, and you don't find out until you get to the Cerberus base. Then you have to kill her.


After the Citadel Coup, he just disappears off-screen. Thane doesn't have any more dialogue beyond first meeting him, during the coup, and at his death bed.


I know that part.
What I wanted to know was if you never talk to Thane I know he doesn't have a fight with Kai Leng, but do you still get his death scene. I know he still dies, but how do you find out.

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You don't. His name just appears on the memorial board and no one ever mentions him again.

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mythlover20 wrote...

JECW wrote...

Xeyska wrote...

JECW wrote...

If you don't go talk to Thane I know he doesn't end up fighting Kai Leng, and he still dies. Do you still get the death scene with him. I haven't tried it myself.


You don't get a death scene at all, I'm not sure if his name still appears on the Memorial Board though.

So you don't get a death scene at all. He's just dead and that's it.
You can't even go back and get the dialogue a little later?

It remindes me of how Cerberus turns Jack into some phantom if you don't go to Grissom Academy, and you don't find out until you get to the Cerberus base. Then you have to kill her.


His name still appears on the Memorial Board, that's the only mention he gets if you don't go talk to him.


So you don't get a death scene. His name just appears on the wall and that's how you know he died.

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JECW wrote...
I know that part.
What I wanted to know was if you never talk to Thane I know he doesn't have a fight with Kai Leng, but do you still get his death scene. I know he still dies, but how do you find out.


No death scene at all, there is no notice of Thane's death if Shepard doesn't talk to him before the Citadel Coup.

Edit: Ninja'd

Modifié par Xeyska, 20 mars 2012 - 05:28 .


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RShara wrote...

You don't. His name just appears on the memorial board and no one ever mentions him again.


That's even worse.

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yup

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Visii wrote...

Ugh, got a message on Twitter.

Vi ‏ @Asenza
@masseffect Thane≠Keprals Syndrome. Thane=Drell, living weapon, assassin, spiritual, husband, father, widower. Why did ME3 forget that?
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Mass Effect ‏ @masseffect
@asenza He's certainly not defined by his sickness, but it does limit what he can do. No one will forget who Thane truly is.
******
Vi ‏ @Asenza
@masseffect EVERYONE forgot who Thane was. No one but Kai-Leng spoke his name in game after the attack on the Salarian councilor.


Wow.  Really?  Then why was he almost completely ignored throughout the game except for at the time of his death?  Then completely forgotten after?

/facepalm

No, Bioware.  Just, no.  Please, admit that you made a mistake and fix this.

I tweeted them again, cause I'm stubborn like that.  =]

Modifié par Aislinn Trista, 20 mars 2012 - 05:57 .


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hi.

Boy have you all been busy around here.  It is so disheartening to see posters that want to remove choice from an RPG game, AND feel the need to define others by their illness.  I keep wondering if age, privilage or being sheltered plays a part in to some of these peoples views. 

By the time I reached my 40s, I had lost loved ones (family members and friends) to terminal illness (and a few accidents).  And I have continued to learn of others in my life who have become ill, but have not yet passed.  This will happen to everyone, at some point.  Some deal with it at younger ages than others, but everyone will face it.  Everyone will face loss; no one is immortal.  For some of us, these games give us a chance to take control of things that we CAN NOT in real life.  That doesn't mean that the fantasy world that these games exist in shouldn't reflect something of real life.  BUT, if you make a character/s that people will become emotionally connected to (and as an RPG writer this should immediately be assumed if you are making said character/s ROMANCEABLE), allowing for our actions (like a successful LM....just an example) and our choices to impact life or death of said character is (dare I say) expected. At the very least, hoped.

I'm not entirely sure how coherant this is, but I just thought I would add to the discussion.  Been a somewhat miserable day.

On that note.....I need to cheer myself up.  I'll see what I can muster.

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I just wish there was more to even Thane's friendship. As bro-material, he was first rate (as a romance, he's completely higher functioning melting, but I'm going to assume given the thread, y'all noticed that). Headcanon's nice and all, but it's not the same. Filling in the blanks gets annoying.

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A few funny ladies on here gave me an idea with Vega's tattoo.

Now back to the Young and Perpetually Drunk and everyone forgot her DEAD BOYFRIEND and you all suuk...nstuff.


*Shepard saunters in to the Shuttle bay, trips over the gazillion wires strewn across EVERY DAMN THING.  Where was I.....oh yeah.  Vega is seated near his hideyhole getting a large N7 tattooed on his back by Jack.*
Vega- "Eh Lola!  You up for a little pain?  Jack's gotta real talent wit da needle. <nod/wink>
Jack- "Yeah, Shep.  Scared of a little pain??"
PDS - " Look, Sinead, Im goddamn Companer Shepard...I ain't scared of ***t!  I even have a picture of what I want....stole it from that weird lookin lady in Zaeeds room.....who the hellisshe anyway.....psst, I think she wans to getn my pants."
Vega- "Sober up for a day, and I think a bunch of us would want to get in your pants, Lola."
Jack- "Speak for your self, ape.  She needs more than a day dry to clear the fumes outta her pipes.  She is over-ripe!"
PDS- "k, k..... here's the picture.  I wan it on my chest."
*Perpetually Drunk Shepard hands Jack a picture of Thane.  Jack raises an eyebrow and shows the picture to Vega.*
Vega- "Lola!  Why you want a picture of a turtle on your bewbs?"
PDS- "Its NOT a turtle, unibrow, its Thane!!....my beloved Drell.....AND, don't want him on my bewbies....on my CHEST....over my heart.....<sniff>
Thane in Hallucination Form- "Siha, this will accomplish nothing.  It will only cause you more grief and pain.  Possibly more pain than grief, judging by Jacks needle."
PDS- "I just don't want to forget you Thane......and.....oo,oo......anytime anyone ever sayz, 'who da hell is Shane? whatz a Dell, I'll just pull a Mardi Gras on der arsses!  See....<tongue click>....always thinkin"
Vega- "Who the hell is she talking to?  Listen mama, you want something memorable on your chest, well....<cheezy arse grin>
*Vega stands up with his arms open and walks towards Perpetually Drunk Shepard.  He seductively licks his lips....oh hush!  I ain't going that far...calm yourself...*
*Thane musters all his Ectoplasmic strength, grabs a dumbell and hurls it at Vega's head.*
Thane in Hallucination Form- "Go to the Sea!........<bastart>"

too be continued..............................

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JECW wrote...

Xeyska wrote...

JECW wrote...

If you don't go talk to Thane I know he doesn't end up fighting Kai Leng, and he still dies. Do you still get the death scene with him. I haven't tried it myself.


You don't get a death scene at all, I'm not sure if his name still appears on the Memorial Board though.

So you don't get a death scene at all. He's just dead and that's it.
You can't even go back and get the dialogue a little later?

It remindes me of how Cerberus turns Jack into some phantom if you don't go to Grissom Academy, and you don't find out until you get to the Cerberus base. Then you have to kill her.


they did this with morinth, as well, except you're never given any other option than to see her as a banshee.

pretty BS moves on bioware's part.

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coldwetn0se wrote...

A few funny ladies on here gave me an idea with Vega's tattoo.

Now back to the Young and Perpetually Drunk and everyone forgot her DEAD BOYFRIEND and you all suuk...nstuff.


*Shepard saunters in to the Shuttle bay, trips over the gazillion wires strewn across EVERY DAMN THING.  Where was I.....oh yeah.  Vega is seated near his hideyhole getting a large N7 tattooed on his back by Jack.*
Vega- "Eh Lola!  You up for a little pain?  Jack's gotta real talent wit da needle. <nod/wink>
Jack- "Yeah, Shep.  Scared of a little pain??"
PDS - " Look, Sinead, Im goddamn Companer Shepard...I ain't scared of ***t!  I even have a picture of what I want....stole it from that weird lookin lady in Zaeeds room.....who the hellisshe anyway.....psst, I think she wans to getn my pants."
Vega- "Sober up for a day, and I think a bunch of us would want to get in your pants, Lola."
Jack- "Speak for your self, ape.  She needs more than a day dry to clear the fumes outta her pipes.  She is over-ripe!"
PDS- "k, k..... here's the picture.  I wan it on my chest."
*Perpetually Drunk Shepard hands Jack a picture of Thane.  Jack raises an eyebrow and shows the picture to Vega.*
Vega- "Lola!  Why you want a picture of a turtle on your bewbs?"
PDS- "Its NOT a turtle, unibrow, its Thane!!....my beloved Drell.....AND, don't want him on my bewbies....on my CHEST....over my heart.....<sniff>
Thane in Hallucination Form- "Siha, this will accomplish nothing.  It will only cause you more grief and pain.  Possibly more pain than grief, judging by Jacks needle."
PDS- "I just don't want to forget you Thane......and.....oo,oo......anytime anyone ever sayz, 'who da hell is Shane? whatz a Dell, I'll just pull a Mardi Gras on der arsses!  See....<tongue click>....always thinkin"
Vega- "Who the hell is she talking to?  Listen mama, you want something memorable on your chest, well....<cheezy arse grin>
*Vega stands up with his arms open and walks towards Perpetually Drunk Shepard.  He seductively licks his lips....oh hush!  I ain't going that far...calm yourself...*
*Thane musters all his Ectoplasmic strength, grabs a dumbell and hurls it at Vega's head.*
Thane in Hallucination Form- "Go to the Sea!........<bastart>"

too be continued..............................


Ya know....I just ****ing love you.

#7566
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mnomaha wrote...

coldwetn0se wrote...

A few funny ladies on here gave me an idea with Vega's tattoo.

[i]Now back to the Young and Perpetually Drunk and everyone forgot her DEAD BOYFRIEND and you all suuk...nstuff.

*Snippity, snip, snip.*


Ya know....I just ****ing love you.


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hanar05 wrote...

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Great, hanar! That scene was the first coming to my mind when I sah Kai Leng with his sword. I really loved the original scene in Raiders!
Would have liked to see Thane or Shep just doing the same to KL in the game ... because I think that would fit perfect to KLs story arc: Considering the arguments of the devs and many players for Thanes death the old fashioned weapon is the only thing that makes KL kind of special, right?^^

I lurked at the thread discussing if people want a cure for Thane (or not). Have been disappointed about most of the arguments and lack of compassion of the "against cure" posters because the most stressed arguments are the "story arc" and "character definition by death".
Well, if Thane is defined by his disease only and get's no chance of a cure (even there are hints in the game how to handle that properly) what about Tali? For me a big part of her charakter and story arc is her wish to get her homeworld back. And she gets her chance for that. Wouldn't it be more tragic if players would have no chance to fulfill her wish and so she would commit suicide, no matter what you do (and fans want)? That would deepen her charakter so much, giving much more drama to it like it does to Thanes story arc and character, wouldn't it? Why do Tali fans have the chance to get Rannoch back to the Quarians?
Why only we Thane fans get the slap in the face?

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lyssalu wrote...

JECW wrote...

Xeyska wrote...

JECW wrote...

If you don't go talk to Thane I know he doesn't end up fighting Kai Leng, and he still dies. Do you still get the death scene with him. I haven't tried it myself.


You don't get a death scene at all, I'm not sure if his name still appears on the Memorial Board though.

So you don't get a death scene at all. He's just dead and that's it.
You can't even go back and get the dialogue a little later?

It remindes me of how Cerberus turns Jack into some phantom if you don't go to Grissom Academy, and you don't find out until you get to the Cerberus base. Then you have to kill her.


they did this with morinth, as well, except you're never given any other option than to see her as a banshee.

pretty BS moves on bioware's part.


It's just a new level of laziness for them.

#7569
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BTW, Love the .gif from @Hanar

If I remember correctly, that scene in Raiders was actually adlibbed by Harrison Ford. Flippin' awesome!

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RShara wrote...

You don't. His name just appears on the memorial board and no one ever mentions him again.

Shepard mention Thane in Kai Leng fight. 
"That was for the Thane you son of a ..."

Modifié par MissLiya, 20 mars 2012 - 07:49 .


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Oh god, oh god. I just had a terrible, life altering thought. I was reading some of Louvette's feedback on her dA journal.

What if they release some new dumbas$ DLC character and put them in...*gasp* life support. OMG tell me they would not do that. Please tell me.

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mnomaha wrote...

Oh god, oh god. I just had a terrible, life altering thought. I was reading some of Louvette's feedback on her dA journal.

What if they release some new dumbas$ DLC character and put them in...*gasp* life support. OMG tell me they would not do that. Please tell me.


I really hope they don't do that.
I don't want someone else sitting at the table, or have Shepard sitting at the table across from them like with Thane. I also don't want someone coming in there and turning it into something I don't recognize like Liara did with Mirandas office. Her Shadow Broker junk is everywhere.

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omg i still can't get over this art

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mnomaha wrote...

Oh god, oh god. I just had a terrible, life altering thought. I was reading some of Louvette's feedback on her dA journal.

What if they release some new dumbas$ DLC character and put them in...*gasp* life support. OMG tell me they would not do that. Please tell me.


No. Oh, please, Gods, no. *whimpers IN REAL LIFE at the thought* :crying: