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mythlover20 wrote...

Damn, I just gave into the temptation to watch the Thane "romance" on YouTube, and seriously every time Shepard says "I need to take care of an assassin" I'm yelling out, "Yeah, THAT ONE BACK THERE!"

I honestly can't believe they made her leave him.

Yeah, repeating myself. Just need to vent again. :(


I know! I'm watching it now too after watching all the other close to perfect romance options for both male and female Shepard (other than Jacob's of course). There was one comment on the Kaiden love scene that went along the lines of"
'Kaiden's final romance scene was better than Garrus's, but Garrus's farewell before the final fight scene was the best :D Balanced out!'

And I was thinking, yes, balanced out if you romanced one of the fab 4...

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I know.

Granted, I have Margaret, who romanced Garrus (funny story with her too!), and I absolutely loved how Garrus' voice goes down several octaves, he takes her hands, and fixes her with that predatory and possessive gaze when he tells her to come back to him alive. And I loved the whole turian-human baby comment, and Garrus referring to himself as a "daddy" (especially when his sniper rifle collection comes straight after that - very nice juxtaposition there) ("Renegade" response option), and I love how he grabbed her and dipsmooched her on the Citadel. It was all very well done.

Then I remember poor Margurite, who is sitting in Life Support, on the floor where his bed used to be, staring longling at his mug on his table, where she first told him she cared for him. I remember her with tears in her eyes, the Stradi he bought her in her lap, resting her chin on the handle, plucking out Vivaldi's Winter (Op. 8 No. 4. First movement) on the strings, her bow broken by her side.

And then I think.... WHY THE BLOODY HELL DIDN"T MARGURITE GET THAT!!!!

I wanted Thane to take her in his arms, gaze at her longingly, and tell her again that he loved her. I wanted her to be able to tell him that she loved him. I wanted her to feel wanted, desired, and loved like she was in her memories. I wanted her to be comforted if/when he died by her best friend! I wanted her to be able to beat the ever-loving **** out of Kaidan for daring to try to steal her away from her drell. And (headcanon) I wanted her to be married to the love of her life, for however long or short their matrimony might be. I wanted her to be able to comfort Kolyat when his father died. I wanted Kolyat to remember her, to acknowledge her place in his father's life, and to comfort her too. Dammit, I DIDN"T WANT THANE TO DIE!!!

Dammit, I'm making myself cry again....

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mythlover20 wrote...

I know.

Granted, I have Margaret, who romanced Garrus (funny story with her too!), and I absolutely loved how Garrus' voice goes down several octaves, he takes her hands, and fixes her with that predatory and possessive gaze when he tells her to come back to him alive. And I loved the whole turian-human baby comment, and Garrus referring to himself as a "daddy" (especially when his sniper rifle collection comes straight after that - very nice juxtaposition there) ("Renegade" response option), and I love how he grabbed her and dipsmooched her on the Citadel. It was all very well done.

Then I remember poor Margurite, who is sitting in Life Support, on the floor where his bed used to be, staring longling at his mug on his table, where she first told him she cared for him. I remember her with tears in her eyes, the Stradi he bought her in her lap, resting her chin on the handle, plucking out Vivaldi's Winter (Op. 8 No. 4. First movement) on the strings, her bow broken by her side.

And then I think.... WHY THE BLOODY HELL DIDN"T MARGURITE GET THAT!!!!

I wanted Thane to take her in his arms, gaze at her longingly, and tell her again that he loved her. I wanted her to be able to tell him that she loved him. I wanted her to feel wanted, desired, and loved like she was in her memories. I wanted her to be comforted if/when he died by her best friend! I wanted her to be able to beat the ever-loving **** out of Kaidan for daring to try to steal her away from her drell. And (headcanon) I wanted her to be married to the love of her life, for however long or short their matrimony might be. I wanted her to be able to comfort Kolyat when his father died. I wanted Kolyat to remember her, to acknowledge her place in his father's life, and to comfort her too. Dammit, I DIDN"T WANT THANE TO DIE!!!

Dammit, I'm making myself cry again....


There there it's ok... D: we are all feeling your pain. it feels just wrong if they had more dialogue for Thane why not use it... It's just wronggggggg. We want more Thanenessssss. I was so mad the first time he died I even shut down the pc 

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yami_goddess wrote...

mythlover20 wrote...

I know.

Granted, I have Margaret, who romanced Garrus (funny story with her too!), and I absolutely loved how Garrus' voice goes down several octaves, he takes her hands, and fixes her with that predatory and possessive gaze when he tells her to come back to him alive. And I loved the whole turian-human baby comment, and Garrus referring to himself as a "daddy" (especially when his sniper rifle collection comes straight after that - very nice juxtaposition there) ("Renegade" response option), and I love how he grabbed her and dipsmooched her on the Citadel. It was all very well done.

Then I remember poor Margurite, who is sitting in Life Support, on the floor where his bed used to be, staring longling at his mug on his table, where she first told him she cared for him. I remember her with tears in her eyes, the Stradi he bought her in her lap, resting her chin on the handle, plucking out Vivaldi's Winter (Op. 8 No. 4. First movement) on the strings, her bow broken by her side.

And then I think.... WHY THE BLOODY HELL DIDN"T MARGURITE GET THAT!!!!

I wanted Thane to take her in his arms, gaze at her longingly, and tell her again that he loved her. I wanted her to be able to tell him that she loved him. I wanted her to feel wanted, desired, and loved like she was in her memories. I wanted her to be comforted if/when he died by her best friend! I wanted her to be able to beat the ever-loving **** out of Kaidan for daring to try to steal her away from her drell. And (headcanon) I wanted her to be married to the love of her life, for however long or short their matrimony might be. I wanted her to be able to comfort Kolyat when his father died. I wanted Kolyat to remember her, to acknowledge her place in his father's life, and to comfort her too. Dammit, I DIDN"T WANT THANE TO DIE!!!

Dammit, I'm making myself cry again....


There there it's ok... D: we are all feeling your pain. it feels just wrong if they had more dialogue for Thane why not use it... It's just wronggggggg. We want more Thanenessssss. I was so mad the first time he died I even shut down the pc 


Me too, I had to stop the game to cry.. I actually cried myself to sleep that night.. I was just so upset when I was so looking forward to be able to be with him again in ME3 and then get given THAT so-called 'romance' ending.

The other LI relationships were done so ridiculously well in comparison, even Miranda and Jack were so much better, and when people jump on these threads and ask us why we're complaining, it actually makes me so sad. I lost count of the times Shepard exchanged 'I love you's with his/her other love interests.

We didn't get to at all, not once.

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I just listened through that dialogue audio and man now i''m just sad....

Must. Cheer. Up.

Will. Draw. Comics. To. Cheer. Up.

/On another note this line:  "Hearts are fragile things. Even a little confusion can cause permanent damage. To you....or whomever." Thane actually say this if when confronted about having a "past" with Kaidan you choose to go back with Kaidan.
Yes I did out of curiosity say this once. I felt very bad about even if it was just a "For Science!" moment. needless to say I will never pick that option again. Posted Image
If you try to be even more of a trollface to Thane and say "Private time" after telling him you want to be with Kaidan he responds with this: "I...don't think that's what you want Shepard, even if it seems like a good idea now.

Yeah I noticed he stopped saying Siha right after you tell him you want Kaidan instead, although curiously the line:
"I think of us often Siha, but we always knew it would come to an end" is still there.

Modifié par Emeraldfern, 25 mars 2012 - 12:49 .


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Hi everyone. Important development over on the Thane Fanbook page.

We've now got a group on DeviantART!

We've got hanar, cosmochyck, LYDLYD, ANGUA33 and EFLECK (OH MY GODS!!!) contributing to this! So everyone, head over there, contribute whatever you have laying around (but keep it clean - though definitions of clean are open to yamainu's and possibly even my (if she lets me) interpretation. Well, I'd personally accept an artistic nude, or a fanfic that includes erotica if it's essential to the plot of the story, but then I am an artist and am fine with stuff like that. Doesn't mean it's the best stuff to send off).

Any questions you've got, send them to either yamainu or myself on DA, or join The Thane Fanbook Project here on the BSN,

http://thane-fanbook.deviantart.com/

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RShara wrote...

I just found like
a ton of lines cut from Thane's citadel greeting
"Hearts are fragile things. Even a little confusion can cause permanent damage. To you....or whomever."
You know the line where he says "It's freeing to find no requirements placed on me. ..... It is a good end to a life" ?

There's another line
THERE'S ANTOHER LINE

"Some people would find this uncertainty freeing. I...contemplate what I have done"

"I have family here that I must take care of. I have neglected my son, and now he is self destructive."

"Siha.....I had hoped we would see one another again....in less...perforated circumstances"

The normandy nightmare whispers are creepy. Even though the scenes themselves are annoying, the whispers are creeeeeeeeeeepy
4 lines from Thane in them--rehash of old dialogue, though I haven't heard, "Just don't make the mistake I did. There's always another mission. None of them are an excuse to make yourself an island."

Out of over 1 GB of audio content
All of Thane's, including F/M Shep and Kolyat lines
Are 4 MB


First off, thank you for  the lovely feedback on  the fic-more is under way, hehe!:) And Shara, you are so right...I'd completely forgotten where commas go after quotation marks there-I need to hide under a rock here, lol, silly thing to forget!O.o

And that is a bit of lovely dialogue that should have been there , to make the romance feel just a little less empty!:(Still hoping they'll make it right!:(

And rushing off to the DA fanbook!;)

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...this song was written for Thane.

GUYS I sent Mass Effect this video via twitter, and they said "...yes.Yes."

Modifié par LucyMaire, 25 mars 2012 - 05:22 .


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LucyMaire wrote...

...this song was written for Thane.

GUYS I sent Mass Effect this video via twitter, and they said "...yes.Yes."


love that vid. Did they say yes yes cause they where annoyed or something ?

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yami_goddess wrote...

LucyMaire wrote...

...this song was written for Thane.

GUYS I sent Mass Effect this video via twitter, and they said "...yes.Yes."


love that vid. Did they say yes yes cause they where annoyed or something ?


LOL...I've always loved that vid.  And I hope the Yes, Yes really means, "Yes, Yes, let's just give them what they want.  They are women and they won't EVER give up unitl we give in."  As I tell my old man, I have 2 powerful weapons... distance and irritation.

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Hahaha of course that's what it means :)
I actually think it was an automated response. They answered me right away...they didn't even have time to watch the video.

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Did the average BSN user just get 10yrs younger? I swear I cannot comprehend the thought processes of some of these posters. Ugghh.....It's really starting to wear me out. Wash, rinse, repeat........
*head desk*

Anyway.......art! yeah, lovely. Can't wait to see what people contribute. Can't draw to save me skin, and PDS is probably not very "fitting" with whats being put together....HA! Still looking forward to seeing how this shapes up. :)

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mythlover20 wrote...

Hi everyone. Important development over on the Thane Fanbook page.

We've now got a group on DeviantART!

We've got hanar, cosmochyck, LYDLYD, ANGUA33 and EFLECK (OH MY GODS!!!) contributing to this! So everyone, head over there, contribute whatever you have laying around (but keep it clean - though definitions of clean are open to yamainu's and possibly even my (if she lets me) interpretation. Well, I'd personally accept an artistic nude, or a fanfic that includes erotica if it's essential to the plot of the story, but then I am an artist and am fine with stuff like that. Doesn't mean it's the best stuff to send off).

Any questions you've got, send them to either yamainu or myself on DA, or join The Thane Fanbook Project here on the BSN,

http://thane-fanbook.deviantart.com/


I messaged NeitiCora. She had a baby recently, but I also know she just finished the game, or at least this ****ty part of it.

edit:  She's not past that point yet, but agrees that she'll probably be on the bandwagon with us.

Also, facebooked K-Laine and asked her if she knew about the dA page. Her response was "Now I have =D"

Modifié par mnomaha, 25 mars 2012 - 06:27 .


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RShara wrote...

I just found like
a ton of lines cut from Thane's citadel greeting
"Hearts are fragile things. Even a little confusion can cause permanent damage. To you....or whomever."
You know the line where he says "It's freeing to find no requirements placed on me. ..... It is a good end to a life" ?

There's another line
THERE'S ANTOHER LINE

"Some people would find this uncertainty freeing. I...contemplate what I have done"

"I have family here that I must take care of. I have neglected my son, and now he is self destructive."

"Siha.....I had hoped we would see one another again....in less...perforated circumstances"

The normandy nightmare whispers are creepy. Even though the scenes themselves are annoying, the whispers are creeeeeeeeeeepy
4 lines from Thane in them--rehash of old dialogue, though I haven't heard, "Just don't make the mistake I did. There's always another mission. None of them are an excuse to make yourself an island."

Out of over 1 GB of audio content
All of Thane's, including F/M Shep and Kolyat lines
Are 4 MB


They cut all that out...wow. Bw, why do you hate Thane so much? Seriously, what would cutting lines from the few dialogue he has do for you? I've been trying to to find audio of the dream whispers from Thane; the subtitles in ME3 are so horribly unreliable. I've only ever heard one line from Thane in them, about Shep being a great protector, can't remember the rest though.

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Thane needs our support over here!!  I'll be back later...disc0nnect07 posted this in the protesting thread...

http://social.biowar...20/polls/30394/

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Cosmochyck wrote...

Thane needs our support over here!!  I'll be back later...disc0nnect07 posted this in the protesting thread...

http://social.biowar...20/polls/30394/


Posted Image *waves* Thane is in fourth place now, not too shabby. Somehow Morinth is in second...wtf

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disc0nnect7 wrote...

Cosmochyck wrote...

Thane needs our support over here!!  I'll be back later...disc0nnect07 posted this in the protesting thread...

http://social.biowar...20/polls/30394/


Posted Image *waves* Thane is in fourth place now, not too shabby. Somehow Morinth is in second...wtf


Bah!  Guess the *Critical Mission Failure* fanatics are missin' some Ardat Yakshi luvin'.......yeah, I know I spelled it wrong.  Posted Image

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I am going to ask myself why I just data mined my ME3, I sat here and cried when I heard what was missing from the game. I should have left it alone but I just needed to hear it for myself, now I sit here and cry. Next time, I will try and not let my curiosity get the better of me. I don't who the bigger jackhole is..me or the ones who left it out.

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RShara wrote...
I just found like
a ton of lines cut from Thane's citadel greeting
"Hearts are fragile things. Even a little confusion can cause permanent damage. To you....or whomever."
You know the line where he says "It's freeing to find no requirements placed on me. ..... It is a good end to a life" ?

There's another line
THERE'S ANTOHER LINE

"Some people would find this uncertainty freeing. I...contemplate what I have done"

"I have family here that I must take care of. I have neglected my son, and now he is self destructive."

"Siha.....I had hoped we would see one another again....in less...perforated circumstances"


The cut lines make me so upset since he got so little content in ME3 as it is. How could they cut any of it?  I thought it was weird how Thane only mentions Kolyat to a Shepard who didn't romance him. He says something like "Do not grieve for me, I have good doctors and my son visits regularly."

If you romanced Thane, Kolyat doesn't come up at all in the conversation. Probably because they cut out the relevant lines.

I'm still really angry that they cut out the "Your memory is not like ours, but I hope you'll keep me in it for a little while" line. It breaks my heart.

RShara wrote...
The normandy nightmare whispers are creepy. Even though the scenes themselves are annoying, the whispers are creeeeeeeeeeepy
4 lines from Thane in them--rehash of old dialogue, though I haven't heard, "Just don't make the mistake I did. There's always another mission. None of them are an excuse to make yourself an island."
 


That line makes me sad. It's from ME2 and happens during the conversation in which Thane describes solipsism and talks a little bit about the bystander (Irikah) who stopped one of his assasinations. When Shepard is about to leave Thane says "Shepard, I appreciate these chats we have."

If Shepard chooses the "It's just business" (renegade response): "Don't misunderstand. I need to know what you're capable of, odds are most of us will die on this mission. There's no point in making friends."

To which Thane responds: "That's a very practical view. Probably even a wise one. Just don't make the mistake I did.There's always another mission. None of them are an excuse to make yourself an island."

D: D: D: There should be a "hug Thane" interrupt to use at will. It was needed, especially during his loyalty mission. :/

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There should be "hug Thane" interrupt, "kiss Thane" interrupt, "secks with Thane" interrupt....  :wub:

And damn!  He was just SO WELL WRITTEN in ME2 - I mean, he's pragmatic but still shows emotion.  GAWD I just love him!  Which is why ME3 Thane is such a horrible, bitter pill to swallow.  :sick:

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Cosmochyck wrote...

There should be "hug Thane" interrupt, "kiss Thane" interrupt, "secks with Thane" interrupt....  :wub:

And damn!  He was just SO WELL WRITTEN in ME2 - I mean, he's pragmatic but still shows emotion.  GAWD I just love him!  Which is why ME3 Thane is such a horrible, bitter pill to swallow.  :sick:


I laughed at the last one....if you can shadow box and chase down ding-a-Leng you can lay on your back.  :o  My imagination can take care of the rest...heck, it ran wild in ME2.  My mind was like my daughter without her Adderall.  

I just need this to be fixed or I'm going to resort to some god awful cut and paste of all Thane dialogue, scene mods, and make my own.  It will be enough to make those DA:O mods look tame.

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Here is the Save Thane Petition from Nube9!!!

Go here and sign! 

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Hey, I'm delurking here because I've just finished ME3 and I still can't understand what happened, or better, what didn't happen with the character of Thane.
I truly understand your pain. I've romanced him once, I loved him overall as a characters.

And I have to admit I read months before the leaked spoiler. I knew he had to die, though I always hoped that somehow, someway, there could be an hidden way to save him till the end of the events of ME3 at least. Would have been THAT hard to have him around the hospital or the Normandy, so we could talk to him or have some comments now and then as the story progressed?
And then we come to the moment of his death. I was hoping at least to have that scene in the script, where he remembers the night with Shepard and he dies in her arms...
But no. Where was that scene? It was sad, it could tear my heart apart, but it was so fitting. If he had to die during the events of the game, that was a vastly superior scene.
Honestly, lovers or friends, my Shepards would have remained with him, why the hell we didn't even get the choice to leave someone with him, at the very least.
The scene at the hospital was maybe good for a friendly path. But what made me sad was not he scene per se, but the thought "And that is all for Thane in ME3? Nothing I could have done before? No more dialogues, nothing at all, and this is how it ends?". Yeah, the fight with Kai Leng was pretty epic but...even here, couldn't there be some kind of interrupt, maybe if Thane was loyal or given some specific dialogue choices, to avoid his death? Maybe he was wounded but not mortally and we could visit him again?

And then, after his death...as if nothing happened, Shepard walks away and goes shopping in the CItadel. Not really, but you get the point. I looked at the screen, hoping some dialogue would follow. Some comment from the companions, Garrus maybe? But no, no one notices he died.
Yeah, his name is on the wall, but even when Garrus is there we only mention Ashley and Mordin? The hell, I didn't even like Ashley.
I can perfectly understand if some of you hated the game which not-so-subtly pushed you toward Kaidan. I love Kaidan, my canon Shep is loyal to him from ME1, but from the point of view of a Shepard who romanced Thane is just horrible.

Anyway, I know I just said things which where said before...I just needed to vent somehow and tell you that I perfectly understand you and support your cause :)

Modifié par Dunizel, 25 mars 2012 - 08:31 .


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Cosmochyck wrote...

Here is the Save Thane Petition from Nube9!!!

Go here and sign! 


Signed :)

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Dunizel wrote...

Hey, I'm delurking here because I've just finished ME3 and I still can't understand what happened, or better, what didn't happen with the character of Thane.
I truly understand your pain. I've romanced him once, I loved him overall as a characters.

And I have to admit I read months before the leaked spoiler. I knew he had to die, though I always hoped that somehow, someway, there could be an hidden way to save him till the end of the events of ME3 at least. Would have been THAT hard to have him around the hospital or the Normandy, so we could talk to him or have some comments now and then as the story progressed?
And then we come to the moment of his death. I was hoping at least to have that scene in the script, where he remembers the night with Shepard and he dies in her arms...
But no. Where was that scene? It was sad, it could tear my heart apart, but it was so fitting. If he had to die during the events of the game, that was a vastly superior scene.
Honestly, lovers or friends, my Shepards would have remained with him, why the hell we didn't even get the choice to leave someone with him, at the very least.
The scene at the hospital was maybe good for a friendly path. But what made me sad was not he scene per se, but the thought "And that is all for Thane in ME3? Nothing I could have done before? No more dialogues, nothing at all, and this is how it ends?". Yeah, the fight with Kai Leng was pretty epic but...even here, couldn't there be some kind of interrupt, maybe if Thane was loyal or given some specific dialogue choices, to avoid his death? Maybe he was wounded but not mortally and we could visit him again?

And then, after his death...as if nothing happened, Shepard walks away and goes shopping in the CItadel. Not really, but you get the point. I looked at the screen, hoping some dialogue would follow. Some comment from the companions, Garrus maybe? But no, no one notices he died.
Yeah, his name is on the wall, but even when Garrus is there we only mention Ashley and Mordin? The hell, I didn't even like Ashley.
I can perfectly understand if some of you hated the game which not-so-subtly pushed you toward Kaidan. I love Kaidan, my canon Shep is loyal to him from ME1, but from the point of view of a Shepard who romanced Thane is just horrible.

Anyway, I know I just said things which where said before...I just needed to vent somehow and tell you that I perfectly understand you and support your cause :)


Very well said, and welcome to Drell-licker's Anonymous!  Cake and booze to the left of the vestible....enjoy.

I decide to resurrect an old post of mine.  It is still making me bang my head on my desk, that they couldn't have come up with a better way to integrate Thane (and other ME2 squaddie/LI's), and give us more RP choices!!  So, sorry for the necro:


And how it should have been IMHO!

I have mentioned this before, but it was a few months past in the Thane Thread, but they could have easily done this right for the romancers AND those that wanted (yuck) Thane to die. If LM was a success, and/or Thane was romanced and alive by the end of ME2, give the man some autonomy, and have him CHOOSE to extend his life (i.e. lung transplant, lung medi-gel, space magic I don't care....) This would take place DURING those six months that Shepard and him are separated. Still meeting him in the hospital then would work for those that didn't meet the above conditions, and for his CHOOSING to extend his life.

If he has chosen to extend his life, he still needs to check in with his Dr.'s, maybe needs some health maintenance, ect....If the above conditions were met, we have romance dialogue specific to his extending his life, and we get the chance to reaffirm the relationship. Added dialogue/scenes, the likes. Then, when the fight with Kai Leng happens, if you are in a romance with him(or friended with LM successful), he doesn't get hurt badly but Kai Leng knows that you (Shep and Co.) are now on the scene, and Kai Leng takes off. Rest of the scene plays out as normal. You still go to the hospital to check on him, those that didn't pursue a relationship with him (friend or LI) get the deathbed scene.

Those that did romance/friend him, get the chance to do a side mission for assets, AND for Thanemancers we also get a love scene. Since he was never intended to come back as a squaddie (yeah, wattever..), you can suggest that him and Kolyat return to Kahje/some place other than the citadel (or they can stay on Kahje if that is where the side quest is.)

<scene and curtain>

*EDIT*

Just a quick added note. Some players who still wish to be friends with Thane, BUT still want his death (yuck), could have a few flag markers set up in the first set of dialogue options you get. For example, make a convo similiar to the Alistair "Hardening" dialogue. First two times I played DAO, I didn't choose the correct set of options to "harden" Alistair. This could then be a flag that if triggered (or in this case NOT triggered), get the deathbed scene instead. This would then cover pretty much all RP options.
1)Thane romanced, life extended,not badly injured by Leng, side mission, asset, off to Kahje (off the citadel).
2)Thane friended, life extended, "hardened", not badly injured by Leng, side mission, asst, off to Kahje.
3)Thane friended/romanced, life extended, NOT "hardened" (or romance rejected), BADLY injured by Leng, deathbed scene.
4) Thane alive but unsuccessful LM, NO life extention, Kai Leng badly injures Thane, deathbed scene.