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[Eliza]

@stu & hisilome: Thank you both! It's great to hear that someone likes my ideas.
I thought after fighting so much and having lost so many friends Shep & Thane deserved some happyness and a 'normal' life without forgetting people who need their help to get a better life. I thought Thane writing books would be quite fitting since it is something he can do at home and his perfect memory will give him a lot of stories to tell.
When Thane tells Shep in ME 2 that he has no other skills than being an assassin I always felt sorry that I did not have the chance to interrupt him and tell him that there is so much more in him. He is so smart and intelligent, there must be more options for him than being a killer.

[Benathorn]

Thane was just a cool guy all around

Modifié par Benathorn, 28 mars 2012 - 04:00 .

[utaker1988]

Eliza wrote...


@stu: I love your picture. Great work!

Oh, Sihas, I just tried the option when first talking to Thane that Shep is still together with Kaidan (I avoided this before but were curious now and gave it a try just to get the dialog).
Well, I always Shep couldn't behave worse as she does when picking the option that it's over with Kaidan but now I know better. Even it is heartbreaking to tell Thane that you are still together with Kaidan the worst of all is that you can still pick the "I have some private time" option after this! I cannot believe it! She is treating Thane like crap. **facepalm**
What is going on in Shep's crazy mind? She must be really, really desperate or this is some special kind of reaper indoctrination. I don't get it, I really don't get it.

**hoping for some comforting hugs of the other Sihas around**

Ugh, that is just wrong, wrong, wrong. WTF is wrong with people?  Why would that option still be there?  No matter what occurs and if I ever decide to play this game again (huge if there, my chances of replaying FFXII are better and I swore I'd never go there again) that will be one dialogue I never choose just for curiosity sake.  I've never been able to knowingly hurt Thane's feelings or choose anything I thought would.  Which is why he was always my LI...I could not and never broke up with him.  I could NOT do it.  I never chose "I cannot love a dying man" option because I was just too afraid of hurting him.  Silly, huh?  I know what the line is but to this day, I've never heard it.  Too afraid to hurt a game character's feelings....that sounds really stupid.  Just like he's only one who I gave plot armor too in ME2.   Yes, I managed 2 years without watching him die in anyway shape or form.  If someone posted a youtube video, I'd ask my husband to watch it first and if Thane dies then it would be one I would not watch. Never witnessed his death...so you can imagine the horrific impact ME3 had on me.  I was FORCED to watch him die.  

And here's your comforting hugs... ((((((HUGS))))) 

[Cosmochyck]

Benathorn wrote...

Thane was just a cool guy all around

He absolutely was and he deserved better.  And MORE.

[Emeraldfern]

utaker1988 wrote...

Eliza wrote...


@stu: I love your picture. Great work!

Oh, Sihas, I just tried the option when first talking to Thane that Shep is still together with Kaidan (I avoided this before but were curious now and gave it a try just to get the dialog).
Well, I always Shep couldn't behave worse as she does when picking the option that it's over with Kaidan but now I know better. Even it is heartbreaking to tell Thane that you are still together with Kaidan the worst of all is that you can still pick the "I have some private time" option after this! I cannot believe it! She is treating Thane like crap. **facepalm**
What is going on in Shep's crazy mind? She must be really, really desperate or this is some special kind of reaper indoctrination. I don't get it, I really don't get it.

**hoping for some comforting hugs of the other Sihas around**

Ugh, that is just wrong, wrong, wrong. WTF is wrong with people?  Why would that option still be there?  No matter what occurs and if I ever decide to play this game again (huge if there, my chances of replaying FFXII are better and I swore I'd never go there again) that will be one dialogue I never choose just for curiosity sakecan imagine the horrific

And here's your comforting hugs... ((((((HUGS))))) 

My curiosity got the better of me once...and I felt so guilty when I heard his voice tone change, it gave me such a chill down my spine.

 Heck, it didn't go away until I went back to painting the "In his Arms" fanart.

/Off-topic: I love FF 12!  I have so many good memories of that game...and now I got to thinking how my favourite character seemingly sacrificed himself in the end, but then right after the credits it's shown that he was alive.
Why oh why did you fail me ME3?

Modifié par Emeraldfern, 28 mars 2012 - 04:54 .

[utaker1988]

Emeraldfern wrote...



My curiosity got the better of me once...and I felt so guilty when I heard his voice tone change, it gave me such a chill down my spine.

 Heck, it didn't go away until I went back to painting the "In his Arms" fanart.

/Off-topic: I love FF 12!  I have so many good memories of that game...and now I got to thinking how my favourite character seemingly sacrificed himself in the end, but then right after the credits it's shown that he was alive.
Why oh why did you fail me ME3?

LOL....I remember the first time I played DA2, I heard Fenris and went, "hee hee Balthier" and I did like Balthier, probably a little too much.  I can imagine you did get a chill down your spine, I appreciate the fact that you were willing to go there, I'm too much of a wimp.  I can be a complete jerk to everyone else in that game but to Thane, I just couldn't do it.  He always screamed at me, "Noooooooo, don't pick Renegade, pick the I need hugs and cuddles option."  The worst I ever went with Thane was the, "you know when I went looking for an assassin, I expected to get a bad-ass you seem more like a monk" and "you don't act like a dying man"...both times he beotch slapped her back with verbal wit.   I was like  someone with subtle wit and humor that can put Shep in her place...I lovers him.  

[JECW]

Eliza wrote...

@stu: I love your picture. Great work!

Oh, Sihas, I just tried the option when first talking to Thane that Shep is still together with Kaidan (I avoided this before but were curious now and gave it a try just to get the dialog).
Well, I always Shep couldn't behave worse as she does when picking the option that it's over with Kaidan but now I know better. Even it is heartbreaking to tell Thane that you are still together with Kaidan the worst of all is that you can still pick the "I have some private time" option after this! I cannot believe it! She is treating Thane like crap. **facepalm**
What is going on in Shep's crazy mind? She must be really, really desperate or this is some special kind of reaper indoctrination. I don't get it, I really don't get it.

**hoping for some comforting hugs of the other Sihas around**

I picked that option once myself . I really wanted to slap my shepard after that. It's just such a horrilble thing to do. I quickly reloaded the game. I just could never hurt him like that. I don't understand how anyone could.

Modifié par JECW, 28 mars 2012 - 05:16 .

[Kaija]

stwu wrote...

Eliza wrote...

Emeraldfern wrote...
With the addition that when Thane was romanced there should be green Shepard/ Thane babies and Kolyat as a big bro for them! Also Garrus for babysitting!

That are exactly what Thane and Shepard have got in my story after the galaxcy is saved.:Sweet little Drell-Human and  Human-Drell babies (with a little help of Mordin, of course). My Shep and Thane retire, spend much time together just being happy.
Here are more of my ideas: After a while Thanes starts a new career as an author, writing adventure stories based on his former jobs (thanks do his excellent memories they seem to be very detailed and realistic), travel guides for Kahje and books about the soul names of the Hanars and some philosophical stuff.
Oh, and he and Shep raise a foundation for the forgotten kids on the Citadel named "Dralafar".

Seems, I had so much stupid ideas about the Shep/Thane future bevor ME 3 was released.

Your stories sound awesome.
 
I've said this before to another writer, don't forget Thane just because bioware has.
If he lives on in your heart he will never be forgotten. I suck at writing, so please don't give up.




Art by Angua33

Wow! Amazing art. His eyes! I love when he gives that little hint of a smile in the game.

Modifié par Kaija, 28 mars 2012 - 05:35 .

[Kaija]

JECW wrote...

Eliza wrote...

@stu: I love your picture. Great work!

Oh, Sihas, I just tried the option when first talking to Thane that Shep is still together with Kaidan (I avoided this before but were curious now and gave it a try just to get the dialog).
Well, I always Shep couldn't behave worse as she does when picking the option that it's over with Kaidan but now I know better. Even it is heartbreaking to tell Thane that you are still together with Kaidan the worst of all is that you can still pick the "I have some private time" option after this! I cannot believe it! She is treating Thane like crap. **facepalm**
What is going on in Shep's crazy mind? She must be really, really desperate or this is some special kind of reaper indoctrination. I don't get it, I really don't get it.

**hoping for some comforting hugs of the other Sihas around**

I picked that option once myself . I really wanted to slap my shepard after that. It's just such a horrilble thing to do. I quickly reloaded the game. I just could never hurt him like that. I don't understand how anyone could.

I can't stand those lines! I think it was just horrible writing from people who didn't care and then that FemShep voice actor wasn't given context of her lines so it sounded really out of place. A bigger conversation may even have been cut.

(Sorry for double post, I have no idea what I'm doing when it comes to forums)

Modifié par Kaija, 28 mars 2012 - 05:41 .

[coldwetn0se]

mnomaha wrote...

Yeah, I don't want to bash another character (well I do), but dammit, Kelly gave off that village bicycle vibe.

I swear if I ever play this game again, I am not pardoning Ken and Gabby and if I can talk to her, I'm not warning Kelly. *pouts*

**OWWW****  Coffee, nasal passages!  Damn woman, wutcha trying to do to me??

Yeah, I know.....I'm late to the party.  Still trying to catch up on what I missed.

Morning lovelies!

[Cosmochyck]

No pressure Cold-but I could really use some PDS - in fact later today that may be me. 
Work is SUCKING large. 
And I'm raging at BW and the Thane thing and ugh - need to blow something up.  Perhaps I can borrow the Scorpion tank out of Halo. 

[coldwetn0se]

Cosmochyck wrote...

I refuse to give BW/EA any more tears.  I'm done.  I also wonder if they think "hey, everyone is upset and crying, so it WAS emotional - job well done!"  I DO NOT WANT THAT.  Under no circumstance do I want them to think that they DID A GOOD JOB WITH THANE.    
No one is crying because it was HANDLED WELL.  Everyone (including me!) is upset at how poorly it WAS handled - which equals - NOT HANDLED AT ALL. 

Let's just leave Thane in a hospital - if Shep shows up, awesome.  If not, oh well, he dies off screen.  Super writing, right there.   I want them to hear the fanbase, whevever they may be, and own up to this fiasco.  I want THANE and his romance fixed.  I want my Shep to be happy (or at least alive with Thane).  I'm just so angry that he dies - it's the easy way out.  No character development - let's just kill him - it's easier.  And the number of guys I come across on MP that can't believe how badly he was written is astonishing.  Even these guys recognize how awful it was, and they didn't even romance him!

The whole of ME3 just makes me want to rage.  Sloppy stories, poorly written characters, and good lord the graphics - terrible.  Glitches, bugs abound! 

And Casey Hudson looks like Zach Quinto (Cylar from Heroes and Spock from new Star Trek).  Love that pic. 

Sorry for wall-o-text and the rage.  So disappointed and so tired of wanting to cry anytime I hear/think/see Thane and the horribleness that is his role in ME3.  I can't even bring myself to watch any youtube stuff. 

Now for the REAL ME3 ending - courtesy of Louvette

FLU woman!  You hit it perfectly.  Yesterday I came to the same conclusion; that they may ACTUALLY believe they did a good job BECAUSE we are so emotional.  Ugh!  No........If that was really true we would still be playing the game, anxiously waiting for DLC announcements, looking forward to all the RPing of our imported Sheps.  After reading through a few threads last night, I am really starting to see that their are others (perhaps even those that said they loved the game, except for the ending), who are starting to really recognize the failings of this game; animation/graphical glitches, bugs, character assassinations, Sheps that don't act like how we rp them (not even giving us a choice in dialogue), confusing quests, unusable Journal, and new characters wrapped in plot armor so thick; bloated like the Stay-Puff Marshmallo Man!  Everything is starting to look rediculous to me.  The side effect of this is that my tears are starting to stem, but a feeling of apathy is beginning to settle in its place.  Not big on being apathetic.....bleh

BTW.....Love Louvette!!!!  This is going in my head cannon, dammit!

[mnomaha]

Benathorn wrote...

Thane was just a cool guy all around

Welcome Benathorn! Yeah, he was is a cool guy.

[mnomaha]

Oh please, if they were paying any attention at all, they would know we are completely pissed off. It would only take reading a few posts to realise that.

So, IMO (not humble at all), I think they just don't give a sh!t.

[mnomaha]

Oh dammit, I also need a screenie (post on the other thread too) of shep with Kaidan at the hospital, with the dialogue wheel.

[Kaija]

If they would bother to read their own forums they might see that they are very wrong on that assumption that emotionally devastated fans equals good work. I think you all have done an amazing job of putting into words all our grievances and why they are very valid evidence that they got it wrong!
I'd be walking around with a bigger hole in heart if it weren't for knowing you all are here keeping our favorite character alive. Many hugs to you all.

Modifié par Kaija, 28 mars 2012 - 06:21 .

[mnomaha]

I got a double dose of depression last night when I read through the first page of this thread. All that talk of side missions and whatnot.

It just reinforced that major screwing (and not the pleasant kind) that Thane fans received. Makes me wonder what people's personal lives are like if this is considered even remotely satisfying.

[mnomaha]

*hugs Kaija* I feel the same way.  <3

[Tentura]

Cosmochyck wrote...
I refuse to give BW/EA any more tears.  I'm done.  I also wonder if they think "hey, everyone is upset and crying, so it WAS emotional - job well done!"  I DO NOT WANT THAT.  Under no circumstance do I want them to think that they DID A GOOD JOB WITH THANE.
No one is crying because it was HANDLED WELL.  Everyone (including me!) is upset at how poorly it WAS handled - which equals - NOT HANDLED AT ALL.

This is exactly how I feel.  When I saw it the second time (during my husband's playthrough, where the scenes were nearly the same as a 'loyal friend' rather than LI)... all I could feel was intense disappointment.  No tears at all.  I am one of those folks who hasn't even picked up the game again since finishing and seeing the endings.  And yup, my import to ME3 was a Thane romance, so I still have no Paramour achievement.  Because he doesn't count with BW, apparently.  It still surprises me that this is how it all has ended ... such a contrast to the Thane thread back in ME2 days.  We were all so thrilled at the character they had crafted for us, and so excited about all the possibilities in store for ME3.

Modifié par Tentura, 28 mars 2012 - 07:04 .

[coldwetn0se]

@Cosmo - I started writing another PDS shot yesterday in between work, but it wasn't working for me....Trying a new angle, and will have it out today.

@kaija - <huggles>

So a number of you yesterday were also discussing the popularity of Thane. Here is where I think some of the popularity for him took a snag. Considering the first reaction I ever had seeing him (and that was playing as a m!Shepard), and the reaction of my husband (who was watching), we were rather enthralled by him. Something both my husband and I pointed out: in Thanes RM the only real noticable plot armor (if ya wanna call it that), is on Shep and Co. Nassana chats our Sheps up, and her mercs have guns pointed at us. Whether or not a fight right then would have been a good thing for Nassana, the point of the scene is to set up Thane's entrance. Now here is where the writing really shows it's teeth. When Thane slips down from the ceiling, he's quick; neck-snap, neck-snap, point blank shot. This may be a small thing, but it speaks volumes. The writers didn't have him making speeches, or throwing witty banter around before he eliminated his targets. This is a common device in so many tv shows, movies, video games, and books. So the fact that they took care not to do that, especially with an assasin, was great. Well received, and Thane immediately became my favorite.

Love Garrus, but even his RM seemed.......too glorified; one man against all odds, too hard to kill with a friggin army, blah, blah, blah...again, still love Garrus, but just seemed so "cowboyish".

REALLY getting off point, woops. So, the popularity thing. I think many people had a reaction to him, similar to my little household (and I'm guessing all of you *grin*). But, here is where the "distance" comes in. I sound like a broken record, but if you make one character have such a bleak background, people begin to pull away. It's not that he was unliked, but being told right off the bat that he is dying has an impact. Then add the "compact", dead wife, estranged son, and later (in me3), stabbitied, people become detached. They may still think he's cool, and "goes out like a boss (blech)",, but they just sort of stop caring about him "living"....damn it Thane, ya better get busy dying <sarcasm>.

Some women will NOT chose him simply BECAUSE of his Kepral's. We all saw (and felt) so much more from Thane, so his Kepral's did not dissuade us from choosing him as our LI. Throw in the hints of a life extention and/or cure, and we probably ALL felt confident in our choice. Truth be told, he was the ONLY choice for me....."I only have eyes....for you...." Kaidan, Jacob, Garrus and Liara, I never felt a strong connection to them even though I liked all of them. Garrus is a favorite of mine, but like others on here have said, never saw him in a romantic light....ever.

So there it is. A popular character that gets ignored by their (bw's) own writing devices. And for a character they spent so much time on, this is more than a pity; it's a travesty.

[mnomaha]

Tentura wrote...

Cosmochyck wrote...
I refuse to give BW/EA any more tears.  I'm done.  I also wonder if they think "hey, everyone is upset and crying, so it WAS emotional - job well done!"  I DO NOT WANT THAT.  Under no circumstance do I want them to think that they DID A GOOD JOB WITH THANE.
No one is crying because it was HANDLED WELL.  Everyone (including me!) is upset at how poorly it WAS handled - which equals - NOT HANDLED AT ALL.

This is exactly how I feel.  When I saw it the second time (during my husband's playthrough, where the scenes were nearly the same as a 'loyal friend' rather than LI)... all I could feel was intense disappointment.  No tears at all.  I am one of those folks who hasn't even picked up the game again since finishing and seeing the endings.  And yup, my import to ME3 was a Thane romance, so I still have no Paramour achievement.  Because he doesn't count with BW, apparently.  It still surprises me that this is how it all has ended ... such a contrast to the Thane thread back in ME2 days.  We were all so thrilled at the character they had crafted for us, and so excited about all the possibilities in store for ME3.

*tacklhugs and sits on Tentura* You must staaaaaay with me.

Yeah, my only full playthrough started with Garrus and was hijacked by Alenko. Didn't really realise what happened until it was too late. I saw the youtube though. Why couldn't bw put that much devotion into Thane. Oh wait, they forgot!  I still don't even see how that is remotely ****ing possible.

[Hadeedak]

So I've been playing Robin a bit.

IN GENERAL, I still love Mass Effect 3, which is part of why the big problems for me: lack of clarity in the endings, lack of followthrough for Thane's death, and how boring quarians look under the suit, stock photo or not (Yay, star trek aliens), are so damn glaring. It's still fun, it makes me laugh, it makes me cry in a good way, and I enjoy the hell out of most of the characters, romances, bromances, and arches. Thane's an exception. I can deal with death. I don't mind most of the dialogue associated with him. But it's glaringly obvious there wasn't enough for a romance. And the LACK of followthrough is bad as a friendship, let alone with a romancer like Robin.



Anyway, when I started this, I was about to mention something I found hilarious in a sad way. So I'm nearing the end of the game, second playthrough. There's Robin, still alone, both loves of her life dead -- one on Virmire, one on the Citadel. Liara has her banters with Javik, and I still think there's some sparks there. Ashley's drinking with Vega. Tali and Garrus are a thing. Edi has Joker.

And then there's Robin Shepard. Alone in life support.

[mnomaha]

Yeah, Bittershep is forever alone.

I wish there was an ending where the reapers win. I'm all for that at this point. I know that MY Thane would disapprove, but Thane in ME3 is soooooo out of character that it really is an option for me.

[Cosmochyck]

REALLY getting off point, woops. So, the popularity thing. I think many people had a reaction to him, similar to my little household (and I'm guessing all of you *grin*). But, here is where the "distance" comes in. I sound like a broken record, but if you make one character have such a bleak background, people begin to pull away. It's not that he was unliked, but being told right off the bat that he is dying has an impact. Then add the "compact", dead wife, estranged son, and later (in me3), stabbitied, people become detached. They may still think he's cool, and "goes out like a boss (blech)",, but they just sort of stop caring about him "living"....damn it Thane, ya better get busy dying <sarcasm>.

It could definitely part of it for people, but for me, it just sucked me in further!  Especially the son, and once he's more friendly (not even the romance part), when he thanks you for awakening him, and that he's made a friend.  How can you not want to follow up on a cure?  A transplant?  Anything?  Even from a bro standpoint??

Anyway, when I started this, I was about to mention something I found hilarious in a sad way. So I'm nearing the end of the game, second playthrough. There's Robin, still alone, both loves of her life dead -- one on Virmire, one on the Citadel. Liara has her banters with Javik, and I still think there's some sparks there. Ashley's drinking with Vega. Tali and Garrus are a thing. Edi has Joker.

And then there's Robin Shepard. Alone in life support.

Four of my Sheps are in life support.  Drinking and weeping.  At least they have each other. 

They don't talk about the two ****es that are happy - one with Kaidan from Virmire days, and one with Garrus from Omega days.  They are actually plotting how to throw the four of them out the airlock. 

[Hadeedak]

Robin's going to go with destroy in an attempt to suicide. Unlike my Garrusmancer, she's not terribly attached to the geth anyway.

Of course, she's going to live because at this point Robin Shepard's life is a GIANT PILE OF PATHOS. Maybe retire to a desert and be a crazy hermit who sells her paintings. And only emails her mom, Kolyat (shut up, in my headcanon he got off the Citadel), and maybe Tali every now and then.