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[Eliza]

I always wonder why there is still the problem with the Kepral's anyway. The Hanar had much time to fix this (hundreds of years). Why didn't they do this? It would have been for their own benefit, too. How can it be so hard to find a cure in a universe with many kinds of implants and genetic manipulation (take a look at Miranda for example), in a universe where you can breed a Krogan incl. armor in a tank? How can it be so hard to fix the lung gene of the Drell to avoid the Kepral's?
I don't get it.

[RGC_Ines]

Hey Thane fans
Do You know if it's possible for model swapping with companions character ? ( Xbox version of game)I was thinking about change one of my companions appearance into Thane model...so I could have him again with me ...( I know I have crazy ideas but I miss Thane very much ....)

[utaker1988]

Here's what I sent them as a plausible scenario...minus the laughing, troll, and kiss my behind comments. I kept it professional.

For those trolls that say Thane cannot be cured without Space Magic. I put together a believable way to do it. Of course it makes Liara important but who cares, Thane lives without it seeming contrived. Liara knows what Thane means to Shepard, she saw the pain on her face when talking to her after the events of LotSB. Since Liara is the Shadow Broker, her access to information is limitless. From ALREADY established lore in ME: Revelation, organs are being cloned with success by the Batarians. Ding, Liara finds this out and puts 2+2 together and realizes that this would help her friend Shep. She passes this info and how it's being done to Kolyat. Liara is cunning, she knows that passing this on to Thane's son will make Thane more receptive to going through with something like this. To add some more realism in there, the "Thane must die" trolls love realism, the organs can only be cloned with healthy viable tissue. Which means right away, Thane cannot use his own but since we know that Kolyat's blood type matches Thane's it is not a stretch to assume his organ tissue would be viable as well. Winner!! Kolyat convinces his father this would be a good idea since they made up and all. Thane does it, Thane lives. Stick it trolls, I found a way that makes sense and if you are still bent on making him die then leave him unromanced and/or unloyal.

I also went into a whole crap load of detail about how this would affect the oxygen in his blood. The initial idea took less than 5 minutes, the medical crap involved took a bit longer, I didn't want a glaring hole punched in what was already established and what I was trying to say.

If they don't like that, they can go with my much simpler approach, "Go ask Miranda, she helped rebuild a dead Shepard, I'm sure a few organs are no issue for her." In no way shape or form did I EVER suggest to anyone to go harvest organs from people, I'm not that Salarian Creep in ME. I just want people to know I might have to draw a line in saving Thane. (I said might) Plus, I don't think he'd love Shep too much if she went out and got some black market organs or harvested live Drell for them.

[LucyMaire]

utaker1988 wrote...

Here's what I sent them as a plausible scenario...minus the laughing, troll, and kiss my behind comments. I kept it professional.

For those trolls that say Thane cannot be cured without Space Magic. I put together a believable way to do it. Of course it makes Liara important but who cares, Thane lives without it seeming contrived. Liara knows what Thane means to Shepard, she saw the pain on her face when talking to her after the events of LotSB. Since Liara is the Shadow Broker, her access to information is limitless. From ALREADY established lore in ME: Revelation, organs are being cloned with success by the Batarians. Ding, Liara finds this out and puts 2+2 together and realizes that this would help her friend Shep. She passes this info and how it's being done to Kolyat. Liara is cunning, she knows that passing this on to Thane's son will make Thane more receptive to going through with something like this. To add some more realism in there, the "Thane must die" trolls love realism, the organs can only be cloned with healthy viable tissue. Which means right away, Thane cannot use his own but since we know that Kolyat's blood type matches Thane's it is not a stretch to assume his organ tissue would be viable as well. Winner!! Kolyat convinces his father this would be a good idea since they made up and all. Thane does it, Thane lives. Stick it trolls, I found a way that makes sense and if you are still bent on making him die then leave him unromanced and/or unloyal.

I also went into a whole crap load of detail about how this would affect the oxygen in his blood. The initial idea took less than 5 minutes, the medical crap involved took a bit longer, I didn't want a glaring hole punched in what was already established and what I was trying to say.

If they don't like that, they can go with my much simpler approach, "Go ask Miranda, she helped rebuild a dead Shepard, I'm sure a few organs are no issue for her." In no way shape or form did I EVER suggest to anyone to go harvest organs from people, I'm not that Salarian Creep in ME. I just want people to know I might have to draw a line in saving Thane. (I said might) Plus, I don't think he'd love Shep too much if she went out and got some black market organs or harvested live Drell for them.

:happy::happy: That's genius! What are people's responses to it?

[mnomaha]

Well there was the mission to save the Hanar scientists...

Can't Glyph do it instead?

[mnomaha]

RGC_Ines wrote...

Hey Thane fans
Do You know if it's possible for model swapping with companions character ? ( Xbox version of game)I was thinking about change one of my companions appearance into Thane model...so I could have him again with me ...( I know I have crazy ideas but I miss Thane very much ....)

I don't know personally, but if you have success, please post it here!

[coldwetn0se]

Visii wrote...

There were several things they could have done.

The Hanar were working on a cure. Could have been a mission to Kahje to get it/extract the scientists, possibly tie it in, to gathering more war assets.

Thane could have gotten a lung transplant. The Medigel for the Lungs thing from the CDN also could have come into play here. Convincing Thane to take the transplant could have been dependent on his loyalty status from ME2, paragon/renegade and whether or not he was romanced. Someone had figured out a good scenario for this: that the surgery could still fail if a few of the aforementioned criteria are not met. Even if it put him out of commission for the rest of the game, talking to him, having a few conversations with him would have been worth it.

I'm just imagining right now that Thane didn't get a transplant because he wouldn't take the risk of it killing him without seeing Shepard again.

Of course, the fact that there's no romantic conversation in ME3 makes that VERY difficult...

Only because ya brought up some brilliant thoughts as always....... I'll repost mine again. I will also add the CDN report that @Tivne found and posted, at the bottom of this post.


I have mentioned this before, but it was a few months past in the Thane Thread, but they could have easily done this right for the romancers AND those that wanted (yuck) Thane to die. If LM was a success, and/or Thane was romanced and alive by the end of ME2, give the man some autonomy, and have him CHOOSE to extend his life (i.e. lung transplant, lung medi-gel, space magic I don't care....) This would take place DURING those six months that Shepard and him are separated. Still meeting him in the hospital then would work for those that didn't meet the above conditions, and for his CHOOSING to extend his life.

If he has chosen to extend his life, he still needs to check in with his Dr.'s, maybe needs some health maintenance, ect....If the above conditions were met, we have romance dialogue specific to his extending his life, and we get the chance to reaffirm the relationship. Added dialogue/scenes, the likes. Then, when the fight with Kai Leng happens, if you are in a romance with him(or friended with LM successful), he doesn't get hurt badly but Kai Leng knows that you (Shep and Co.) are now on the scene, and Kai Leng takes off. Rest of the scene plays out as normal. You still go to the hospital to check on him, those that didn't pursue a relationship with him (friend or LI) get the deathbed scene.

Those that did romance/friend him, get the chance to do a side mission for assets, AND for Thanemancers we also get a love scene. Since he was never intended to come back as a squaddie (yeah, wattever..), you can suggest that him and Kolyat return to Kahje (or they can stay on Kahje if that is where the side quest is.)

<scene and curtain>


*EDIT*

Just a quick added note. Some players who still wish to be friends with Thane, BUT still want his death (yuck), could have a few flag markers set up in the first set of dialogue options you get. For example, make a convo similiar to the Alistair "Hardening" dialogue. First two times I played DAO, I didn't choose the correct set of options to "harden" Alistair. This could then be a flag that if triggered (or in this case NOT triggered), get the deathbed scene instead. This would then cover pretty much all RP options.
1)Thane romanced, life extended,romance reconfirmed,not badly injured by Leng, side mission, asset, off to Kahje.
2)Thane friended, life extended, "hardened", not badly injured by Leng, side mission, asst, off to Kahje.
3)Thane friended/romanced, life extended, NOT "hardened" (or romance rejected), BADLY injured by Leng, deathbed scene.
4) Thane alive but unsuccessful LM, NO life extention, Kai Leng badly injures Thane, deathbed scene.

CDN Report recopied from @Tivne's post:

"A new technology is helping victims of the Vallum Blast breathe easier - literally. Researchers at U. Thierax are attacking the myriad of respiratory diseases caused by inhaling dust around the blast site. Dubbed "medi-gel for the lungs," the Eupulmos Device analyzes a patient's tissue or medicard record before adjusting its virally-delivered superdrugs to match the patient's genetic predispositions. After that, the mister sprays the aerosol into the patient's nasal passages and the drug is absorbed into the lungs. The mister can also deliver microsurgery machines to make non-invasive repairs to tissue and has a color-coded nozzle at each end with separate agent reservoirs for dextro and levo patients. Said one ER staffer, "The effect is incredible. In a year, the whole galaxy will be using these things. "





 

[Julia_xo]

coldwetn0se wrote...

Those that did romance/friend him, get the chance to do a side mission for assets, AND for Thanemancers we also get a love scene. Since he was never intended to come back as a squaddie (yeah, wattever..), you can suggest that him and Kolyat return to Kahje (or they can stay on Kahje if that is where the side quest is.)

<scene and curtain>

I love your idea, cold! The only issue is I would not want Thane and Kolyat to go anywhere near Kahje. That's where the Kepral's problem originated. I'd definitely want them to leave the Citadel though since the Reapers highjack it and probably kill everyone within.

[coldwetn0se]

Julia_xo wrote...

coldwetn0se wrote...

Those that did romance/friend him, get the chance to do a side mission for assets, AND for Thanemancers we also get a love scene. Since he was never intended to come back as a squaddie (yeah, wattever..), you can suggest that him and Kolyat return to Kahje (or they can stay on Kahje if that is where the side quest is.)

<scene and curtain>

I love your idea, cold! The only issue is I would not want Thane and Kolyat to go anywhere near Kahje. That's where the Kepral's problem originated. I'd definitely want them to leave the Citadel though since the Reapers highjack it and probably kill everyone within.

Hahaha!  Visii said the same thing the first time I posted this, and I actually agree with you, just never modified it.  Only reason I thought of Kahje was because I honestly thought they were originally going to do a mission there in me3.  Just got it stuck in my head.  

So for fun; where should they go?  I am actually asking in earnest.....I would love to hear some ideas. 

[Visii]

coldwetn0se wrote...

Julia_xo wrote...

coldwetn0se wrote...

Those that did romance/friend him, get the chance to do a side mission for assets, AND for Thanemancers we also get a love scene. Since he was never intended to come back as a squaddie (yeah, wattever..), you can suggest that him and Kolyat return to Kahje (or they can stay on Kahje if that is where the side quest is.)

<scene and curtain>

I love your idea, cold! The only issue is I would not want Thane and Kolyat to go anywhere near Kahje. That's where the Kepral's problem originated. I'd definitely want them to leave the Citadel though since the Reapers highjack it and probably kill everyone within.

Hahaha!  Visii said the same thing the first time I posted this, and I actually agree with you, just never modified it.  Only reason I thought of Kahje was because I honestly thought they were originally going to do a mission there in me3.  Just got it stuck in my head.  

So for fun; where should they go?  I am actually asking in earnest.....I would love to hear some ideas. 

Rakhana.

[LucyMaire]

I think it says on the wiki that he's 38. He was born in 2146 but I don't know when ME2 takes place.

Can't they just come on the Normandy with us?

[Sgt Reed 24]

Another thing that bugged me on this playthrough (since I had thane around), since you said something about it, was that the life support room on the normandy was accessible even though it is never used. The bathrooms aren't accessible for the other gender! lmao and the room grunt was in isn't accessible until you recruit Javik.

Kept thinking, thane could easily come aboard the normandy... I need a badass assassin, besides I might run into Kai Leng again. lol

[Xeyska]

Sgt Reed 24 wrote...

Another thing that bugged me on this playthrough (since I had thane around), since you said something about it, was that the life support room on the normandy was accessible even though it is never used. The bathrooms aren't accessible for the other gender! lmao and the room grunt was in isn't accessible until you recruit Javik.

Kept thinking, thane could easily come aboard the normandy... I need a badass assassin, besides I might run into Kai Leng again. lol

Mostly to get the ship models back, or it was kept open for another DLC character, which I wouldn't buy. Life Support is for Thane only, no one else is going in there.

Modifié par Xeyska, 01 avril 2012 - 08:08 .

[LucyMaire]

Sgt Reed 24 wrote...

Another thing that bugged me on this playthrough (since I had thane around), since you said something about it, was that the life support room on the normandy was accessible even though it is never used. The bathrooms aren't accessible for the other gender! lmao and the room grunt was in isn't accessible until you recruit Javik.

Kept thinking, thane could easily come aboard the normandy... I need a badass assassin, besides I might run into Kai Leng again. lol

Plus, his mug was still there. Maybe it's a sign! *crosses fingers*

[coldwetn0se]

@Visii - Actually Rakhana is something I have considered story wise.....always thought a trip back to the homeworld would be interesting.

@Sgt. Reed and @LucyMarie and @Mayra - I support "back on the Normandy" 100% +100000 interwebz for you both.

*Edit*
added @Mayra

Modifié par coldwetn0se, 01 avril 2012 - 08:27 .

[Niemalna]

I still wanna take him to a desert. That could be the date thing like what my Garrusmancer got. And I also want him back on the Normandy. He had 6 months with Kolyat and I go to the Citadel so often they can spend time together. And Kolyat's old enough to handle himself, but still visit a lot anyways.
But I'll take anything that's better than what we got.
Have to add that last bit on there, since I said that before ME3 came out and well.... I take it back of course...

[Sgt Reed 24]

Xeyska wrote...

Sgt Reed 24 wrote...

Another thing that bugged me on this playthrough (since I had thane around), since you said something about it, was that the life support room on the normandy was accessible even though it is never used. The bathrooms aren't accessible for the other gender! lmao and the room grunt was in isn't accessible until you recruit Javik.

Kept thinking, thane could easily come aboard the normandy... I need a badass assassin, besides I might run into Kai Leng again. lol

Mostly to get the ship models back, or it was kept open for another DLC character, which I wouldn't buy. Life Support is for Thane only, no one else is going in there.

oh right, I didn't even think about that. <_<

[coldwetn0se]

So, coming up with another PDS I'll post on the blog......thanks to @utaker and @luckythirteen for inadvertantly giving me some ideas. Cujo....err....Kudos!

[JECW]

mayrabgood wrote...

LucyMaire wrote...

I think it says on the wiki that he's 38. He was born in 2146 but I don't know when ME2 takes place.

Can't they just come on the Normandy with us?

Yes! Plenty of room on the Normandy. In Life Support. In my cabin. In my bed.... 

Didn't think about checking wiki before asking about age hehe. I just checked and since Shepard was born in 2154 then Thane is 8 years older than her meaning he's about 40 or 41 in ME3. 

Thane wasn't 38 in ME2 he was 39.

[Julia_xo]

Well here's what the wiki has to say about Rakhana:

Rakhana is the home world of the drell species.It is a dry and barren planet, covered in rocky deserts. Eight centuries ago, the already-arid drell homeworld began its swift descent into lifelessness due to disastrous industrial expansion. At the time, the drell lacked interstellar flight capacity, and with their population bursting at 11 billion they faced certain doom. It was around this time that the hanar made first contact with the drell race. In the following ten years, the hanar would transport hundreds of thousands of drell to the hanar world, Kahje. The remaining billions left on Rakhana would perish on their dying planet, warring against each other for diminishing resources. Today Rakhana is a cemetery world, home to only a few thousand living in clusters never exceeding a few hundred. However, during pilgrimage season the population can double.

So apparently people do/can live there but in very small populations. I don't feel comfortable sending Thane and Kolyat to a "cemetery" world though. :/

I've thought Intai'sei would be a good place since Shepard has an apartment there (if you completed the Pinnacle Station DLC in ME1). The wiki says:

An atmosphere similar to Earth's made Intai'sei an early candidate for human colonization. However, prohibitively high temperatures and an arid climate have proven a hindrance to terraforming and agriculture. A few human cities were founded, but the majority of the human population on Inta'sei remains scattered across the vast deserts, operating wind farms and geological research stations.

Sounds good to me. Thane and Kolyat could stay at Shepard's apartment which is surrounded by a lovely desert. I'm not sure if Reapers were near Argos Rho in the Phoenix System though? :/

Ideally, I'd just want him back on the Normandy with Shepard. He can share her cabin. I'll give Javik the honor of tossing Allers out the airlock so Kolyat can get her room. Problem solved.

[Niemalna]

When I first played, and ran across Allers, I thought she was just some random reporter. I thought I'd be nice for some kind of Paragon points since I wasn't too nice to ME2's reporter.
Then she asks if she can come on the ship, and I wondered why.
Now that I've talked to her and seen she's a romance,
I still wonder why. o.o

[coldwetn0se]

@Niemalna - And you ain't the only one wondering.....HA! <cheeky grin>

@Julia_xo - Good look up on Rakhana. Still would be interesting to see, but agreed; cemetery world not terribly cheery. I never did the Pinnacle Station in ME1, so I guess the Normandy will have to do!
If Earth wasn't being stomped on, I also thought the Mojave Dessert might work or Zion NP.

Getting all dreamy thinking of exotic desert getaways...............