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[Jenlocks]

Aislinn Trista wrote...

Julia_xo wrote...

Personally, I would love to go on a mission for a cure. Remember those rumors about a mission on Invictus to help Thane defend Hanar scientists who were working on the cure? It was false information but, to be honest, I would have loved a mission like that.

However, the pragmatic part of me thinks the lung transplant would be easier for BioWare to implement and require less resources.

Personally, I'd want a cure.  It wouldn't be easy to get, you'd have to make some tough choices and it would be a slow recovery due to his severe condition.  With a transplant, it just seems like prolonging his suffering.  His lungs aren't the only thing effected at this point.  In Chakwas' report, she says he has tumors/lesions on other organs of his body because the infection is spreading:


"Lung Capacity: 42% (left-side lung shows large lesions, right lung has nodular lesions only)

Antibiotic treatment: Now resistant to cipoxidin, malanarin, alburcin

Metastatic progress: stomach, liver (minor), heart (negligible at this time)

Treatment Options: Viable transplant candidate but refused to be added to list - Synthetic lung generation currently impossible for drell."


This was during the course of Mass Effect 2.  The fact he was still able to function, let alone fight in ME3 is amazing to say the least.  Unless they decided to retcon this, Thane has got to be in a lot of pain aside from his oxygen deprivation.

It makes me wanna cry just thinking about that.  To be honest, I've always just wanted him to have a second chance at life free of his disease entirely.  The man deserves that much.

This ^ without a cure I don't think a transplant would help him very much anyway. If that fool stabs him and its too much of a shock for his body to recover, perhaps a transplant would be risky for him in this stage. I understand he wouldn't have as much blood loss because of the controlled surgical environment but still it's kind of spooky. Once he gets the cure (depending on how it works and how his organs are) then maybe a lung transplant? But Cure all the Way for starters definately and have a transplant option later.

[Julia_xo]

In regard to the lung transplant, when do you guys see it happening?

It would probably be better to have it done during the 6 months Shepard is incarcerated because by the time they meet up again his condition could have deteriorated to a point wherein it's not even a viable option anymore. Whether he does it or not could depend on romance/loyalty?

Or would people prefer to try and persuade him to do it based on paragon/renegade points when you meet him in the hospital?

As for the mission for a cure, that's definitely my preference as well. He probably wouldn't be able to actively help due to his condition, but perhaps he could communicate with Shepard during the mission over the radio?

What kind of difficult choice could there be to make it difficult? Would acquiring the cure come at the cost of losing something else? If so, what? It's just interesting to think about.

I think Thane deserves a second chance, too.

[RShara]

It *should* be done while Shep is incarcerated, but I could see it being a conversation option after you meet up with him on the Citadel--
Shepard: Have you considered a transplant?
Thane: <insert BW lame excuse>
Shepard: You're not allowed to die. Put yourself back on the transplant list this instant or no nookie for j00

[Jenlocks]

 agree. it should be done while shepard is locked away....this is why they should have shown shep getting arrested/turing herself in at the begining of the game..all they had to do was add extra dialogue (oh no the resources!) or a scene of them talking about their future/Thane's treatment options so when you do meet up with him at the lame hospital the ball is already rolling. (that's not just Thane exclusive wouldn't you have liked to see any of your LI's say goodbye to you before you get locked away? Even one last generic run through the ship would have been fine. People who didn't romance Thane could also ask him about his treatment options as well and what he wanted to do.

*it makes me grouchy to think about all the people who are fine with his death and you know they wouldn't be sh!tting bricks about us wanting a cure for him if it was already in the game*

[Eliza]

sunnie7699 wrote...

About the 'catalyst' taking the form of Thane, I think if the indoc. theory is true, the point was that Shep didn't realise fully that she was being indoctrinated, and if the catalyst took on the form of someone she loved that obviously, she might be like 'wait what..'.

Well, Shepard saw the kid die on earth and in her nightmares - so it makes no difference and she should also wonder why the catalyst looks like the kid and if this is real or something else.

[coldwetn0se]

utaker1988 wrote...

The warning is there.....




I couldn't help it....if you don't see it at first, just wander your eyes to the upper left.   

Dammit!  Someone put a 'hudson' in our Thane shot......trolololololololol!!!!!
<bastarts>

@RShara - definately use that line in your fic.....ANNNNDDDD, speaking of fic....*rests chin in hands, fluttering lashes at Shara*  "update???  Pretty please???"

@everyone else discussing DLC (such bad short term memory...HA!) - They definately should have had the beginning starting different (ambush, arrest, all the 'pansies' who would willingly turn themselves in....j/k), so we could have had a direction for our squaddies to go in.....and for Thanemancers.....git' yur damn fine, green azz over to Chakwas, and figure out a life extention plan (lung transplant first, medi-gel treatment for pain/quality of life.  THEN, when we finally get to meet up with him again....Mission "NOT" Impossible for the cure....ummm assets!  ***t!  Of course it's for the cure, but ALSO for assets.

[RShara]

I'm sure Thane has enormous assets

Edit:  I've been too pooped to write lately  And the next chap has some rather....difficult...themes, so I need to get it just right, rather than pulling a Bioware!

Modifié par RShara, 12 avril 2012 - 05:49 .

[coldwetn0se]

RShara wrote...

I'm sure Thane has enormous assets

Edit:  I've been too pooped to write lately  And the next chap has some rather....difficult...themes, so I need to get it just right, rather than pulling a Bioware!

I understand, maestro......take your time.....no need for another bw treatment of Thane (not that I believe you would ever do that....pa-lease!)  wuv u

[JECW]

Jenlocks wrote...

 agree. it should be done while shepard is locked away....this is why they should have shown shep getting arrested/turing herself in at the begining of the game..all they had to do was add extra dialogue (oh no the resources!) or a scene of them talking about their future/Thane's treatment options so when you do meet up with him at the lame hospital the ball is already rolling. (that's not just Thane exclusive wouldn't you have liked to see any of your LI's say goodbye to you before you get locked away? Even one last generic run through the ship would have been fine. People who didn't romance Thane could also ask him about his treatment options as well and what he wanted to do.

*it makes me grouchy to think about all the people who are fine with his death and you know they wouldn't be sh!tting bricks about us wanting a cure for him if it was already in the game*

I actually thought they might show that at the beginning of the game. Shepard being arrested, and maybe some of the trial. I thought you might get to see shepard with her LI before the arrest, but none of that happened.
At the start of the game the trial seems to be over. Shepard has been their for six months already. Was the trial the entire six months? If it wasn't then what has she been doing all this time. Sitting around watching soaps.
It didn't make much sense. The game just went right to the reaper attack.

We never find out what happened to Thane right after she is arrested. Did he leave before or after it happened?
How long had he been in that hospital? Was it the entire six months?
I can't remember if the game tells you.

Modifié par JECW, 12 avril 2012 - 05:57 .

[Visii]

Dear Thane fans,

Thanks again to those of you who participated in the PAX LI Appreciation Project! As I understand it, many of the LI fans are scrambling to put together their own fan-books, and I say full steam ahead! I think it will allow fans of a particular LI to get really into just what they like about that character. But Aryss, Nick and I would appreciate it very much if you would consider submitting something to our new project: The Tribute.

http://social.biowar...ndex/11315889/1

This project is one that focuses on ALL the LI's. If you can, please contribute! The PAX LI Project was a resounding success, and garnered feedback from Patrick Weekes, who encouraged all of us to do what we can to make ourselves heard!

[Emeraldfern]

RShara wrote...

I'm sure Thane has enormous assets

Oh good god, that lead my mind to..places...with ridges

(Not that my current comic does not fill that function too heh)

[Tinve]

I do not like the idea of ​​lung transplantation. This is dangerous and not safe. Eupulmos Device is much better.

[RShara]

Emeraldfern wrote...

RShara wrote...

I'm sure Thane has enormous assets

Oh good god, that lead my mind to..places...with ridges

(Not that my current comic does not fill that function too heh)

You're welcome

[blueshepard]

Aislinn Trista wrote...

Julia_xo wrote...

Personally, I would love to go on a mission for a cure. Remember those rumors about a mission on Invictus to help Thane defend Hanar scientists who were working on the cure? It was false information but, to be honest, I would have loved a mission like that.

However, the pragmatic part of me thinks the lung transplant would be easier for BioWare to implement and require less resources.

Personally, I'd want a cure.  It wouldn't be easy to get, you'd have to make some tough choices and it would be a slow recovery due to his severe condition.  With a transplant, it just seems like prolonging his suffering.  His lungs aren't the only thing effected at this point.  In Chakwas' report, she says he has tumors/lesions on other organs of his body because the infection is spreading:


"Lung Capacity: 42% (left-side lung shows large lesions, right lung has nodular lesions only)

Antibiotic treatment: Now resistant to cipoxidin, malanarin, alburcin

Metastatic progress: stomach, liver (minor), heart (negligible at this time)

Treatment Options: Viable transplant candidate but refused to be added to list - Synthetic lung generation currently impossible for drell."


This was during the course of Mass Effect 2.  The fact he was still able to function, let alone fight in ME3 is amazing to say the least.  Unless they decided to retcon this, Thane has got to be in a lot of pain aside from his oxygen deprivation.

It makes me wanna cry just thinking about that.  To be honest, I've always just wanted him to have a second chance at life free of his disease entirely.  The man deserves that much.

I still cannot understand why they gave us a hint like this before. I have to be honest: I wasn't worried about Thane before ME3 came out. I thought: with hints like that, this great banner for the Cure thing - which hang up in their office, well yes I was this naive little girl who thought: no way they would kill him at all. Look at the Interview Video, the ME2 Cover, this lovely Cinematic Trailer (which stunned me like hell.... and it still do.... when I saw him there I couldn't think anymore. I just wished this beautiful creature to be real) and then I got to know he was a LI actually. They could never ever kill this guy. But they did. Because of the drama. And I am still thinking: why the hints, why the hope they gave us, why did they throw something like him to us and just take him away again the way they did... I still love Bioware, I am quite a Fangirl at all. But I am getting to hate EA. This was just without words for me. I just couldn't and stil cannot believe it. I want him back and cured. Nothing else brings the joy of ME3 back to me at all. I wanna listen to his voice again, seeing new scenes and everything....

<ridges>

Well I know, I know you all knew it But it is in fact still my favorite pic of him and I just have to add it. Could someone please get him out of this picture into real life?



It is taken from the CGI company called Blur who created the Cinematic Video for ME2

[wildannie]

Cure, effective treatment to keep it in check, transplant.... I'll take any of them at this point. I would prefer a cure.

I'm with you in your confusion Yamainu, what they chose to do with Thane and Jacob (that is totally shaft those players who cared the most) is something I just can't get my head round... there is no way I can think of those choices and think... yeah I can see why they thought that would be a good.

It was at worst heartless and cruel and at best totally thoughtless. I accept that the writers may have had their hands tied though.

I won't give up the fight but there is only one thing that will get me playing ME3 again 'CURE THANE KRIOS!!!' I'm stubborn that way.

[blueshepard]

wildannie wrote...

Cure, effective treatment to keep it in check, transplant.... I'll take any of them at this point. I would prefer a cure.

I'm with you in your confusion Yamainu, what they chose to do with Thane and Jacob (that is totally shaft those players who cared the most) is something I just can't get my head round... there is no way I can think of those choices and think... yeah I can see why they thought that would be a good.

It was at worst heartless and cruel and at best totally thoughtless. I accept that the writers may have had their hands tied though.

I won't give up the fight but there is only one thing that will get me playing ME3 again 'CURE THANE KRIOS!!!' I'm stubborn that way.

Yes this Jacob thing.... was just.... terrible. I showed it my boyfriend - who really wasn't a Jocobmancer at all - and he were just standing there, not able to say anything bout this. He didn't like this guy at all but in the end he came up with: How the hell could Bioware do this to that guy? It is just horrible if you romanced him. And I agreed that much -.-

Still in my opinion EA just screwed a lot here. I mean this release date was really tough. That was the main point in my opinion. I would have waited one more year and gave them ALL THE TIME THEY NEEDED to get this epic game done. 1 year more - well nor problem at all for me. Thane would have been worth it. I think Bioware wouldn't speak of it at all but I am quite sure Thane would be alive if they were just given the time they needed. They focused on the main important facts of the game: the story at all and the LIs which were most popular at all. Thane wasn't. And so what should they do without time and ressources? The easiest way of all: making this happen what they told you in ME2 would happen at all. I think they just thought: the guys KNEW he would die - so just focuse on more important things and let him die. Sorry if this sounds a bit rude at all - but if I think of all this I am getting angry everytime. I am quite sure we lost him because of they didn't get enough time. Or I really want to BELIEVE this. They created him.... they just have to feel a little bit the way we feel, didn't they?

I love your stubborn attitude - I am with you! CURE THANE KRIOS! For all of us!  *hugs* - no joy elsewhere and stucking in ME2. My story ends there.

Modifié par yamainu1984, 12 avril 2012 - 08:38 .

[Julia_xo]

JECW wrote...

Jenlocks wrote...

 agree. it should be done while shepard is locked away....this is why they should have shown shep getting arrested/turing herself in at the begining of the game..all they had to do was add extra dialogue (oh no the resources!) or a scene of them talking about their future/Thane's treatment options so when you do meet up with him at the lame hospital the ball is already rolling. (that's not just Thane exclusive wouldn't you have liked to see any of your LI's say goodbye to you before you get locked away? Even one last generic run through the ship would have been fine. People who didn't romance Thane could also ask him about his treatment options as well and what he wanted to do.

*it makes me grouchy to think about all the people who are fine with his death and you know they wouldn't be sh!tting bricks about us wanting a cure for him if it was already in the game*

I actually thought they might show that at the beginning of the game. Shepard being arrested, and maybe some of the trial. I thought you might get to see shepard with her LI before the arrest, but none of that happened.
At the start of the game the trial seems to be over. Shepard has been their for six months already. Was the trial the entire six months? If it wasn't then what has she been doing all this time. Sitting around watching soaps.
It didn't make much sense. The game just went right to the reaper attack.

We never find out what happened to Thane right after she is arrested. Did he leave before or after it happened? How long had he been in that hospital? Was it the entire six months?
I can't remember if the game tells you.

Bolded for truth. We should have gotten the chance to ask Thane about all of that. The one conversation we had with him just focused on his illness and why he can't (or won't) return to the Normandy.

Would it have been so hard to add more conversations? He's sitting in that lobby and you can repeat the single conversation again and again. Why couldn't they add to it?

The overall impression I get is that they treated his character like an afterthought and put in the bare mininum effort. And they apparently wanted to get him out of the way quick since he dies so early in the game and is promptly forgotten about.

[utaker1988]

I was at the mall with the girls and GameStop is across from the salon, so I walked over. Lots of used copies of ME3 there.   But anyway, they still had their ME3 ad standee (heh, the other GameStop in this area lost theirs to me during the midnight drawing), it was dusty on top so I wrote "Cure Thane" in the dust and walked away.    

[coldwetn0se]

utaker1988 wrote...

I was at the mall with the girls and GameStop is across from the salon, so I walked over. Lots of used copies of ME3 there.   But anyway, they still had their ME3 ad standee (heh, the other GameStop in this area lost theirs to me during the midnight drawing), it was dusty on top so I wrote "Cure Thane" in the dust and walked away.    

Dat's me gyrl......ya get a cookie!

[Julia_xo]

utaker1988 wrote...

I was at the mall with the girls and GameStop is across from the salon, so I walked over. Lots of used copies of ME3 there.   But anyway, they still had their ME3 ad standee (heh, the other GameStop in this area lost theirs to me during the midnight drawing), it was dusty on top so I wrote "Cure Thane" in the dust and walked away.    

*slow clap* That is awesome. Way to spread the message. Cure Thane!

<3

[RShara]

utaker1988 wrote...

I was at the mall with the girls and GameStop is across from the salon, so I walked over. Lots of used copies of ME3 there.   But anyway, they still had their ME3 ad standee (heh, the other GameStop in this area lost theirs to me during the midnight drawing), it was dusty on top so I wrote "Cure Thane" in the dust and walked away.    

OMG I WANT A PICTURE

[blueshepard]

utaker1988 wrote...

I was at the mall with the girls and GameStop is across from the salon, so I walked over. Lots of used copies of ME3 there.   But anyway, they still had their ME3 ad standee (heh, the other GameStop in this area lost theirs to me during the midnight drawing), it was dusty on top so I wrote "Cure Thane" in the dust and walked away.    

That's the spirit xD I love this!

[JECW]

Julia_xo wrote...

JECW wrote...

I actually thought they might show that at the beginning of the game. Shepard being arrested, and maybe some of the trial. I thought you might get to see shepard with her LI before the arrest, but none of that happened.
At the start of the game the trial seems to be over. Shepard has been their for six months already. Was the trial the entire six months? If it wasn't then what has she been doing all this time. Sitting around watching soaps.
It didn't make much sense. The game just went right to the reaper attack.

We never find out what happened to Thane right after she is arrested. Did he leave before or after it happened? How long had he been in that hospital? Was it the entire six months?
I can't remember if the game tells you.

Bolded for truth. We should have gotten the chance to ask Thane about all of that. The one conversation we had with him just focused on his illness and why he can't (or won't) return to the Normandy.

Would it have been so hard to add more conversations? He's sitting in that lobby and you can repeat the single conversation again and again. Why couldn't they add to it?

The overall impression I get is that they treated his character like an afterthought and put in the bare mininum effort. And they apparently wanted to get him out of the way quick since he dies so early in the game and is promptly forgotten about.

Exactly.
Every other character was doing something, but not Thane. If he was at one point we probably won't know about it. You know what Jack, Jacob, and Miranda have been doing. It's like right after ME2 Thane went straight to the hospital and never left. All the other ME2 LI's got some kind of mission. Thane's mission was to sit in that hospital staring out the window. It was like he had just given up on life while shepard goes all over the citadel like it's nothing. Would it have been so hard to give us some kind of date or to talk to him about anything other than his illness. ME2 wasn't like that. He had so much more to say in ME2, and there was so much more we could have learned about him.

I agee that they put no effort into that romance, and he dies so early in the game. I really don't think he had a real writer for ME3.

[utaker1988]

RShara wrote...

utaker1988 wrote...

I was at the mall with the girls and GameStop is across from the salon, so I walked over. Lots of used copies of ME3 there.   But anyway, they still had their ME3 ad standee (heh, the other GameStop in this area lost theirs to me during the midnight drawing), it was dusty on top so I wrote "Cure Thane" in the dust and walked away.    

OMG I WANT A PICTURE

I can't get a pic of the one in the mall but if you want me to walk into my living room and write Cure Thane on mine, I think I can do that.  I might have to make my own dust though.  

[RShara]

Awww I wanted to see the mall one. Would have been hilarious with the GS backdrop

DO IT NEXT TIME!