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[Jenlocks]

utaker1988 wrote...

RShara wrote...

utaker1988 wrote...

I was at the mall with the girls and GameStop is across from the salon, so I walked over. Lots of used copies of ME3 there.   But anyway, they still had their ME3 ad standee (heh, the other GameStop in this area lost theirs to me during the midnight drawing), it was dusty on top so I wrote "Cure Thane" in the dust and walked away.    

OMG I WANT A PICTURE

I can't get a pic of the one in the mall but if you want me to walk into my living room and write Cure Thane on mine, I think I can do that.  I might have to make my own dust though.  

I can imagine all the ME3 promotional posters, signs, standee's being graffitied with Cure Thane... but that's just my deliquency and probably not the best impression we want to give at the moment 

still..one or two couldn't hurt :innocent:

Modifié par Jenlocks, 13 avril 2012 - 12:06 .

[JECW]

utaker1988 wrote...

I was at the mall with the girls and GameStop is across from the salon, so I walked over. Lots of used copies of ME3 there.   But anyway, they still had their ME3 ad standee (heh, the other GameStop in this area lost theirs to me during the midnight drawing), it was dusty on top so I wrote "Cure Thane" in the dust and walked away.    

I would have liked to have seen that.
They have lots of used copies already. That should tell bioware something.

Modifié par JECW, 13 avril 2012 - 12:08 .

[utaker1988]

In position.....



Target in sight....



 Heh heh, I really would like to see him take a shot at her. 

[Alanosborn1991]

Relevant

[RShara]

I died taking this shot..

[utaker1988]

I wish I had all my stuff from a year ago, in a fit of rage, I deleted everything without thinking. I labeled everything Mass Effect and when I finished 3, well I removed the games from my PC, I also deleted EVERY folder that even said Mass Effect. I felt really stupid. LOL...no, I still feel really stupid about it.

[sunnie7699]

RShara wrote...

I died taking this shot..

Shep's been drell-licking before a mission again -__- haha

[sunnie7699]

utaker1988 wrote...

I wish I had all my stuff from a year ago, in a fit of rage, I deleted everything without thinking. I labeled everything Mass Effect and when I finished 3, well I removed the games from my PC, I also deleted EVERY folder that even said Mass Effect. I felt really stupid. LOL...no, I still feel really stupid about it.

I'm very tempted to uninstall ME3, but I'm waiting for the EC DLC, and also to see if they do anything about ME2 romances.. doesn't mean I'll play it for anything other than the occassional multiplayer, although I do blame MP for the 'lack of resources' and cut content from the 'single player campaign' <_<

[mnomaha]

I do too sunnie. Had they used their resources properly and that includes NOT implementing MP in the third game of a freaking trilogy, we might have had a much better outcome. Then again, seems the derps forgot about him, so who knows what really would have happened.

[utaker1988]

I have ME3 for the PC but I never installed it. I played it on the xbox first, then again, and it has been sitting on my shelf with other rejected games. I put ME2 back in the xbox, played it, cried, tried FFXIII realized Snow is troll Leng, tossed it to the rejected shelf, tried ME2 again and have been successful. Works if you convince yourself of the following: ME3 never happened because of ANY of the following Shep licked Thane one too many times and everything after that is a hallucination, Shepard became indoctrinated during Arrival (hey it had the black swirly lines in there too) so ME3 never "really" happened, or you killed off Shep during the SM and therefore you could not have experienced those things.

If you can successfully convince yourself that any of those things happened then you can walk around in a state of bliss, like I do and enjoy ME2 again.

[sunnie7699]

utaker1988 wrote...

I have ME3 for the PC but I never installed it. I played it on the xbox first, then again, and it has been sitting on my shelf with other rejected games. I put ME2 back in the xbox, played it, cried, tried FFXIII realized Snow is troll Leng, tossed it to the rejected shelf, tried ME2 again and have been successful. Works if you convince yourself of the following: ME3 never happened because of ANY of the following Shep licked Thane one too many times and everything after that is a hallucination, Shepard became indoctrinated during Arrival (hey it had the black swirly lines in there too) so ME3 never "really" happened, or you killed off Shep during the SM and therefore you could not have experienced those things.

If you can successfully convince yourself that any of those things happened then you can walk around in a state of bliss, like I do and enjoy ME2 again.

Yup, I convince myself ME3 never happened, and that after the SM Shepard convinces Thane to let her put in effort into finding a cure/treatment for him.
With Liara's resources and Mordin's expertise she helps the Hanar scientists with their effort to find a cure. So they're working on the cure, and then Shep can go to earth for her trial, she get's incarcerated or whatever, and then ME3 events can happen but when she meets up with Thane she finds out that they made an effective treatment and so Thane is on his way to being healthy again.
The scientists, with Mordin's own research and Liara's help (obviously Liara and Mordin are now more concerned with the crucible/genophage but from the help they provided earlier after the SM) are also well on the way to a cure, so Thane will be fine
Then Thane joins Shep and everything that happens in ME3 happens (but Thane doesn't get stabbed).

Also, maybe cerberus could have tried to attack the hanar scientists because they felt that the developing cure for Drell might be a threat, in which case shep and thane can have an awesome mission to protect them! YEAH head canon for the win!

[utaker1988]

I like Shep's selfish friends..not really. You ever notice that she is always doing stuff for her friends, loyalty missions, some stuff for Garrus, Wrex, Tali in ME1 (if she was supposed to do something personal for Liara or Kaidan I don't remember or I just didn't do them) but have any of them stepped up and said, "You know Shep, is there anything we can do for YOU?" I don't mean helping to save millions, billions of lives that's not on a friendship/personal level as each of them could have told her "Uh no, we don't want too, go ask the Alliance or Cerberus for troops." Point is, some of them knew damn well that Thane meant something to her and not one of them said, "you know Shep loves Thane, let's try to find a cure for him/convince him to get a transplant/research anything out there that could help him." Six months is a long time for someone to want to do something. But nooooooo.....she's out and it's war.

Dang, nobody can even get the woman flowers, chocolate, or even give sympathy when her love dies. The closest I've seen anyone come close to giving her anything is that prayer from Thane on his deathbed. Yeah Liara gave her those dog tags but that doesn't count as they were hers to begin with. Everyone...I need your help. Thane....I don't need your help, I want it. One of the reasons why Shep liked Thane from the beginning was because he didn't start off with, "If you want me on your mission you will have to do X first." Do you know how many times I wanted to say, "Oh bite me, I have enough people as it is" and just walk away.

[sunnie7699]

utaker1988 wrote...

I like Shep's selfish friends..not really. You ever notice that she is always doing stuff for her friends, loyalty missions, some stuff for Garrus, Wrex, Tali in ME1 (if she was supposed to do something personal for Liara or Kaidan I don't remember or I just didn't do them) but have any of them stepped up and said, "You know Shep, is there anything we can do for YOU?" I don't mean helping to save millions, billions of lives that's not on a friendship/personal level as each of them could have told her "Uh no, we don't want too, go ask the Alliance or Cerberus for troops." Point is, some of them knew damn well that Thane meant something to her and not one of them said, "you know Shep loves Thane, let's try to find a cure for him/convince him to get a transplant/research anything out there that could help him." Six months is a long time for someone to want to do something. But nooooooo.....she's out and it's war.

Dang, nobody can even get the woman flowers, chocolate, or even give sympathy when her love dies. The closest I've seen anyone come close to giving her anything is that prayer from Thane on his deathbed. Yeah Liara gave her those dog tags but that doesn't count as they were hers to begin with. Everyone...I need your help. Thane....I don't need your help, I want it. One of the reasons why Shep liked Thane from the beginning was because he didn't start off with, "If you want me on your mission you will have to do X first." Do you know how many times I wanted to say, "Oh bite me, I have enough people as it is" and just walk away.

This.

Liara of all people would have offered to help Shepard, in the time she was on the Shadow Broker ship at least, it would have been easy for her to have funded research and found top scientists (Salarian, hanar, anyone) to help Thane, and she would do it for Shep if they were friends. But no, apparently Thane was just a fling and Shep didn't really care all that much that he was dying in ME3..

[Miss Krios]

Miss Krios wrote...

Love story Jane Shepard and Thane Krios - sooo Amazing!
by "DAO занят кемто другим :)"

youtu.be/paETLvxV6AY

And why such ending isn't present in game?!

and here...

Modifié par Miss Krios, 13 avril 2012 - 07:43 .

[Hisilome]

utaker1988 wrote...

I like Shep's selfish friends..not really. You ever notice that she is always doing stuff for her friends, loyalty missions, some stuff for Garrus, Wrex, Tali in ME1 (if she was supposed to do something personal for Liara or Kaidan I don't remember or I just didn't do them) but have any of them stepped up and said, "You know Shep, is there anything we can do for YOU?" I don't mean helping to save millions, billions of lives that's not on a friendship/personal level as each of them could have told her "Uh no, we don't want too, go ask the Alliance or Cerberus for troops." Point is, some of them knew damn well that Thane meant something to her and not one of them said, "you know Shep loves Thane, let's try to find a cure for him/convince him to get a transplant/research anything out there that could help him." Six months is a long time for someone to want to do something. But nooooooo.....she's out and it's war.

Dang, nobody can even get the woman flowers, chocolate, or even give sympathy when her love dies. The closest I've seen anyone come close to giving her anything is that prayer from Thane on his deathbed. Yeah Liara gave her those dog tags but that doesn't count as they were hers to begin with. Everyone...I need your help. Thane....I don't need your help, I want it. One of the reasons why Shep liked Thane from the beginning was because he didn't start off with, "If you want me on your mission you will have to do X first." Do you know how many times I wanted to say, "Oh bite me, I have enough people as it is" and just walk away.

Hehe, I had Garrus say exactly that in my in progress fic...that Shep has bent over backwards to help them out on many occasions and it's high time they did something to help her in return!

And yup, indeed, one would have expected someone to do something to help with Thane...even just mention they're sorry for her loss after he died, at the very least!!

[wildannie]

utaker1988 wrote...

I like Shep's selfish friends..not really. You ever notice that she is always doing stuff for her friends, loyalty missions, some stuff for Garrus, Wrex, Tali in ME1 (if she was supposed to do something personal for Liara or Kaidan I don't remember or I just didn't do them) but have any of them stepped up and said, "You know Shep, is there anything we can do for YOU?" I don't mean helping to save millions, billions of lives that's not on a friendship/personal level as each of them could have told her "Uh no, we don't want too, go ask the Alliance or Cerberus for troops." Point is, some of them knew damn well that Thane meant something to her and not one of them said, "you know Shep loves Thane, let's try to find a cure for him/convince him to get a transplant/research anything out there that could help him." Six months is a long time for someone to want to do something. But nooooooo.....she's out and it's war.

Dang, nobody can even get the woman flowers, chocolate, or even give sympathy when her love dies. The closest I've seen anyone come close to giving her anything is that prayer from Thane on his deathbed. Yeah Liara gave her those dog tags but that doesn't count as they were hers to begin with. Everyone...I need your help. Thane....I don't need your help, I want it. One of the reasons why Shep liked Thane from the beginning was because he didn't start off with, "If you want me on your mission you will have to do X first." Do you know how many times I wanted to say, "Oh bite me, I have enough people as it is" and just walk away.

OH YES!

When playing a shepard who romanced thane, she doesn't have any good friends, it's so awful.  What with Liara always fawning over Shepard giving the tags it's like she let Thane die on purpose to give herself a chance... cow <_< (i don't really mean that... well I do just a little bit:P)

[utaker1988]

In my second playthrough, I gibbed the save files a couple of times just to see. This playthrough originally had NO LI from ME1 but I changed it to make it Liara just so I could see if she said anything to Shep. Right after Shep comes back from seeing Thane from the first time, Liara asks her about Thane on the Normandy. "I know you and Thane were close." Were? WTF? He wasn't dead yet. You, Liara, out of all the others KNEW he was more than a fling. Forget our convo on the Normandy after LotSB and at that point it was pretty obvious that there was no relationship between Liara and Shep because she had chosen Thane. And here you are asking about "us." Even if you did forget, you know it all Liara, I'm sure you are aware of that show in the hospital waiting room we just put on. (It wasn't exactly private). Since she likes stalking Shep, I'm sure she knew exactly what occurred during their visit. (Heck, she knew about Thane in ME2). Not much gets by Liara, she is a very good information broker. (Or maybe not since she totally forgot about the comments made on Cerberus Normandy). So the whole "were" in that statement, pissed Shep off. I edited the game file again, no LI again, just Thane.

Out of all the people (even if I don't care for her), she KNEW and that's what irritates me. It's like the writers didn't even bother to remember or look up that Liara did know he was important before they threw in stupid statements like that. Were...LOL... I wanted to smack her hard enough to leave a blue stain on the wall.

[Cyansomnia]

@utaker

That is one of the reasons I like Thane so much. He isn't selfish at all. He's always putting others before himself, including the welfare of his son. The reason he asks for Shepard's help is because he considers her/him a friend and wants their emotional support.

Even when pursuing Nassana, he goes out of his way to protect innocent salarian workers from Eclipse mercenaries. He doesn't approve of morally abhorrent decisions made by Shepard, either. There is a sense of honor and kindness there, hiding underneath that cold professionalism.

In the romance, he always tells Shepard any time he has belongs to her. He selflessly focuses on her a great deal, because it's obvious that he loves her. This all seems so glaringly absent in ME3. It's incredibly upsetting.

The only place that actually shines through is when he offers to protect the VS and says 'I have few loves left, and you are my last. Let me do what I can for you.'   THAT is the Thane I remember.

If they expanded the romance in ME3 (god willing), I want my Shepard to be able to show the same curtesy to him. Considering what they did regarding the relationships they actually put effort into, his could have been jaw-droppingly beautiful. I wish whoever had written those would be given free reign to do his.

Modifié par Aislinn Trista, 13 avril 2012 - 05:59 .

[coldwetn0se]

I am not a huge fan of angst. That doesn't mean everything has to go smoothly all the time, and "happy times" should take work. And, I still believe in choice (including angsty choices.) I use DAO a lot as an example for this, but with all the many outcomes you can have, it is a good example to use (IMO). They even had some surprises up their sleeves when they wrote DAO. I remember the first time I got "dumped" by Alistair, I had NO idea that could happen! *Zoinks* Interestingly enough, the elf warden I was RPing was some what of a pragmatist, and took stuff like this in stride......and then went and 'Boinked' Zevran........heyyy..girls got needs! She was not exactly the friendliest warden I played with.

My long and meandering point is, they could have done all of this (resources, time, bleh......) for Thane, and they didn't. I hope they offer us something more (if anything at all) than just a couple extra lines. I guess we wait and see.........

[utaker1988]

Yes, Aislinn that is also one of the many reasons I always chose Thane. I could feel his displeasure sometimes on Shep's actions and over time, I found my renegade Cameron leading toward the paragon path. I've replayed her over and over and as time went on, she became mostly paragon. Smacking Elias and the reporter is her downfall. I suppose one could say, "well keep him on the ship", I couldn't do that. I tried during Zaeed's LM once because I intended to let the workers burn but I could not do it at that point. She just knew he would not be pleased and she felt as if she would be lying to him. Weird, since she actually didn't tell him a lie but it would feel like one because she purposely left him behind to act like a jerk. So any sense of her reforming was really just a charade and thus, a lie.

In the end, Thane is the ONE person whose opinions mattered to her. The contrast between who she was in ME1 and when she met Thane is so glaring. That is what struck me when I sat back and watched her personality and character shift. Then I watched as she turned into an empty shell, a lost soul when he died. It was like she died in that room with him. Even though he was not at her side before his death, she felt his presence, just knowing he was out there.

And like Thane, there is not single thing I would not do for my girls. I try to guide them everyday and hope that I can prevent them from making the same horrible mistakes I've made in my past. I saw myself within Thane when he needed to stop Kolyat. I would have done the same thing. To be honest, had someone told me, "we don't have time for this or flat out 'no'." Well, I would have taken the first opportunity to bolt and go do it myself.

When he died, ouch it hurt more than I thought it would. But it wasn't just the death, it was the lack of dialogue, the romance, the butchering of Shep's emotions and responses, it was everything. The last time I felt my heart sink and get physically ill like that was the day I looked out in the ocean and noticed my daughter was not there. Sad to compare the two but one does not forget a feeling like that. Ugh, I still cry when I remember sitting there helpless in the sand, watching the coast guard search for her, begging to whatever is out there greater than I to find her. She was found an hour later, she had wandered in the wrong direction out of the ocean but that one hour felt like an eternity. That is a gut punch, a rip your heart out and stomp on it moment and that is how I felt when I watched what they did in ME3. Sorry but that kind of emotion is NOT the kind people find pleasant or worth revisiting. That is why I cannot replay the game just as I have never let my daughter out of my sight since that day (July 16, 2011).

[Cosmochyck]

I agree with everything said above!  That is also one of the reasons I chose Thane - he seemed to be selfless.  And honest.  He tells you he's dying up front.  And once you get to know him, it's just more awesome Thane.  He wants to right the wrongs with his son, and set him on the correct path.  He WANTS to see you, to talk to you, to help you.  And other than that line in ME3 as Aislinn pointed out about him watching over the VS, nothing about any of their VERY limited interactions in ME3 seemed like FemShep OR Thane.    All I want is the CHOICE to save him - is that too much to ask out a game based on choice? 

And as for the MP taking resources away from SP - EA should look to Halo (yes I know lots of people don't like it).  It has an awesome MP, and (IMO) a very good story (granted linear, but still).  Everyone I have ever met that has played MP Halo has completed the SP as well.  And thoroughly enjoyed it.  So there is no reason that one "aspect" of a game should take away from the other!!  Grrrrrrr 

[wildannie]

*takes break from pimping ME2 DLC poll, reads posts*

@utaker, it was unsettling how deeply heartsick the treatment of Thane made me feel, I think the depth of the games BW has been making in recent years cuts deeper than other story telling mediums and they don't seem to be fully aware of this. That must have been a horrific hour, gives me a deep chill in my gut just thinking about it, so glad it turned out okay in the end.

@Cosmo It's not right but in my mind there is no doubt that MP had a significant role in the mess that was ME3 SP. I really hated it when I found myself in a MP map in the single player and the focus on invisble 'assets' etc all seemed to be geared towards accommodating the feature. I've never really got into Halo so I can't really comment on that. It seems that profit is coming well before vision at BW just now and I'm a bit lost as to what to do. I backed wasteland 2 on kickstarter to cheer myself up.

*stops rambling and shambles off to the kitchen for an amaretto on ice*

[Cosmochyck]

Oh Annie I agree! That's why I think EA should look to Halo to see how you can do both well. And not have one be short changed due to the other!
Can I have an amaretto too??

[wildannie]

Cosmochyck wrote...

Oh Annie I agree! That's why I think EA should look to Halo to see how you can do both well. And not have one be short changed due to the other!
Can I have an amaretto too??

Sure! *hands Angie large amaretto on ice*

Cheers!

You're right, but what worries me is that I don't think EA cares, in the time it takes for them to bring the creativity of  a company to its knees (whilst making huge profit) there's time for new talent to develop and be bought over by the time BW have been sucked dry.

*takes off cynical hat*  ... it's not very becoming:P

[blueshepard]

Couldn't have said it any better in a way.... They just were screwing up the "old" fans to get more money out of this whole thing and that's whats the really dissapointing part at this whole thing. Mass Effect never needed a MP in the past. They sacrificed our beloved ones to the profit at all. It is quite hard to say, but I think it is the truth at some point. Telling the people they forgot about someone who is at the ME2 regular cover? Yeah of course...The MP isn't a bad thing at all, but for the sake of our characters? No.

Bioware were/are the company which really did it the last years. I am into video games since about 20 years now, but ME is still a little bit like a dream to me. Some kind of master piece at all. They talked about the reactions on the ending a lot these days. Some press releases really talked about the anger of the fans, told in some articles that we should let them be because a video game is art, and art should not changed by the fans at all (sorry I hope you know what I mean - english words missing in my vocabulary), but I ask: could it be artitistic freedom if you have to work under that pressure of time and monay at all, perhaps told by EA to cut something out, just to get this MP in? Could it be artistic freedom to settle a MP up and cut your own story for this? I really don't know at all....

Mmmmh amaretto.... *wanders off to kitchen*