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[Emeraldfern]

mythlover20 wrote...

Hi Everyone.

I've been reading all the posts and I have to say that I agree with, well, all of you it seems, regarding Thane's moral philosophies. So instead of repeating you all, I'm going to show you the new men in my life.

In fact, I have Three Thane's in my life:

This one:


This one:


And now, THIS ONE!


Isn't he purdy!

Also, and the real point of this post, I'm working on the introduction of the introduction to the Thane Fanbook, and I have an idea for it, so could you please let me know what your/your Shepard's expectations about Thane before his RM and then their/your reaction to him during his RM? I've got mine, but I was wondering how similiar our experiences were. I may be able to use it and write something that we can all relate to.

ZOMG! That is one purdy violin! Makes me miss the days i played it myself : )

/Offtopic
One of my cats (a brown tabby with green eyes) has been named after Thane (although not as his first name sine the cat was born in 2002) he even has this raspy meow and is way more intelligent than the other cats in the house :3

/Ontopic again
As for RM reactions and expectations I remember this (As seen from my Paragon infiltrator's perspective):

Expectation: Hmm.. a drell assassin. I hope can be persuaded to join my team, after all assassins are not known for their "team spirit". From a tactical viewpoint I hope he can compliment my tech abilities.

During the mission: Odd, an assassin that saves civilians in the middle of a contract. I hope this means his reasoning regarding his proffesion is a somewhat moral one. Not that I will stop him from reaching Nassana, that asari has it coming.

So this is our assassin... that was an amazing showcase of his skills.
Although he is  not quite what I expected... I... have to admit drell are alluring...

Oh snap! Focus Shepard! You had a reason to recruit him remember!

Religious? Hmm...Nassana doesn't deserve any prayers in my book though. Oh, that wasn't for Nassana? 
Huh, so you'll join me? Just like that for a suicide mission? 
What! You're sick? Wll you be ok? Oh, I see.

I sincerely hope he will be fine, I don't want anyone on my team dying. Not on my watch.
Jenkins and Williams was enough and Garrus came close I don't want that for anyone on my team.

[sunnie7699]

utaker1988 wrote...

sunnie7699 wrote...


Wow, that's incredible! I can just imagine their voice actors even voicing these lines actually But do you think Thane would have told Javik about Irikah?

Ok, let's say he does and mind you, Javik is a troll his opinions are his own and not mine.

Javik:  Drell, earlier you mentioned you hunted your wife's killers.
Thane:  Yes, I did.  Is this leading somewhere?  Could you call me Thane or Krios something other than Drell?
Javik:  No I do not wish too, Drell.  Why was she killed?  
Thane:  She was killed by batarian slavers, I had assassinated their leaders.
Javik:  Your job led to her death.  Interesting.  Why was she exposed?  Would a good assassin not keep their family hidden?
Thane:  I became complacent, I left them alone too long.  I made a mistake.
Javik:  That you did, must be that wonderful drell logic your race is known for.
Thane:  Javik, I am getting tired of your insults.
Javik:  Merely adding a truthful observation.  You said them?  You had more than one wife?
Thane:  No, I had one wife and a son.
Javik:  So, you left your wife AND son unprotected?  I am having some serious problems with you right now.
Thane:  As I am with you.
Javik:  You expect me to trust you will look out for me on the battlefield?  You did not protect ones you claimed to love?  I cannot wait to see what happens to me.
Thane:  Javik, I did not leave them unprotected on purpose.  I never thought anyone would come for them.  Trust me, you will come to no harm as long as Shepard wants you around.
Javik:  I am to trust a man who left his family.  Tell me why I should not shoot you dead right now.
Thane:  That would be suicide.  I am sure Shepard would kill you where you stand if you did.
Javik:  I question her logic at the moment.  Why she would be with a man who left his family unprotected is beyond my scope of comprehension.
Thane:  That is my past, I made mistakes, and I have learned from them.  Why is her logic in question?
Javik:  Do you love her?  Like you loved your wife?
Thane:  Do you ever answer a question?  Yes, I love her.  
Javik:  Yes I answer questions but your answers always end up requiring more questions.  Answer the other one.  Do you love her like you loved your wife?
Thane:  I am in love with her, yes.  The love I feel for her is different than what I felt for Irikah.  It is not fair to compare the two.
Javik:  You dance around my questions, Drell, my patience is wearing thin.  Try this.  Would you ever ask her to be your wife?  Do you love her like that?
Thane:  Javik, that is rather personal.  Why would I answer that to you if it is something I have not discussed with her?
Javik:  So the answer is no then, you do not love the Commander as you did your wife.
Thane: I did not say that.
Javik: You don't consider her marriage material.  It is just pleasure of the skin then?  I suppose she is lucky.
Thane:  I never said any of those things and no she is more than that.  If you insist, if we were in better circumstances, not in war, I would consider committing myself to her.
Javik:  Well, she's not as lucky as I thought.
Thane:  What does that mean?
Javik:  You loved your wife, you left her alone and she died.  I can only imagine Shepard would suffer the same fate.  I wouldn't want your kind of love.
Thane:  You really are a jerk.
Javik:  /trollface.jpg

Haha awesome! Oh Javik, Thane certainly would regret letting it slip that it was his fault Irikah died after all that! If Shepard were there, she would kick Javik's ass.

[Moira-chan]

omg xD what would shepard reponse on that oooh i love it xD poor thane. xD javik is not easy to handle xD

[Little Vixen]

obtuse4ngle wrote...

Ok, if Thane has adopted this attitude as a result of his upbringing in order to "cope" with things, that makes sense. I still feel he's wrong because when in the end, he's still the one making the choice to pull the trigger.

I think he does take responsiblity for his actions. When we meet Thane he has been out of the Hanar's service for quite some time. He picks his contracts. He doesn't just take any job that comes his way. After he takes his contract, he is the "arm" of who ever hired him, but he does pick who he works for carefully. He researches what he is to do. The killing itself he may see as the resposiblity of the person who hired him, but he is quite careful about who is giving the kill order in the first place and who the person is who is to be killed.  Thane has taken many very, very bad people out of the universe.

As Thane puts it: "Siha, I've made a living by killing those who deserve to die. We must struggle that we do not become what we hate."

He also tell Shepard that he has "righted many wrongs" and that the universe is full of darkness and that he has tried to bring light into it before he dies.

I think Thane cares deeply about what he has done and he tries very hard to make the universe a better place. He sees that same crusade in Shepard and that is their connection.

[Verly]

ugh, Penny caught up with Thane in the hospital...it really *is* that bad. I was, kinda ok with it until "well, we knew it was going to end someday" wait,what? as a friend he says he'll stay in contact via the net.

in head canon those words were never said..nope, nope. he never said that. what he said was, "we knew that I would get worse and that you would out live me, my body cannot be there for you, but you'll always have my heart." that is what he said...

[utaker1988]

mythlover20 wrote...


Also, and the real point of this post, I'm working on the introduction of the introduction to the Thane Fanbook, and I have an idea for it, so could you please let me know what your/your Shepard's expectations about Thane before his RM and then their/your reaction to him during his RM? I've got mine, but I was wondering how similiar our experiences were. I may be able to use it and write something that we can all relate to.

Love your 3 Thane's  

Ok, I am a real wise azz during my games especially with my running commentary.  This is Cameron, I ran her first.

Before:  Oh good three more dossiers.  How many flippin people do I need on my ship?  Oh look an assassin!!!  I love assassins, let's get that one first.  Go to see Liara (rolled eyes).  Goes to see Seyrena...I really don't like this asari, can I shoot her?  No, pity.  Nassana?  Oh good I wonder if it's the same one from ME.  I killed her sister, heh heh, wanted to kill her too.  Off to the Dantius Towers.  

During:  Body falls at my feet...well, look at that Cameron, you really do have men falling all over you.  I'll be sure to thank this assassin later for dropping a dead body at my feet.  Jerk.  Saves the hiding Salarians.  WTF?  Oh this is going to be the typical "assassin with a heart of gold" crap isn't it?  He better be badazz, I don't like wimpy assassins.  A wise mouth merc, out the window you go, jerk.  Next time tell me what I need to know.  More Salarians, wonderful, here we go...RI, please don't let this assassin be a total puss.  I fight my away across the bridge which was just a pain so I swore, this better be worth it.  He better be worth it.

Nassana's Office:  Oh it is her.  Yes, I hope she dies.  I'm not going to stop him.  Let's dick with her some, heh heh.  Then the most amazing thing ever.  This man comes from the vents and kills everyone.  OMG...my mouth hung open.  I was in awe.  Holy Sh*t!!!  I NEED this on my ship.  I WANT this on my squad.  My heart skipped a beat, butterflies in my stomach, my breath was taken, I think I just fell in love or a deep lust.  Then he starts to pray over her.    Oh no, a religious freak.  Still the entrance was amazing, I can over look that and maybe there is a good reason for this.  Please let there be a good reason for this.  I pick the renegade option.  Heck, Cameron's still a douche at this point.  Then he opens his mouth to speak, squeeeeeee, fangirl mode kicks in.  Oh look at that chest, those legs, his mouth...OMG...I am going to faint dead away.  

I hear this, "I was curious to see how far you'd go to find me.  Well, here I am."  Oh yes, there you are.  I want to wrap my legs around your waist and lick your face.  Ok, snap back, I need to finish this recruitment and get him on my ship.  Then something amazing happens, I go with the paragon choice in the convo.    I stop for a moment when I hear, "I'm dying."  Wait?  What?  NOOOOOOOOOOO...... Why BioWare why?  In these few moments you gave me the single greatest thing I've ever laid my eyes on and he's dying?    Well, I'll just forget that for now.  They won't kill him off right at this moment, he's supposed to be in my squad.  Ok, I'll just ignore that....oh look, he's so beautiful and those eyes I want to swim in them.  I want to....will you pay attention?  Get him on the ship already.  Paragon choices for the rest of the convo.  I am now flabbergasted and confused.  What just happened?  Why is my Cameron all of a sudden going Paragon?  This one person and she melted.  I melted.

I'll keep going.  He's on the ship and Jacob is acting like a dick.  Mind you, I already find Jacob a complete tool.  It was at this point that I decided he was going to pay for being a complete douche to the new object of my affection.  I don't walk but run to where Thane is on the ship.  It will be a habit now.  LIfe Support, great.  Is this a joke?  Is this some jab at that fact that he's dying.  BioWare, I swear you are cruel.  First convo, phew, relieved he's got awhile left in him.  Good thing, I plan to make full use of him.  I get the response after "You don't act like a dying man."  Oh touche!  We have a sarcastic one here.  He's not going to let Cameron walk all over him.  She has an equal.  Yep, we are in love (me and Shep).    There will be no other person for my Shep except that man sitting in that room.  It was set in stone and I held to it, none of my other gazillion Sheps ever went in another direction, not even for a different story or different dialogues.  I had no need for curiousity, everything that mattered was sitting in Life Support.

This is why I have no Garrus or Jacob romances, why I didn't just chose Kaidan in ME3, my heart was taken.  Having the "better" choice for an achievement or a sex scene, did not matter.  How could I?  Even for curiousity?  I went into new games saying, "lets just try it, variety ya know."  I couldn't do it.  My mind was telling me "try it" but that darn Drell, as soon as I laid eyes on him, my heart overrode my mind.  I couldn't stay out of that room and Thane couldn't stay out of my heart.

[Little Vixen]

For the Thane-mancers...........my hubby made this for me, but I think we could all use it.

[utaker1988]

Little Vixen wrote...

For the Thane-mancers...........my hubby made this for me, but I think we could all use it.

I picked up tissues right before I headed to the midnight release of ME3.  Good thing, I was going through them like crazy.  I was emotionally spent.  First Mordin, that rocked me harder than I thought it would.  Then Thane and I was a mess.  I tried to recover but I was emotionally spent at that point (and lack of sleep).  I saw Legion's coming and thought I was so worn that I could not feel anymore but I did.  I cried again and I'm thinking, "Over a Geth!"  That led to the reminder that Thane was gone and he was never coming back.  I curled up in a ball and started wailing again.  I put my Shep in Life Support and really fell apart.  "Why?  Thane?  Why?  Why are you gone?  Where are you?  I need you now more than ever.  Where are your comforting words?  Your voice?  Anything.  You are gone, I am alone and my heart is broken.  It is shattered into so many pieces it cannot be repaired.  When you died, I died.  Please come back.  I miss you so much, more than you can possibly imagine.  Please come back.  I cannot do this without you. You said you'd be there to walk beside me and now you are gone and you are never coming back.  Please God make the hurt stop."  Those words maybe not in that exact order but I was a complete and utter mess.  It was not bittersweet, it was painful and it hurt deeply.  I NEVER want to feel that again.  Life tells me I will but it's not something I want.

Then that last nightmare, his voice.  I lost it again.  Oh BW, you are cruel. The flashbacks, I lost it then again too...Liara?  Really?  C'mon, not Thane.  Not even that?  I heard Harbinger at that point, "This hurts you."  Yes it does, it really, really does.  You bunch of sadistic sob's.  Well, here it goes, the end of my Shep, "Here I come Thane, I'm coming home."  Tears falling down my face.  Yuck, no, this game is so painful there are a million other unpleasant things I'd rather do than play this again as it stands now.

I am now crying, I just relived the single greatest heartache a game, book, movie has ever given me.  I cry at the end of the Notebook but that is kinda happy and sad.  Great, I might sink into depression again just thinking about how painful it was.

[Moira-chan]

Little Vixen wrote...

For the Thane-mancers...........my hubby made this for me, but I think we could all use it.

hahaha, how cute xD but necessary. have to meet thane today again...*heart break* thane, what happened to you? T_T

[Little Vixen]

utaker1988 wrote...

Little Vixen wrote...

For the Thane-mancers...........my hubby made this for me, but I think we could all use it.

I picked up tissues right before I headed to the midnight release of ME3.  Good thing, I was going through them like crazy.  I was emotionally spent.  First Mordin, that rocked me harder than I thought it would.  Then Thane and I was a mess.  I tried to recover but I was emotionally spent at that point (and lack of sleep).  I saw Legion's coming and thought I was so worn that I could not feel anymore but I did.  I cried again and I'm thinking, "Over a Geth!"  That led to the reminder that Thane was gone and he was never coming back.  I curled up in a ball and started wailing again.  I put my Shep in Life Support and really fell apart.  "Why?  Thane?  Why?  Why are you gone?  Where are you?  I need you now more than ever.  Where are your comforting words?  Your voice?  Anything.  You are gone, I am alone and my heart is broken.  It is shattered into so many pieces it cannot be repaired.  When you died, I died.  Please come back.  I miss you so much, more than you can possibly imagine.  Please come back.  I cannot do this without you. You said you'd be there to walk beside me and now you are gone and you are never coming back.  Please God make the hurt stop."  Those words maybe not in that exact order but I was a complete and utter mess.  It was not bittersweet, it was painful and it hurt deeply.  I NEVER want to feel that again.  Life tells me I will but it's not something I want.

Then that last nightmare, his voice.  I lost it again.  Oh BW, you are cruel. The flashbacks, I lost it then again too...Liara?  Really?  C'mon, not Thane.  Not even that?  I heard Harbinger at that point, "This hurts you."  Yes it does, it really, really does.  You bunch of sadistic sob's.  Well, here it goes, the end of my Shep, "Here I come Thane, I'm coming home."  Tears falling down my face.  Yuck, no, this game is so painful there are a million other unpleasant things I'd rather do than play this again as it stands now.

I am now crying, I just relived the single greatest heartache a game, book, movie has ever given me.  I cry at the end of the Notebook but that is kinda happy and sad.  Great, I might sink into depression again just thinking about how painful it was.

**Hugs!*** I wish I could pass you one of my soft Thane tissues.

I have never cried so hard over any character either....movie, book, or game. My poor hubby had to hold my hand and dab my tears as I cried uncontrollably after the "event" happened.

I agree Mordin was hard to deal with and I cried over him, too, but not like this. At least Mordin did something he believed strongly in and his sacrifice was remembered. Wrex was even going to name his first born after Mordin.

Thane just died and no one remembered. Not even Shepard. It isn't a good kind of sadness. I am simply left hollow. That is how the game leaves me feeling. I can't play the story mode anymore either. I go to multiplayer, name my drells "Thane Krios" and let him live for me and fight for justice in the universe.

[Emeraldfern]

Aand I finally finished my Thane/Shepard picture for the LIA project! Woot!



Cookies to whomever guesses where they are! (A clue, it's an arid place of nostalgia)


The idea of this painting was inspired by this old song in Swedish (English translation below):



Det vackraste jag vet är att se dig när du sover.
Här råder stilla frid, och jag glömmer både rum & tid.
Du ligger här brevid, och jag känner hur du andas.
Att älskas utav dig, är det vackraste för mig.

Så sagolikt det är, att se morgondimman lätta.
När mörkret sakta flyr, och att se hur dagen åter gryr,
en kylig morgon bris, sakta sveper genom rummet.
Jag kryper tätt intill lycklig för att du finns till.

Stunder av stillhet, ett ögonblick av ro ibland,
stunder av lycka att bara ha varann.
Det är en rikedom att få älska &
att älskas vår kärlek varsamhet, är det vackraste jag vet.

Det vackraste som finns är att vara någon nära,
när månen lyser klart över skog och mark så underbart.
Jag ligger här brevid och jag känner hur du andas
att älskas utav dig är det vackraste för mig,

stunder av stillhet ett ögonblick av ro ibland
stunder av lycka, att bara ha varann.
Det är en rikedom att få älska &
att älskas, vår kärleks sårbarhet är det vackraste jag vet.

Du ligger här brevid och jag känner hur du andas,
att älskas utav dig är det vackraste för mig.

------------------------------------------------

The greatest beauty I know is to see you when you sleep.
Here is serenity, and I forget both space and time.
You are lying right here beside me and I feel you breathe.
To be loved by you, is the greatest beauty for me.

How ethereal it is, to see the morning fog lift
When darkness slowly fades, and seeing the day dawn,
a cool mornig breeze, slowly sweeps through the room.
I come closer, happy that you exist.

Times of peace, moments of serenity sometimes,
times of happiness to just have eachother.
It is a treasure to love and be loved,
our love's tenderness, is the greatest beauty I know.

The greatest beauty I know is to be someone close,
when the moon shines bright upon wood and land so wonderful.
I lay next to you and I feel you breathe,
To be loved by you, is the greatest beauty for me.

Times of peace, moments of serenity sometimes,
times of happiness to just have eachother.
It is a treasure to love and be loved,
our love's vurnebility, is the greatest beauty I know.

You are lying right here beside me and I feel you breathe.
To be loved by you, is the greatest beauty for me.

@Visii
If you read this post, then let me just say that I know that there is a flood of Thane art for the tribute, but I will try to make art for the other L.I.'s as well.
Hopefully RL won't eat up too much of my time. Also I'll write my letters when the other art is done

Modifié par Emeraldfern, 19 avril 2012 - 07:16 .

[Moira-chan]

Emeraldfern wrote...

Aand I finally finished my Thane/Shepard picture for the LIA project! Woot!



Cookies to whomever guesses where they are! (A clue, it's an arid place of nostalgia)


The idea of this painting was inspired by this old song in Swedish (English translation below):



Det vackraste jag vet är att se dig när du sover.
Här råder stilla frid, och jag glömmer både rum & tid.
Du ligger här brevid, och jag känner hur du andas.
Att älskas utav dig, är det vackraste för mig.

Så sagolikt det är, att se morgondimman lätta.
När mörkret sakta flyr, och att se hur dagen åter gryr,
en kylig morgon bris, sakta sveper genom rummet.
Jag kryper tätt intill lycklig för att du finns till.

Stunder av stillhet, ett ögonblick av ro ibland,
stunder av lycka att bara ha varann.
Det är en rikedom att få älska &
att älskas vår kärlek varsamhet, är det vackraste jag vet.

Det vackraste som finns är att vara någon nära,
när månen lyser klart över skog och mark så underbart.
Jag ligger här brevid och jag känner hur du andas
att älskas utav dig är det vackraste för mig,

stunder av stillhet ett ögonblick av ro ibland
stunder av lycka, att bara ha varann.
Det är en rikedom att få älska &
att älskas, vår kärleks sårbarhet är det vackraste jag vet.

Du ligger här brevid och jag känner hur du andas,
att älskas utav dig är det vackraste för mig.

------------------------------------------------

The greatest beauty I know is to see you when you sleep.
Here is serenity, and I forget both space and time.
You are lying right here beside me and I feel you breathe.
To be loved by you, is the greatest beauty for me.

How ethereal it is, to see the morning fog lift
When darkness slowly fades, and seeing the day dawn,
a cool mornig breeze, slowly sweeps through the room.
I come closer, happy that you exist.

Times of peace, moments of serenity sometimes,
times of happiness to just have eachother.
It is a treasure to love and be loved,
our love's tenderness, is the greatest beauty I know.

The greatest beauty I know is to be someone close,
when the moon shines bright upon wood and land so wonderful.
I lye next to you and I feel you breathe,
To be loved by you, is the greatest beauty for me.

Times of peace, moments of serenity sometimes,
times of happiness to just have eachother.
It is a treasure to love and be loved,
our love's vurnebility, is the greatest beauty I know.

You are lying right here beside me and I feel you breathe.
To be loved by you, is the greatest beauty for me.

@Visii
If you read this post, then let me just say that I know that there is a flood of Thane art for the tribute, but I will try to make art for the other L.I.'s as well.
Hopefully RL won't eat up too much of my time. Also I'll write my letters when the other art is done

that is just awesome <3<3<3

[utaker1988]

Emeraldfern wrote...

Aand I finally finished my Thane/Shepard picture for the LIA project! Woot!



Cookies to whomever guesses where they are! (A clue, it's an arid place of nostalgia)


The idea of this painting was inspired by this old song in Swedish (English translation below):



Det vackraste jag vet är att se dig när du sover.
Här råder stilla frid, och jag glömmer både rum & tid.
Du ligger här brevid, och jag känner hur du andas.
Att älskas utav dig, är det vackraste för mig.

Så sagolikt det är, att se morgondimman lätta.
När mörkret sakta flyr, och att se hur dagen åter gryr,
en kylig morgon bris, sakta sveper genom rummet.
Jag kryper tätt intill lycklig för att du finns till.

Stunder av stillhet, ett ögonblick av ro ibland,
stunder av lycka att bara ha varann.
Det är en rikedom att få älska &
att älskas vår kärlek varsamhet, är det vackraste jag vet.

Det vackraste som finns är att vara någon nära,
när månen lyser klart över skog och mark så underbart.
Jag ligger här brevid och jag känner hur du andas
att älskas utav dig är det vackraste för mig,

stunder av stillhet ett ögonblick av ro ibland
stunder av lycka, att bara ha varann.
Det är en rikedom att få älska &
att älskas, vår kärleks sårbarhet är det vackraste jag vet.

Du ligger här brevid och jag känner hur du andas,
att älskas utav dig är det vackraste för mig.

------------------------------------------------

The greatest beauty I know is to see you when you sleep.
Here is serenity, and I forget both space and time.
You are lying right here beside me and I feel you breathe.
To be loved by you, is the greatest beauty for me.

How ethereal it is, to see the morning fog lift
When darkness slowly fades, and seeing the day dawn,
a cool mornig breeze, slowly sweeps through the room.
I come closer, happy that you exist.

Times of peace, moments of serenity sometimes,
times of happiness to just have eachother.
It is a treasure to love and be loved,
our love's tenderness, is the greatest beauty I know.

The greatest beauty I know is to be someone close,
when the moon shines bright upon wood and land so wonderful.
I lay next to you and I feel you breathe,
To be loved by you, is the greatest beauty for me.

Times of peace, moments of serenity sometimes,
times of happiness to just have eachother.
It is a treasure to love and be loved,
our love's vurnebility, is the greatest beauty I know.

You are lying right here beside me and I feel you breathe.
To be loved by you, is the greatest beauty for me.

@Visii
If you read this post, then let me just say that I know that there is a flood of Thane art for the tribute, but I will try to make art for the other L.I.'s as well.
Hopefully RL won't eat up too much of my time. Also I'll write my letters when the other art is done

Oh that is just beautiful, my many feels are overwhelmed.   

[Avalie-2]

Thanks for the welcome utaker .

In ME2 it was usually Garrus and Thane that I brought with me, but as I expanded classes it switched to Thane and Jack.
Wish Thane was a squadie in ME3, too :/; but I switched out characters when I played found I liked Garrus and James best..but took Garrus and Liara to rescue the krogan females and the dialogue (if you did LOTSB in ME2) was pretty funny. Other than that she sat on the Normandy unless I was forced to take her with me.

After finishing my ME3 playthrough I had no interest in playing again..but the MP is pretty good, that's the only reason it's not collecting dust on a shelf.

[Hadeedak]

Yay, the apartment!

I was sad that never came back. ESPECIALLY for the Thanemancers. But... Esperanza the platonic besties Shepard would have totally given the place to a live Thane and Kolyat, or at least let them vacation there!

[utaker1988]

Javik is Still a Troll

Javik: Drell, you said last time you had a son?
Thane: Javik, I am not having this conversation with you.
Javik: I am merely curious. You said "had" is that to mean you have one and were speaking incorrectly or he is dead.
Thane: He is still alive.
Javik: Does he know you are responsible for his mother's death? Was it his mother?
Thane: What kind of question is that? Yes he knows about my accountability in his mother's death.
Javik: They did not kill him too? Does he talk to you?
Thane: No they did not kill him and yes he talks to me.
Javik: Why was he spared? I would have spared no one. I don't see why he'd talk to you. I would not if you got my mother killed.
Thane: Javik, do you get pleasure out of asking me such questions?
Javik: No, I get no pleasure in your company at all.
Thane: Then why do you talk to me?
Javik: Drell, the Commander here likes to bring us everywhere, ask her why.
Thane: Why should I ask her why you bother to talk to me? That makes no sense.
Javik: Neither does your race but I like to know about those who fight alongside me especially the primitive ones.
Thane: I am not primitive. I am done with this discussion.
Javik: You are primitive. You and your race cannot survive without the Hanar. You allow yourselves to be slaves to a bunch of prothean worshipping jellyfish.
Thane: Does that bother you? The Hanar worshipping you?
Javik: I think it is odd but understandable. The Protheans were the apex of evolution, we were the dominant species in our cycle.
Thane: Yet you got wiped out by the reapers like everyone else. How does that make you feel? How does knowing that those you consider lesser than you might actually beat them?
Javik: Drell, how does it feel that even after 50,000 years you are still insignificant? Slaves to jellyfish?
Hope: Enough both of you. This is not going to end well. Javik, leave Thane alone. Thane, try not to entertain his trolling. You two are as bad as children.
Thane: Yes Siha, I will try to ignore him. My apologies.
Javik: No wonder your race was easily enslaved, you bent over quite quickly for the Commander.
Hope: Javik.....

[Eliza]

Verly wrote...

ugh, Penny caught up with Thane in the hospital...it really *is* that bad. I was, kinda ok with it until "well, we knew it was going to end someday" wait,what? as a friend he says he'll stay in contact via the net.

in head canon those words were never said..nope, nope. he never said that. what he said was, "we knew that I would get worse and that you would out live me, my body cannot be there for you, but you'll always have my heart." that is what he said...

My first impression was that the story writers let Thane say this and the sentence following this remark ("enjoy the rest of your life") so that Shepard can start or continue a romance with Kaidan or someone else without feeling guilty. But maybe I am wrong.

Another thing that came to my mind is this: Does or will have Kolyat have the Kepral's?
haben Sie [have]

[utaker1988]

Arcian wrote...

Okay, weird question here, but do you guys think Thane's disease adds to his character or is it something he could do without and still be amazing? Because honestly, I think the core of Thane's character has more to do with regret about his family (especially Kolyat) and his profession than it does with him trying to deal with disease.

Truthfully, him having Kepral's Syndrome just felt like a way for the BW writers to flesh out the biology of the drell species, and honestly, that's not how proper writing works in my opinion and it's something that could have been covered in the codex rather than forcing a character to die for cheap drama (as was painfully evident in ME3).

Reason I'm asking is because I'm doing a total rewrite of the Mass Effect franchise where I... well, "fix" my and others perceived problems with the franchise. I'm not ready to throw out his Kepral's Syndrome completely just yet, but I am seriously considering extending the incubation period so that the disease kicks in much, much slower, allowing femsheps to have at least a few happy years with him before it starts to kill him. BUT, if the disease doesn't really add anything to his character, I'm not sure why I should keep it.

So I had hopes you guys could give me your opinions on the matter so it might help me make the right decision.

It adds nothing, IMO, he could do without it and still be amazing.  His life as a whole would keep interested and wanting to know more.  His family and when I say his family I mean his mother, father, relatives, and of course Kolyat and Irikah is something I'd like to have heard about.  More about his philosophies, beliefs, race, biology, etc.  Of course his career and training are of interest, so I don't need an illness to find him fascinating or worthy of attention.  I think throw in the Kepral's was not necessary and was just in there for very cheap drama.  Don't really need cheap drama in a game that is going to eventually put you in a war with the reapers.

I started rewriting that god awful mess of ME3 not too long ago and I kept the illness in but I researched past ME lore, even the books, and found a way to fix it without coming up with anything new or contrived.  Even without that, giving him a transplant would work, just need a recently deceased drell that matches him.  Family member maybe?  Sounds sick but it could happen.  I know that one would immediately say, "it was more than just his lungs that were infected by then."  So a living donor would be pretty much pointless unless all you were looking for is an extention and not many would probably do it considering he needs more than lungs at this point.  His best bet would be a non living donor that way you can get all the diseased organs needed for a recovery.  Sounds sick but based on what I've read, the second option has a better chance of keeping him alive longer.  I'm going to go with in the ME universe he can survive such a mass transplant because the technology available to sustain him while he heals is more advanced.

[wildannie]

Arcian wrote...

Okay, weird question here, but do you guys think Thane's disease adds to his character or is it something he could do without and still be amazing? Because honestly, I think the core of Thane's character has more to do with regret about his family (especially Kolyat) and his profession than it does with him trying to deal with disease.

Truthfully, him having Kepral's Syndrome just felt like a way for the BW writers to flesh out the biology of the drell species, and honestly, that's not how proper writing works in my opinion and it's something that could have been covered in the codex rather than forcing a character to die for cheap drama (as was painfully evident in ME3).

Reason I'm asking is because I'm doing a total rewrite of the Mass Effect franchise where I... well, "fix" my and others perceived problems with the franchise. I'm not ready to throw out his Kepral's Syndrome completely just yet, but I am seriously considering extending the incubation period so that the disease kicks in much, much slower, allowing femsheps to have at least a few happy years with him before it starts to kill him. BUT, if the disease doesn't really add anything to his character, I'm not sure why I should keep it.

So I had hopes you guys could give me your opinions on the matter so it might help me make the right decision.

It certainly didn't add to the appeal of his character to me, it was always a downer and seemed to be overkill on the tragedy... as if being recruited into assasin training at the age of six, and being the cause of the death of the one  he loved and then losing his son through his own inability to cope with her death was not enough... he has to be terminally ill too? WTF

I never liked it,now I know what they did with it I absolutely hate it and it makes me so angry I will not play ME3 again unless its fixed (so I guess I won't be playing ME3 again ... and quite possibly ME and ME2 also).  I will also not be buying any ME products/games etc.  Although they let a large portion of their fans down in so many ways... what they really did was let themselves down.

[Eliza]

Same opinion here - the disease adds nothing to Thane's character. There are so many other things that make Thane's character deep and unique. So Kepral's is totally unnecessary.
Why didn't they give the Kepral's to Jacob or Miranda? Would have made them much more interessting characters.

By the way: Does Feron also have the Kepral syndrome - or poor Kolyat and did Irikah have it, too?

[RShara]

I agree, the disease is really irrelevant to his character. It's just there, like a mole that you can't get rid of.

[RShara]

http://social.biowar.../index/11550249
Like daisies!

[Cyansomnia]

The sadness in this thread is making me cry. I don't wanna cry today.

Let's have some laughs instead:

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