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[Saodade]

utaker1988 wrote...

I did maroon Joker with Javik. Hope truly needs to get the last troll in. Being true to form, she ignored Liara on Earth. Sorry, Hope doesn't want your gift or you mind melding with her. Back off...I say, back off. She didn't even invite her up to her cabin for the time capsule thing either. The only one she willingly invited up there was James. She's a pig, she just wanted too look, she knows she can't touch.

That would have been my ideal  ending: shepard Thane  Joker Garrus  Jaavik Grunt (I would never abandon my baby Krogan alone) Tali Katsumi Bailey  a galarian and Samara. And maybe Aethytha.. ah no   forget it  she would bring Liara. or  only if Liara don't hit on me or I would ask Samara to jail  her in a deep cave into a  blue sphere...

[Hisilome]

utaker1988 wrote...

Cosmochyck wrote...

Just wanted to show you guys what Xenofire made me for my birthday!  It's so fabulous!

Happy Birthday!!!  Now, head into Life Support for your spankings!   

Awww,happy birthday, my dear!!!!!

[coldwetn0se]

Alrighty! I just had an "ahha" moment.......something that has been buzzing in my brain since I first played the demo, but I am unsure I ever properly expressed. This is regarding being back with the Alliance in me3.

Most of us have similar view points on how me3 starts out (the whole "turned ourselves in to the Alliance/have six months house arrest" crappola), but I kept trying to figure out why I couldn't get past it. I was able to get past the whole "died, strangled, crisped, smashed" then "resurrected" *zoink!* in ME2, so why can't I get past the way they set up me3?

I have been playing ME1 again, on and off, since me3 came out. I recently started a new play through, and I think I may know now what my hangup is........Even though it feels very "military" on the Normandy (especially in the beginning part of the game), over time that changes for me. By the time I have done Feros, and started on Noveria (particularly Noveria), I really feel like a Spectre, NOT an Alliance soldier. Yes, yes, that is simply MY take on how I am role playing it, but you have to admit; some of the things you do to move the story along, the game really tries to highlight your Spectre status. And you end up often doing a number of things that are definately outside the realm of the Alliance (and your station and rank).

So moving on, we end up in ME2, and we are no longer Alliance. Even if you role play being a proud soldier in your earlier years, the fact remains that the Alliance isn't with you. Since I've never played as a "Cerberus" cheerleader, I always ended up feeling more like a rogue element. Not necessarily Renegade (though I do play on that a bit depending on the Shepard), but freelance. Trying to "get things done".

What's the conclusion? For me, I have spent at least half of one game feeling less like an Alliance soldier (instead a Spectre), and one game trying to do a job while using the only tools I have at my disposal (Cerberus). Again, NOT with the Alliance. Yet, me3 we are required to play (for the most part) as an Alliance soldier. But it doesn't feel right. Course it didn't help that YET AGAIN, the Alliance didn't wish to believe me/support me in dealing with the Reapers, until it was too late. Bleh! I dunno, maybe I didn't see enough of the game to fairly say any of this, but from what I did play, and the way it looks on some of the things I have looked up on YouTube.......it's just how I perceive it.

Not terribly Thane related, but Thane's tragic writing in me3 was not the only problem I had with this game. Though, if they had done right by him, I probably would have been able to handwave just about anything.....just like I did with my messiah reawakening in ME2. *wave*




<.......and, ridges>

[blueshepard]

coldwetn0se wrote...

Alrighty! I just had an "ahha" moment.......something that has been buzzing in my brain since I first played the demo, but I am unsure I ever properly expressed. This is regarding being back with the Alliance in me3.

Most of us have similar view points on how me3 starts out (the whole "turned ourselves in to the Alliance/have six months house arrest" crappola), but I kept trying to figure out why I couldn't get past it. I was able to get past the whole "died, strangled, crisped, smashed" then "resurrected" *zoink!* in ME2, so why can't I get past the way they set up me3?

I have been playing ME1 again, on and off, since me3 came out. I recently started a new play through, and I think I may know now what my hangup is........Even though it feels very "military" on the Normandy (especially in the beginning part of the game), over time that changes for me. By the time I have done Feros, and started on Noveria (particularly Noveria), I really feel like a Spectre, NOT an Alliance soldier. Yes, yes, that is simply MY take on how I am role playing it, but you have to admit; some of the things you do to move the story along, the game really tries to highlight your Spectre status. And you end up often doing a number of things that are definately outside the realm of the Alliance (and your station and rank).

So moving on, we end up in ME2, and we are no longer Alliance. Even if you role play being a proud soldier in your earlier years, the fact remains that the Alliance isn't with you. Since I've never played as a "Cerberus" cheerleader, I always ended up feeling more like a rogue element. Not necessarily Renegade (though I do play on that a bit depending on the Shepard), but freelance. Trying to "get things done".

What's the conclusion? For me, I have spent at least half of one game feeling less like an Alliance soldier (instead a Spectre), and one game trying to do a job while using the only tools I have at my disposal (Cerberus). Again, NOT with the Alliance. Yet, me3 we are required to play (for the most part) as an Alliance soldier. But it doesn't feel right. Course it didn't help that YET AGAIN, the Alliance didn't wish to believe me/support me in dealing with the Reapers, until it was too late. Bleh! I dunno, maybe I didn't see enough of the game to fairly say any of this, but from what I did play, and the way it looks on some of the things I have looked up on YouTube.......it's just how I perceive it.

Not terribly Thane related, but Thane's tragic writing in me3 was not the only problem I had with this game. Though, if they had done right by him, I probably would have been able to handwave just about anything.....just like I did with my messiah reawakening in ME2. *wave*




<.......and, ridges>

Yeah that's wuite a point here. I started a new ME1 game yesterday and I really felt it - that pride and great moment the music turns in and the camera is running and there you are - hell of a soldier - proud member of the alliance and this "hero" at all. I love the talks with Nilhus in the beginning, the recruitment of this whole spectre thing - and I totally agree, there was this point in the game where Blue became this spectre. In fact I think she wasn't loyal to the alliance anymore, but to Anderson. He is the connection (perhaps Hackett too) not more. She was this spectre with her very own loyal crew - and all of them were loyal because of her spectre status or the person she was. Wrex/Garrus or Tali with the Alliance? No way for me. She wouldn't be that person without this status.

This Verberus thing in part two is even more drastic I think. I am really absolutely no Cerberus cheerleader (hell Jack will always be my only Manshep love - since this woman is just my feeling about Cerberus. I LOVE HER) but for me, like you said Coldi, you need to fell "connected" in some point of the game with them, even if you break up in the end. There is no need to like the Illusive Man at all, but at least they are the ones who brought you back and gave you your ship and crew back and yeah - they are the reason we get to knoe Thane Again I am quite sure she wouldn't be able to recruit all these guys if she would have been with the alliance. This Cerberus thing gave her a lot of space in her actions and that what she needed. Alliance and recruiting a Savage, an Assassin and a Mercenary? In my opinion: no way at all.

There is only one scene in the beginning which really got me: the scene where she gets her dogtag back and Anderson told her that she is reinstatet. Here my headcanon turns in: she is doing it for Anderson again - not the Alliance. Still for me she didn't turn herself in 6 months ago. She stayed with Thane/the ME2 Crew tried to convince people etc. But she did this not as part of any organisation but as a spectre. This is in fact the only thing she wants to call herself. I loved that status at all

The other thing is: she is fighting for all the races not only for humanity anymore. Her best friend is a Turian and her love is a Drell. I loved Palaven, Thessia, Tuchanka and all the other plantes. So hell spectre fits absolutely for her. That's the only really perfect Status.

and: yeah of course: ridges <3

[JECW]

coldwetn0se wrote...

Alrighty! I just had an "ahha" moment.......something that has been buzzing in my brain since I first played the demo, but I am unsure I ever properly expressed. This is regarding being back with the Alliance in me3.

Most of us have similar view points on how me3 starts out (the whole "turned ourselves in to the Alliance/have six months house arrest" crappola), but I kept trying to figure out why I couldn't get past it. I was able to get past the whole "died, strangled, crisped, smashed" then "resurrected" *zoink!* in ME2, so why can't I get past the way they set up me3?

I have been playing ME1 again, on and off, since me3 came out. I recently started a new play through, and I think I may know now what my hangup is........Even though it feels very "military" on the Normandy (especially in the beginning part of the game), over time that changes for me. By the time I have done Feros, and started on Noveria (particularly Noveria), I really feel like a Spectre, NOT an Alliance soldier. Yes, yes, that is simply MY take on how I am role playing it, but you have to admit; some of the things you do to move the story along, the game really tries to highlight your Spectre status. And you end up often doing a number of things that are definately outside the realm of the Alliance (and your station and rank).

So moving on, we end up in ME2, and we are no longer Alliance. Even if you role play being a proud soldier in your earlier years, the fact remains that the Alliance isn't with you. Since I've never played as a "Cerberus" cheerleader, I always ended up feeling more like a rogue element. Not necessarily Renegade (though I do play on that a bit depending on the Shepard), but freelance. Trying to "get things done".

What's the conclusion? For me, I have spent at least half of one game feeling less like an Alliance soldier (instead a Spectre), and one game trying to do a job while using the only tools I have at my disposal (Cerberus). Again, NOT with the Alliance. Yet, me3 we are required to play (for the most part) as an Alliance soldier. But it doesn't feel right. Course it didn't help that YET AGAIN, the Alliance didn't wish to believe me/support me in dealing with the Reapers, until it was too late. Bleh! I dunno, maybe I didn't see enough of the game to fairly say any of this, but from what I did play, and the way it looks on some of the things I have looked up on YouTube.......it's just how I perceive it.

Not terribly Thane related, but Thane's tragic writing in me3 was not the only problem I had with this game. Though, if they had done right by him, I probably would have been able to handwave just about anything.....just like I did with my messiah reawakening in ME2. *wave*




<.......and, ridges>

It makes perfect sense.
It does feel a bit strange.
Most of ME1 focuses on you being the first human spectre. Even though you are technically still with the Alliance it never really comes up after you get your spectre status. You pretty much are just a spectre. Which was fine with me. In ME2 the Alliance has turned it's back on you, so you end up working with Cerberus to stop the collectors. Again there is no focus on the Alliance at all really. They are not put in the best light either in ME2 either. Then you get to ME3 and you are an Alliance soldier again and that's it.

What bothered me was how the game has everyone so happy to be back with the Alliance. I found it a bit annoying. Just foget that they turned their backs on you, and didn't believe you. You still are suppose to be happy to be back with them. The game seems to keep reminding you that you are back with them and this is what you have always wanted. Jack tells you that. Ken and Gabby go from loosing respect to being happy to be back in uniform. It seems to be shoved down our throats. At least that's how it felt to me.


It also doesn't help that they kept you away from Thane for six month.

Modifié par JECW, 16 mai 2012 - 06:15 .

[coldwetn0se]

@yamainu and JECW - It's good to know that my Wheaties starved brain didn't wander to far into left field....HA!

@yamainu - exactly, my Sheps have always been fighting for those they love. And those they love represent Drell, Turian, Asari, Salarian, Quarian, Geth......and Human, of course. I need the personal connections (just as Mordin needed his favorite nephew) to fight, and in the end it isn't about a branch of Human Military it's about all those you care about and what they represent. You and me sister......thinking alike.

@JECW - Exactly. The "happy" aspect was one I saw as well (or it was how I perceived it), and again, something glaring that doesn't fit with the way I role played my Sheps. Not to mention what I posted in my previous post.....no need to repeat.....hehe!

I watched Jack's me3 romance on YouTube today, and you are right Dani; she DOES go out of her way to talk to M!Shep about being a Alliance boyscout, and him wanting to be a soldier. I get that it was a bit of rib poking on Jack's part, but I still think it is just another way to try and reinforce the whole "Alliance Gungho" path.

[utaker1988]

I made people pay for keeping Shep away from Thane. At least with Cameron. She has anger issues and she doesn't take to being tooled with. Block Thane's messages? Ok, I'm going to blame whoever I feel should have known better. They all got theirs in the end. I can see them not trusting messages from Miranda or Jacob. They worked for Cerberus and well, they are human. Knowing Cerberus's beliefs on aliens, logic would tell one that a drell is NOT working for Cerberus.

So, Cameron is mad. First she hates Hackett, this is his fault and since he has no balls and refused to foot some of the blame for this, he will get his. Anderson acted like Shep's BFF at times, well you could have let Thane get his messages through. You did not. You will get yours too. Kaidan, you acted like a jerk on Horizon and Mars. Kept on me about Cerberus even after Vega told you I was under constant surveillance. Speaking of Vega, he was guarding my door. For how long? Ok, I am going to assume that you are one of the guards that blocked Thane's messages. You will get yours too. The game goes on and Cameron is just seething. All this wasted time, so very little time left and then comes KL.

Yeah, he will get his too. TIM too because he's the one bossing KL around. Thane dies and NOT one person mentions him. I know longer hold to the assumption that maybe some didn't know. Thanks to Kaidan and his blabbermouth in the hospital, he said everyone knew about Shep and Thane. So since everyone knows, you will all get yours for not even mentioning Thane. I told each of you I was sorry at some point about your losses. I'm sorry Liara you still feel bad about your mother. I'm sorry Tali about your father. I'm sorry Garrus about your team on Omega. That's right especially the three of you. You are the ones I am most disappointed with and Joker too. Just because he asked about him and EDI after Thane died. The only time any of them even say Thane's name is if you romanced Liara in ME and Thane in ME2, then she wants to know if you are still with him. Shame on you. Oh yeah, I'm not counting Joker's mention of his name because he's answering an incoming call from him at the time. Doesn't count.

So, Kaidan..shot on the Citadel. Done. KL bladed. Done. Liara with me to the beam and turned into ashes. Done. Anderson shot. Done. TIM gunshot. Done. Low EMS, Earth Vaporized and since I saw no Earth scene of the soldiers, I'm going to speculate that everyone on Earth is ash. Done. Normandy hatch opens and no one steps out. Joker. Done. I'm going to speculate that Hackett finally got his as well. Done.

Cameron made sure they all paid. At least in that play through, I know it was mean and spiteful. This was my first play through and I was just angry. I still am but I don't think I'll do that again.

[blueshepard]

coldwetn0se wrote...

@yamainu and JECW - It's good to know that my Wheaties starved brain didn't wander to far into left field....HA!

@yamainu - exactly, my Sheps have always been fighting for those they love. And those they love represent Drell, Turian, Asari, Salarian, Quarian, Geth......and Human, of course. I need the personal connections (just as Mordin needed his favorite nephew) to fight, and in the end it isn't about a branch of Human Military it's about all those you care about and what they represent. You and me sister......thinking alike.

@JECW - Exactly. The "happy" aspect was one I saw as well (or it was how I perceived it), and again, something glaring that doesn't fit with the way I role played my Sheps. Not to mention what I posted in my previous post.....no need to repeat.....hehe!

I watched Jack's me3 romance on YouTube today, and you are right Dani; she DOES go out of her way to talk to M!Shep about being a Alliance boyscout, and him wanting to be a soldier. I get that it was a bit of rib poking on Jack's part, but I still think it is just another way to try and reinforce the whole "Alliance Gungho" path.

Yeah sis - love ya and your thoughts at all <3 Well this whole Jack thing is for me a really biiiiiiiiiig biiiiiiiiiig nasty thing BW did to her at all. No comparison to Thane or Jacob though but yeah this isn't the Jack I remember. I loved this rebellious deep girl, broken apart and just telling the world: look how bad and nasty I am, so don't touch me. Just because she is afraid, because she got that much dissapontments in her life. She has the second deepest romance for me not far behind Thane, her character is really great and deep and yeah. There was only this one person where she was her real self at all - Shep. And suddenly she is that Alliance teacher joking around with the kids? I dunno ^^ I always thought: the way we were pushed into the arms of Liara or Kaidan, Maleshep was pushed into the arms of the Alliance by her. That's why I mentioned her in the Alliance Talk thing.

Could write sides about her but back to topic:

RIIIIIIIDGES

[JECW]

coldwetn0se wrote...

I watched Jack's me3 romance on YouTube today, and you are right Dani; she DOES go out of her way to talk to M!Shep about being a Alliance boyscout, and him wanting to be a soldier. I get that it was a bit of rib poking on Jack's part, but I still think it is just another way to try and reinforce the whole "Alliance Gungho" path.

I think you're right.
Jack tells shepard it was his/her life long dream to return to the Alliance. It wasn't my shepards dream at all.

I am no fan of Cerberus, but I thought it was silly to have them go from being pretty bad in ME1. Then not so bad in ME2 so you could work with them. Then back to being worse than the evil in ME3, but the Alliance is still the good guy. It doesn' t matter how the treated Shepard.
Also what happened to that big secret with Kasumi's grey box. It turned out to be nothing really. I was a little disappointed since they made it sound like it could bring down the Alliance.

[Emeraldfern]

@coldwetn0se and yamainu,

You guys echoed my mind on the Alliance/Spectre/Cerberus topic.

True my headcanon is 100% Paragon, and with a Spacer background + War Hero psych profile so on paper, it looks like she'd be the Alliance poster girl.

But the truth is, that trust she once had for the Alliance has slowly faded come ME3, infact the only ones she still trusts from the Alliance is Anderson, Hackett and her parents.

(I know Shep's dad isn't mentioned ingame, but I headcanon that he's alive)

She knows that the aforementioned people believes her regarding the Reapers and as such will provide aid once the Reapers arrive. Technically the same can be said about Kaidan, but after Horizon, her personal trust in him has diminished a bit.

The council is a bit of shaky ground trust-wise, but they re-instated her Spectre status come ME2. Which has me a bit baffled actually, since I don't recall the Council revoking her Spectre status again post-Arrival pre-ME3.

(I think they say in ME3 that they are in fact upholding her status)

So, why would a Spectre be incarcerated like that? Espicially if there is no conclusive evidence as to what happened in Arrival with the exceptance of Shepard's report?

And why the flying f**** would they block Thane's messages? He isn't officially with Cerberus for christsakes!
I can understand screening messages for Cerberus codes and whatnot, but really?
They couldn't see the difference between a Cerberus message and one from Thane? Are they that dense?

Bah, I can't wrap my head around it I guess....in fact all this illogical mumbo-jumbo that makes up ME3's story has me seriously considering re-writing ME3 in a heavily headcanoned fanfic.

(Despite me having zero experience writing actual fanfiction)

/Ah..well, returning to making spaces for the Thaneopoly weee!

Oh, and to stay on the topic of Thane: <ridges>

Modifié par Emeraldfern, 16 mai 2012 - 07:36 .

[coldwetn0se]

@utaker - I think my Cate (and my new girl in ME1; Chase) would get on great with Cam......Cate was the one I imported into me3, and if I would have been able to even get through the game, it would have ended (I'm betting) pretty much like Cam's run. But alas, I couldn't even just doom everyone.

So instead.....I deleted Cate out of me3; she's now a Pirate in her lovely boat (hey, lets face it; Jack was terribly smart when she suggested it to begin with...HA!). We all know where Ulee is (poor drunken sod), I haven't finished Mace (close; just a couple of side missions, the Reaper IFF and SM), but she is kind of my stupid Shep (love her, but she's dingy). She'll just stay naive. If Ulee is one side of the coin (based loosely on myself...in part), then Evan is that other side of the coin (personality wise; a bit like me *and Ulee*, but sober....HA!) She also looks the closest to me....or what I might look like if I was 15 years younger. Evan will probably be the Shep that I actually write my own conclusion for. Lastly is the new gal; Chase. She is my most renegade Shep yet, so we shall see what becomes of her.

One thing is for sure. None of them will probably ever spend any time in me3. If we have some luck, and actually get new (and GOOD) Thane content, then I might send them through. We will just have to wait and see.

[JECW]

The fact that Shepard didn't get any of Thane's messages is just stupid. What does the Alliance have to fear from him. Nothing.
The fact that Shepard isn't even pissed about that makes no sense either. She doesn't even ask questions about why she was kept away from everyone.
Just more bad writing from bioware.

Modifié par JECW, 16 mai 2012 - 07:41 .

[coldwetn0se]

@yamainu - I'm a huge Jack fan as well. She is one of my favorites, and I have my Pollux (yup, twin name again...HA) Shepard waiting to meet her. He is just finishing up ME1. I really need to stop trying to do so many run throughs at the same time...HA! I also have an Adept in ME1 (Remus) who hasn't even finished Eden Prime, who will be for Jack as well.

@Emeraldfern - Oooooo.....I will be there with bells on to read your version of me3, if you ever decide to write it!!! (bounces up and down in anticipation ) Bah!!! All the lack of questions answered, so that they didn't have to count the Thane romance, just grinds my gears even more. None of it made sense for the Sheps I molded and RP'ed over the first two games. *sigh*


<bringing an oldie but goodie back........zipper> ;D

[blueshepard]

I really should be working on the Fanbook at the moment - Sharlene will kill me xD - but I think I need this break xD

@Coldi: Yeah more Jack love I have only one playthrough until now with a Maleshep (yep the boring Default one, but I really like the look of him ) and he will for sure never see ME3. Need to do another Male run, need to finish Alice and have Lilith parked somwhere in the mid of part 1. So you see, same here xD But well yeah, since none of my Sheps will get imported in 3 (Blue cried enough for 1000 playthroughs) we only have to go through 2 games at all ^^

@Emerald: seriously considering re-writing ME3 in a heavily headcanoned fanfic.- YEEEEEEEES please! Or we just start a heavy new project: reprogramm ME3 xD That would be huge in fact xD But we definately need more fandom and headcanon And welcome to that "Anti-Alliance" Club xD

[Moira-chan]

yamainu1984 wrote...

I really should be working on the Fanbook at the moment - Sharlene will kill me xD - but I think I need this break xD

@Coldi: Yeah more Jack love I have only one playthrough until now with a Maleshep (yep the boring Default one, but I really like the look of him ) and he will for sure never see ME3. Need to do another Male run, need to finish Alice and have Lilith parked somwhere in the mid of part 1. So you see, same here xD But well yeah, since none of my Sheps will get imported in 3 (Blue cried enough for 1000 playthroughs) we only have to go through 2 games at all ^^

@Emerald: seriously considering re-writing ME3 in a heavily headcanoned fanfic.- YEEEEEEEES please! Or we just start a heavy new project: reprogramm ME3 xD That would be huge in fact xD But we definately need more fandom and headcanon And welcome to that "Anti-Alliance" Club xD

wanna chat with you right now T_T miss that and i just don't know what to add to the expression of what all you wonderfull guys said

[Emeraldfern]

@coldwetn0se
Yay, more incentive to write wee! Which I've decide I will do, but I've got quite a few other projects to finish first...
Oh and <zippers/ridges>? <--- Me gusta


A somewhat <zippers/ridges> related fact that occured when I played ME3:

Once I could customize my Shep's casual wear, I actually chose the "skanky dress".
At first I chose it because I was so used to the fact of seeing my Shep in a dress that the other casuals didn't fit her.

And then when I saw the "butt-zipper" I was "Wait wut? Why..why is there a zipper going down her butt?".
And then I thought: Wait...Thane has a suggestive zipper too doesn't he? She'll just try and match him as far as suggestive zippers are concerned!

So that makes that "butt-zipper" some incentive for Thane doesn't it? Espicially considering where his hands were when he was kissing Shep in ME2.....

/ The aforementioned train of thought, may be my inspiration for those pieces of smut art that I've been working on. Which I'm still not finished with yet....I'm juggling between drawing spaces for the Thaneopoly and said smut art.

[Edit] *Sigh* another case of format derp...and spelling gah!

Modifié par Emeraldfern, 16 mai 2012 - 08:22 .

[JECW]

That dress looks so weird on Shepard, and she doesn't know how to walk in it..
Why couldn't we get somthing better than the same dress Allers wears.

I think Thane would love Shepads space Victoria Secret bra and panties. Why can't he get to see Shepard in that.

[coldwetn0se]

@Emeraldfern - Bwahahaha!! Okay, now I am walking through the house randomly saying, "butt-zipper".
Yes, I am a 40something year old Beavis (my husband is Butthead; trust me......he can even do his voice spot on...HA!) So, thank you sooo much for my catch phrase of the day.....it is sure to annoy my husband thoroughly <evil grin>.

@JECW - If we could have had REAL private time, then maybe he could have seen the VS bra/panties.


*EDIT* Oh dear lord!  VS = Victoria Secret in this case.  Just realized how that looked after I posted it.

Modifié par coldwetn0se, 16 mai 2012 - 08:49 .

[mnomaha]

Just popping in...

There's also the fact that in ME1 Hacket even says something like "I know you're a Spectre now, but you're still human". So how is it that Earth suddenly has supreme authority over a Spectre? Even a human one...especially the only human Spectre.

Makes no flipping sense...

[coldwetn0se]

mnomaha wrote...

Just popping in...

There's also the fact that in ME1 Hacket even says something like "I know you're a Spectre now, but you're still human". So how is it that Earth suddenly has supreme authority over a Spectre? Even a human one...especially the only human Spectre.

Makes no flipping sense...

^This.  A thousand times this.......and all those other unanswered questions......

[mnomaha]

Exactly. It would have made sense if Shep wasn't reinstated in ME2, but some were, so ME3 does not work. Which we already knew. And the longer they take to acknowledge the **** they gave us, the more errors we will find.

[coldwetn0se]

^Exactly...that is exactly what keeps happening. It seems like every morning I start thinking of new things in me3 that just don't make sense, posed to many questions, red herrings (like the greybox either you or JECW posted about.....I think it was one of you), and other "dropped balls" and messy elements. Blech!

BTW, am about to disappear for a bit. Going to install DAO into my PC.......here we go--------->

[JECW]

It was me who mentioned the grey box. They made it sound so important in ME2.

Also why do you have to be reinstated as a spectre again. If it happened in ME2 shouldn't it still be there. For some reason it's not and you never learn why. Anderson says you were a spectre at the beggining of ME3 and then later the turian Councilor reinstates you. I want to know why I lost my spectre status again.

[utaker1988]

JECW wrote...

I think Thane would love Shepads space Victoria Secret bra and panties. Why can't he get to see Shepard in that.

The ones from ME3?  Yes, why can't he see Shep in those...   

[JECW]

utaker1988 wrote...

JECW wrote...

I think Thane would love Shepads space Victoria Secret bra and panties. Why can't he get to see Shepard in that.

The ones from ME3?  Yes, why can't he see Shep in those...   

Yes.
Shepard must have gotten them from Victoria Secret on the Citadel.