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[Serenade22]

coldwetn0se wrote...

mnomaha wrote...

Okay, call me dense if you will, but can someone please explain to me how "Genophage and Rannoch were foreshadowed forever." I would love to know what I missed...

@Lucky & Julia...I couldn't agree more. I...just don't understand.

Neither one were "foreshadowed forever".  The only thing they have over Thane is content.  We are introduced to the Quarians in ME1, and we learn about how they built the Geth and lost their homeworld.  However; nothing in ME1 really screamed: "Quarians will live outside of their Envirosuits within three years of meeting Tali."  I don't have a problem with it happening, but ME1 doesn't give us much to go on.  So now we move on to ME2.  This is (IIRC) the first time we start learning more about the envirosuits and why it is important for the Quarians to get back their homeworld (60 years vs centuries on a foreign colony).  So what does Tali's plight have over Thanes?  Simple: back story from ME1.  Thats it.

Now for the Genophage.  I will accept that this one is a bit more foreshadowed because we do have Virmire as a reference.  But, that was cloning in the hopes of weeding out the Genophage in cloned Krogan (again IIRC).  It isn't until ME2 that we actually see content relating to the "curing" directly of the Genophage (Maelon's work).  So again, what does the Genophage have over Thane and Keprals?  More backstory in ME1.

To say that the Genophage and Quarian's plight have more foreshadowing, isn't exactly balanced.  Since the Drell are not even introduced to us as a species until ME2, it is rediculous to conclude that the Krogans and Quarians were meant to be saved/changed/whatever simply because they were given prior background in the first game.  They wanted the story to play out that way when they wrote me3, and that is fine.  But since it IS a work of fiction, they most certainly could have used....hell......ANYTHING to save/extend Thane's life.  (including what they did give us in game)  They chose not to.  

About that tweet. He said:

"Genophage and Rannoch were foreshadowed forever. If planned to cure Thane, you'd've heard it."

I don't get it. On January 2011, Bioware launches "Cure Thane" campaign on facebook. If they never wanted to cure Thane, why they did that?

http://brutalgamer.c...thane-campaign/
http://www.facebook....135859066477547

I tweeted Patrick with those links:
https://twitter.com/...126334635184129

Still waiting for a response.

[coldwetn0se]

@Serenade - Very good tweet you did! They may try and shoot down everything we say, but we can counterpoint on what they say as well.

[mnomaha]

I saw that. I wanna squeeeeeeze you serenade! Hell, I retweeted and replied!

I seriously suck at the tweets, but I can retweet like a mofo!

[DineBoo]

I'm really tired of how some choices matter, but others don't.

This was a game of choice. I should have a choice to save Thane, even at the expense of losing the Salarian Councilor. I also should have the choice to punt a blueberry out the airlock.

But if they don't want to offer equal choices, then the ME series should have been a linear RPG., like JRPGs from Japan. Because its obvious this series went from the fans having choice to the fans getting what the writers wanted to do in the story.

[dewayne31]

utaker1988 wrote...

I think all you need to do for the ME3 editor is set the flags to loyal and it will read it as such. I don't know if there are any set flags that specifically state if you helped him with Kolyat or not. My guess is no, I never noticed it in the coalesced file for ME3, only thing I saw was if Thane was alive/dead, loyal/unloyal, romanced/unromanced.

i did that and it said his son was self destructive

[Emeraldfern]

Lucky Thirteen wrote...



how about this?

Gimme!!
 
*ehem* Or rather since I live in Sweden, (thus any overseas postage=not cheap), I'll buy some black textile colours and go crazy on one of my green shirts/tops DIY style! 

(have a lot of green clothing since my favorite colour is green after all)

[mnomaha]

Hmmmm, just looking at that facebook page...it had 1905 likes. Maybe we should reactivate it and see what happens.

[mnomaha]

@Em...I'm with you. Green looks good on me.

[Serenade22]

@coldwetn0se - Thank you! I remembered that campaign when I saw his tweet, and I found the article easily on google, but it was hard to find the original post on facebook, because it was posted more than a year ago. But I wanted to find the original source, posted in their own facebook page, to see what they say about it. They gave us hope with that campaign, they can't deny that.

@mnomaha -
I retweet a lot too, all the tweets with the #SaveThane hastag deserve a retweet.
And good idea about reactivating the fb post, maybe we should comment something there.

[mnomaha]

I've sent the link to some friends in a private group. Hopefully some of the will respond to my guilt trip and like it. LOL

[coldwetn0se]

Ok, I'm out for the night. Getting up at 4am to take my Mother-in-law in for her last eye surgery at 6am. Heh! I say "last" eye surgery like she's got a bunch of them to begin with.......now I'm imagining my MIL as The Fly!

I'm such a bad person.....bad, bad, bad.......

[Tashash]

Hey all, what did....I.....miss.....*checks Twitter*

Oh for F@#$'s sake!

*Rant incoming*

You did forshadow a freaking cure! the LotSB dossier? Lung Transplant? YOU EVEN SUPPORTED THE SAVE THANE FB CAMPAIGN!!!!!!!
YOU GAVE US FALSE HOPE, AND WHY? SO WE'D BLOODY BUY ME3, NOT KNOWING THAT YOU LAZY PRICKS JUST DECIDED TO SCREW US OVER.

I AM SO SICK OF THIS ****!!!

[utaker1988]

@dewayne31, then I guess the only way to fix that would be to actually do the loyalty mission. They didn't exactly put a lot in ME3 for Thane, heck if you do a non import Sheploo, Thane is automatically dead.

I like the shirt. Some of you may shoot me, I don't wear green. I like green, it just doesn't like me...at least not that color green. It doesn't go well with my hair, face, or eyes...lol. I suppose that is what one gets when they keep their hair dyed black with purple streaks.

If they keep dancing around the subject without a clear yes or no, I'm going to go out on the street corner and start begging for change. What do they want? Money? Resources? Why don't they just release the mod tools and be done with it. Why don't they just let us do it ourselves and if they decide they like it, they can make it an official DLC...or not, I don't know if I want them taking something for free and then making money off it. Although, I'm about ready to replace that doll under someone's desk with myself for Thane.

[Julia_xo]

@Tash I saw your tweet:
Thane was more than Kepral's Syndrome, and yet no one seems to care. I will not 'deal with it' - I will fight #SaveThane

Well said! We will not give up.

DineBoo wrote...

I'm really tired of how some choices matter, but others don't.

This was a game of choice. I should have a choice to save Thane, even at the expense of losing the Salarian Councilor. I also should have the choice to punt a blueberry out the airlock.

But if they don't want to offer equal choices, then the ME series should have been a linear RPG., like JRPGs from Japan. Because its obvious this series went from the fans having choice to the fans getting what the writers wanted to do in the story.

Same here. Could not agree more.

ME3 Shepard felt more like BioWare's character than a PC for the player to mold.

There was so much auto-dialogue that it felt like there wasn't as much chance for player input, my choice in LI amounted to nothing because the game decided for me that he didn't matter. Even just talking to squadmates consisted of clicking on them to hear lines of dialogue.

I know the full conversations were still there but they seemed severely lessened. I was never a fan of the Kasumi/Zaeed style click and listen interaction.

Lucky Thirteen wrote...



how about this?

WANT!!! [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/heart.png[/smilie]

Modifié par Julia_xo, 23 mai 2012 - 04:31 .

[JECW]

Serenade22 wrote...

coldwetn0se wrote...

mnomaha wrote...

Okay, call me dense if you will, but can someone please explain to me how "Genophage and Rannoch were foreshadowed forever." I would love to know what I missed...

@Lucky & Julia...I couldn't agree more. I...just don't understand.

Neither one were "foreshadowed forever".  The only thing they have over Thane is content.  We are introduced to the Quarians in ME1, and we learn about how they built the Geth and lost their homeworld.  However; nothing in ME1 really screamed: "Quarians will live outside of their Envirosuits within three years of meeting Tali."  I don't have a problem with it happening, but ME1 doesn't give us much to go on.  So now we move on to ME2.  This is (IIRC) the first time we start learning more about the envirosuits and why it is important for the Quarians to get back their homeworld (60 years vs centuries on a foreign colony).  So what does Tali's plight have over Thanes?  Simple: back story from ME1.  Thats it.

Now for the Genophage.  I will accept that this one is a bit more foreshadowed because we do have Virmire as a reference.  But, that was cloning in the hopes of weeding out the Genophage in cloned Krogan (again IIRC).  It isn't until ME2 that we actually see content relating to the "curing" directly of the Genophage (Maelon's work).  So again, what does the Genophage have over Thane and Keprals?  More backstory in ME1.

To say that the Genophage and Quarian's plight have more foreshadowing, isn't exactly balanced.  Since the Drell are not even introduced to us as a species until ME2, it is rediculous to conclude that the Krogans and Quarians were meant to be saved/changed/whatever simply because they were given prior background in the first game.  They wanted the story to play out that way when they wrote me3, and that is fine.  But since it IS a work of fiction, they most certainly could have used....hell......ANYTHING to save/extend Thane's life.  (including what they did give us in game)  They chose not to.  

About that tweet. He said:

"Genophage and Rannoch were foreshadowed forever. If planned to cure Thane, you'd've heard it."

I don't get it. On January 2011, Bioware launches "Cure Thane" campaign on facebook. If they never wanted to cure Thane, why they did that?

http://brutalgamer.c...thane-campaign/
http://www.facebook....135859066477547

I tweeted Patrick with those links:
https://twitter.com/...126334635184129

Still waiting for a response.

That is just their excuse. They know the
Genopahge and the Quarians were not forshadowed.  In ME2 one thing was said then it was changed in ME3, but they wouldn't do that for Thane.

[Tashash]

I'm tempted to put out this as a tweet - If BioWare had put as much effort into ME3 as they are denying the promises they made and making excuses they wouldn't have a problem.

Have to cut it down some...and maybe it's a bit too snide - thoughts?

Edit - And I want that T-shirt!

Modifié par Tashash, 23 mai 2012 - 04:57 .

[Visii]

Tashash wrote...

I'm tempted to put out this as a tweet - If BioWare had put as much effort into ME3 as they are denying the promises they made and making excuses they wouldn't have a problem.

Have to cut it down some...and maybe it's a bit too snide - thoughts?

Edit - And I want that T-shirt!

I like that tweet just fine!

[mnomaha]

I like it too!

[Tashash]

OK then Visii and Mnohama - Done! And it fit without any editing - I'm getting good at this succient business.

[mnomaha]

Just saw that! Well done, very well done!

[Emeraldfern]

So remember when I posted this a few pages back?

Emeraldfern wrote...

So err..quickly dropping in for some creative input regarding a little project I'm currently working on,

Basically the piece will figure Thane & another squadmate aiming their weapons at a target situated about 4 meters away. The other squadmate will be wielding a Heavy Pistol.

Now my question is should Thane be using an SMG or a sniper-rifle?
Tactically an SMG is more suitable, but at the same time the idea of Thane with a Widow is almost too tempting to pass up...

Oh, and the arsenal to choose a weapon from is Mass Effect 3's.
So which one should I use? Gah, decisions..decisions....

Anyway....I've got something in store that will probably cheer people up a bit, but it will take a while to get done though...

Teaser: "Vengeance is a dish best served cold. And they have a target in mind...."

So what was I teasing?

This:



/Note: Unposterised version exists in case anyone wants to see it without typography and grunginess

And right after this pic I imagine Miranda using Slam to put Kai Leng on the floor, meantime Thane rushes forward as Kai Leng tries to get up, Thane grabs the base of his skull and jaw-bone and:

*Neck-Snap*

Followed by Miranda puttting a bullet in Leng's head.

Thane: "An unecessary precaution. Did you believe he'd get up again?"

Miranda: "Not anymore."

(Yep, I totally referenced the line Miranda used after she killed Wilson, In addition when I get the time, I'm thinking of turning the above into a short comic by posing the 3-d models)

This is the result of many hours on learning how to import, texture and pose models in 3ds Max and fiddling around another couple of hours in Photoshop CS2.

It was both fun and difficult at the same time but meh, I like challenges espicially if they involve Thane
(Oh and yep, I'm posting this in the Miranda thread too incase anyone is wondering)

Modifié par Emeraldfern, 23 mai 2012 - 06:55 .

[Tashash]

@Emerald - F*** YES!!!!!!!

You are now elevated to Godhood in my personal pantheon - Emerald - Deity of Vengance Uopn Cereal Killer's.

I love you so much right now *RibBendingHugs*

[JECW]

That looks really good Emerald.

[Saodade]

hello everybody.

About this:

"Genophage and Rannoch were foreshadowed forever. If planned to cure Thane, you'd've heard it."

I don't get it. On January 2011, Bioware launches "Cure Thane" campaign on facebook. If they never wanted to cure Thane, why they did that?

http://brutalgamer.c...thane-campaign/
http://www.facebook....135859066477547 "

Maybe was he actually saying there will have a cure but not now, in a very second degree humor or being ironic ? Like when you say the contrary of what you mean?
Like: I don't like drelliscious assassins at all, oh no please no don't undress yourself Thane" but going to him anyway? Not sur if you see what I mean?

[Seifer006]

wow. whoever created that pic of Miranda and Thane at the Ceberus Assault Base is gifted. I certainly wish that Bioware would've used that story instead of the one they decided to roll with.

Miranda coming in with Thane to save shepard from Kai Leng. WOW that to me is Epic writing. Epic Action. Epic Story...

*sigh* it's a tragedy the way ME3 turned out to be.

$80 for the CE...............gone