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utaker1988

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I can't help it but.....

Hurry Siha

Hurry Shepard with a funny groan

I have too much time on my hands

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@Jenlocks, I don't know why they do that, other then maybe they are sh!tting in their pants when they find out some Liara fans have joined the Samara group. Squeegee has gotten some nasty PMs, I'm just getting these whiney PMs by brat kids who are afraid that IF Samara becomes a true LI many people will dump the blueberry for Samara who is a far better character.

Ironically (Hopefully I don't offend anyway by stating this) I'm finding that females who play as a lesbian FemShep prefer Samara far more than Liara. In fact I've also discovered that many would also prefer Ashley and Kelly over Liara. Hmm not looking to good there. Sure there are a good number that prefer or go with Liara but I've discovered that a great number would rather have any of the aforementioned characters over Liara.

@Utaker am I going to regret downloading those things you posted? I mean it's not a video clip with ballgags, handcuffs, whips, and other stuff like that?

@TehPrincessJ who went out like a bad@ss? Steve or Thane? I felt that neither went out in a glorious grand bad@ss sort of way.

Mordin went out in a grand way, Legion went out in a grand way, hell even Miranda if she dies on scatury goes out in a grand way fighting for something that had been building since ME2, and goes out attempting to stop her madman dad.

Hell Wrex if you side with the Salarian Dalatrass goes out in a grand way, fighting Shep for the betrayal of their friendship and backstabbing the Krogan, Wrex goes out bad@ss.

Hell I felt Kirrahe went out in much more of a bad@ss way in Thane's place, because it was for a cause that felt like something he'd sacrifice himself for.

Thane didn't do that it felt odd and wrong, Hell Thane taking a bullet and dying protecting Shepard is far more genuine and bad@ss, no mater if it's a friend DudeShep or a LI FemShep. Dying for the Salarian Councilor just don't fit Thane.

On another Thane death thing, when he died the pistol he had was a Phalanx, same pistol Samara attempts to kill herself with, same pistol Udina pulls before ya kill him.

When Ashley/Kaidan gets killed they use a different pistol but I'm not sure which one, maybe Predator or Carnafax HandCannon.

Anyway I noticed that those two pistols are what everyone of your friends in ME3 who dies has with 'em when they die. Those two pistols are cursed they're jinxed no one in my squad should EVER USE them. It's a shame too because the Phalanx is my favorite pistol. But just like the yellow lighter it's a death sentence to use those two pistols.

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Hello.

I made this picture when I was bored, and didn't think much of it and was about to send it to the trash bin on my desktop until someone told me it was pretty cool.  Had the idea of posting it here in this thread.  Feel free to use it however you see fit.

Enjoy!

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P.S. OH HOLY DAMN MOTHER OF WHAT IN THE HELL.  This thread has some... very disturbing things in it.  I get the sneaking suspicion someone is going to print my art and do... um...  bad things. Posted Image

Modifié par Mastermadskills, 27 mai 2012 - 06:50 .


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@Gears, no they are not disgusting...unless you have a dirty mind...they are audio files from ME2. Even if it were videos with all that stuff, the Maker himself would not be able to stop you from watching them.

@Master, that is a pretty cool and awesome picture. I love it! Thanks for sharing it with us.

I have spent the past 4 hours with nothing but Thane's voice piping through my headphones. You know once I get this first round of audio files up, I might actually have time to put my stories up on that site. I should have done that first but they need to be edited and uploading and linking sound files is so tedious and time consuming I figured I'd do the hard (ridges....droool) part first.


Edit:  What disturbing things....I hope no one is looking at me.  :innocent: 

Modifié par utaker1988, 27 mai 2012 - 06:54 .


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Jenlocks wrote...

 Liara and Kaidan together..seems about right to me. (I can't help but crack up whenever I hear shepard call Kaidan her "brother" at that cafe..it reminds me of that movie Tropic Thunder where ben stillers character is trying to cry)
Also a bit unrealted I was watching Defying Gravity the other day and saw Laura Harris on there..if you paint her blue she looks exactly like Liara..kind of creepy.

Do you think they know they screwed over the female fanbase and don't care? Or is it honestly good for them? If the latter then that's just sad :(


Yes. Liara and Kaidan should get together.
I thought it sounded so silly to hear Shepard call him her brother. Did they forget that Shepard hadn't seen Kaidan in two years, and the last time she did he was awful to her. Now he's her brother. It makes me wonder who they have writing this junk.

I think they know they screwed us over, and simply do not care.

Modifié par JECW, 27 mai 2012 - 08:18 .


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or they thought people would not care :'(

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Maybe those pistols are the equivolent to the red shirts on Star Trek ...once those guys sport the red shirt somewhere they're dead

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I think it was mentioned here how the VS was flung at you at Mars and the first Citadel visit. I hated how I was forced into defending/apologizing to the VS, how Shep was so sad when they got hurt and in the hospital. Especially when it sounded like I was in a romance with them. Hello, I'm with Garrus!

Why is my Shep this tore up about the VS when I take the paragon response? Can't I be nice without sound like I'm in love?

BW was definitely forcing choices on you, just without specifically saying so. They only put in team dextro, Miranda, and jack because they knew it would be a bigger crap storm. If the endings weren't so bad, they probably would have been able to get away with it.

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ME1 and 2 were not like this. I don't remember choices being forced on me.

The whole issue with Shepard practically in tears over the VS is ridiculous. It doesn't matter if you romanced the VS at one time or not. When it happened in my Garrus playthrough I was shocked because I never even talked to Kaidan. I thought it was too overly dramatic. Shepard acts as if the world is going to end if Kaidan dies. Thane does and it's no big deal. Shepard didn't get that emotional when Mordin died. She didn't even get that emotional when Garrus was almost killed in ME2.

I felt like we had no choice it what Shepard said or did. Most of the choices I made in the first to games don't even matter. It's like it wasn't even my Shepard anymore.

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Sadly, in ME3 it really isn't our Shep. It's bioware's Shep and they aren't bashful about flaunting that fact.

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Indeed. My Margurite was nothing but a **** to Kaidan (who will ALWAYS be the whiny insecure biotic to me, we'll just have to add azzhat to it now) and yet there she was crying over him. Granted when the "I'm sorry" dialogue came up I thought it would be a "sorry, I didn't mean to hurt you, BUT YOU abandoned me, we weren't in a relationship anymore and you have no right to be upset with me..." Of course it didn't happen that way though. Grrr...

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I have nearly 1k audio files from ME2 that are Thane...just Thane and this includes some that didn't make it into the game, the groans, grunts, a few doubles where the line is said differently with a different tone or inflection. Ok, so maybe 50-100 of those never made it to the game.

I pulled the audio files for ME3...there are 74 and some of them were not used. Look at the difference. I wanted to cry. Wait I did cry because some of the lines not in the game made me cry and the coughing, wheezing, choking. It was painful. But nearly 1k (965+ at least) compared to 74...WTF!!!!

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utaker1988 wrote...

I have nearly 1k audio files from ME2 that are Thane...just Thane and this includes some that didn't make it into the game, the groans, grunts, a few doubles where the line is said differently with a different tone or inflection. Ok, so maybe 50-100 of those never made it to the game.

I pulled the audio files for ME3...there are 74 and some of them were not used. Look at the difference. I wanted to cry. Wait I did cry because some of the lines not in the game made me cry and the coughing, wheezing, choking. It was painful. But nearly 1k (965+ at least) compared to 74...WTF!!!!


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@utaker - sad.....that is just sad. Course, Keythe did say that it was like four session at six hours apiece for ME2, and only ONE session of four hours (of dialogue) for me3(bleh)......





hi

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That is just bloody pathetic.

And Coldi..."hi"? Hi!

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I had something to say, but I seriously forgot it......***t. I should just go to bed.............................

I am silly tired.......wine was probably not the best idea, but dammit......i wanned sum.

:P
na-nite shell, u, everyone else *waves as though in slow motion*

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I'm sure those who romanced him aren't happy with it, but the way Thane went out made him a much more special and memorable character than the rest of the cast from ME2 IMO. Same thing with Mordin.

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yeah...i really got the impression that my kairn and my marian was so much different then they were supposed to be in me1/me2....
i really did not recognize them. both of them would go through hell just to save all of their squadies, both will freeze hell to save thane and not just watching, eating popcorn and saying to garrus: THIS i an epical fight...<.<
for real, bioware? where is my kind shepard. even paragon seemed to be frustrated and out of hope. and well...salarians...krogans....i never expected wrex to be a **** like this o.O was i the only one with the imagine of a small child wanting his lolly while he was discussion with salarian and turian about the genophage?
and with dalaterasse...well i will not start this, because i don't want to curse...

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utaker1988 wrote...
Edit:  What disturbing things....I hope no one is looking at me.  :innocent: 


well...sure! xD the first thought i had was: utaker...shell...of course xD but well all we other are not better, we are not, but well, you're always my first imagination when it comes to this :D

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@PlumPaul, Memorable doesn't always mean favourable. ME3 was an exercise in absurdism for me and I easily digested the endings because yes, it does appear that Bioware writers can be that bad.

Thane's death was not done with finesse, sensitivity or care that I saw the writers were capable of nor with a gravitas that I felt fitted the situation - even if his character was a friend. (Legion and Mordin had a much greater build-up before their demise in which you could actually interact/see them interact with the written universe.) Thane's content stunk of poor time management/resource restrictions and an afterthought. Writers might say that the result was their intention but it seems that end was the only thing they put much effort into. Perhaps he is dead in the default non-imported play because there is no narrative perspective as to why a new player should even care who he was or that he died.
It was a shame that I felt only one aspect of such a great character was even explored - his compassion and selflessness (even on his death bed!) and then nothing. That's it. Done.
It was the equivalent of Mordin having 3 near-identical investigate lines talking about the genophage, singing and then blowing up with nary an objection or reaction by Shepard.

It funny but it seems that in order to 'fix' content the easiest solution would indeed be akin to utaker's suggestion - a short message and off you go! You wouldn't even be missing out on content provided by the non-choice for him to survive as there wasn't any :D (Which is in itself completely ridiculous from a writing stand-point. You have branching conclusions for numerous characters but when it became a sure thing - everyone will be viewing/involved in the content provided he survived ME2 - they did nothing? Ridonkulous)

I would never say that I hoped Thane would die - I was vaguely accepting that there was the possibility. But then I was also a firm believer that Shepard was never going to survive anyway and perhaps they could both go out in a blaze of glory. Turns out both went out in similarly repulsive manners. And with buggy, poorly written romance content to boot! Truly they were fated for one-another... :\\

Anyway, end-rant hehe. Next time I'll bring a Thane picture to compensate. (Speaking of which, am I the only one who thought ME2 was way more impressive for graphics conversational/cut-scene wise than 3? I have over 300 stills for ME2, the only ones that made me think 'cool' in ME3 were a few action scenes and space-battles. The convos ranged from buggy to depressingly static.)

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Mastermadskills wrote...

Hello.

I made this picture when I was bored, and didn't think much of it and was about to send it to the trash bin on my desktop until someone told me it was pretty cool.  Had the idea of posting it here in this thread.  Feel free to use it however you see fit.

Enjoy!

Posted Image







P.S. OH HOLY DAMN MOTHER OF WHAT IN THE HELL.  This thread has some... very disturbing things in it.  I get the sneaking suspicion someone is going to print my art and do... um...  bad things. Posted Image


This is so lovely, such awesome work!!!Posted Image

There are no bad things...I think!Posted Image Though perhaps worried caution is prudent!Posted Image

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My new favorite Thane saying Just one toy left 

I immediately thought of this one I wrote awhile back:

Garrus: Have you seen Shepard?
Javik: She's with that Drell.
Garrus: I figured that but where did she go?
Javik: They went into the Main Battery.
Garrus: Oh this is not good.....
Javik: You don't say. They unloaded the cold storage.
Garrus: What?
Javik: Can of whipped topping, chocolate syrup, caramel, marshmallow, ice cream, I think I saw bananas too.
Garrus: They are eating in the Main Battery!!!
Javik: Sure Turian, if eating also involves restraint devices, confetti, streamers, and some other things I didn't recognize.
Garrus: I don't want to know.
Javik: Sure you do. You want to know what they are doing in your domain.
Garrus: Birthday party? But mine is not for months.....
Javik:  :blink:
:::Shepard streaks by covered in confetti, caramel, marshmallow and ice cream, handcuffs dangling from her wrists and ankles:::::
Shep: I said NOOOOOOOOOOOO......
:::Thane streaks by, covered in whipped topping, chocolate, party hat on (nothing else btw), streamers in one hand and banana in the other:::
Thane: Siha, I wasn't going to put the banana there!!!
Garrus: Looks like I have some calibrations to do....

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@gears: actually, I was talking about Thane. Yes, it did bother me to see Shep & squad just stand there while Thane fought Lt. Bastard Kai Leng, but I'm glad we got the fight before the hospital scene. He didn't die "confined to a bed, gasping horribly as his life beeped away to machinery". And I've seen what happens there with Kirrahe, and it just seemed... more pathetic, somehow.

What really, really makes me angry is the lack of acknowledgement from Shep's friends and crew following the return to the Normandy.

I'm currently on my 7th playthrough, and I can honestly say, that I'm totally, in no way, over losing Thane.
Also, regarding the Phalax. It's my favorite pistol, too. Posted Image My Vanguard Drell uses it in multiplayer, and I know it's because of Thane. And this:

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baibai_baby wrote...

@PlumPaul, Memorable doesn't always mean favourable. ME3 was an exercise in absurdism for me and I easily digested the endings because yes, it does appear that Bioware writers can be that bad.

Thane's death was not done with finesse, sensitivity or care that I saw the writers were capable of nor with a gravitas that I felt fitted the situation - even if his character was a friend. (Legion and Mordin had a much greater build-up before their demise in which you could actually interact/see them interact with the written universe.) Thane's content stunk of poor time management/resource restrictions and an afterthought. Writers might say that the result was their intention but it seems that end was the only thing they put much effort into. Perhaps he is dead in the default non-imported play because there is no narrative perspective as to why a new player should even care who he was or that he died.
It was a shame that I felt only one aspect of such a great character was even explored - his compassion and selflessness (even on his death bed!) and then nothing. That's it. Done.
It was the equivalent of Mordin having 3 near-identical investigate lines talking about the genophage, singing and then blowing up with nary an objection or reaction by Shepard.

It funny but it seems that in order to 'fix' content the easiest solution would indeed be akin to utaker's suggestion - a short message and off you go! You wouldn't even be missing out on content provided by the non-choice for him to survive as there wasn't any :D (Which is in itself completely ridiculous from a writing stand-point. You have branching conclusions for numerous characters but when it became a sure thing - everyone will be viewing/involved in the content provided he survived ME2 - they did nothing? Ridonkulous)

I would never say that I hoped Thane would die - I was vaguely accepting that there was the possibility. But then I was also a firm believer that Shepard was never going to survive anyway and perhaps they could both go out in a blaze of glory. Turns out both went out in similarly repulsive manners. And with buggy, poorly written romance content to boot! Truly they were fated for one-another... :

Anyway, end-rant hehe. Next time I'll bring a Thane picture to compensate. (Speaking of which, am I the only one who thought ME2 was way more impressive for graphics conversational/cut-scene wise than 3? I have over 300 stills for ME2, the only ones that made me think 'cool' in ME3 were a few action scenes and space-battles. The convos ranged from buggy to depressingly static.)


This was so very well said.  Thought it should be quoted so others that may have missed it, get a chance to read it.

And no, you are not the only one who liked the graphics/cutscenes and conversations better in ME2.....I hold the same opinion.

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Ummm...yeah, I was scouring the ME3 audio files and there is a part with Joker where he says, "And now..." and then a whole list of people who could have or did die and he does say "Thane"... too bad they didn't actually put that in there. So, for what it's worth, at least Joker was supposed to acknowledge him.  

I believe "And now..." is the lead in and whomever has died is injected in with just their name. Doesn't mean much when it's not actually in the game but he was supposed to be acknowledged. Again, a ball was dropped and there was no need for it that time..it's in the game files.

Modifié par utaker1988, 28 mai 2012 - 05:28 .