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I agree Stysiaq. I think Bioware is holding MANY things back. Its the final installment of a popular franchise. You don't want to give all the goods away. They want people to buy the game. Thus, all the good stuff is months away.

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Hang on, is the title of this thread calling Thane an "it"?

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More like the relationship between Thane and Shepard is referred to as 'it.'

Open to interpretation though :P

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The "it" in question is from Thane's dialogue. Its his quote. :P

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I'm back! :)
I went to the USA for a month!
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Thane plush got to see a desert!

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hanar05 wrote...
I'm back! :)
I went to the USA for a month!
Thane plush got to see a desert!

Nice to see you're back. I hope your vacation went well. Las Vegas is fun!

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@Hanar...those pics are so cute...^_^

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stysiaq wrote...

Personally, I think that Thane will have more than a minor appearance in ME3. I remember some ME2 pre-release interview, where one of the devs named him one of his favorites, and probable fan favorite. Also, he was heavily involved in the marketing process. Too much effort was put into his creation, just to be killed off at the beginning of ME3.


I really hope this is the case...I want my Thane back...I already don't like having to wait so long to pick him up in ME2, would love him on the team earlier.

I just hope BW isn't making a lot of decisions based on the size of fan bases...Thane and Kasumi have two of the smaller fan bases...I still think that has a lot to do with Thane being a late recruit and Kasumi being a DLC...Thane is also kinda controversial in his beliefs and opinions and the player really needs to sit down and think about what he says from a philosophical perspective to get a clearer insight into what he is saying....it doesn't mean you have to necessarily agree with him or not, but he certainly makes you think....I really enjoy that...I love his dialog....except for the memory thing...:(....all the picture flashing makes my head ache...but thats BW, not Thanes character.

Modifié par Golden Owl, 29 août 2011 - 12:20 .


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@Golden Owl
I read on an Escapist article that Bioware does listen to fan feedback and it does affect their games, however, it came from the Dragon Age people so I don't know if the Mass Effect staff take the same approach.  I think vocal fans do have some influence, but Bioware isn't going to write a character out of a story because of popularity.  I mean even Jacob has a fanbase.  I don't think one character will be favored over another solely due to their fanbase, that wouldn't be fair.  I want Thane back to stay...

I really liked how Thane's philosophy doesn't really fit with how an average person would reason.  I disagreed with Thane's philosophy, but at the same time I understood why he thought that way.  It's what made him feel like an alien on top of looking like one.

Those notorious memory flashbacks.  The first thing I thought while watching those scenes was "wait...he has an iris!?".:lol:

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Again, very well said.

@Hanar
Looks like Thane had some fun on his vacation. XD
I hope Shepard can take him to a desert somewhere in ME3.

Modifié par Enmystic, 29 août 2011 - 12:54 .


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Enmystic wrote...

@Golden Owl
I read on an Escapist article that Bioware does listen to fan feedback and it does affect their games, however, it came from the Dragon Age people so I don't know if the Mass Effect staff take the same approach.  I think vocal fans do have some influence, but Bioware isn't going to write a character out of a story because of popularity.  I mean even Jacob has a fanbase.  I don't think one character will be favored over another solely due to their fanbase, that wouldn't be fair.  I want Thane back to stay...

I really liked how Thane's philosophy doesn't really fit with how an average person would reason.  I disagreed with Thane's philosophy, but at the same time I understood why he thought that way.  It's what made him feel like an alien on top of looking like one.

Those notorious memory flashbacks.  The first thing I thought while watching those scenes was "wait...he has an iris!?".:lol:


Just in case the vocal fans have input, I have been pushing some cases harder than I normally would myself...goes against personal character, but it seems quiet doesn't get the notice....But yes, I do hope even if fan bases are smaller, BW still takes note...I know I would be very disappointed if Thane only received a small part and gets blitzed by more popular characters.

Thanes Philosophy....Exactly Enmystic, "disagreeing though understanding"...I love Thanes perception, it does make him feel different, but also makes the player think...he does in fact have some fascinating points....I really enjoy his and Sheps dialog together....and am hoping to see more of it.

An Iris AND double lids....^_^

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Golden Owl wrote...
Just in case the vocal fans have input, I have been pushing some cases harder than I normally would myself...goes against personal character, but it seems quiet doesn't get the notice....But yes, I do hope even if fan bases are smaller, BW still takes note...I know I would be very disappointed if Thane only received a small part and gets blitzed by more popular characters.

Thanes Philosophy....Exactly Enmystic, "disagreeing though understanding"...I love Thanes perception, it does make him feel different, but also makes the player think...he does in fact have some fascinating points....I really enjoy his and Sheps dialog together....and am hoping to see more of it.

An Iris AND double lids....^_^

Well there was the Cure Thane banner.  That was pretty vocal.  On top of that Thane's a love interest so he needs content at some point.  I keep getting this nagging suspicion that Thane's going to get some kind of plot twist in his story come ME3.  I could be overthinking it though.:blush:

Thane does have an interesting perception.  I'm with you.  I hope ME3 will allow Thane to discuss more about philosophy with Shepard in some way.  I also hope Kolyat gets some more screentime too.  I don't feel like we got to know him that well.

I feel weird admitting it, but, as an animator, I get excited when the camera angle is close enough to allow you to see both.:lol:

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Enmystic wrote...

Golden Owl wrote...
Just in case the vocal fans have input, I have been pushing some cases harder than I normally would myself...goes against personal character, but it seems quiet doesn't get the notice....But yes, I do hope even if fan bases are smaller, BW still takes note...I know I would be very disappointed if Thane only received a small part and gets blitzed by more popular characters.

Thanes Philosophy....Exactly Enmystic, "disagreeing though understanding"...I love Thanes perception, it does make him feel different, but also makes the player think...he does in fact have some fascinating points....I really enjoy his and Sheps dialog together....and am hoping to see more of it.

An Iris AND double lids....^_^

Well there was the Cure Thane banner.  That was pretty vocal.  On top of that Thane's a love interest so he needs content at some point.  I keep getting this nagging suspicion that Thane's going to get some kind of plot twist in his story come ME3.  I could be overthinking it though.:blush:

Thane does have an interesting perception.  I'm with you.  I hope ME3 will allow Thane to discuss more about philosophy with Shepard in some way.  I also hope Kolyat gets some more screentime too.  I don't feel like we got to know him that well.

I feel weird admitting it, but, as an animator, I get excited when the camera angle is close enough to allow you to see both.:lol:

A plot twist would be cool, an involved circumstances story arc, would make him more than just another squaddie...I like it...:)

I am not too concerned about Kolyat myself...though I would definitely like to see Thane developing a relationship with his son in ME3....their growth together as father and son, etc...

Between Thane and Legion I love getting my fill of the philosophic touch in ME2...BW does seem to be improving with each game on that one and they have the perfect opportunity to drive it further with Thane and Legion involved....I feel Samara could add to it too, but Thane and Legion blitzed it in ME2.

The flashy eye thing...yes, I get your point....apparently I'm a low level epileptic,....prone to black outs, but my eyes stay open and I keep operating at low levels...yup, I'm weird...:unsure:...^_^...so yes, anyway, the flashing messes with my head too much for me to be able to take a lot of note of the finer graphics in the flashy scenes.

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 The first part of my next fic is up, if anyone is interested.

The Heist, 'Awakening Series', Part 2 -  Chapter 1

<3  :kissing:

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Golden Owl wrote...

I really hope this is the case...I want my Thane back...I already don't like having to wait so long to pick him up in ME2, would love him on the team earlier.


I always hack the game to have him with me from the very beginning. :innocent:   If you know how to use Gibbed's Save Editor it isn't very difficult. I can put together a little tutorial and post a link to it, if you are interested. (Warning: don't take him on his own recruitment mission. Apart from creating a space-time paradoxon it will also crash your game... ;))

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Artanisia wrote...

Golden Owl wrote...

I really hope this is the case...I want my Thane back...I already don't like having to wait so long to pick him up in ME2, would love him on the team earlier.

I always hack the game to have him with me from the very beginning. :innocent:   If you know how to use Gibbed's Save Editor it isn't very difficult. I can put together a little tutorial and post a link to it, if you are interested. (Warning: don't take him on his own recruitment mission. Apart from creating a space-time paradoxon it will also crash your game... ;))

However, this only works if you have Thane and an early recruit together. If you, for example, have Thane and, say, Tali early on through the game, the game will crash during Horizon. You're just not meant to have these guys before Horizon.

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Artanisia wrote...

Golden Owl wrote...

I really hope this is the case...I want my Thane back...I already don't like having to wait so long to pick him up in ME2, would love him on the team earlier.


I always hack the game to have him with me from the very beginning. :innocent:   If you know how to use Gibbed's Save Editor it isn't very difficult. I can put together a little tutorial and post a link to it, if you are interested. (Warning: don't take him on his own recruitment mission. Apart from creating a space-time paradoxon it will also crash your game... ;))


I'm interested.
Is there any new or different dialogue if you get Thane earlier.

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Golden Owl wrote...
A plot twist would be cool, an involved circumstances story arc, would make him more than just another squaddie...I like it...:)

I am not too concerned about Kolyat myself...though I would definitely like to see Thane developing a relationship with his son in ME3....their growth together as father and son, etc...

Between Thane and Legion I love getting my fill of the philosophic touch in ME2...BW does seem to be improving with each game on that one and they have the perfect opportunity to drive it further with Thane and Legion involved....I feel Samara could add to it too, but Thane and Legion blitzed it in ME2.

The flashy eye thing...yes, I get your point....apparently I'm a low level epileptic,....prone to black outs, but my eyes stay open and I keep operating at low levels...yup, I'm weird...:unsure:...^_^...so yes, anyway, the flashing messes with my head too much for me to be able to take a lot of note of the finer graphics in the flashy scenes.


It just seems too easy for me to think that Thane is going continue as is.  I hope Bioware doesn't dissapoint, even though I've been epicly wrong before.:lol:

Who knows Thane and Legion whoever else may have an earlier joining/rotation point since they were the late joining characters last game.  That would be nice.

It's visible in other scenes, not just the flashing ones.  The camera just has to be focused on his face in general.  It's like Legion's face plate movement.  I like seeing subtle movement like that in animations.:blush:

@Artanisia
I don't like hacking games, but that does sound fun. 

Oh, I spy fanfiction! *runs to read*

Modifié par Enmystic, 29 août 2011 - 11:07 .


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JECWSU wrote...
I'm interested.
Is there any new or different dialogue if you get Thane earlier.


I used Gibbed's Save Editor and it was very easy to change a save to include Thane. There are some additional lines. Example, when you go recruit Garrus. Otherwise, it the same Thane. Its just nice to be able to have him with you the entire game.

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Eek! Thank you Aislinn for posting the next part of your FF <3

Slightly off-topic but is anyone else hoping that you can recruit your squad in whatever order you want? (other then the inital 1-2 obviously) I want my Drell sooner rather than later >.<

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Gnas wrote...

JECWSU wrote...
I'm interested.
Is there any new or different dialogue if you get Thane earlier.


I used Gibbed's Save Editor and it was very easy to change a save to include Thane. There are some additional lines. Example, when you go recruit Garrus. Otherwise, it the same Thane. Its just nice to be able to have him with you the entire game.


I didn't know that. It would be nice to have had him earlier.
Do the additional lines mean that Thane was suppose to be recruited earlier originally?

@Aislinn
Love the fanfic. I look forward to reading more.

@Takotna
Yes.
I would love to be able to recruit my squad in whatever orderI want. That was one thing that bothered me with ME2. We get Thane so late in the game. At the same time I would rather get him later, and have him until the end rather than get him early only to have him leave in the middle.

Modifié par JECWSU, 29 août 2011 - 12:42 .


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The only extra dialogue Thane gets when recruited early are little comments during missions. And he pretty much says what any other squaddue would say except in Keythe Farley's voice. Always be careful with modding though. I used the save editor to recruit squaddies earlier, but straight after I got the IFF, I went back on the Normandy, and no crew was there. Which meant they died when I went on the SM.

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The only real modding I ever do is to my Shepards. I just could never get one to look the way I wanted her to without the modding. I would like to mod Thane's clothes though.

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Artanisia wrote...

Golden Owl wrote...

I really hope this is the case...I want my Thane back...I already don't like having to wait so long to pick him up in ME2, would love him on the team earlier.


I always hack the game to have him with me from the very beginning. :innocent:   If you know how to use Gibbed's Save Editor it isn't very difficult. I can put together a little tutorial and post a link to it, if you are interested. (Warning: don't take him on his own recruitment mission. Apart from creating a space-time paradoxon it will also crash your game... ;))


XBox....:(...Thank you very much for the offer though Artanisia....^_^

Modifié par Golden Owl, 29 août 2011 - 01:41 .


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Enmystic wrote...
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Who knows Thane and Legion whoever else may have an earlier joining/rotation point since they were the late joining characters last game.  That would be nice.

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That would be very nice....^_^.....As it is, I run the game....Grab Garrus, then Kasumi....collect Garrus first because I prefer him and Kas on the Presidium.....grab others b4 Horizon....then the moment Illium arrives, run for Thane...the only stop I make is for that sweet kiss from Gianna on the way through....^_^....Just putting it out there, a thought I have had, if Thane isn't romanced, do you think Seryna might show up in ME3 as default beau for Thane?

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Takotna wrote...

Eek! Thank you Aislinn for posting the next part of your FF <3

Slightly off-topic but is anyone else hoping that you can recruit your squad in whatever order you want? (other then the inital 1-2 obviously) I want my Drell sooner rather than later >.<


I am still hoping and praying that BW just might be able to pull off allowing us to pick our own squads from the ME1, 2 & 3 pool....I have my list just in case...^_^