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[wildannie]

coldwetn0se wrote...

Morning, drell-lickers!!  I posted in the Thane DLC thread.  I don't no if my skin is getting thicker, or that fact that those that parrot the same thing over and over just don't mean anything to me anymore.  Simply put, their feelings on the matter just don't mean a 'thang to me!  I know what I want, why I want it, just as I probably won't change their minds, they won't change mine, and in the end; what we get is what we get.  Either BW will add more content, choices for Thane, or they won't.  Still standing here with my wants nonetheless.

Anyway, here is where I posted if anyone is interested:  POST

I enjoyed your post, I just went for a rant... I toned it down a bit but when a BW representative is spouting all that **** I find it hard to keep it in.  



I just responded to Tullys stupid tweet. Not big and not very clever but made me feel one iota better... but only one


https://twitter.com/...045102835253248

Modifié par wildannie, 27 juin 2012 - 06:27 .

[Renmiri1]

Cosmochyck wrote...

Ok folks - Dine we may have our answer. Tully just tweeted that "outside the Thane threads, there is a large percentile that don't want the experinced trivialized.

Trivialized ???? 

Want something mre trivial than having his death not mentioned by ANYONE ? Having his LI not count for anything ? Having Sheppard unable to say anything about him ? 

 BW guys make me want to puke

[utaker1988]

I also don't like my intelligence insulted either. How is asking for more dialogue and the romance to count "trivializing" anything? Now I am a bit peeved. They are the geniuses who took a female LI and killed him off and totally forgot that some people would be pissed off about it. Especially when his character got s**t on in the process. Was it necessary to make him die? No it was not. It isn't even necessary to cure him. I suppose they could have had him still sick and will himself to live to the end of the game. I can't imagine there would be too many who would start crying that he's still alive. Some probably wouldn't even care, they'd just say, "Meh, he's still sick so they didn't retcon that."

Now they are stuck with a statement like that. People will yell if he's allowed to live to the end of the game now. Perhaps he should not have been offed to begin with.

[Renmiri1]

Ya, to have us S**t upon like that I'd rather not have met the specially made for female LI.
GRRRRRRR

Will probably replay ME2 to make Thane die on the suicide mission. Would rather not have Thane at all on ME3 than to have that farse 

Modifié par Renmiri1, 27 juin 2012 - 06:33 .

[coldwetn0se]

BeanieBat wrote...

Cosmochyck wrote...

Ok folks - Dine we may have our answer. Tully just tweeted that "outside the Thane threads, there is a large percentile that don't want the experinced trivialized.

That refers to Thane's death, I assume?   Surely having more time with Thane, even if it's just more than one conversation or a better conversation than we got, wouldn't "trivialize" his death?  I mean, I would love a cure for Thane to keep him around, but I really have lost all hope for that.  Now I only have (very little) hope that BW will realise that one conversation with Thane (all about him dying from a new disease) was never enough.  And that not having him down as an LI was not fair.

Giggle/laugh  And what are the sources for "outside the Thane threads, there is a large percentile that don't want the experience trivialized."  I mean come on....first this wouldn't even BE an arguement or issue if the choice (based on loyalty/romance) had been presented from the very beginning.  And you know I am going to start assuming things about Tully based on his avatar alone (Kai-lover??)...HA!  I think it is a load of BS anyway. 

Evil Chris had posted a question over at HTL, about "what was the WORST thing about me3" (and I know a fair number of you have posted there...go team!), and you know what the most common post was???  Kai Lame!  I think BECAUSE we are stuck with the pseudo cereal ninja, people grasp at whatever they can to make it seem less rediculous.  Seeing "our" assassin go after that Space Samurai at least grabbed your attention.....but even most of them HATED that nonsensical fight.  Now that doesn't mean I know the "numbers" on who thought it was great how he died (or simply THAT he died), but again, doesn't really matter.  Should have been a different story line set up from the beginning for Thane, and I have ZERO doubt that with the exception of a few who just like to be contrarians, these people wouldn't have had a problem with Thane being given a chance to extend his life.  Hell, if they had just stuck with the already established lore, he would have most likely lived until (or near the end) the end of the game.  And any life extending could have come from his general health, his will, or some medical aid that fits the lore (Eupolmus Device, new Antibiotics courtesy of a  Quarian/Hanar/Salarian (wuteva) medical research, lung transplant while we were under house arrest...ya gets the point.)  So adding in the choice now makes just as much sense as anything.  They may choose not to, but that doesn't mean putting this in is bad writing...no, no.  We already got that.

[Lucky Thirteen]

Thane is already trivialized by his death. That's all his character amounts to in ME3, he's the equivalent to a red shirt.

[Moira-chan]

sooo offline time is over, ec is played now i can come back. hell...that was...*searching for right words* interessting?
at least they've shown thane face but...

~*~spoiler~*~

what really suprised me was, that at the end (i took red) there are shown all the victims, legion, mordin, bakhara in this pt, but it does not show thane. know i'm thinking, is it, because i've seen before as LI or is it the discriminating thing again?

and yeah...
did i miss anything?

[Moira-chan]

Renmiri1 wrote...

Ya, to have us S**t upon like that I'd rather not have met the specially made for female LI.
GRRRRRRR

Will probably replay ME2 to make Thane die on the suicide mission. Would rather not have Thane at all on ME3 than to have that farse 

i was really thinking about this two, while i start a new pt in me2 a month ago...but i can't i cannot willingly send him to death...

[JECW]

Cosmochyck wrote...

Ok folks - Dine we may have our answer. Tully just tweeted that "outside the Thane threads, there is a large percentile that don't want the experinced trivialized.

What about our experience? Mine was already trivialized by the way he was treated in this game.
It is so frustrating to hear that they are choosing to listen to a buch of people who could care less about Thane.

Modifié par JECW, 27 juin 2012 - 06:48 .

[Moira-chan]

that's really dumn. why? all people who don't want it trivilized, could refuse downloading a dlc. it would not change anything o.o

[wildannie]

JECW wrote...

Cosmochyck wrote...

Ok folks - Dine we may have our answer. Tully just tweeted that "outside the Thane threads, there is a large percentile that don't want the experinced trivialized.

What about our experience? Mine was already trivialized by the way he was treated in this game.
It is so frustrating to hear that they are choosing to listen to a buch of people who could care less about Thane.

I know, and you could say that about any thread really,  who really cares about any character outside of the Fan threads?  Nobody, they were penny pinching and female players got shafted, but they can't admit to that so the squirm around with feeble excuses that only make things worse...  I have so little respect for the ME team and Bioware PR its scary. 

[Cosmochyck]

Ok so here is the convo he had in it's entirety - it started with myth saying that it felt like he wasn't listening:
From Tully to:
@JECW77 @mythlover20 also, outside of the thane group a large percentile would not like us to trivialize the experience.
@JECW77 @mythlover20 You see this as not listening, but when you have 1000's of requests we choose those which we agree with.
@JECW77 @mythlover20 our job is to interpret the feedback and design something that addresses the bulk while maintaining our own ideals.
@JECW77 @mythlover20 We listen to all feedback, sometimes we receive conflicting feedback, or requests that can’t be implemented.

[mnomaha]

Hey guys, still working on coffee here...who was doing that video with all the "non-existent" foreshadowing and stuff. Sorry, it's early and my brain is sleeping.

[Moira-chan]

i've posted to tully and jessica, that we got a lot of positive feedback outside this forum. gave them the link to snn

[coldwetn0se]

mnomaha wrote...

Hey guys, still working on coffee here...who was doing that video with all the "non-existent" foreshadowing and stuff. Sorry, it's early and my brain is sleeping.

I think it was @ParagonofPeace....I think.

I think we should put down a nice easy to read FAQ in response to the most common arguements people make about Thane not being saved or life extended (or hell, even bothered with, apparently...pfftt!).  I will start outlining one, in a bit.  I am having to play the "heavy" right now for work; not terribly fun.  One little aside though, while I was going down the tenant list for the light industrial building I manage, I was on the phone with the bookkeeper and I actually called one of our tenants, "Drell".....his name is Darell.  See how it's spelled....HA!  Ya, probably should do this when I'm working, eh??

[BeanieBat]

I had a list of questions that I'd written down on a piece of scrap paper... they were questions that I just wanted genuine, honest answers to. But I realised that we were probably never going to get honest answers, so didn't bother posting them. However, I'm going to go and look for that piece of paper now...

[mnomaha]

*hands up* GOAL!!!! Wow I think I got reported in that thread. LOL

[wildannie]

BeanieBat wrote...

I had a list of questions that I'd written down on a piece of scrap paper... they were questions that I just wanted genuine, honest answers to. But I realised that we were probably never going to get honest answers, so didn't bother posting them. However, I'm going to go and look for that piece of paper now...

Yeah, I don't think the words and meaning of  'genuine' and 'honest' are known within the company that is Bioware

lol, I saw that mnomaha... I thought it was pretty undeserved, that guy was being a bit over outraged.

Modifié par wildannie, 27 juin 2012 - 07:33 .

[Moira-chan]

i really feels like i'm a cd with a scratch...
i'm always reapting and repeating the same arguments...just like a parrot.
why are we all screwed for being thanemancers and just ask for equality

[JECW]

wildannie wrote...

JECW wrote...

Cosmochyck wrote...

Ok folks - Dine we may have our answer. Tully just tweeted that "outside the Thane threads, there is a large percentile that don't want the experinced trivialized.

What about our experience? Mine was already trivialized by the way he was treated in this game.
It is so frustrating to hear that they are choosing to listen to a buch of people who could care less about Thane.

I know, and you could say that about any thread really,  who really cares about any character outside of the Fan threads?  Nobody, they were penny pinching and female players got shafted, but they can't admit to that so the squirm around with feeble excuses that only make things worse...  I have so little respect for the ME team and Bioware PR its scary. 

Exactly.
They are using it as an exuse for the mess they made in ME3. I have seen enough people outside of the Thane threads that didn't think he was treated well in ME3. They say they are listening but they really don't. At this point what little respect I had for Bioware and the ME team is gone.

[wildannie]

@JECW my respect was gone the day I played ME3... my respect for them has now entered serious negative numbers and there's a very healthy amount of utter disrespect and revulsion in its place...
...I'm awfully angry today

[Vlk3]

My day is completely destroyed. Tully Ackland actually sided with all the trolls who just don't want other people to be happy. It really wouldn't destroy their game. It really isn't something unrealistic and if it was implemented properly, many people could buy such a DLC and enjoy it, still not curing Thane. It's hard to keep hoping that someone will eventually listen to us, when they say that they only listen to feedback they like. It's petty and unmature. They like him dead? Fine. But we don't, and we are the customers, who appreciated they previous products so much that we keep fighting. That must count for something. I don't want anyone to apologize that they like Thane's death. They can give us an option to prolong his life and that would be enough. It does not compromise "artistic integrity" because there are many choices that alter the game much more. Protecting Thane's death as wonderful and in characters means that they don't truly want to admit that they have done injustice to his fans.Claiming that it's what most people want is bs, because most of people isn't going to fight over that. It does't mean they wouldn't be happy seeing more Thane content. And majority of thanemancers would be delighted.

One bright side of today events is emerging of two more people who support our efforts. Welcome Sparky and kevchy, thank you for your support.


This post is propably full of mistakes as I wrote it in serious rage mode...

Modifié par Vlk3, 27 juin 2012 - 08:46 .

[Renmiri1]

mnomaha wrote...

*hands up* GOAL!!!! Wow I think I got reported in that thread. LOL

O.o Where ? I wanna get reported too, I'm soo pissed at those tweets! 

[JECW]

@wildannie
That's were I'm at right now.
I just can't believe that they are still choosing to listen to bunch of people who dont' care about Thane and who aren't even that vocal. For some asinine reason their experience is more important than ours. We are the ones who did the romance and know this character better than anyone on BSN, and we are the ones who have to suffer. They don't seem to care about that. They just care about the few people who want him to stay dead.

[Moira-chan]

that tully reacts like that hurted...before he really seemed to be the only one listening...but know i really lost any hope and got the feeling i cannot take this anymore