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#13801
Roxy

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Sorry for double post but I'm curious where do you get the program where you can recruit Thane a little early in the game? Thanks! Posted Image

Nevermind found it! :)

Modifié par Roxy, 25 juillet 2012 - 10:38 .


#13802
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The writer for DA2 is Jennifer Hepler. Wonder if she is related to Chris. In any case, she is a good writer, he isn't.
http://dragonage.wik...Jennifer_Hepler

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JECW wrote...

The man who wrote his LotSB letter didn't seem to have to much trouble getting into Thane's head. I'm sure he did some research even if there wasn't much, but I think it helped that he also had a girlfriend who did the romance. He probably got a lot of ideas from her, and even though it was just a letter you can see the effort put into it.

It just feels like his ME3 writer didn't even try.


Fiery Phoenix wrote...

The love letter from LOTSB was written by Jay Watamaniuk, after consulting his girlfriend who herself is a Thanemancer.

from here

I don't remember where this was stated though, probably the SDCC ME3 Panel Video?

You know, if he kept that up and wrote Thane in ME3 things could (or would) have been better.

Modifié par Vertigo_1, 25 juillet 2012 - 09:38 .


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It was in response to my own tweet to Patrick Weekes. We're talking over a year ago.

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RShara

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I's trying real hard to get chapter out. Thane keeps falling asleep. I hope no one minds...
I think that's normal for a badly injured person, yeah?

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BOOYAH!

Because I can - social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/343/index/13251987/55#13331893

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Seifer006 wrote...

BOOYAH!

Because I can - social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/343/index/13251987/55#13331893


:wub::wub::wub::wub::wub:

He is the best game composer ever!

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Renmiri1 wrote...

Seifer006 wrote...

BOOYAH!

Because I can - social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/343/index/13251987/55#13331893


:wub::wub::wub::wub::wub:

He is the best game composer ever!


I also went to VG LIVE (Jack Wall btw) at the Historic Chicago Theatre. Was awesome. They do all sorts of VG music

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Seifer006 wrote...

Renmiri1 wrote...

Seifer006 wrote...

BOOYAH!

Because I can - social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/343/index/13251987/55#13331893


:wub::wub::wub::wub::wub:

He is the best game composer ever!


I also went to VG LIVE (Jack Wall btw) at the Historic Chicago Theatre. Was awesome. They do all sorts of VG music


Me too, I live in Chicago and go every year :wub:

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Renmiri1 wrote...

Seifer006 wrote...

Renmiri1 wrote...

Seifer006 wrote...

BOOYAH!

Because I can - social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/343/index/13251987/55#13331893


:wub::wub::wub::wub::wub:

He is the best game composer ever!


I also went to VG LIVE (Jack Wall btw) at the Historic Chicago Theatre. Was awesome. They do all sorts of VG music


Me too, I live in Chicago and go every year :wub:


you ive in Chicago!!!!
man! that's awesome. I wish i did. Such good food. Great Pizza!!! Hot Women! and Great Events ie VG Live

#13811
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Ahem :innocent:

Chapter 23 ...sorta...

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Yay! That was a Great chapter,can't wait for the next! Posted Image

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So I watched the Comic Con panel and.....it doesnt seem like they are gonna do anything more with Thane period ;{ Why is there no hope!!? Oh n tht guy who calls himself a writer, ruining my beautiful Thane's character! Oh its times like these- nevermind not gonna finish tht sentence its not very paragon of me. (sigh) I just feel like we are beatin our heads on the wall....their never gonna listen. T.T I just want my Thane back. Now if you'll excuse me Im gonna go n cry myself to sleep;{

#13814
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Roxy wrote...

I couldn't finish Romance night Moira...I was crying through just about the whole chapter! Posted Image
Sorry ...but I did read the other story and I like it! I don't like that Firia,and I can't wait for Shepard to meet Thane! Posted Image


oooh i don't want to make ya cry roxy, i'm so sorry...just wanted to give us something for the romance night :(

thanks :) it's in progress of translation, but it will take some time^^

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Gracie92 wrote...

So I watched the Comic Con panel and.....it doesnt seem like they are gonna do anything more with Thane period ;{ Why is there no hope!!? Oh n tht guy who calls himself a writer, ruining my beautiful Thane's character! Oh its times like these- nevermind not gonna finish tht sentence its not very paragon of me. (sigh) I just feel like we are beatin our heads on the wall....their never gonna listen. T.T I just want my Thane back. Now if you'll excuse me Im gonna go n cry myself to sleep;{


It's becasue they're a bunch of batarian ******  people trying to defent their pride. It's hard to admit that they could do something much better.
I have no good words anymore about their disrespect for their fans as well as their own characters. That's how disenfranchised I've become with the direction they've taken *throws ME3 into the sea*. 


By the way since I noticed some of you talked about leaked scripts here are some of the intakes (Thane centered) from them:

Beta leaked script:

Kolyat has received word that, at the request of Donnel Udina, the Citadel Council will hold a critical vote in 24 hours that will abandon the hanar homeworld to the Reapers in the name of protecting other planets. He needs you to get to Udina, one way or the other. He brings in Kasumi (if alive) to help nab evidence from C-SEC headquarters he could use to blackmail Udina. You get in to C-SEC HQ, and finds the evidence being destroyed by a Cerberus double agent. Extracting the information from him, you discover that Udina is indoctrinated and will soon launch a coup d'état to overthrow the Citadel Council. You and Kolyat must now stop him through any means possible. Thane (if alive) is brought on board to assassinate Udina. Thane is weak from his disease, but is on heavy painkillers and determined to complete his last mission

You, Thane, and Kasumi take on heavy security measures on their way to the Council Chamber in the Citadel Tower. Thane and Kasumi's presence helps you get past various puzzle obstacles. A short but brutal fight with Cerberus conspirators ensues when you secure a vantage point to take the target down. When Udina makes his move, you are there to reveal his crimes in front of the Council. Udina reacts by signaling an army of hidden Cerberus forces. In the climactic showdown, Thane uses the last of his strength to take out Udina. You give Thane the last rites he is too weak to say for himself, and Thane dies, his species' debt to the hanar repaid.


Dialogues from beta script (Thane death scene):
1. ROMANCED:

Thane: {With a little difficulty.] Congratulations are in order. The Council has not been this united since... uhh.{Thane sinks to his knees. Shepard kneels by him.}
Shepard: What's wrong?
Thane:Kepral's. It's aggravated by... exertion.
Thane: I'm sorry, siha. I ran all the way here... couldn't let you fail. Thought I was being a hero.
Shepard:It's all right. Just catch your breath.
Thane:Doubtful. Oxygen transfer proteins aren't working. Your equivalent would be hemo-- {A coughing fit wracks Thane. Shepard helps out so he's lying in Shepard's arms.}--hemoglobin. Can't get oxygen from the air. Brain is starving.
Shepard:I'll get some medical help.
Thane:[Shakes head.] Don't go.
Shepard: Do you want me to see if I can find Kolyat for you?
Thane:No. But I have taken lives tonight to reach you. There is something I must do.
Shepard: Did I give you permission to die on me?
Thane: Don't make me laugh... breathing... is hard enough.
Shepard:You ran here in your condition? That's... that's suicide.
Thane:[CINEDESIGN: Small smile.] Last time we tried, it worked out. More importantly, I couldn't let you fail.{A coughing fit wracks Thane. Shepard helps out so he's lying in Shepard's arms.}Sorry. Shouldn't talk. Consumes more oxygen.
Shepard:I'll get some medical help.
Thane:I know all the experts on the Citadel. Ran diagnostics two weeks ago. I asked what they recommended at this late stage.They said, "spend time with your family."
Shepard:Looks like I'm all you've got.
Thane: I can think of no one better, siha.Your memory is not like mine, but perhaps you can keep me in it for a little while.
- Shepard: You're not an easy person to forget, Thane.

*additional romance related sentance
Shepard:For someone who just saved the Citadel Council, you seem to think people will forget you pretty fast.
Thane: Fame was the last thing on my mind. You were the first. Without you... well.

Thane:The moment will be soon. [Coughing fit.] I shouldn't have run. You did not even need me.
Shepard: You fought for something noble, Thane. As last moments go, it's not a bad one.
Thane:No... there is one I would prefer.[Thane memory flashback.] Fist slams the table. Shame at my cowardice, my fear. Atonement means nothing.Her hand touches mine. Her lips part and I tremble. "Thane, be alive with me tonight."
[His body relaxes. Shepard wipes her eyes. Maybe we see a tear, maybe we don't. The music tells us all we need to know.]
Shepard: Goodbye, Thane. Meet you across the sea.

2. FRIEND-ZONED :

Thane: {With a little difficulty.] Congratulations are in order. The Council has not been this united since... uhh.{Thane sinks to his knees. Shepard kneels by him.}
Shepard: What's wrong?
Thane: Kepral's. It's aggravated by... exertion. I'm sorry, Shepard. I ran across the Presidium to... to make it here in time. Tried a little heroism.
Shepard:It's all right. Just catch your breath.
Thane:Doubtful. Oxygen transfer proteins aren't working. Your equivalent would be hemo-- {A coughing fit wracks Thane. Shepard helps out so he's lying in Shepard's arms.}--hemoglobin. Can't get oxygen from the air. Brain is starving.
Shepard:I'll get some medical help.
Thane:[Shakes head.] Don't go.
Shepard: Do you want me to see if I can find Kolyat for you?
Thane:No. But I have taken lives tonight to reach you. There is something I must do.
Thane:The moment will be soon. [Coughing fit.] I shouldn't have run. You did not even need me.
Shepard: You fought for something noble, Thane. As last moments go, it's not a bad one.
Thane: I am at peace with that, Commander.There is something I must do before it gets worse. I must-- [Coughing fit.]Kalahira, mistress of inscrutable depths, I ask forgiveness. Kalahira, whose waves wear down stone and sand--{Thane goes into another coughing fit.}
Shepard: Kalahira, wash the sins from this worshipper and set him on the distant shore of the infinite spirit.
Thane: How did you know that?
Shepard: I had to say something if you didn't come back from Omega-4. I had the extranet and a couple nights to think.
Thane:[Coughs.] Say it for me.
Shepard:Kalahira, this one's heart is pure but beset by wickedness and contention.Guide him to where the traveler never tires, the lover never leaves, the hungry never starve. Guide him, Kalahira, and he will be a companion to you as he was to me.
{Thane's body relaxes. Shepard closes his eyes. The music tells us all we need to know.}
{We pan up and out and fade to black.}
Shepard:Goodbye, Thane.

Older leaked script:
There were couple added/different sentances to what was written/seen in beta leak:

 - You can beat this, Thane. Don't give up. (don't remember if this was in the game as well)

- I have family here that I must take care of, Shepard. I have neglected my son, and now he is self-destructive.
He may be safe from Reapers here, but I worry. If he dies -- when he dies -- I want him to know he has a loving father.
That means I must give things up for him. I'm sorry. (Thane's alternative anwser on investigate option - Can't you come with me?)

- I also noticed that there was a conversation between Liara and Shepard - since the conversation was half written I don't know the context but this is what the conversation was about (they forgot, huh):

You don't have to know someone for years to miss them once they're gone.

If I had to guess, I'd say he'd/she'd want you to move on.
I miss him/her, too.

One of a kind.
I'm sure (character) would appreciate the sentiment.
He/She must have known. There wasn't much you could hide from him/her.

Thane related sentance (Shepard): He meant a lot to me, Liara, even if we didn't know each other that long.
You're right. Wish we'd had more time together.

I wish Thane were here.


......so, that's it. If I find more of this gross sobbing stuff on my pc about the good ol' times when script was leaked I'll let you guys know.

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Roxy wrote...

Yay! That was a Great chapter,can't wait for the next! Posted Image


<3
(pssst review plz?)

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RShara wrote...

Roxy wrote...

Yay! That was a Great chapter,can't wait for the next! Posted Image


<3
(pssst review plz?)


Done! Posted Image
 
Hehe sorry It was almost 2 in the morning when I read that had to go to bed! Posted Image

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hahaha thanks, and no worries. I'm glad you liked it. I really struggled with that chapter, and the next one is going to be even harder ! O_O

#13819
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btw roxy for the cry, really...but the end there is a kind of happy end ^^' if it helps you

#13820
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@Rshara It's ok just take your time it turns out better when you take your time on a strory!

@Moira-chan I'll go take a look at it again I could'nt get to the end....but I will give it a try! ^_^

Btw what does Gracie92 mean up there with her Post? is there new Comic con footage of Bioware saying that they aren't doing anything to fix Thane? I'm getting upset here...they better not have! >:(

#13821
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no thats not...helper just said he wanted to write an assassin and so on and edi because he wanted to try in the humour section

btw. maybe you should skip how far as you came so you don't have the sad part again xD

Modifié par Moira-chan, 26 juillet 2012 - 06:11 .


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RShara wrote...

Roxy wrote...

Yay! That was a Great chapter,can't wait for the next! Posted Image


<3
(pssst review plz?)



Psssst......reviewed.Posted Image


So happy to have more......Posted Image

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Aello89 wrote...

You, Thane, and Kasumi take on heavy security measures on their way to the Council Chamber in the Citadel Tower. Thane and Kasumi's presence helps you get past various puzzle obstacles. A short but brutal fight with Cerberus conspirators ensues when you secure a vantage point to take the target down. When Udina makes his move, you are there to reveal his crimes in front of the Council. Udina reacts by signaling an army of hidden Cerberus forces. In the climactic showdown, Thane uses the last of his strength to take out Udina. You give Thane the last rites he is too weak to say for himself, and Thane dies, his species' debt to the hanar repaid.


Dialogues from beta script (Thane death scene):
1. ROMANCED:

Thane: {With a little difficulty.] Congratulations are in order. The Council has not been this united since... uhh.{Thane sinks to his knees. Shepard kneels by him.}
Shepard: What's wrong?
Thane:Kepral's. It's aggravated by... exertion.
Thane: I'm sorry, siha. I ran all the way here... couldn't let you fail. Thought I was being a hero.
Shepard:It's all right. Just catch your breath.
Thane:Doubtful. Oxygen transfer proteins aren't working. Your equivalent would be hemo-- {A coughing fit wracks Thane. Shepard helps out so he's lying in Shepard's arms.}--hemoglobin. Can't get oxygen from the air. Brain is starving.
Shepard:I'll get some medical help.
Thane:[Shakes head.] Don't go.
Shepard: Do you want me to see if I can find Kolyat for you?
Thane:No. But I have taken lives tonight to reach you. There is something I must do.
Shepard: Did I give you permission to die on me?
Thane: Don't make me laugh... breathing... is hard enough.
Shepard:You ran here in your condition? That's... that's suicide.
Thane:[CINEDESIGN: Small smile.] Last time we tried, it worked out. More importantly, I couldn't let you fail.{A coughing fit wracks Thane. Shepard helps out so he's lying in Shepard's arms.}Sorry. Shouldn't talk. Consumes more oxygen.
Shepard:I'll get some medical help.
Thane:I know all the experts on the Citadel. Ran diagnostics two weeks ago. I asked what they recommended at this late stage.They said, "spend time with your family."
Shepard:Looks like I'm all you've got.
Thane: I can think of no one better, siha.Your memory is not like mine, but perhaps you can keep me in it for a little while.
- Shepard: You're not an easy person to forget, Thane.

*additional romance related sentance
Shepard:For someone who just saved the Citadel Council, you seem to think people will forget you pretty fast.
Thane: Fame was the last thing on my mind. You were the first. Without you... well.

Thane:The moment will be soon. [Coughing fit.] I shouldn't have run. You did not even need me.
Shepard: You fought for something noble, Thane. As last moments go, it's not a bad one.
Thane:No... there is one I would prefer.[Thane memory flashback.] Fist slams the table. Shame at my cowardice, my fear. Atonement means nothing.Her hand touches mine. Her lips part and I tremble. "Thane, be alive with me tonight."
[His body relaxes. Shepard wipes her eyes. Maybe we see a tear, maybe we don't. The music tells us all we need to know.]
Shepard: Goodbye, Thane. Meet you across the sea.

Thank you for posting this. It tears me apart whenever I'm reminded of what could have been. The dialogue is absolutely beautiful.

#13824
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@ Moira   Ah okay I felt like I was about to have break down lol...thanks for clearing that up for me Moira! ^_^

I read it again...I still cried lol....but I'm not saying it was bad, I'm just one of those happily ever after kind of girls ya know! :)

Modifié par Roxy, 26 juillet 2012 - 06:36 .


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coldwetn0se wrote...

RShara wrote...

Roxy wrote...

Yay! That was a Great chapter,can't wait for the next! Posted Image


<3
(pssst review plz?)



Psssst......reviewed.Posted Image


So happy to have more......Posted Image


<3 I hope you liked it :)