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Emeraldfern

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@Squee

I know what you're saying, and I'm, tbh torn on this issue.

I'll wait I guess, but I do have an obnoxious older brother going:

"I wanna play Leviathan with my Xbox-saves*. Plz sis? I'll do X favor! Plz?"

*Sigh* At the rate he's going, it's probably going to end up being paid 50-50 by us.

*/ He has his canon Shep on myXbox + some other playthroughs too.

Ok now I do gotta go to that bus, toodles! :)

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@Emerald: It's a tricky subject, especially without the full knowledge of what is going on with BioWare, it's hard to determine what the problem is.

My bro is the same way and there is me who knows bettter. This is also a tricky situation. So I am trying to do the research to talk him out of it, for his and my own sake. But in the end, you and I both know how I may have to give in to buying it.

Ugh, the bus... what a drag.

Modifié par Squeegee83, 04 septembre 2012 - 05:27 .


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It is a bit of a vicious cycle, obviously they need money to justify more DLC but there's no way dissatisfied customers should be buying their products in the hope that they fix the game. Bioware need to decide whether their customers are worth putting out another 'loss leader' like the EC to entice disgruntled fans back into the fold.

If they made a dlc that addressed the issues with the ME2 squad (cure for Thane, Jacob not cheating, more dialog with Miranda, Jack etc) it would cost them a lot to make. I think it would sell well, but not enough to make it a profitable venture (by the standard of greed they seem to work from). However it would undoubtedly increase sales of other DLC and provide a boost in numbers playing the game that would probably spill over into MP too. It would also give some a reason to pre-order, or buy new their next release.

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....okay fine. If bioware fixes Thane and Jacob...I will play MP.

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mnomaha

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Ahhhh K-Laine...gotta love her!

http://k-laine.devia...thane-325174599

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It's like hopping on a Merry-Go-Round from hell, it never comes to an end.

Kinda think of me as one of those "The more you know" ads we see here in America.

A few years ago I worked for a dying company and here are a few things I learned:

1. They will never admit that they were wrong in any decisions that they made.
2. In a desperate attempt, they will appeal to the majority. However, this attempt will be a quick patch up job.
3. Simply because the minority seems mad, doesn't mean they will care. The majority will always rule out the rest. The profit that could be made on the minority weighs less than the majority.
4. Deny everything. There were times we had to even lie to our consumers.
5. Misdirect any questions on any failures of the company.
6. Sell all current promotions, products, programs.
7. Remain positive.

Who do I sound like? Yeah... 

Modifié par Squeegee83, 04 septembre 2012 - 10:03 .


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Plus EA is potentially looking at becoming a private company again as their current model of gaming isn't exactly bringing in huge cash. When everything can be found online for free (usually), gamers are fickle, especially when it comes to MMOs. So, they have to go free-to-play to get ppl interested. And as many copies of console games they sell, it still doesn't compare to a model where you have subscription based income every month.
I haven't purchased Leviathan and to be honest it doesn't particularly interest me. And that doesn't even have anything to do with Thane. It just seems mediocre. If it was LoTSB awesome, I'd buy it.

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Squeegee83 wrote...

It's like hopping on a Merry-Go-Round from hell, it never comes to an end.

Kinda think of me as one of those "The more you know" ads we see here in America.

A few years ago I worked for a dying company and here are a few things I learned:

1. They will never admit that they were wrong in any decisions that they made.
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Allow me to have at this particular point.

While it is well within possibility the company as a whole will never admit an apparent shortcoming, this CAN happen if a specific individual from said company leaves and is free from the company a few years after the project in question. In that case, you can expect such a thing to happen. Only difference is it would be the word of a former employee and as such not representative of the company or its associates (although that doesn't mean much from a consumer's point of view). This has actually happened quite a few times in the past.

Modifié par Fiery Phoenix, 04 septembre 2012 - 05:40 .


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mnomaha wrote...

....okay fine. If bioware fixes Thane and Jacob...I will play MP.


I fully believe at this point that the writiers are bound and determined to destroy Jacob Taylor. He had a great backstory, but was hardly developed in ME2 and was made even worse in ME3.

And as far as that poll goes, hardest question for me was Fav. Male Voice Actor... I think I gave it to Robin Sachs (Zaeed), but Keneer and Barr were SOOOOO good as well.

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Hyrule_Gal wrote...

*Phew* Finally finished a Mass Effect  rap video I was busy working on. It was a lot of hard work! I thought I'd share it with you guys since it stars the ME2 crew. Really hoping you enjoy the thane part of it ^_^ I know I did.

Mass Effect- hustlin'

If you could spare a like or comment that would be fantastic Image IPB


This was excellent... Esp. with Mordin doing the 1st verse. Image IPB

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Oh the favorite voice actor was easy for me...Seth Green. Always. Speaking of Zaeed, daughter was watching Buffy earlier and Sachs does cameos now and then as Ethan Rayne. I yelled out, "Zaeed." She's watching the episode "Him" right now and Keener is in that one.

As for Leviathan, I'm firmly locked into 'maybe'. The maybe is dependent upon if I ever want to play ME3 again. If they came out tomorrow and said, "we will do more DLC if you all buy Leviathan", I'm sorry but I'd still be in the 'maybe'. I was burned when I bought ME3. Why would I continue to fuel the same fire that burned me before? I know what I want in the game and Leviathan isn't it.

And Shell you are a lot braver than I, even if they fixed Thane and Jacob I would still avoid MP like the plague.

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LanceSolous13

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Watch Leviathan on YouTube before buying. I watched 20 mins and really liked it.

The ending, however, really takes a crap on destroy.

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@Lance did you get it?

I like Leviathan..though I feel that if I get it I'd be a traitor! I've said over and over not getting anything from BW until they fix the mess they made with Thane!

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LanceSolous13

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I got it. I like the missions and everything. The detail is fantastic and really shines like ME3 should have. Diamond in the Rough indeed.

But the ending bugs the crap out of me. Espicially when there's not closure to it.

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I have watched it on Youtube like.....3 times already lol! It is a Diamond in the rough and ....why did this DLC have to be so darn tempting! >:P

I agree the ending...is not that great...it seems that they really like the synthesis ending a little to much! Also in a way that DLC kinda makes you think...is Leviathan going to be our next enemy if there is gonna be future Mass effect game?

Modifié par Roxy, 05 septembre 2012 - 02:32 .


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mnomaha

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utaker1988 wrote...

Oh the favorite voice actor was easy for me...Seth Green. Always. Speaking of Zaeed, daughter was watching Buffy earlier and Sachs does cameos now and then as Ethan Rayne. I yelled out, "Zaeed." She's watching the episode "Him" right now and Keener is in that one.

As for Leviathan, I'm firmly locked into 'maybe'. The maybe is dependent upon if I ever want to play ME3 again. If they came out tomorrow and said, "we will do more DLC if you all buy Leviathan", I'm sorry but I'd still be in the 'maybe'. I was burned when I bought ME3. Why would I continue to fuel the same fire that burned me before? I know what I want in the game and Leviathan isn't it.

And Shell you are a lot braver than I, even if they fixed Thane and Jacob I would still avoid MP like the plague.


Yeah, the fire analogy suits. I got burned so bad I'm consoling myself with facebook games. Which is sad, because I prefer them (free) over ME3 ($130).

As for the MP...You and I will play and amaze the masses with our MP suckiness! Image IPB

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I am guilty of the facebook games too. Especially the games that end with Wars.... I get some satisfaction out of making people whine and cry in a virtual game. Oh yeah, MP...I cannot play that on PC. I truly am better with the xbox controller. Which I cannot play ME3 on xbox because the disc drive is broken, it makes big scratches in discs. I found out when it destroyed my ME3 disc (disc 1), I didn't even cry. I laughed and said, "it couldn't have happened to a better game." Bah ha ha! I don't see myself replacing the xbox until well after xmas.

So now I just use to watch netflix, hulu, and some other video services. I watched Firefly last week and now I'm watching Caprica again.

I say we go into MP, enter a serious room and play like fools. Then laugh when they start yelling and boot us out. Some people take it way too serious.

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*Strolls by the Thane thread, dressed in a Red Cloak, with a basket of cookies, bottles of Gin, and a couple package of Twizzlers......enjoy.* <evilsmirk>






























for old timey-sake ----------> *ridges*

#14844
LanceSolous13

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...Are you sure those are actually Twizzlers. *smerk*

#14845
Emeraldfern

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*Raises eyebrow*

Did someone say <ridges>?

Hmm...best be prepared for the hallucinations then, amirite? :3

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coldwetn0se

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*eyebrow waggle* ;)

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*looks up from being hunched over a pile of "twizzlers"*

Prescioussssss <ridgessssssss>

*tears a twizzler apart with her teeth golem-and-fish-style* (though what else you would tear a twizzler apart with I have no idea).

(WTF, I'm channelling Golem now? How did that happen?)

#14848
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errrrr....i don't even know where to begin...

@utaker...*looks guilty* I think I've sent you a few invites. Chef Ville? I'm an awesome neighbor. :) As for the MP...well, you're on Xbox and I'm on pc...we could ruin games on both fronts! Mwahahahahahaah*coughgaspcough* ****.

Cookies and twizzlers from Little Cold...wet..I better stop. Wub U!!!

Mmmmm twizzlers...gimme a green one!

I'm hallucinating...so not exactly sure if this is a twizzler or not. hehe *insert crude twinkie comment*

Uh, Myth...WTF? Get Golum outta here! He'll scare the precious.

#14849
mythlover20

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*Thane shoots Golum, drags his corpse across the Normandy, and air locks it*

Uh, Shell, what was that you said about him scaring the precious? Our precious is much tougher than that.

*faint dying sound*

But... the... the preciousssssssssss......... <ridgessssssssss>!

Eh, well, now that Golum's gone the <ridges> are all mine now!!!!!!! Mwahahahahahahaha!!!!!

....

Oh, fine. I'll share. Here, have some <ridges> to brighten your work day. It's been about a week and five pages since this was up.

http://desona.devian...llery/#/d5byk4a

Modifié par mythlover20, 05 septembre 2012 - 05:27 .


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Fiery Phoenix wrote...

Allow me to have at this particular point.

While it is well within possibility the company as a whole will never admit an apparent shortcoming, this CAN happen if a specific individual from said company leaves and is free from the company a few years after the project in question. In that case, you can expect such a thing to happen. Only difference is it would be the word of a former employee and as such not representative of the company or its associates (although that doesn't mean much from a consumer's point of view). This has actually happened quite a few times in the past.


This is very true. Since I left my company, I speak freely on how/why they died. Also too, if anyone searches deep enough, they will come across Thane's original writer pointing out a few mistakes that BioWare made in a forum on another site. His comments helped me understand BioWare a bit more, but I can't use it towards an active company. If Bioware was to die, it would take us a few years and a documentary to learn why.

No matter how much we may want to believe we know what is going on with a company, we don't. Everyone is certainly in their right to be mad and not to support BioWare currently, but this is when the downward spiral begins.


@Cosmo: I've heard the same thing, however I hope they choose to start off with a fresh start instead. Going private will not solve their problems.