giftfish wrote...
GT Zazzerka wrote...
If I may, the "short changing" that person is referring to is the fact that there isn't a massive difference between the romanced and un-romanced Liara dialogue. There's a bit more touching, and you obviously get the sex scene, but she's constantly calling you a "good friend" and using the same dialogue with you as she would a player who hasn't romanced her.
So the main problem people have isn't that there is a lack of Liara, it's that there's not a huge amount of romance-specific Liara.
This came up a lot on the survey comments, but in 2 interesting forms --
1. The constant "friend-zoning" by Liara of a Shep that she is romancing
2. The people that don't want to romance Liara constantly felt like she was still all over their Shepard.
In both cases, I think it results from a lack of difference between LI- and friend-specific dialogue, which was a very popular comment when it came to all LIs, but especially Liara. Players were pissed at both 1 and 2 above.
We all want BioWare to include more story-content with the LIs. The fact that some LIs already have more content, doesn't mean that they don't want more, and doesn't mean that they don't have a right (just like us Thane fans) TO want more.
More for everyone = win.
Oh, and Sable wrote todays Focus Friday on the blog! My schedule is super-wonky for the next few weeks, but I should be back with anotehr discussion about survey results next week 
Sorry Giftfish I thought my above comment was attempting to say that. For all LIs in ME3 there was very little difference for how they reacted and were handled. ALL of 'em got shoe horned into a streamlined single arch, with most the same reactions by both the characters and Shepard/Player.
ME3 took and tossed aside almost everything that made it great it was OUR Story, MY Story was Mine, And Not the Same as YOURS, or THIERS. But then ME3 came along and it was all shoved into this single form with a direct path. ME1 and ME2 were like a lake that branched off into several rivers and streams.
ME3 was just one giant lake a single pool with no rivers and streams, everyone's story was almost exactly the same and very little diference.
Look at Thane LI and friend Thane very little differnc in the way they were handled. Hell lets say no real differnce at all.
Jacob. Same thing he cheats and is a total jerk no matter what. He has a very hostile tone at least I felt he did to my Shep.
Jack, a few kisses and a few different lines.
Miranda very little differnce.
Tali, um a picture
Garrus idk didn't romance Garrus (I got only a dude Shep), but he sounds like he got the best of the treatment of the LIs for females.
Hell the same can probably be said for all the ME cast, Mordin, Legion, Grunt, Wrex, Zaeed, Kasumi, and Samara they don't change at all no matter what. Player reaction is the same and the characters hardly change to how the player got along with them.
As I've said ME3 threw away what the series was built upon, that ME Was YOUR STORY, and MY Story wouldn't be the same as Squeegees, or Mnomaha, or Dine, or Utaker, or Warlock, or anyone.
ME3 shoehorned players into the developers and ME3 teams own version of the story, which meant their cannon choices were the only ones that mattered. Hence Liara being thrown at players so much either by having to reafirm the relationship status or Liara being a creepy stalker with a massive obsession. Her creepyness went over board and too far, and that's saying alot considering her appartment in LotSB.
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