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[Shepenwepet]

Enmystic wrote...

If it involves curing the Drell I would want it to make the player think really hard.  Something like the decision to either rewrite or destroy the heretic Geth.  The kind of decision where whether or not what you did was right is arguable.

I want all decisions to be like this. No blue/red text, either, as I tend to always go for the paragon choice with very little thought. Four times out of five I rewrote the geth, just because I felt that destroying them was the "bad" choice, when in reality there's no right or wrong there.

Until ME3.

[RGC_Ines]

JECWSU wrote...
Thanks for the link.
I know marraige isn't for everyone, and some people may not want that option for their Shepards. I wouldn't mind though. My shepard that's with Garrus probably won't marry, and Garrus doesn't seem like the marrying kind anyway. I could definitely see Thane wanting to marry Shepard though.
At this point I'm just hoping that Thane has a future.

Happy to help. About marriage...Im not sure. I like romance things in my games, including marriage, but it depends on PC Im  playing...In Baldur's Gate it was easy for my elven female to marry Tsujatha and I felt it's natural. In DA:O I played with excellent mod Ser Gilmore NPC and it was also very easy to pair my Cousland with him and start a " familly" while my elven female prefered " open relationship" with him ( maybe the fact that I always thought that Rory should be LI for Fem Cousland helped in Human Noble Origin). About Shepard...well...It's hard to imiagine her married...Maybe with Spacer Origin? My Earthborn Survivor don't value " marriage" too much, plus it's this Shepard " loyal" to Kaidan. Im even not sure if I would continue theirs relationship in ME3, becouse I don't feel too good with Kaidan after ME2 ( well I think he is unloyal to woman he loved), so I can't think about wedding here. My Spacer War Hero is carier woman, don't know if marriage will fit into this character, even I would be happy to have future with Thane for her. I think, that marriage would be good option for my Colonist Shepard.

About choices..as it's last part of  Trilogy I hope that this time my choices will be important, and I will not have chance to avoid consequences  with Paragon/Renegade options. It was too easy in ME2 i.e in Zaeed LM. I chosed to help workers and I shouldn't  be able to get Zaeed loyality, but with high enough paragon points I could fix everything...so my choice in this mission meant nothing at the end.

Modifié par RGC_Ines, 24 septembre 2011 - 07:13 .

[Shepenwepet]

RGC_Ines wrote...


About choices..as it's last part of  Trilogy I hope that this time my choices will be important

I'm sure they will be, as will past decisions. We never got to see the consequences of early choices like sparing the Rachni Queen, and this is their last chance to show it.

My only concern is that if past decisions are important, we may have to go back and play two other games to get the ending we want in the third. A lot of us spared the Rachni Queen, what if that's bad? All my saves have her spared. 

Unless they're planning another Genesis-like intro, in which case disregard most of this.

[Kathleen321]

Shepenwepet wrote...

RGC_Ines wrote...


About choices..as it's last part of  Trilogy I hope that this time my choices will be important

I'm sure they will be, as will past decisions. We never got to see the consequences of early choices like sparing the Rachni Queen, and this is their last chance to show it.

My only concern is that if past decisions are important, we may have to go back and play two other games to get the ending we want in the third. A lot of us spared the Rachni Queen, what if that's bad? All my saves have her spared. 

Unless they're planning another Genesis-like intro, in which case disregard most of this.

Having to replay is exactly what I am worried about. I really want to stick by my Cannon Shepards desicions. But then again, maybe I will just have to live with the negative consequences since I played my first game wanting to make my own decisions based on my own morality and not what will help me "win" the game. I am a bit worried, but at the same time i find it exciting that it is truly up to us whether we survive in the end or not. That is what makes this game so unique. And that is what makes this game my favorite! 

[Drone223]

I like Thane he gives a lot if insite into Drell perspective of the universe and also combat wise, he has proberly the best romances in ME2 for a squadmate since its like a Greek tragedy, the brave commander and her dying lover, I always enjoy romance in ME for the emotional value which is what his romance is built on. The ME3 Thane romance should be exactly like the ME2 romance about making the most of the time with him and possibly finding a cure for his KS

[Zakatak757]

I think if you continue being in Romance with Thane in ME3, and Kolyat turns to a life of peace, I think Thane will be willing to find a cure.

[Shepenwepet]

Hopefully the only thing that influences Thane's future is his loyalty mission. Having his romance tied to his survival instantly prevents at least half of all players - male Shepards - from saving him. I can see that not going over well with fans.

[Lucky Thirteen]

Drone223 wrote...
 The ME3 Thane romance should be exactly like the ME2 romance about making the most of the time with him....

Exactly one of the reasons I love Thane's romance. They reality is either of them can die from anything at anytime, they both live very dangerous lives and some stray bullet or blast of plasma can take them out in a blink of an eye.

What is important is the time they have together while alive. Live for today because tomarrow may not come. If the unspeakable happens, it should be the good, loving memories that will stick with Shepard to counter the negative fact he is gone. 

Shepenwepet wrote...

Hopefully the only thing that influences Thane's future is his loyalty mission. Having his romance tied to his survival instantly prevents at least half of all players - male Shepards - from saving him. I can see that not going over well with fans.

Agreed. It's something I've expressed disliking in the past. Disadvantage to players and giving special treatment to others. Being that I've experienced it in another game, it just has never settled well with me.

[Enmystic]

Lucky Thirteen wrote...

Drone223 wrote...
 The ME3 Thane romance should be exactly like the ME2 romance about making the most of the time with him....

Exactly one of the reasons I love Thane's romance. They reality is either of them can die from anything at anytime, they both live very dangerous lives and some stray bullet or blast of plasma can take them out in a blink of an eye.

What is important is the time they have together while alive. Live for today because tomarrow may not come. If the unspeakable happens, it should be the good, loving memories that will stick with Shepard to counter the negative fact he is gone.

A tomorrow is what everyone is fighting for.  Hopefully they can see it together.

Lucky Thirteen wrote...

Shepenwepet wrote...

Hopefully the only thing that influences Thane's future is his loyalty mission. Having his romance tied to his survival instantly prevents at least half of all players - male Shepards - from saving him. I can see that not going over well with fans.

Agreed. It's something I've expressed disliking in the past. Disadvantage to players and giving special treatment to others. Being that I've experienced it in another game, it just has never settled well with me.

Third.  I've seen male players who want to save Thane as much as female players.  Completing his loyalty mission should be enough to open up the option in ME3.

[RGC_Ines]

Shepenwepet wrote...

Hopefully the only thing that influences Thane's future is his loyalty mission. Having his romance tied to his survival instantly prevents at least half of all players - male Shepards - from saving him. I can see that not going over well with fans.

Agree. It would be unfoair for male players who like Thane to lost him becouse lack of romance. This same for female players who didn't romance Thane, but value him as a companion. I think, that chance for rebuild relationship with Kolyat will be good enough reason for Thane to stay alive.

[JECWSU]

They have said that if he survived ME2 then we will see him in ME3. We just don't know if he will be on our squad or how long we are going to see him. We really don't know anything else. I wish they would tell us something.

[JECWSU]

I made sure he survived every one of my playthroughs.

No they don't talk about him, or anyone from ME2 really. I really hope they haven't forgotten about us.

[Shepenwepet]

I don't know what else they can say other than "he's in ME3," which they already have.

Since they've said that the core squad is smaller, (if there even IS a core squad) more squadmate reveals could just irk fans who wanted Squadmate C instead of Squadmate B, and BSN could explode with people "cancelling pre-orders" and such. (Really, who does that?)

If Thane ends up not a squadmember, you know what? I'm fine with that, provided he gets to kick about on the Normandy and have long philosophical and spiritual discussions with Shepard... if ever she has any downtime. There needs to be a sense of urgency in ME3, hopefully there'll be enough time to plausibly chat with your crew.

[Lucky Thirteen]

Enmystic wrote...

Lucky Thirteen wrote...

Exactly one of the reasons I love Thane's romance. They reality is either of them can die from anything at anytime, they both live very dangerous lives and some stray bullet or blast of plasma can take them out in a blink of an eye.

What is important is the time they have together while alive. Live for today because tomarrow may not come. If the unspeakable happens, it should be the good, loving memories that will stick with Shepard to counter the negative fact he is gone.

A tomorrow is what everyone is fighting for.  Hopefully they can see it together.

Hopefully they can, but I'm one of those glass half empty types. I don't want to set my expectations too high that he will be cured/survive and be horriably disapointed when he's not.

I think that when you enter a relationship with someone you know is dying, you should expect they will die and don't hang on the hope that they won't. That becomes too much of unrealistic thinking if you hold on to that hope they will somehow be cured and you shouldn't have entered the relationship in the first place. Part of you always will hope because you naturally love them, but if you let it get too much control of you it will become all the more harder when they do pass. This is fiction however, Sci-Fi, so really they can do anything with Thane. Again, I'm just a glass half empty person.

A person like Thane I would think wouldn't want Shepard's life destroyed when he made clear from the start he wasn't long for the world.  It would seem unfair and he would want Shepard to move on without him, just like he eventually moved on from the death of his wife and fell in love with Shepard. He writes that farewell letter for Shepard to see after he is gone, but he calls it selfish for wanting to leave something on her that will never fade. Then he goes on to say:

"I was content to simply watch, take the time left given and praise all I know for allowing me to walk my final days with hope and certainty that I am worthy of more than my cold isolation, solely because you believed."

That I feel is the reality of such relationships, and people in the real world do go through that a lot. They make the most of the life they have left, make it good and happy and all that jazz till that very last day.

In the case of Thane and Shepard, they are doing what they do best, fighting bad guys and saving the galaxy till the last day. As Thane said, he wants to leave the galaxy a brighter place before he goes, and Shepard is certainly helping him do that. They just have some good old romance on the side of all that, to strengthen and comfort each other in the fight. Also to make everything just a tad more brighter than he expected.

Though if there is a tomarrow for Thane and Shepard, I will be very very very very very happy.

Modifié par Lucky Thirteen, 25 septembre 2011 - 04:36 .

[JECWSU]

Shepenwepet wrote...

If Thane ends up not a squadmember, you know what? I'm fine with that, provided he gets to kick about on the Normandy and have long philosophical and spiritual discussions with Shepard... if ever she has any downtime. There needs to be a sense of urgency in ME3, hopefully there'll be enough time to plausibly chat with your crew.

There is absolutely no reason for Thane to be on the Normandy doing nothing. It doesn't really make sense for a skilled assasin to be sitting around the ship just waiting for Shepard to come and talk. If he's not on our squad I highly doubt he is just going to be on the ship. He would probably be with his son, or maybe getting some kind of treatment. I don't mind him being on the ship if that's how they choose to do it, but I doubt that would happen.

Modifié par JECWSU, 25 septembre 2011 - 05:29 .

[Kathleen321]

JECWSU wrote...

Shepenwepet wrote...

If Thane ends up not a squadmember, you know what? I'm fine with that, provided he gets to kick about on the Normandy and have long philosophical and spiritual discussions with Shepard... if ever she has any downtime. There needs to be a sense of urgency in ME3, hopefully there'll be enough time to plausibly chat with your crew.

There is absolutely no reason for Thane to be on the Normandy doing nothing. It doesn't really make sense for a skilled assasin to be sitting around the ship just waiting for Shepard to come and talk. If he's not on our squad I highly doubt he is just going to be on the ship. He would probably be with his son, or maybe getting some kind of treatment. I don't mind him being on the ship if that's how they choose to do it, but I doubt that would happen.

Good point. That would be strange if he was just sitting there enjoying the ride. 

[RGC_Ines]

Shepenwepet wrote...
If Thane ends up not a squadmember, you know what? I'm fine with that, provided he gets to kick about on the Normandy and have long philosophical and spiritual discussions with Shepard... if ever she has any downtime. There needs to be a sense of urgency in ME3, hopefully there'll be enough time to plausibly chat with your crew.

Can agree with You, but only if I will be able to stay in contact with Thane in ME3. I remember similar situation before ME2 relase with Kaidan. Devs said, that he will be not companion this time, but we will see him and we will be able to stay in contact with him via mails. So I thought..umm..OK, my Shep will not have her LI around this time, but if I can be in contact with him then OK..And quess what? All promises ended as  a pathetic few minuts on Horizon and one mail, I even can't answer, and made clear  a " relationship stage" between my Sheps & Kaidan ( that's why I hate all talks about " cheating"). Maybe this time things will be different..

[Lucky Thirteen]

Kathleen321 wrote...

JECWSU wrote...

Shepenwepet wrote...

If Thane ends up not a squadmember, you know what? I'm fine with that, provided he gets to kick about on the Normandy and have long philosophical and spiritual discussions with Shepard... if ever she has any downtime. There needs to be a sense of urgency in ME3, hopefully there'll be enough time to plausibly chat with your crew.

There is absolutely no reason for Thane to be on the Normandy doing nothing. It doesn't really make sense for a skilled assasin to be sitting around the ship just waiting for Shepard to come and talk. If he's not on our squad I highly doubt he is just going to be on the ship. He would probably be with his son, or maybe getting some kind of treatment. I don't mind him being on the ship if that's how they choose to do it, but I doubt that would happen.

Good point. That would be strange if he was just sitting there enjoying the ride. 

Better question:  Why would he not want to be around in all the action? He is a dying man that doesn't want to lie down and rest until he actually dies. When his health starts to really take a turn for a worse, I imagine it will be really difficult for Shepard to get him to stop and rest.

He just seems stubborn and prideful in that aspect. Thinking it will never interfere with his skill and not wanting to be useless because of it.

[RGC_Ines]

LiveLoveThaneKrios wrote...

If they do have a Horizon with Thane.. I will be a really angry person and sacrifice the game to the game gods. I wouldnt really care if you could send vuia e-mails to Thane, and recieve some back. But I would rather see him so I could talk with him and stuff 
But anyways, I do also think it would be rather stupid to have Thane .. a very skilled assassain just sitting around.. waiting for Shepard to be done with her missions to speak with him. If by all means does happen, I won't be doing any missions. I'll be to busy talking with Thane all the time , so that wouldn't be very helpful to the galaxy much

I don't need mails to Thane..I just wanted to show, how seriously where " cameos" done in ME2 and Devs promises weren't true. and that I had my hopes too high. This is why Im little pesimistic..I don't want to be dissapoitment again.
Anyway I would be happy if Thane would be permanent companion in ME3. To be honest I don't need new companions, I think that old ones would be enough..but I see how it could be not confortable for new players. And for Thane being on Normandy board don't mean sitting and waiting..He would be always in my squad doing things..and after missions he would have work too..

Ach..and about " unloyality" to ME1 LI..Do You think, that Shepard told Thane about Kaidan..How You imagine relations between Kaidan & Thane ? I don't  want fight over Shepard . .

[Lucky Thirteen]

RGC_Ines wrote...

Ach..and about " unloyality" to ME1 LI..Do You think, that Shepard told Thane about Kaidan..How You imagine relations between Kaidan & Thane ? I don't  want fight over Shepard . .

I havn't created a Shepard like that, but I certainly hope there isn't a big fight. I hope they are like, explain this Shepard? Please?

Kaidan and Thane are too level headed to start an all out biotic smack down over Shepard. Then again, maybe they'll have a few verbal shots at each other here and there.

[Shepenwepet]

JECWSU wrote...
There is absolutely no reason for Thane to be on the Normandy doing nothing. It doesn't really make sense for a skilled assasin to be sitting around the ship just waiting for Shepard to come and talk. If he's not on our squad I highly doubt he is just going to be on the ship. He would probably be with his son, or maybe getting some kind of treatment. I don't mind him being on the ship if that's how they choose to do it, but I doubt that would happen.

Completely true, and yet, in many people's games, this happens.
I'm sure he'll have some use, even if it's just using his network of contacts for information/equipment. Sure, we have the Shadow Broker for that, but a little redundancy never hurt anyone.
I know he is advised to keep active, but until we know the actual timeline of ME3, we don't know if this is possible. Plus, the Normandy has a medbay, if there's a cure/treatment, I'd rather him not wait around on rainy Kahje for it, provided we have someone who is familiar with Drell who can administer said cure. Chakwas, get out your textbooks.
And about staying with Kolyat...I think Thane wants to patch things up, but I don't think Kolyat is ready for that. I've got my money on e-mails back and forth.