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[EternalSea]

I'd imagine Thane to be actually helping in the war, covert or infiltrating probably. Whether he does "inevitably" die or not.

[Shepenwepet]

@EternalSea  If he's able to, sure. It would certainly be hard to convince him to do otherwise, as others have said.

If he's not able to, I want him on the Normandy. Rather selfish to have him recuperate on a ship that has a huge target on its back, but there it is.



Let's think happy thoughts, shall we? Anyone here play Boggle? Where you make words from a random grid of letters? I call this screen capture from a several month old game of Boggle "It Should Be."



....look, when there's no news, I get bored and post things like this.

[Verly]

you could have spelled "Thane" too. lol

[Cosmochyck]

What about Tali?

[JECWSU]

RGC_Ines wrote...

Ach..and about " unloyality" to ME1 LI..Do You think, that Shepard told Thane about Kaidan..How You imagine relations between Kaidan & Thane ? I don't  want fight over Shepard . .

I do have one playthrough where my Shepard left Kaidan for Thane. I am very interested to see what happens. I don't know if Shepard had told Thane about Kaidan. When Thane comes up to your cabin the picture is already down. I'm guessing probably not. Maybe Thane has heard people talking around the ship, and he may have heard what happened on Horizon. So he might know, but I don't think Shepard has said anything yet. They are saving that for ME3.

I doubt they will get into a fight. Thane doesn't really seem like that kind of person and neither does Kaidan. There might be more drama with the confrontation with Garrus, because Kaidan and Garrus know each other. I guess we will have to wait and see.

Modifié par JECWSU, 25 septembre 2011 - 11:45 .

[Zakatak757]

I used "Siha" when playing Scrabble once. They asked what it meant. I repeated what Thane told me. They let it slide.

BOOYAH!

[Enmystic]

Lucky Thirteen wrote...

Enmystic wrote...

A tomorrow is what everyone is fighting for.  Hopefully they can see it together.

*snip long post*

I guess that's where we differ.  I see the glass half-full. 

Life is for the living.  I don't like to see Thane dwelling on his mortality, no matter how bleak it is, because that's not what gets you a tomorrow.  Shepard has the opportunity to show Thane that he's worth something, a lot if you romance him.  If he dies someone will miss him and he shouldn't throw his life away because he messed up. 

To me it's not unrealistic to have hope for the better.  If you give up hope then what do you have left?
I'm not going to give up on the possibility of Thane living just because he's dying.  Setting you expectations too high is foolish, but simply expecting someone to die can be just as bad.  Life is full of disappointment, but that shouldn't stop anyone from hoping because sometimes you do get a break. 

I admit I always get a little angry when someone says "you shouldn't have gotten into the relationship in the first place" because you don't want that person to die.  It's a weak argument to me.

I have no problem with Thane want to make the galaxy a better place.  I understood his feelings in the letter.  I understand that either of them can die.  If Thane dies, Shepard is going to hurt.  I understand that reality, but that shouldn't stop Shepard from finding a way.  At the very least I want to extend Thane's life. 

The longer Thane lives the more time he has to make up for his mistakes, to mend his relationship with Kolyat, and to continue making happier memories with Shepard even if their overall situation is not that great.  Believe me, an ending where Thane gets to see that desert, expresses that he's truly happy, and that Shepard truly made a difference in his life, good or bad end, would make me cry more than anything.

Don't forget.  If you can help Thane then you can help the other Drell who suffer as well.

Anyway, onto happier things!

[Takotna]

@LiveLove- Don't worry you're not the only one the yells at game chars/npcs =P

[Lucky Thirteen]

Enmystic wrote...I guess that's where we differ.  I see the glass half-full. 

Life is for the living.  I don't like to see Thane dwelling on his mortality, no matter how bleak it is, because that's not what gets you a tomorrow.  Shepard has the opportunity to show Thane that he's worth something, a lot if you romance him.  If he dies someone will miss him and he shouldn't throw his life away because he messed up. 

To me it's not unrealistic to have hope for the better.  If you give up hope then what do you have left?
I'm not going to give up on the possibility of Thane living just because he's dying.  Setting you expectations too high is foolish, but simply expecting someone to die can be just as bad.  Life is full of disappointment, but that shouldn't stop anyone from hoping because sometimes you do get a break. 

I admit I always get a little angry when someone says "you shouldn't have gotten into the relationship in the first place" because you don't want that person to die.  It's a weak argument to me.

I have no problem with Thane want to make the galaxy a better place.  I understood his feelings in the letter.  I understand that either of them can die.  If Thane dies, Shepard is going to hurt.  I understand that reality, but that shouldn't stop Shepard from finding a way.  At the very least I want to extend Thane's life. 

The longer Thane lives the more time he has to make up for his mistakes, to mend his relationship with Kolyat, and to continue making happier memories with Shepard even if their overall situation is not that great.  Believe me, an ending where Thane gets to see that desert, expresses that he's truly happy, and that Shepard truly made a difference in his life, good or bad end, would make me cry more than anything.

Don't forget.  If you can help Thane then you can help the other Drell who suffer as well.

Anyway, onto happier things!

On the contray, we don't differ that much at all. Life is for living, make the most of it while you can so when you do die, you die happy. I never said Thane should dwell on his mortality, I said Shepard shouldn't dwell on it. There will always be hope for a cure because she naturally loves him, but if she lets it become too strong all the more harder on her when there is no cure found. In my opinion, she can't buckle and let the galaxy be destroyed because Thane died. I guess some people want their Shepards to be that way, fine. I just think what about all of Shepard's friends on the Normandy?  What about their families? What about Thane's own son? Is there nothing else to fight for all because one individual died? Again, I doubt Thane would want Shepard to doom the galaxy over just him.

There needs to be acceptance of reality, allow room for closure, but not a dwelling on death. Like I said before though, this is sci-fi, this is fiction, Bioware can make anything happen. I just want to look at it from a realistic stand point. I like a happy ending, but I don't like a Disney fairy tale one.

Shepard's focus at the time being though is saving the galaxy. She can't really put effort into finding a cure or prolonging Thane's life. There are many people working on that as Thane himself has said. Drell and hanar and for all we know some groups of salarians and other aliens. Then there is the little thing we read in the CDN a while back that was a potential life prolonger. It's not like it's up to Shepard alone to save Thane and all the drell. Shepard is a soldier, not a doctor.  Of course if she finds something along the way, that's different. But in between missions, actively sitting at her computer, researching, that will take time she just really can't afford to lose right now. It's time better spent with Thane if he gets to stay on the Normandy.

"I admit I always get a little angry when someone says "you shouldn't have gotten into the relationship in the first place" because you don't want that person to die.  It's a weak argument to me."

I mean that as, the person told you in the first place, they alerted you. If all you do is dwell on them dying the entire relationship, can't accept that they will die, can't value what little life they have left and expect them to live longer somehow. If you can't handle it when they do die, let everything be destroyed, you shouldn't have entered the relationship.

I like to think my Shepard treats him like he's not dying. Takes him on the missions with her, let's him take risks. She treats him how she would want to be treated. After all, the doctors orders are for him to stay active, right? She keeps in the back of her mind that eventually it will happen, she wishes for a cure but doesn't really hope for it, does not dwell on it. She had one of those rare moments where she shed a few tears when she read that letter. Then she dried them up and went to rape spend time with him. She accepts he will die. She is far from dwelling on him dying though and values her time with him.  

Few people who are dying ever want their loved ones to dwell on it like that. They don't want to be a burden. Especially a person like Thane. When they have the love and attention from someone, they just want to live life while they can. Like you said, they want to fix mistakes, mend relationships with old friends and family, make sure their life is complete before dying, not dwell on the death. 

I agree with all of what you said. I just think I shouldn't expect a cure or life prolonging to just happen because I want it to happen. Again, sci-fi, fiction, I know. Anything can happen, but realitistically it can't.  I can't help thinking realistically. Glass half empty.

Modifié par Lucky Thirteen, 26 septembre 2011 - 04:57 .

[Shepenwepet]

Lucky Thirteen wrote...

. In my opinion, she can't buckle and let the galaxy be destroyed because Thane died. I guess some people want their Shepards to be that way, fine. I just think what about all of Shepard's friends on the Normandy?  What about their families? What about Thane's own son? Is there nothing else to fight for all because one individual died? Again, I doubt Thane would want Shepard to doom the galaxy over just him.

I really doubt there are Shepards like this. We all joke about it, of course, I myself said I'd ragequit, but I wasn't serious. My Shepard would be seriously upset, but everyone's lives are in danger, everyone is losing loved ones, not just her. She shouldn't be allowed to buckle.
Now if you DO play your Shepard this way, power to you....Conrad'll take it from where you left off.

CRITICAL MISSION FAILURE. Can you live with that?

Shepard's focus at the time being though is saving the galaxy. She can't really put effort into finding a cure or prolonging Thane's life. There are many people working on that as Thane himself has said. Drell and hanar and for all we know some groups of salarians and other aliens. Then there is the little thing we read in the CDN a while back that was a potential life prolonger. It's not like it's up to Shepard alone to save Thane and all the drell. Shepard is a soldier, not a doctor.  Of course if she finds something along the way, that's different. But in between missions, actively sitting at her computer, researching, that will take time she just really can't afford to lose right now. It's time better spent with Thane if he gets to stay on the Normandy.

This. Really. There are reapers destroying whole planets. Could you imagine the outrage? Reapers are tearing apart the earth and Shepard is off looking for a cure that might not even exist to help a little-seen species. I don't think humans would be sympathetic there. I want a cure as much as the next person, but it makes little sense to go looking for it when there is a war going on. It's just horrible timing.

I agree with all of what you said. I just think I shouldn't expect a cure or life prolonging to just happen because I want it to happen. Again, sci-fi, fiction, I know. Anything can happen, but realitistically it can't.  I can't help thinking realistically. Glass half empty.

Glass half-empty here as well. I WANT a treatment, but I realize there's a good possibility that it's just not going to happen. Better to be prepared for the worst than to be crushed by it.

I'm such a downer.

[Lucky Thirteen]

Now,

let's dance crazy

[wildannie]

The more I think about it, the more I think that the cure/treatment for Thane will be a done deal by the start of ME3. I agree that a mission to find a cure would be out of place in a galactic war with the Reapers.
I expect that the 'cure' is going to be the eupulmos device from Cerberus Daily News and that only a Loyal Thane will have taken the treatment. I'd prefer it if Mordin found a cure though...

...I'm totally distracted while writing this by Thane 'dancing crazy'

[Cosmochyck]

@ Lucky Thirteen - 3 words - THAT. IS. AWESOME. I LOVE dancing Thane!!! Can we hope for dancing in ME3????

@wildannie I too was distracted from my original train of thought and instead decided to comment on dancing Thane. MMMmmmmm, Thane.....

[EternalSea]

^ YEEEES! I want proper dancing in ME3. Make it happen Bioware. I must own that dance floor with Thane.

[Enmystic]

Lucky Thirteen wrote...

On the contray, we don't differ that much at all. Life is for living, make the most of it while you can so when you do die, you die happy. I never said Thane should dwell on his mortality, I said Shepard shouldn't dwell on it. There will always be hope for a cure because she naturally loves him, but if she lets it become too strong all the more harder on her when there is no cure found. In my opinion, she can't buckle and let the galaxy be destroyed because Thane died. I guess some people want their Shepards to be that way, fine. I just think what about all of Shepard's friends on the Normandy?  What about their families? What about Thane's own son? Is there nothing else to fight for all because one individual died? Again, I doubt Thane would want Shepard to doom the galaxy over just him.

There needs to be acceptance of reality, allow room for closure, but not a dwelling on death. Like I said before though, this is sci-fi, this is fiction, Bioware can make anything happen. I just want to look at it from a realistic stand point. I like a happy ending, but I don't like a Disney fairy tale one.

Well no, Shepard can't solely dwell on Thane since everyone in the
galaxy is basically screwed right now.  I mentioned before that extremes are
never the way to go, unless you RP your Shepard like that.  My hope is that Bioware is going to do something with Thane's story that no one was expecting.  Including the possibility of a treatment.  ME3 is supposed to be EPIC.

Shepard's focus at the time being though is saving the galaxy. She can't really put effort into finding a cure or prolonging Thane's life. There are many people working on that as Thane himself has said. Drell and hanar and for all we know some groups of salarians and other aliens. Then there is the little thing we read in the CDN a while back that was a potential life prolonger. It's not like it's up to Shepard alone to save Thane and all the drell. Shepard is a soldier, not a doctor.  Of course if she finds something along the way, that's different. But in between missions, actively sitting at her computer, researching, that will take time she just really can't afford to lose right now. It's time better spent with Thane if he gets to stay on the Normandy.

"I admit I always get a little angry when someone says "you shouldn't have gotten into the relationship in the first place" because you don't want that person to die.  It's a weak argument to me."

I mean that as, the person told you in the first place, they alerted you. If all you do is dwell on them dying the entire relationship, can't accept that they will die, can't value what little life they have left and expect them to live longer somehow. If you can't handle it when they do die, let everything be destroyed, you shouldn't have entered the relationship.

Again, extremes is never a way to look at things.  I just get mad when some people use that argument to generalize all Thane fans who want to treat/cure him because they think none of us are capable of accepting his current fate.  That's why it's a weak argument to me,  it's projecting a flawed generalization onto a group of people.

You also touched on another one of my arguments I put up in another thread.  There are quite a few things that can be done with a possible "treat Thane" sub-plot.  What disappoints me is the possibility of a "plot thread hanging" scenario where none of these possibilities are adressed at all.  After watching Shepard being brought back to life I don't want to be forced to watch Thane not do anything, Shepard not mention anything, and be expected to accept it.  It would feel like a plot hole.

I like to think my Shepard treats him like he's not dying. Takes him on
the missions with her, let's him take risks. She treats him how she
would want to be treated. After all, the doctors orders are for him to
stay active, right? She keeps in the back of her mind that eventually it
will happen, she wishes for a cure but doesn't really hope for it, does
not dwell on it. She had one of those rare moments where she shed a few
tears when she read that letter. Then she dried them up and went to rape spend time with him. She accepts he will die. She is far from dwelling on him dying though and values her time with him.

 
Understandable, I just take a more optimistic route.  Something interesting may pop up in ME3.

I agree with all of what you said. I just think I shouldn't expect a cure or life prolonging to just happen because I want it to happen. Again, sci-fi, fiction, I know. Anything can happen, but realitistically it can't.  I can't help thinking realistically. Glass half empty.

Each to their own I guess.  Personally, I go to games for escapism so I never ask for realism in the first place.  As long as it makes sense within the ME universe is all I ask for.  I still want that chance to save him in ME3.

I can't wait to see what happens to people who cheated on their LI with Thane.  Thane's not the type to lose his cool, but as we have all seen, he still is a man with pride. 

I would like to see how helping Thane would tie into helping the Drell.  There are soo many possibilites.  Hopefully Bioware won't disappoint.

I'm sorry I can't stand watching Thane awkwardly dance like Shepard.  Part of me wonders if he is as bad at it as Shepard is though.

[Shepenwepet]

Enmystic wrote...

I'm sorry I can't stand watching Thane awkwardly dance like Shepard.  Part of me wonders if he is as bad at it as Shepard is though.

"He moved like a dancer, grace and power in constant motion." - Jeirt

[Cosmochyck]

Shepenwepet wrote...

Enmystic wrote...

I'm sorry I can't stand watching Thane awkwardly dance like Shepard.  Part of me wonders if he is as bad at it as Shepard is though.

"He moved like a dancer, grace and power in constant motion." - Jeirt

Plus he's carrying several ass kicking weapons which makes it even more beautiful 

[EternalSea]

Hey, they can always up the dancing. Don't tell me you don't want get groovy with Thane.

Anyway, I'm sure were going to find something here. Technological improvement, dooming secret, something mystical (?) to defeat an entire Reaper fleet despite the absurd difficulty that should arouse. Probably not a cure, but something that could prolong his life in some sorts is in the realm of possibility.

[Enmystic]

Cosmochyck wrote...

Shepenwepet wrote...

Enmystic wrote...

I'm sorry I can't stand watching Thane awkwardly dance like Shepard.  Part of me wonders if he is as bad at it as Shepard is though.

"He moved like a dancer, grace and power in constant motion." - Jeirt

Plus he's carrying several ass kicking weapons which makes it even more beautiful 

But that's combat.  I'm talking about no heavy weapons or killing involved.  Will his grace on the battlefield translate?  Shepard's sure doesn't, but then again, this is Shepard I'm talking about.

[JECWSU]

Enmystic wrote...

Cosmochyck wrote...

Shepenwepet wrote...

Enmystic wrote...

I'm sorry I can't stand watching Thane awkwardly dance like Shepard.  Part of me wonders if he is as bad at it as Shepard is though.

"He moved like a dancer, grace and power in constant motion." - Jeirt

Plus he's carrying several ass kicking weapons which makes it even more beautiful 

But that's combat.  I'm talking about no heavy weapons or killing involved.  Will his grace on the battlefield translate?  Shepard's sure doesn't, but then again, this is Shepard I'm talking about.

I don't beleieve for a minute that Thane is as bad of a dancer as Shepard. To be honest in my head none of my Shepards are bad dancers. I don't know anyone in real life who dances that way.

[Enmystic]

JECWSU wrote...

I don't beleieve for a minute that Thane is as bad of a dancer as Shepard. To be honest in my head none of my Shepards are bad dancers. I don't know anyone in real life who dances that way.

Feel blessed that you don't.  I don't know any either, but I know they exist.

[Kathleen321]

Thane dancing must be incredible sexy. The way he moves in battle is so smooth and measured. I bet they didn't include teammate dancing in ME2 because the game designers were would have to recreate an entire dance routine just for Thane. I picture him sashaying around Shepard and quickly weaving between the dancers with a flower in his mouth as he purrs "Siha."

[Enmystic]

Oh you.
If Thane does dance, no matter the skill level, it will indeed be sexy.

Art

by meepeh
I would like to see Thane laugh again in ME3. =3

by hvsuhdcs
What is this, I don't even...  ...I want this on my wall...now.

Modifié par Enmystic, 27 septembre 2011 - 12:10 .