@Valentia Neither you nor I said transplants are a cure. What they are, basically, is a treatment of symptoms. Like taking medication to treat the stuffy or running nose associated with the common cold. The medication isn't treating the virus, just the symptom. Until you treat the underlying cause, the "bandaid" treatment of symptoms is eventually going to become problematic. Example, antibiotic resistant. So, the transplant is a treatment option but really not viable in the long run. So, immunotherapy or gene therapy starts to make sense but the underlying cause has to be identified for a viable treatment option to be identified.
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#152
Posté 16 juin 2011 - 04:44
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Just curious, how do you guys see ME2/ME3 thread split functioning? Moving all the discussions here for the time being?
And, another screenie!
And, another screenie!
#153
Posté 16 juin 2011 - 04:50
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Aww Thane looks worried about his Shep. 
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Posté 16 juin 2011 - 05:19
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I love that scene in Overlord. So good!
I'd say move them here for now?
@Gnas that I totally agree with you. Hopefully we'll get more information in ME3. Also now I wish there was a medical science thread for discussions like this.
I'd say move them here for now?
@Gnas that I totally agree with you. Hopefully we'll get more information in ME3. Also now I wish there was a medical science thread for discussions like this.
#155
Posté 16 juin 2011 - 05:49
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I really hope Thane is alive in ME3, he was a nice guy(atleast for an assasin) 
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Posté 16 juin 2011 - 05:55
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@Valentia you know, that is a good idea. If you start one, I think there would be interest from people like me who work in the medical field and want to discuss it. Citations would most definitely be included. Other topics could suicide, depression, personality disorders.... and on and on it can go. 
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Posté 16 juin 2011 - 06:06
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@Gnas- sent you a pm, answer at will.
Back to the drell at hand, does anyone have any suggestions a place to get good, hi-res shots of Thane from the game? I'm looking to make a new layout and I seem to mostly run across thumbnails or fanart.
Back to the drell at hand, does anyone have any suggestions a place to get good, hi-res shots of Thane from the game? I'm looking to make a new layout and I seem to mostly run across thumbnails or fanart.
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Posté 16 juin 2011 - 06:30
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Oh my.
Anyway, not to offend anyone with said opinion, but Thane is far more than the fact he is dying. He's an intriguing and well-written character, who I would find just as interesting if he didn't have Kepral's. His quest for redemption may have been encouraged by his impending death, but I believe at heart he is a good person that regrets the mistakes he has made. Therein lies the reason why I really love this character. Not everything is simply black and white. A person is not always clearly defined by appearances and first impressions.
Getting to know Thane was a pleasure and I truly hope he is treated with care and done justice in ME3. I believe after all the pain, loss and hardship both him and Shepard have endured in their lives they deserve a happy ending.
/romantic sap mode
I'm expecting we'll have to go through some difficulty in order to save Thane. I'm prepared for everything to be emotionally charged with a box of tissues ready.
Anyway, not to offend anyone with said opinion, but Thane is far more than the fact he is dying. He's an intriguing and well-written character, who I would find just as interesting if he didn't have Kepral's. His quest for redemption may have been encouraged by his impending death, but I believe at heart he is a good person that regrets the mistakes he has made. Therein lies the reason why I really love this character. Not everything is simply black and white. A person is not always clearly defined by appearances and first impressions.
Getting to know Thane was a pleasure and I truly hope he is treated with care and done justice in ME3. I believe after all the pain, loss and hardship both him and Shepard have endured in their lives they deserve a happy ending.
/romantic sap mode
I'm expecting we'll have to go through some difficulty in order to save Thane. I'm prepared for everything to be emotionally charged with a box of tissues ready.
Modifié par Aislinn Trista, 16 juin 2011 - 06:34 .
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Posté 16 juin 2011 - 06:44
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Aislinn Trista wrote...
Oh my.
Anyway, not to offend anyone with said opinion, but Thane is far more than the fact he is dying. He's an intriguing and well-written character, who I would find just as interesting if he didn't have Kepral's. His quest for redemption may have been encouraged by his impending death, but I believe at heart he is a good person that regrets the mistakes he has made. Therein lies the reason why I really love this character. Not everything is simply black and white. A person is not always clearly defined by appearances and first impressions.
Getting to know Thane was a pleasure and I truly hope he is treated with care and done justice in ME3. I believe after all the pain, loss and hardship both him and Shepard have endured in their lives they deserve a happy ending.
/romantic sap mode
I'm expecting we'll have to go through some difficulty in order to save Thane. I'm prepared for everything to be emotionally charged with a box of tissues ready.
I agree, the fact he has Keprals has no bearing on why I like and find his character interesting. I find the story re: the compact, his marriage to Irikah and his new relationship with kolyat and of course Shepard to be the most interesting aspects of his story.
The Keprals? it's a fly in the ointment. I really hope I don't need those tissues
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Posté 16 juin 2011 - 07:15
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Really well said, Aislinn and I agree.
Thane is so much more than his illness and to me, that's kind of what I got from Patrick's post paralleling CF and Kepral's (ymmv). That his friend was told she wouldn't reach 30, yet here she is. A survivor, a fighter, who continues every day living with CF. I enjoyed getting to know Thane, learning about his past, hearing about his life, about the hanar, about the drell. And if there is one thing that always comes across loud and clear it's that he doesn't dwell on his illness. It's the last thing on his mind!
If it can be said that Thane is defined by his illness then Thane is defined by living with his illness, not suffering from it. In spite of his diagnosis, he continued his work, wanting to bring a little light to the darkness of the galaxy. Instead of wasting away in a bed somewhere he got up and continued to fight, every day, in the only way he knew how. (Yes, he was on auto-pilot, but that is a whole 'nother can of worms.)
I'd love to see him become an inspirational symbol of hope.
/gets off soapbox
*EDIT* Yeah, I'm editing my post. Big whoop, wanna fight about it? I edited the bit about Thane being defined, yadda yadda, because I don't believe that Thane is defined solely by his illness.
Thane is so much more than his illness and to me, that's kind of what I got from Patrick's post paralleling CF and Kepral's (ymmv). That his friend was told she wouldn't reach 30, yet here she is. A survivor, a fighter, who continues every day living with CF. I enjoyed getting to know Thane, learning about his past, hearing about his life, about the hanar, about the drell. And if there is one thing that always comes across loud and clear it's that he doesn't dwell on his illness. It's the last thing on his mind!
If it can be said that Thane is defined by his illness then Thane is defined by living with his illness, not suffering from it. In spite of his diagnosis, he continued his work, wanting to bring a little light to the darkness of the galaxy. Instead of wasting away in a bed somewhere he got up and continued to fight, every day, in the only way he knew how. (Yes, he was on auto-pilot, but that is a whole 'nother can of worms.)
I'd love to see him become an inspirational symbol of hope.
/gets off soapbox
*EDIT* Yeah, I'm editing my post. Big whoop, wanna fight about it? I edited the bit about Thane being defined, yadda yadda, because I don't believe that Thane is defined solely by his illness.
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Posté 16 juin 2011 - 07:28
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Well said, Kai and Aislinn. I honestly don't see why anyone wouldn't like Thane's character, even if by a small margin. Apparently because he suffers from the infamous Carth Syndrome automatically makes me dull and uninteresting, but it's funny because some of those people don't seem to bother trying looking past that fact.
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Posté 16 juin 2011 - 07:31
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I wonder why the writers felt the need to give Thane his illness.
You can clearly see that his personality was woven by events in his life like being recruited at the age of 6, his wife murder and consequent hunt for her murderers.
Actually I think that Thane hunt for revenge was what really made him start his redemption crusade. If you have him with you at the collectors base he says something along the lines of :
"we must strive not to become what we are fighting"
But he did become what he was fighting, he hunted and killed Irikah's murderers just like they did, and I think that really shocked him.
So, what is the point of Keprals storywise? Either it is going to have a huge role in ME3 plot, which I highly doubt because cure Kepral's an save all Drell == cure the Genophage an save all Krogan even if the details are different. Or has no role at all so it won't be adressed properly in the game...
You can clearly see that his personality was woven by events in his life like being recruited at the age of 6, his wife murder and consequent hunt for her murderers.
Actually I think that Thane hunt for revenge was what really made him start his redemption crusade. If you have him with you at the collectors base he says something along the lines of :
"we must strive not to become what we are fighting"
But he did become what he was fighting, he hunted and killed Irikah's murderers just like they did, and I think that really shocked him.
So, what is the point of Keprals storywise? Either it is going to have a huge role in ME3 plot, which I highly doubt because cure Kepral's an save all Drell == cure the Genophage an save all Krogan even if the details are different. Or has no role at all so it won't be adressed properly in the game...
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Posté 16 juin 2011 - 07:37
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Well... I am going to be bold and say this. *takes deep breath to calm down blush she feels starting on her ears*
I don't want Thane to be an symbol of inspiration or hope. I just want Thane. XD That's it. That's all. Just Thane, with Shepard, swaggering off into the sunset.
Okay, the fangirl in me is going to settle down now. Meep....
I don't want Thane to be an symbol of inspiration or hope. I just want Thane. XD That's it. That's all. Just Thane, with Shepard, swaggering off into the sunset.
Okay, the fangirl in me is going to settle down now. Meep....
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Posté 16 juin 2011 - 07:42
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Gnas wrote...
Well... I am going to be bold and say this. *takes deep breath to calm down blush she feels starting on her ears*
I don't want Thane to be an symbol of inspiration or hope. I just want Thane. XD That's it. That's all. Just Thane, with Shepard, swaggering off into the sunset.
Okay, the fangirl in me is going to settle down now. Meep....
#165
Posté 16 juin 2011 - 07:49
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On a lighter note...
Thane's sexy back
That is the first "tribute video" about Thane I ever saw.... so funny it needs to be shared again XDD
Thane's sexy back
That is the first "tribute video" about Thane I ever saw.... so funny it needs to be shared again XDD
#166
Posté 16 juin 2011 - 07:57
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I have a soapbox, gosh darnit!
Oh, ok. I'm with Gnas, I just want Thane.
On a soapbox!
Shirtless.
Oh, ok. I'm with Gnas, I just want Thane.
On a soapbox!
Shirtless.
#167
Posté 16 juin 2011 - 07:58
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Technically, Thane should be shirtless by ME3's timeframe, but will it actually happen? Don't think so.
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Posté 16 juin 2011 - 09:32
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Shirtless Thane! For his health!
Also, I think that his profession as an assassin has defined his life far more than his Keprel's syndrome. Being an assassin was drilled into him from the age of 8. It is all he has known. It caused him to meet Irikah, which brought him a family. Then his profession also caused the death of his family, and brought him to Shepard.
It has had so much more of an effect on his life than his Keprel's syndrome.
Also, I think that his profession as an assassin has defined his life far more than his Keprel's syndrome. Being an assassin was drilled into him from the age of 8. It is all he has known. It caused him to meet Irikah, which brought him a family. Then his profession also caused the death of his family, and brought him to Shepard.
It has had so much more of an effect on his life than his Keprel's syndrome.
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Posté 16 juin 2011 - 09:46
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*Facepalm* It was 6 wasn't it? Illustrates my point more anyway 
But it is alright, he didn't make his first kill until he was 12!
Yet another of the subtle uses of humour Thane has in his dialogue!
But it is alright, he didn't make his first kill until he was 12!
Yet another of the subtle uses of humour Thane has in his dialogue!
#171
Posté 16 juin 2011 - 09:56
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LOL Tash. Happens to the best of us...
#172
Posté 16 juin 2011 - 10:25
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I agree with you Tasha, I edited my post to make what I meant to say sound a bit clearer.
#173
Posté 16 juin 2011 - 10:45
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Sister Helen wrote...
... Don't drell in general have shorter lifespans? If humans live about 125 years and drell only 85.
Perhaps. The average lifespan of drell may be 85, but that is in galactic standard years. Galactic standard time is longer than human coordinated universal time so 85 GS years would be longer than 85 human years. There is also the fact that 85 GS years is the average lifespan. That would no doubt be affected by Kepral's, so there may very well be drell that live to 150 human years, it's just the ones who suffer from Kepral's (which is a significant proportion of the population) have shorter lifespans.
We were told that humans can live up to 150 years, but that is not an average lifespan. And then we don't even know whether 150 years is in GS or human years. My guess is that would be in human years, so that we could relate to it more, but we can't really say.
TL;DR humans and drell may have a similar lifespan for all we know.
#174
Posté 16 juin 2011 - 10:49
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Throwing out some Thane support. One of my lady Sheps romanced him. I liked his character way more than I thought I would and I will be sad if he's not in ME3 AND CURED. Poor guy.
I'm also not really sure how I can find man that resembles a frog sexually attractive, but there it is. Hooray for Thane.
I'm also not really sure how I can find man that resembles a frog sexually attractive, but there it is. Hooray for Thane.
#175
Posté 16 juin 2011 - 11:08
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I hate the color green. always have..and I find Thane sexy. that says a lot.
